Horrorcow Kristina Paige Klein / Krissy Klein / Klein Journey of Hope - Fundie Christian mom, turns her daughters into frankendolls with repeated brain surgeries, either MbP or worst case of taking dr's advice ever

Hmmm how should they celebrate? More surgeries, of course!
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She never outright said that Aaron and Haleigh had a hiatal hernia to explain why they both had Nissen Fundoplication. Instead she chose to word salad the fuck out of it (and would her claims even be possible, seems like exaggeration to me, can anyone medfag this?)
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Medfag here, he doesn't look malnourished. If he really "puked all the times he ate" he couldn't gain weight. Rheumatology it's not my area of expertise but I think there's too many fishy things in this case.

Not my field of expertise, so forgive me. But surely there are physical repercussions to getting a permanent feeding tube installed? Like, if you are on one for a long time, wouldn't it impair your ability to eat normally years down the line?
I think at least a nose/throat sore, and malnutrition, I don't know about more specific GI dynamics.
 
She's still not done with butchering her children, and never forgets that fucking paypal link

- she's gotten approval for exploratory surgery? or an endoscopy and colonoscopy for her oldest and claims he only weighs 76lbs.
- the older daughter is suffering from mental health/emotional issues coping with her mother's MBP
- she's hoping the younger daughter needs more brain surgery
- she's just waiting for her youngest to be mature enough to handle INVASIVE testing - if it's necessary, why not do it now? waiting makes it look that much more unnecessary. You do not put a child's health on "the back burner" so this seems more like a lie, like doctors are unwilling to do such invasive testing on a young child for no good reason.
- her Breast Cancer, you know, the one she had two surgeries to remove tumors, well she still has tumors somehow. I'm baffled. Below is a post from the end of September where Krissy says they're celebrating "clear margins" - I don't know anything about breast cancer, but wouldn't a celebration of clear margins mean she no longer had tumors in her breasts? From what I do understand, the protocol is to follow up the clear margins with some sort of cancer medication (chemo?) to make sure it's completely gone. I think she's telling partial truths about her breast cancer, but grossly exaggerating some things.
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By now, they've gotten the repairs on their car and have already stated they had another car, but that gofundme is STILL UP.

A bunch of fairly normal looking kids, and they're putting the littlest on fucking Elavil? Amitriptyline is a first-gen tricyclic anti-depressant drug that not only gets adults ripped out of their fucking skulls long before it has any 'anti depressant' effect, but causes suicidal thoughts and actions in children because it's such a strong modifier of an immature brain chemistry! What the FUCK is her psychotic doctor even THINKING in giving that shit to Avehana??

Just found out now that this drug was discovered 80 years ago and they STILL don't fully understand it's mechanism of action. Fuck me. Munchie-enabling doctors are as bad as the MBP moms themselves.
 
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A bunch of fairly normal looking kids, and they're putting the littlest on fucking Elavil? Amitriptyline is a first-gen tricyclic anti-depressant drug that not only gets adults ripped out of their fucking skulls long before it has any 'anti depressant' effect, but causes suicidal thoughts and actions in children because it's such a strong modifier of an immature brain chemistry! What the FUCK is her psychotic doctor even THINKING in giving that shit to Avehana??

Just found out now that this drug was discovered 80 years ago and they STILL don't fully understand it's mechanism of action. Fuck me. Munchie-enabling doctors are as bad as the MBP moms themselves.
So is treating kid’s “mental health issues” with things that are the medication equivalent of hammering a nail with a sledgehammer the new munchie thing, or what?
 
Medfag here, he doesn't look malnourished. If he really "puked all the times he ate" he couldn't gain weight. Rheumatology it's not my area of expertise but I think there's too many fishy things in this case.


I think at least a nose/throat sore, and malnutrition, I don't know about more specific GI dynamics.
Krissy has been talking about getting Avee a G tube since the NJ was placed.
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So is treating kid’s “mental health issues” with things that are the medication equivalent of hammering a nail with a sledgehammer the new munchie thing, or what?

They're giving Avee that med to treat headaches. Idk what is being done to address Haleigh's mental health. Krissy doesn't talk about taking her to a counselor or a psychiatrist, which is odd considering she jumps at every other opportunity to take her kids to a doctor and treat every last little thing that might be wrong with them.

Remember, Avee has Celiac and if so, her intestines could have been damaged by eating gluten, leaving her less able to absorb nutrients.
 
i hate kids in general and i'm powerleveling by saying that i have more than 6 siblings, so life as a radical internet teenager wasn't that fun. this on the other hand is fucking sickening.
where the fuck is cps? where the fuck is anyone?

I can assure you as someone who has dealt with CPS that they do jack shit for 99% of cases. They serve as a convenient white knight for the generic "female physically/sexually abused by father" sob-stories, and for everyone else they are useless.
Looking at this case in particular;
female on daughter abuse
not directly physical
case too complicated and nuanced for typical agent to understand
...of course they would turn a blind eye.
 
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Does anyone else think this is a little absurd? Cancer isn't the only reason people don't have a new house, new car and new phone... and I have yet to hear someone complain about how they can't lose weight with cancer.


The Kleins, in the course of 8-9 years, have received (estimating) over $40,000 in donations. It started with a fundraiser for Krissy's IH that got several hundred, nbd. But then for Avee there were multiple fundraisers hosted by the community, friends and themselves. Avee had a gofundme. There was a gofundme for Haleigh and Avee. There were multiple fundraisers for both girls.
One community fundraiser in 2017 netted $26,000.
We know they got the money to take H to NYC and the genetic testing from the Robinett's - $8000 and whatever the cost of airfare, hotels, etc for NYC, that had to be several grand. They got money for help moving. Money and gifts for their new home and Avee's dream bedroom. Help with medical bills.
Krissy posts amazon wishlists for the kids and they get extra christmas presents.
And the constant posting of her paypal, which offers no accounting of how much they are receiving in donations.
There's the disney GFM and Krissy's latest we need a car $10,000 GFM.

The Kleins have more than most, and here's Krissy still complaining it's not enough.


Also, never heard if she forced her pre-teen son to do a colonoscopy and endoscopy, that was supposed to be nov 25.
 
I don't think the post is meant to say 'I don't have X because I have cancer and can't get it' I think it is mean to say, people wish for things that are 'superficial' while poor krissy can't have these normal superficial wishes because she's a muh cancer warrior mom that just *wishes* to live. But of course even in that sense this post is useless, not only she wishes and gets most of her deemed superficial wishes are like a house, car, of course she must have a nice phone too but I doubt she ever had cancer, even if she did it wasn't ever life threatening or I doubt she knows anyone that has gone through it, if she did she might have been able to pull a more believable lie in the first place.

We don't know anything about the husband. He doesn't have a facebook and doesn't make any posts? Not sure where he stands in this story yet. Does he trust her word and thinks the girls have real life threatening problems that required those brain surgery, genetic testing, etc OR is he a bystander to her munching, knowing something is probably wrong but not invested enough to investigate? I can see a man that works all day and rather to be willingly ignorant of whatever is going on just because it is too much trouble to confront his crazy wife and create more stress and instability in their life, probably with a divorce or things getting tense in the home if she thinks she has an 'enemy' inside her own house if he suspects or brings up anything— especially if they're also getting $$ aid.

Whatever it is I think there's little chance he is fully innocent if he is a present father, or at least live together which seem to be the case.
 
Uhg, just found this thread. I wish there was something that could be done to help these poor children- she likely won’t stop until they are dead or better off as such. The fact that medical professionals can actually think all these horrible and invasive procedures are warranted because the kids or their mom complain of pain or whatever is disgusting. But that one mom who got killed by her MBP daughters boyfriend got away with it for over a decade.
 
I don't think the post is meant to say 'I don't have X because I have cancer and can't get it' I think it is mean to say, people wish for things that are 'superficial' while poor krissy can't have these normal superficial wishes because she's a muh cancer warrior mom that just *wishes* to live. But of course even in that sense this post is useless, not only she wishes and gets most of her deemed superficial wishes are like a house, car, of course she must have a nice phone too but I doubt she ever had cancer, even if she did it wasn't ever life threatening or I doubt she knows anyone that has gone through it, if she did she might have been able to pull a more believable lie in the first place.

We don't know anything about the husband. He doesn't have a facebook and doesn't make any posts? Not sure where he stands in this story yet. Does he trust her word and thinks the girls have real life threatening problems that required those brain surgery, genetic testing, etc OR is he a bystander to her munching, knowing something is probably wrong but not invested enough to investigate? I can see a man that works all day and rather to be willingly ignorant of whatever is going on just because it is too much trouble to confront his crazy wife and create more stress and instability in their life, probably with a divorce or things getting tense in the home if she thinks she has an 'enemy' inside her own house if he suspects or brings up anything— especially if they're also getting $$ aid.

Whatever it is I think there's little chance he is fully innocent if he is a present father, or at least live together which seem to be the case.
The dad posts the occasional thank you on the group, but his facebook is private and shows only a few profile pics.
He is a radiology tech, and has the student loans on their bankruptcy to show.

When Krissy had a medical emergency, Zach posted about it vaguely but said he didn't know much and would have to let Krissy explain. Maybe he wasn't in town when it happened.
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Krissy did follow up to this, it's in the OP.

There was her having a seizure from taking a single xanax - ER - MRI with contrast that she had a severe allergic reaction to... VERY ODD to me..
- no one was there but Krissy and the kids
- xanax can cause seizures during withdrawals - is it possible to have a seizure from one pill?
- then she happens to have another allergic reaction while in the ER to the MRI contrast? Oddly coincidental, and all while daddy was away.
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Part of the issue here is that Zach was either still in the navy or was working long periods away from home to be a tech, and Krissy was often left with all those kids by herself.
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Celebrating! Dr shopping DOES work!
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Krissy admits to doctor shopping for Avee, only when they got to the 3rd dr did they get a surgery scheduled.
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3rd opinion (comment from post above)
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I'm seeing inconsistencies in the story of Avee's first surgery.
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on the positive side, the 3rd opinion said the chiari was SO BAD!
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"will give our daughter life" --- the same daughter who's now on comfort care with permanent brain stem damage.
Yet Krissy says in other comments that she didn't know what she was doing, and she just took the word of the surgeon and trusted him.
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Aug 2015 - Krissy says she's doing tons of research, but then said in a group she wished she'd researched this before allowing 'the first surgeon' to operate on Avee. But it was only from the 3rd opinion that they were referred to this NS.

And on a last note - Krissy made this comment years ago that two of her children are "extremely" allergic to dogs. They have a dog! A yorkie. Was this a lie or did the allergies just disappear?
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Some dogs are hypoallergenic as they have hair vs fur. I don't know if yorkies fall into that category though.

Edited for spelling and to say that google says yorkies are, indeed, hypoallergenic.
 
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So.e dogs are hypoallergenic as they have hair vs fur. I don't know if yorkies fall into that category though.
They do, yorkies have hair so they don't shed or produce dander as much as breeds that have fur. But dogs aren't 100% hypoallergenic so I'm curious to know what her definition of "extremely allergic" is.
 
A bunch of fairly normal looking kids, and they're putting the littlest on fucking Elavil? Amitriptyline is a first-gen tricyclic anti-depressant drug that not only gets adults ripped out of their fucking skulls long before it has any 'anti depressant' effect, but causes suicidal thoughts and actions in children because it's such a strong modifier of an immature brain chemistry! What the FUCK is her psychotic doctor even THINKING in giving that shit to Avehana??

Just found out now that this drug was discovered 80 years ago and they STILL don't fully understand it's mechanism of action. Fuck me. Munchie-enabling doctors are as bad as the MBP moms themselves.
In general, antidepressants may cause an increased risk of suicide in those under 25. They have no buisness giving it to anyone under 16, and from 16-25, lowest possible dose for shortest duration and only if absolutely needed.
 
Took a break from the Farms and came back to this.

I used to think Desmond is amazing was the peak for children horrorcow threads, but this is just....what the fuck, I don't even have words for this shit. What the fuck.

Well I guess I'm still not completely desensitized to Clown World yet if I can still wince at the operation pics.
 
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