Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Man, having it open in Japan a week before it comes here in the U.S. is going to have a effect on the box office since we’ll see the shit that’s being spoiled.

I love it! It's like Terminator: Dark Fate again in the same year! Couldn't have asked for a better Christmas gift.

The harsh truth, people, is that this is the sign that our current "mythology" is pretty much done for. Because you see, before, the creators of those heroes and cultural landmarks knew that they could profit off of it but in the end, they were building an important part of their culture.
I doubt the ones that created Superman knew just how important their character would become, how they were creating a modern age god that would be "worshipped" and adored by children and adults alike for the decades to come.
However, now that most of those creators moved on to the next world, their legacies have been tarnished and manipulated by the current corrupt degenerate godless establishment. Our cultural "gods" carried a message or theme with them that adapted to our society and ourselves but now they are having those messages and themes re-writing to be current in the worst way possible, all to manipulate the minds of those moving forward.
Star Wars was a space epic of magical swordsmen that showed the journey of a boy becoming a man and the trials that he had to overcome to reach that physical, mental and spiritual maturity. Star Wars taught us that no one is beyond falling to the dark side but never beyond returning to the light either. It taught us to believe in ourselves and something greater (that greater be whatever you decide, it wasnt preachy in any way).
But now Star Wars doesnt feel like star wars anymore, it feels like a giant toy commercial that also seems despered to have a social and existential meaning, its void of true purpose and meaning. If anything, its a good representation of our causeless and increasingly nihilistic society, but unlike the real SW, that would show why thats not good and show us a better way, it instead feeds into that void that they want it to be filled with consumerism supplied by them and them only.
We are in the need to work towards producing new legends and heroes, us, not them. We need stories and legends that threaten the status quo and bring difficult questions and dares to show that yes, life isnt easy and its going to be filled with more bad than good but if you arent part of that good, then its going to eventually fade away. So support indie creators that are slowly rising from the steady extinction of our old brands and companies that once cared.

People need to re-learn the value of creating rather than destroying, even if its for a "good cause" in their eyes.

Very well said. This is why Jordan Peterson's message is so persuasive (even though I don't trust the guy anymore), but more importantly, it reminds me of where I was in college, and the atheist mindset I adopted at the time.

I remember hearing from the likes of Sam Harris and Matt Dillahunty about how you didn't need God or Christianity to be moral and live an upstanding life, taking for granted the "spiritual bulwark" it provided to civil society in America and Europe against the encroachment of Islamic culture (as Richard Dawkins would later admit to). The attitude of the atheist community on YT and among these thought leaders was, "We can build our own moral society apart from and without what came before. Our world without religion will be a better and more humane world."

But you can't just cut yourself off from your parents, your family, or your heritage like that. You only harm yourself and those you would lead. You forego humility and deference to your betters in favor of pride and arrogant defiance, either out of a sense of vengeance or just mere resentment at not being allowed to do as you pleased. I forget who it was that said this, but they criticized much of the atheist community for choosing to be atheist for emotional reasons--familial or parochial trauma, I'm mad at my father or pastor, etc. This emotionally vengeful attitude what gave way for third-wave feminist ideology in the group, leading to cancel culture and censorship.

So there was a lack of meaning in being an atheist. From my point of view, it was more about being free from your parents to do whatever you felt like doing. Like with feminism and SJW ideology in general, it's not about a set of core values. It's about selfishness, and what you're opposed to. This shows the grand irony of Rose's admonishment against "fighting what you hate." What self-centered, hate-filled group started this fight against pre-existing, healthy franchises and fandoms? And now, which one of them is fighting to save what they love?

Look, I understand the point of executives needing to pump out franchises in order to make money. But I don't understand the exceptional idea of needing to unnecessarily inject progressive liberalism in franchises that people think don't need to come back.

The box office failures of pointless, woke-filled entries in Star Wars, Terminator, Ghostbusters, Men in Black, and Charlie's Angels ought to wake this morons up at least.

It's got to be a mix of politically active agents (and/or career-focused opportunists) with hands-on control of franchises like Star Wars, while the higher ups are either asleep at the wheel thinking everything is fine (i.e. Bob Iger), or they're also drinking the Koolaid and trying to fool the shareholders/BOD that everything's fine. This includes executive-level people like C.B. Cebulski at Marvel who just hired an Asian woman who accused him of racism to prove that he's not a racist.

Well, Im working on something, I got a very close friend who is great at his art (tho this is as far as Im going, no power leveling). And these dark times only inspire me to build something people remember, both because its what I always wanted

And also because I want to tell the establishment to go fuck itself.

Yeah, Godspeed on your creative venture. People like @FROG and Ya Boi have inspired me to want to get into my creative side and make some money with it. They're rightly proud of their success and they don't care who knows about it. That's healthy.

Like their are classical female warrior archetypes in Joseph Campbell's mythology. What if Rey was based around one of those?

Most of the people at the wheel probably have no idea about mythological female archetypes / heroes. They just want their female characters to be like the male characters, but better.

They dont do Male characters any favors either

Right. Because they want the women to be men and the men to be women. I think it goes hand-in-hand with sexually degenerative fantasies, but that's just me.
 
Most of the people at the wheel probably have no idea about mythological female archetypes / heroes. They just want their female characters to be like the male characters, but better.


Look at all these rich choices to draw from

Right. Because they want the women to be men and the men to be women. I think it goes hand-in-hand with sexually degenerative fantasies, but that's just me.

None of the Characters in this farce are characters. Kylo Ren is the closest
 

Look at all these rich choices to draw from

The saddest part about this is all their efforts to push and demand more women in everywhere is it gets people annoyed at the idea of just putting more women in something--even if it could be cool or interesting. Then again, that might just be because of outrage marketing and ragebait clicks.
 
After the forum hiccup awhile back, I got out of the habit of checking the thread.

So just wanted to say, first episode of Mandalorian isn't bad. But then it won a lot of favors from me when it had in there one of the monsters from Battle for Endor.

It certainly feels more like SW than anything in awhile with dangerous animals, grit and grime, as well as humor actually drawing from characters & situation rather than bathos

I see Dave Feloni was attached. Say what you will, the man at least has some competence at telling a story.

Let's see how things go from here...
 
The saddest part about this is all their efforts to push and demand more women in everywhere is it gets people annoyed at the idea of just putting more women in something--even if it could be cool or interesting. Then again, that might just be because of outrage marketing and ragebait clicks.

Also look at these rich paints they could have drawn from

 
In case someone didn't post possible in-depth spoilers (think Mauler did on his second channel)


Wait a minute--I thought in a recent Disney POS SW comic, they revealed Palpatine was just an impotent old white guy who couldn't really run the Empire, and there was a smart woman behind him the entire time????? Is she revealed to be wearing a Palpatine suit at the end of this movie??!
 
The saddest part about this is all their efforts to push and demand more women in everywhere is it gets people annoyed at the idea of just putting more women in something--even if it could be cool or interesting.

Suppose you ran a sandwich shop and you started putting shit in your sandwiches.

When people complain, you insist they're anti-sandwich bigots.

Some of your clients have terrible taste, and don't notice the difference.

Some of your clients will point out they love sandwiches, but don't like shit.

And some will say that you're right; they hate sandwiches.
 
has this been posted here yet?
If George really was behind this, it just further begs the question of how much of this franchise Disney truly owns. We know the original unedited versions of the OT still exist. George gave special permission to screen them on two occasions last year during major film events/festivals. Yet here we are with Disney, the company that paid 4 billion to "own" this franchise and yet not only are they not allowed to show the unedited OT, but even the usage of certain terms and locations seems to be off-limits to them in everything but cheaply made novels and comics (like the words Tatooine and Moisture Farmer or blatant references or adaptations of old EU stuff). Just how fucking exceptional is Disney? I mean, we already have a pretty clear understanding of that, but to waste 4bil on something just to "rent it"? Is that why they wanted to pump out movies every year? To get their moneys worth before time ran out? What kind of fucked up deal is that? And if not, just what the fuck are they even trying to do?

After the forum hiccup awhile back, I got out of the habit of checking the thread.

So just wanted to say, first episode of Mandalorian isn't bad. But then it won a lot of favors from me when it had in there one of the monsters from Battle for Endor.

It certainly feels more like SW than anything in awhile with dangerous animals, grit and grime, as well as humor actually drawing from characters & situation rather than bathos

I see Dave Feloni was attached. Say what you will, the man at least has some competence at telling a story.

Let's see how things go from here...
I've said so before but I disliked the first episode for a number of reasons which I went into detail about before (although some of the more obscure EU references and the familiar aliens were nice, even if they had to share screen time with the ugly nu-aliens from Solo and TLJ). The second episode however was a vast improvement over any flaws existing in the first and felt like one of those nicer one shot stories from the old Dark Horse run. Which honestly makes me wish that Disney had just done something like that from the get go and made an anthology series which each episode telling the story of a different character and location in SW with every episode. But even so, my faith for this series is severely lacking for a number reasons, one being they already said they want to use it to shill sequel shit and the First Order, the other being that Disney is probably just using this show to bring people back in so they can throw more crap in their direction once their guard is down which they've already promised, like more Dr. Aphra shit, the Mexican not-Kyle Katarn show, a Kylo Ren spinoff on Disney+ and Kathleen Kennedy wanting her daughter to write her first piece of SW media. And that's without bringing up the woke elements they've promised by supposedly having the female bounty hunters upstage the main character and dealing with modern politics via the show.

The harsh truth, people, is that this is the sign that our current "mythology" is pretty much done for. Because you see, before, the creators of those heroes and cultural landmarks knew that they could profit off of it but in the end, they were building an important part of their culture.
I doubt the ones that created Superman knew just how important their character would become, how they were creating a modern age god that would be "worshipped" and adored by children and adults alike for the decades to come.
However, now that most of those creators moved on to the next world, their legacies have been tarnished and manipulated by the current corrupt degenerate godless establishment. Our cultural "gods" carried a message or theme with them that adapted to our society and ourselves but now they are having those messages and themes re-writing to be current in the worst way possible, all to manipulate the minds of those moving forward.
Star Wars was a space epic of magical swordsmen that showed the journey of a boy becoming a man and the trials that he had to overcome to reach that physical, mental and spiritual maturity. Star Wars taught us that no one is beyond falling to the dark side but never beyond returning to the light either. It taught us to believe in ourselves and something greater (that greater be whatever you decide, it wasnt preachy in any way).
But now Star Wars doesnt feel like star wars anymore, it feels like a giant toy commercial that also seems despered to have a social and existential meaning, its void of true purpose and meaning. If anything, its a good representation of our causeless and increasingly nihilistic society, but unlike the real SW, that would show why thats not good and show us a better way, it instead feeds into that void that they want it to be filled with consumerism supplied by them and them only.
We are in the need to work towards producing new legends and heroes, us, not them. We need stories and legends that threaten the status quo and bring difficult questions and dares to show that yes, life isnt easy and its going to be filled with more bad than good but if you arent part of that good, then its going to eventually fade away. So support indie creators that are slowly rising from the steady extinction of our old brands and companies that once cared.

People need to re-learn the value of creating rather than destroying, even if its for a "good cause" in their eyes.
Pretty much this. Its not just eliminating our previous mythologies, but they have such a hard on for this "new mythology" of theirs that they're creating that they see anything else as inferior and not worth existing, when the stuff they create only has the promises of being "new" and "different" and not much else without even bringing up quality, other than "it'll be on par with Greek Mythology but bigger!"
Werner Herzog on the future of 'Star Wars' and 'The Mandalorian': "There’s a new mythology, a new universe emerging, way beyond science fiction, and we haven’t had such a thing very often in human culture and history. We’ve seen it in ancient Greek mythology, but not very often."
All you idiots have been doing is making mountain-sized piles of crap for the last 5 years that would even put the worst of the Ewoks media line to shame and all under the guidance of a story team that doesn't even bother to correct any errors, just add more or talk about their vaginas. All while also releasing so much content at such an insane pace that you now have a library that surpasses even the old EU in size which took over 30 years to fill. What made them think publishing and producing so much crap in such a short amount of time was a good idea? Which brings up the first thing I said in that it feels like they only had a limited time to own SW so they wanted to pump out as much crap as possible. Either that or they realized they had no lore to build a series off of after dumping the EU so they had to create as much lore out their ass as fast as possible to make up for it, OR they desperately wanted to make back their 4 billion with an insanely doubled interest rate.
 
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@GeneralFriendliness I've found some claims on /tv/. Do these match with your sources, if you still have contact? So far, it seems stuff is falling mostly in line with your leaks, but I've been trawling /tv/.

Mandalorian is falling out of favor, with "baby yeed" being the only thing that is talked about, (because it's fucking TFA but with mandoes).
 

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@GeneralFriendliness I've found some claims on /tv/. Do these match with your sources, if you still have contact? So far, it seems stuff is falling mostly in line with your leaks, but I've been trawling /tv/.

Mandalorian is falling out of favor, with "baby yeed" being the only thing that is talked about, (because it's fucking TFA but with mandoes).
Oh wow... I could legit see this being the refined form of what was outlined here...

It's so bad, so mindnumbingly stupid, that I can see it be in the final cut. Like shit, no wonder the audience scored that fucking cut a 4/100. It makes Dark Empire look smart, and I hate that series because of how hard it shits on Anakin's redemption. That's the biggest beef I have with it, and yet it's only one of the biggest for this designed to fail pile of shit.

Seriously, they're giving us 8 days to get spoilers out with this Japan move, and the Euros a couple of days warning too.
 
So just wanted to say, first episode of Mandalorian isn't bad. But then it won a lot of favors from me when it had in there one of the monsters from Battle for Endor

Which one? The ice monster or the blerg?

And that's without bringing up the woke elements they've promised by supposedly having the female bounty hunters upstage the main character and dealing with modern politics via the show.

The show goes to shit and gets fan backlash once Gina Carano comes into the picture. Calling it now.
 
@GeneralFriendliness I've found some claims on /tv/. Do these match with your sources, if you still have contact? So far, it seems stuff is falling mostly in line with your leaks, but I've been trawling /tv/.

Mandalorian is falling out of favor, with "baby yeed" being the only thing that is talked about, (because it's fucking TFA but with mandoes).
A few things seem new, but this also confirms several things I'm familiar with or suspected based on hints but weren't referenced completely yet. Like the confirmation that the Knights of Ren are just Palpatine clones (which I mentioned before in this thread), but what is new is the possibility of Palpatine in ROTJ just being a clone while the real one was sitting on his couch watching Hutt porn, which when I heard about it I thought "there's no way they can be that stupid right? They wouldn't retcon his first appearance, his defining moment, the film which would define the Emperor for over 30 years just for some cheap explanation... right?" But here we are. They were truly stupid enough to go there, and the drones will eat this shit up for being subversive despite shitting on Dark Empire for also using clones, but at least in DE, Vader actually took out the body that had Palpatine's actual soul, threw a giant wrench into his plans and ruined his fucking empire and reputation while giving his son the chance to defeat him himself, while in Plan 9 this was all part of the big "master plan" and Palpatine always suspected he would be betrayed and for some insane reason actually wanted his Empire to fail, so there was never any real sense of achievement. All Vader and Luke were doing was fighting against a soulless meat puppet that was barely a quarter as strong as the original, so now its up to Rey to go full Avatar Goku and defeat the true Palpatine after he goes Super Saiyan after eating Kylo Ren's soul... Honestly, the way Battlefront II portrayed Palpatine's re-tarded "chess" plan has got nothing on this. This is insanely stupid, yet drones will lap it up.

Also
>Execute Order 67
Are you fucking kidding me? This has got to be a joke. There's no way they'd be stupid enough to even do something like this since it would make zero sense in context. The Orders were secret pre-programmed rules put into the original Clones, with 65 of them also being about killing other individuals or groups. Why would he have an Order 67 made all these years later when the Republic and its old clones are no longer valid and there's no reason to hide the intents of these new clones?
>shoots out force lightning to disable fleet
This is something I also mentioned months ago in this thread which was seemingly confirmed in the last trailer in the scene where the cavalry is running on top of the ships, you can see a giant blast of lightning shoot up from the ground.
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This is definitely a more refined and detailed version of the leaks me and a few others have been sharing for months. The Palpatine in ROTJ being a clone shit is definitely new and it seems to confirm a lot of issues. I still can't believe how much of this movie Disney let slip. Either they desperately wanted feedback without being direct or they have too many disgruntled employees under them.
 
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@GeneralFriendliness I've found some claims on /tv/. Do these match with your sources, if you still have contact? So far, it seems stuff is falling mostly in line with your leaks, but I've been trawling /tv/.

Mandalorian is falling out of favor, with "baby yeed" being the only thing that is talked about, (because it's fucking TFA but with mandoes).
I'm sorry there's a lot about these leaks I view as entirely plausible but the idea that Palpatine was playing 24D Backgammon and Vader killed a clone of his instead of himself is too implausible for me to think it's real.
Rich Evans was right that they'll handwave force bullshit before admitting the ROTJ Emperor was a clone or somesuch.
 
I'm sorry there's a lot about these leaks I view as entirely plausible but the idea that Palpatine was playing 24D Backgammon and Vader killed a clone of his instead of himself is too implausible for me to think it's real.
Rich Evans was right that they'll handwave force bullshit before admitting the ROTJ Emperor was a clone or somesuch.
Obviously Luke Skywalker was a horcrux, which is why they had to kill him off.
 
I'd hate to change the subject so suddenly considering how much bullshit this revelation about Palpatine not really being in ROTJ is, but one thing has definitely caught my eye as of late and its that I've seen zero Porgs in anything relating to Plan 9.

Even in this shot which should have Han the Porg.
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And as I've said before, there's been a lot of shitty Porg content in the comics and novels, including the one where Chewie officially names the Porg sidekick from TLJ "Han" and gives him a little vest.
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Is Disney that scared of these little guys after TLJ's blunder? Or are they just reducing their screen time like they did with Rose?


the idea that Palpatine was playing 24D Backgammon
is too implausible for me to think it's real.
Technically that part was already confirmed in EA's Battlefront II's story mode where Palpatine literally compares his plan to 4D chess and says the Empire/Pawns have to commit suicide for letting its King piece die and rebuild itself for no reason despite that he's not even dead and will lose a lot of resources needlessly.
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A few things seem new, but this also confirms several things I'm familiar with or suspected based on hints but weren't referenced completely yet. Like the confirmation that the Knights of Ren are just Palpatine clones (which I mentioned before in this thread)

Wow, that's the plot to Advent Children:

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Fucking embarrassing. JJ's stooped to copying anime.
 
Fucking....god that "the ROTJ Emperor was just a clone" rumor is so goddamn wretched....it has to be true.

The retarded spastic execs are really going down the "THE ONLY WAY TO WIN BACK THE FANS IS TO RETROACTIVELY UNDO EVERYTHING THE HEROS ACOMPLISHED IN THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY AND MAKE REY THE SUPER DUPER BESTEST AND MOST BADASS CHARACTER EVAR WHEN SHE EASILY WINS!" road....holy fucking shit....

Christ almighty how the hell can this godforsaken trainwreck franchise still find new ways to disappoint me?
 
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