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Thank Fuck For Evil Otto said:
The Deep State is Trumpian invention! So... Putin and North Korea are the real enemies we need to focus on. What kind of kosher khat is dude smoking.
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Goldman School of Public Policy? Oy vey.

UC Berkeley? Hide your bitcoin kids, he's got a bikelock!
 
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Adamska said:
It actually was because of his being a Narcissist, he decided that wasting his first two years trying and utterly failing at pushing universal healthcare (which he only got passed as its whack-ass form by crawling into bed with the pharmaceutical industry) for most of the time where he could actually do shit with majorities.

Obeme had one of the strongest mandates with a working congress ever and he blew most of his load just to get some claptrap shit with his name on it.

I literally don't understand why they keep trying to kill their own voters' enthusiasm.
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They blew their wad on heath care reform BECAUSE of voter enthusiasm.

Edwards basically blew a huge hole into the inevitability of Hillary in 2008 by pushing health care reform as his central. Which in term gave Obama the spine to run against Hillary because, Edwards strong showing before he self-destructed, showed that the public WOULD go for an alternative to Hillary as the Democrat nominee if given an option besides her.

When Edwards crashed and burned, Obama co-opted the health care reform platform for his own to use against Hillary (who famously got raped by the health care industry and her desire to be "co-President" with Bill stifled HARD when her push for Health Care Reform was killed before it even began).

Obama lucked out in that the zeitgeist was moving hard towards SOME sort of reform being made due to the fact that the US health care system was royally and utterly fucked and how it was the perfect sort of bread and circus thing to allow Obama to bypass having to end the wars in the Middle East. And given the outcry from the base for reform, plus the Clintons' own failure at achieving health care reform, it had to be done and SOMETHING, even a fucking half-measure that made no one happy, had to be passed.

Jigglyjogglers said:
So is this a sign that they're actually jumping ship on their Chosen One yet again? "Maybe the super rich corporate white guy will save us from the super rich corporate white guy we've been calling Hitler for three years"?

Considering the Trump Curse hasn't spared any of the other Chosen Ones, I'd fully expect it to come out that Bloomberg regularly dines on human babies and endangered dolphins with Harvey Weinstein, leading to at least a week of "Look, they were obviously not well-loved babies if their mothers sold them to be eaten, is it really any different than an abortion (which is unquestionably a good thing)?" from the media.
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Bloomberg is most likely the left's "break glass in case of emergency" candidate if Biden becomes too much of a liability and TPTB don't want to deal with Hillary jumping in either. He's non-threatening enough for the donor class and bland enough of a figure that normies might, just MIGHT take him over Trump as the safe and boring alternative.
 
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Dracula's Spirit Animal said:
And that is fundamental to the entire modern left's zeitgeist.

F. Scott Fitzgerald said something about intelligence is being able to hold two contradictory ideas simultaneously. I'm more of an Orwell believer:

"“Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.”"

Or more to the point, Voltaire:

"“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”"

I think it's baked into the cake from early on, possibly in Marx, and certainly in Bolshevism, that flipping of of weak and strong as convenient. It creates a muddled, contradictory internal narrative that is hard to address and ferret out in one's thinking once it's been instilled. You can't actually argue with it on its own terms, they keep on shifting the narrative to never be wrong. And the way to do that is is a sort of constant victim/savior oscillation. And the more emotionally invested and brainwashed into it, the more severe the victim reality "they are LITERALLY trying to kill us!" and the savior one as well, "we must fight them BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY"

And then a different incoherent dichotomy narrative is set up for "enemy". A bubbling subhuman fool/ a cunning, masterful sadist.

It gave everything from the [useless, parasitical/mosntrously diabolical] bourgeoisie vs the [weak, frail,powerless/backbone of nations, brave, strong] proletariate -- to [innocent, pure, peaceful/powerless, frightened] indigenous people (or blacks ftm) -- to [pure, innocent, all powerful goddesses/subjugated, weak, endlessly raped] women -- right up to such simple narratives as:

"Trumpftplb is a [soulless hateful manipulative bigot who shucked people on his way to make a fortune / a three year old child who is supremely stupid and cannot even spell hamburger]."

or: White supremacists Jewish Ben Shapiro or Black Candace Owens...

The ideology becomes internally impervious to criticism, since it is so elusive. Make self the victim, and the kneejerk sense of wrongness of one's treatment soothes, and then flip the script to justify the endorphin release of attacking with self-righteousness.

Or in the enemy narrative: focusing one's fears outside of oneself and coalescing them in the boogeyman, and getting the cathartic release of flipping the narrative and laughing at the inferiority of that booegyman, whether because of their subhumanity or stupidity.

Something like that is what I think happens, anyways, although having gotten out of that cult, I still find it hard to understand, since it is such an incoherent, contradictory mess that I cannot see how to even take seriously, and wonder how I never saw that shit.



Then again, there's just naked opportunism, as Clinton shows.
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There's a simpler explanation for the doublethink regarding enemies. It's a common trope that bullies are secretly weak, and compensate by dishing it out so they don't have to take it. So if you're the victim your enemy must be the bully, and they're only oppressing you because they'd lose a fair competition. It's most obvious among black supremacist types, who seem to think that racism was invented because we were jealous of the Kangz and their dicks and we gained the advantage only by our ruthlessness. You could then flip it for the "victims", the powerless side is what they've been reduced to by the depredations of the Enemy and the powerful side is their potential should the scourges be lifted from them.
 
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Jarolleon said:
There's a simpler explanation for the doublethink regarding enemies. It's a common trope that bullies are secretly weak, and compensate by dishing it out so they don't have to take it. So if you're the victim your enemy must be the bully, and they're only oppressing you because they'd lose a fair competition. It's most obvious among black supremacist types, who seem to think that racism was invented because we were jealous of the Kangz and their dicks and we gained the advantage only by our ruthlessness. You could then flip it for the "victims", the powerless side is what they've been reduced to by the depredations of the Enemy and the powerful side is their potential should the scourges be lifted from them.
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I'd agree that's the surface mechanism, but I think I may have described the way it short-circuits a person on an ideological level.
 
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Manwithn0n0men said:
He hasnt broken that one YET
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You're probably right. I must have read he was thinking about it somewhere and jumbled it up in my head, but the point still is that its a convention and not a law that could be used to block an appointment if it went to the courts.
 
The wicked witch of the west try wants Trump to testify. Another nothing burger coming ahead. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nancy-...y-to-present-his-case-in-impeachment-inquiry/
( http://archive.ph/aZamc )
Washington — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi refuted Republicans' claims that President Trump has not had the opportunity for due process in the impeachment inquiry, saying that the president has "every opportunity to present his case."
"The president could come right before the committee and talk, speak all the truth that he wants if he wants," Pelosi said in an exclusive interview with "Face the Nation" moderator Margaret Brennan that aired Sunday. "He has every opportunity to present his case."
Pelosi also said that she believed the president's actions were worse than those of former President Richard Nixon.
"But it's really a sad thing. I mean, what the president did was so much worse than even what Richard Nixon did, that at some point Richard Nixon cared about the country enough to recognize that this could not continue," Pelosi said. Mr. Nixon resigned before the House could vote on impeachment.
The House Intelligence Committee has begun holding the first open hearings of the impeachment inquiry. Joint committees have also conducted several closed hearings regarding a July 25 call between Mr. Trump and the Ukrainian president where Mr. Trump asked for Ukraine to open an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden, a political rival. The call was the subject of a whistleblower complaint.
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Godzilla@1989 said:
A student who's voting for Biden at my college told me and a bunch of people that we are bigots for not supporting Biden since he's vowing to restore Obama's legacy.

Yep, apparently voting against Biden means you're racist towards Obama.
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What effing legacy? You mean the one that involved him deporting the most illegal immigrants that came over here? Is that what we're talking about? Goddamn stupid kids.
 
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