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TexOffender said:
Sabat doesn't even have lungs. A lot of his screams have no throat or he breaks up long screams into a bunch of short screams.
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He has to save his lung capacity for being the Little Fugly Couch Troll (screeching at his minions and coercing aspiring female VAs/future Weebstein assault victims).
 
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Random Internet Person said:
You also forgot May Chang from FMA: Brotherhood and Mira from Fairy Tail.
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I considered Mira, but she and May are probably more like Jamie's "Mt. Lady" role, which is to say recurring characters in a popular show that have a following, but aren't really that big a deal specific to the show itself. Dragonball is one of the few shows with the following and staying power to elevate characters like that. If I was going to pick out characters like that I'd have added Tashigi from One Piece.

For comparison, I'd say those are like Ensign Ro in ST:tNG. Fans know who she is and she was a recurring character in the show, but not someone that the casuals give a crap about and not someone you're going to put as a "headliner".
 
It is silly to compare the two over the amount of roles they have. Quality over quantity. Vic does his best and is passionate about what he does. You can tell... because people don't identify his voice as Vic's, but he's Edward Elric. Dare I say, I feel he sometimes surpasses the original Japanese VA in the role. Maybe it's because I've seen the dub first... So I'm probably biased, but when I saw FMA in Japanese and thought, "That's not Edward." I can't really think the same of Monica. There isn't a character that I associate her voice with in the same way. If I hear her voice come out of a character it is more like, "Oh, it's Monica Rial." Every role she does sounds the same to me. Not to mention, I don't think her voice fits the character she's given most of the time. Point is, you can tell who cares more between the two.

Vic gives it his all and you can tell. Monica just pumps out a similiar performance time and time again and collects the paycheck. Her lazy performances might not be entirely her fault. I have learned over the years, that directors share a fair amount of blame when it comes to how a performance ends up sounding. Again, Vic's passion for his job shines through here. He'll keep redoing the lines of his own volition instead of simply being told the take is good. He really strives for the best performance each time... even if it annoys whoever is directing him. That's how he ends up producing significantly better performances than her. He takes more control because he cares.... even though all his coworkers don't like that about him. But that shows that he could direct and he was offered that directing job. The man has true talent.

Also it is unfair to compare the two by the amount of roles given to them. Over time Vic has been given less and less roles on purpose. Sabat and crew have been trying to phase him out of voice acting for a while. So just because Monica is given roles because she's more well liked by Sabat doesn't mean a damn thing. She doesn't work as hard because she doesn't have to. So.. yeah... Monica might have more roles... But that doesn't mean she's more talented in that field.
 
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LuNaS said:
Monica isn't jealous because of the difference in roles, she is jealous because of the difference in fanbase.

Vic makes a tweet about a sandwich, 5k likes.
Monica makes a tweet about her next convention appearance 400 or 500 likes.

She has roles, she just doesn't have fans, except for a small group of people she hates, compared to Vic, mister I am so we'll liked I had a quarter million in donations without even having to ask for any donation.

That is the envy they feel for Vic and one of the reasons why they hate the GoFundMe so much.
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In my opinion, I think there’s also an ulterior motive of going after the GFM besides the obvious attempt to use it against Vic in court. A thought popped in my head just now.

What if Monica and others are trying to inspect the GFM to not only figure out if Vic’s secret allies donated to it, but find who they are?

Think about it. As Nick said multiple times, there are voice actors and Funimation employees who secretly support Vic and hate the defendants. Some of them could’ve donated to the GFM anonymously without Funi’s knowledge.

Knowing what pieces of shit the defendants are and how low they’ll stoop to get what they want, I have a feeling that’s their other main goal: to know which of their colleagues and employees donated it so that they can demote them or drive them out as well. That’s if they actually donated of course.

It’s not just envy; it’s fear.
 
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HighwayStar said:
In my opinion, I think there’s also an ulterior motive of going after the GFM besides the obvious attempt to use it against Vic in court. A thought popped in my head just now.

What if Monica and others are trying to inspect the GFM to not only figure out if Vic’s secret allies donated to it, but find who they are?

Think about it. As Nick said multiple times, there are voice actors and Funimation employees who secretly support Vic and hate the defendants. Some of them could’ve donated to the GFM anonymously without Funi’s knowledge.

Knowing what pieces of shit the defendants are and how low they’ll stoop to get what they want, I have a feeling that’s their other main goal: to know which of their colleagues and employees donated it so that they can demote them or drive them out as well. That’s if they actually donated of course.

It’s not just envy; it’s fear.
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Maybe. Are you saying that those might be the people who donate a thousand every once in a while? I know that they were trying to depose Nick to probably out his sources.
 
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Random Internet Person said:
Maybe. Are you saying that those might be the people who donate a thousand every once in a while? I know that they were trying to depose Nick to probably out his sources.
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It’s possible. I tried going through the list of donators that are both anonymous and donated large sums, but it seems the list stops at 3 months prior the earliest.
 
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Found this tweet directed at Hero Hei.

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I knew Vic was in a dire situation back in Jan/Feb, but I didn't think it was that dire. Mama Mignogna makes it sound like Vic was actually close to ending it all.

Scary to think what would've happened if he had decided to an hero himself.. Most people (including here on the farms) probably would have never looked into the claims further and would've accepted him killing himself as an admission of guilt. Most of the regular internet folk seem to view Alec Holowka's suicide (video game guy who got accused by Zoe Quinn and then offed himself as a result) as an admision of guilt. Some people did end up looking into Quinn's claims and found out they don't add up, but:

1. too late.
2. nobody cares.

I suppose Vic really means it when he says that his fans saved him.
 
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If we're to look for a female counterpart to Vic in terms of quality voice-acting, the only other one I can think of is Luci Christian. That woman has a range despite only having like... three voices (kind of like Vic). However, she puts a lot of passion into her work. I think she's at her best when she plays tough characters like Nami (One Piece), Deunan (Appleseed), and Elle Ragu (Shadow Skill), which yeah, sometimes involves screaming into the microphone, but she has a lot of power in her voice. (I just learned she's Hestia in DanMachi, I wonder how she pulled her off.)

She doesn't have as many roles as Monica (because for some ungodly reason, that woman has like 500+ roles to her name despite sticking out like a sore thumb), and she has more roles than Vic that I can see, but I'm willing to bet she has her own enemies inside Funimation and Sentai Filmworks (whom she's been with since they were ADV). Which is funny since I don't think most people know who she is, but she's similar to Vic in that regard despite not sharing the same popularity and fanbase. Also she's happily married last I checked, and she has at least one kid, according to CLANNAD commentary.
 
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Kari Kamiya said:
She doesn't have as many roles as Monica (because for some ungodly reason, that woman has like 500+ roles to her name despite sticking out like a sore thumb), and she has more roles than Vic that I can see, but I'm willing to bet she has her own enemies inside Funimation and Sentai Filmworks (whom she's been with since they were ADV). Which is funny since I don't think most people know who she is, but she's similar to Vic in that regard despite not sharing the same popularity and fanbase. Also she's happily married last I checked, and she has at least one kid, according to CLANNAD commentary.
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She's literally a soccer mom (of two). Anything's possible, but I don't see her having any significant enemies, not like Vic does.
 
Nontransferable said:
Only GoFundMe would know who the anonymous donors are and good luck convincing them that they need to turn that information over.
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Nick did say that he can get a list of who donated, even if they were anonymous. That was how he was going to figure out who to award the signed lithographs. Nick would have seen people's real names and would know if anyone from Funi donated.

Edit: I think he said he had to request the list. So, unless he makes regular requests, he may not know.
 
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Dumb Bitch Smoothie said:
If the internet as a whole is a Chuck E Cheese, Twitter is the ball pit that kids constantly shit in.
KF is that odd line of arcade machines that either make you hit the jackpot or take all your coins and make you ragequit
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Ironic considering Funi and Sabat were involved in a Chuck E Cheese thing.
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So I hope you guys enjoyed the movie © CEC Entertainment
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xyz741 said:
Tomoko (Watamote)
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I may be remembering this wrong but I seem to generally remember there was some disappointment in Rial being cast in the role over a fandubber that was generally much more liked among the community. One of the main points was the fandubber was able to sound much closer to the Japanese seiyuu while still actually acting quite decently. Rial's Tomoko felt incredibly phoned in when I tried watching the official dub back when it was coming out.
 
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