Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

Auk Autist said:
I could recommend you a RomHack of Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness with gen 7 mons in it if you'd like. I'd advise waiting to pick up a pre-owned copy if you can fam.
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wait they could mod gamecube games to that level now?
 
Ido said:
What a dumpster fire. That being said, if I'd had a better week I would stay strong but my resolve is cracking. I've been bored out of my skull for the past week, and chances are I'm going to buy it like the giant hypocrite I am... then be bored with it because its pokemon.

Oh well, I guess. The moment of truth is upon us.
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If you have a thing for edgy 4chan humor, or even if you don't, I highly recommend Pokemon Clover. It's based on the FireRed/LeafGreen engine but has all the modern amenities and conveniences (physical/special split, Fairy types, newer moves, ect.) with a full roster of brand new Pokes that run the gambit from designs that would fit into an actual game, memes, literal shit, and stereotypes of every kind (from troons to klansmen to terrorists and beyond). And it's topped off with legit challenge but not Kaizo level crap like a lot of ROM hacks.
 
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Screech Man Bad said:
Could always try some rom hacks instead. Lot's of goodies out there.
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UntimelyDhelmise said:
If you have a thing for edgy 4chan humor, or even if you don't, I highly recommend Pokemon Clover. It's based on the FireRed/LeafGreen engine but has all the modern amenities and conveniences (physical/special split, Fairy types, newer moves, ect.) with a full roster of brand new Pokes that run the gambit from designs that would fit into an actual game, memes, literal shit, and stereotypes of every kind (from troons to klansmen to terrorists and beyond). And it's topped off with legit challenge but not Kaizo level crap like a lot of ROM hacks.
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Auk Autist said:
I could recommend you a RomHack of Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness with gen 7 mons in it if you'd like. I'd advise waiting to pick up a pre-owned copy if you can fam.
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I know... I just dont turn my laptop on until later in the day and primarily use handheld consoles. If I'd gotten Yuzu to work then I wouldn't need to and I'd play it for free but it refuses to even install. I'm trying to keep my mind off the new game with PMD sky but I played it a few months ago. i have other games but hard meh. I'm also trying to focus on planet zoo but realize I'm shit at design, at this point im just going through the motions.
 
UntimelyDhelmise said:
It's legitimately disturbing how these idiots have effectively been programmed into robots who consume a product no matter its price and quality and will blindly, violently lash out at any who dares so much as disagree with them, let alone point out (very obvious) flaws. This post really says it all.
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That said I don't believe it will last forever if GF keeps it up with this degrading quality. Fans were already getting increasingly disgruntled ever since the ORAS Battle Frontier snub, and this was the final straw. That number will grow when the game is finally out for all and the "You haven't played it!" argument finally dies and there's nothing for them to shield (heh) themselves against the facts anymore. And that number will grow yet further once it becomes clear just what exactly Pokemon Home Prison is for.

In short, as many have said already, The Last Jedi syndrome cometh.
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This is one of the things that makes Pokemon's fanbase distinctly worse than many other fanbases IMO. Whenever a big gaming corporation shits on their fans there is usually some sort of backlash. Aside from a small minority of sheep yelling at how toxic gamers are and kids yelling at other fans for not buying the newest game, trashfires like Fallout 76 get mocked while other games just flop as fans complain.

But Pokemon? Pokemon's fanbase is full of people who think that Nintendo and Game Freak can do no wrong. The problem for them is the quality of the Pokemon franchise has been in decline. Ever since X and Y, Pokemon has gotten worse and worse. While the "dexit" issue was the issue that really caused many Pokemon fans to turn on the series, the Pokemon fanbase already had a term for Pokemon fans who had gotten burnt out on the series: "genwunner". The term was a strawman for that guy who at some point for whatever reason got burnt out on buying the newest Pokemon games and simply lost interest. Mind you, not every Pokemon fan is like this as you can see from the backlash but the shills seem to be more common and more vocal.
 
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CIA Nigger said:
This is one of the things that makes Pokemon's fanbase distinctly worse than many other fanbases IMO. Whenever a big gaming corporation shits on their fans there is usually some sort of backlash. Aside from a small minority of sheep yelling at how toxic gamers are and kids yelling at other fans for not buying the newest game, trashfires like Fallout 76 get mocked while other games just flop as fans complain.

But Pokemon? Pokemon's fanbase is full of people who think that Nintendo and Game Freak can do no wrong. The problem for them is the quality of the Pokemon franchise has been in decline. Ever since X and Y, Pokemon has gotten worse and worse. While the "dexit" issue was the issue that really caused many Pokemon fans to turn on the series, the Pokemon fanbase already had a term for Pokemon fans who had gotten burnt out on the series: "genwunner". The term was a strawman for that guy who at some point for whatever reason got burnt out on buying the newest Pokemon games and simply lost interest. Mind you, not every Pokemon fan is like this as you can see from the backlash but the shills seem to be more common and more vocal.
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This whole train wreck with the Pokémon games is really reminding me of what's going on with The Sims series right now. Both series had games where numerous features that were in previous games were removed or neutered (With Sword/Shield and The Sims 4 being the worst offenders respectively). Both have communities that have strong defenders of it to the point that you swear that Junichi Masuda or Grant Rodiek are holding those "fans" at gunpoint, and ordered to suck up to the series or get a bullet to the head. Not to mention that some of those defenders go as far as to trash the previous games. (i.e. Gen 5 being controversial with being unable to get the old mons until post game in Black/White, and people trash TS3 because of it's performance issues due to how EA poorly optimized the game) And both of those games don't really have that many competitors to it. (Granted, the Pokémon series has things like Digimon and Yo-Kai Watch, but those fanbases are very small in comparison, and IIRC, there aren't any other life simulation games that come close to having the amount of features as The Sims series) Also, both series are getting more and more aggressive in terms of monetization.

Note that the Fallout franchise has a much smaller fan base than the Pokémon and Sims fan bases, which probably played a part as to why Fallout 76 got so much justified ridicule.
 
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Screech Man Bad said:
Could always try some rom hacks instead. Lot's of goodies out there.
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Oh yeah, that reminds me that I should get back into Dark Violet. Like the difficulty level's really spiked, and I haven't gotten to Misty on it yet, but it's been a pretty interesting run thus far.
 
Ido said:
What a dumpster fire. That being said, if I'd had a better week I would stay strong but my resolve is cracking. I've been bored out of my skull for the past week, and chances are I'm going to buy it like the giant hypocrite I am... then be bored with it because its pokemon.

Oh well, I guess. The moment of truth is upon us.
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I will never understand that obsession to buy a terrible game entry because of mere boredom (and/or it's the latest thing) when there is plenty of good vidya around.
 
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You have Tales of Vesperia, Atelier Ryza, Tales of berseria, Dragon Quest 11, Monster Hunter World Iceborne, The Mana Collection, Xenoblade2+Torna, Nier Automata, Trails of Cold Steel 1-3, Disgaea 4 Complete, Disgaea 1 and Disgaea 5, Final Fantasy 12 Zodiac Age, Persona 5, Divinity Original Sin 2, and like a metric fuckton of other RPGs that are out there and are much better than Pokemon on current gen systems.

Like it doesn't take much effort to find a better game.
 
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BananaSplit said:
I will never understand that obsession to buy a terrible game entry because of mere boredom (and/or it's the latest thing) when there is plenty of good vidya around.
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It could be argued it's a similar reasoning to why people go out and see bad movies that they know will be bad, but it doesn't hold nearly as much water. With a bad movie, you just buy a ticket for around $10 in most cases, sit down and watch something for a couple hours give or take. For a game though, you could pay from $10 (shovelware) to $60+ (AAA titles), and spend anywhere from an hour to an entire weekend's worth of time and have to actively play it (which could be an absolute slog for a number of reasons like bad controls and such) as opposed to just watching something.
 
Gamepad said:
It doesn't change your DNS settings. The guy who started that rumor is a wife beater who created the Incognito homebrew and funnels people into using it.
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wait, the guy who made incognito is a wife beater?
Gottahavemysips said:
They know about gen 1 nostalgia, but they have the most remarkable blind spot when it comes to any gen past that. There's loads of people who didn't start with gen one, but for some reason that is all they think any fan past 12 cares about. I'm referring in particular to stuff like how they handled the battle frontier in the R/S remakes. It makes it even worse considering how well HG/SS handled it, they carried over improvements from Crystal, there was no reason to assume ORAS wouldn't carry the biggest feature from Emerald. If I held shares in the franchise, I'd be pissed they didn't utilize the nostalgia factor to its fullest.
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That's because they aren't after 'fans', they are after the regular person who goes 'fuck yeah pokemon, poh keh mon pikachu I choose you hahaha'. It's like how mickey mouse didn't have a cartoon for fifty years or whatever. If you buy a game you are dead to the pokemon company. That's why magikarp is so easy to get, it's their way of saying you sleep with the fishes.
 
UntimelyDhelmise said:
It could be argued it's a similar reasoning to why people go out and see bad movies that they know will be bad, but it doesn't hold nearly as much water. With a bad movie, you just buy a ticket for around $10 in most cases, sit down and watch something for a couple hours give or take. For a game though, you could pay from $10 (shovelware) to $60+ (AAA titles), and spend anywhere from an hour to an entire weekend's worth of time and have to actively play it (which could be an absolute slog for a number of reasons like bad controls and such) as opposed to just watching something.
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The point is that spending over 40 bucks for a game that you perfectly know well it's going to be garbage is some level of masochism imo, and that's also the kind of situation where you see people in buyer's remorse who try to downplay the game's many faults (something that wont happen with a bad movie). I've been used to Steam sales where you get a lot of good shit for 10 bucks and less, which is great as long as you dont buy by impulse and leave them rot in your library tab forever. It's less likely on consoles but once again there are still video games much better than Pokemon Switch on the Nintendo system that could cure your boredom for the weekend
 
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