Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[BScCollateral]

Don't believe me? What did Tarkin do in RO that couldn't have been done by a fuzzy Hologram and a face/voice-double, or an entirely different character?

Absolutely nothing. Tarkin could have been left out of the film entirely, since there was a character added specifically for the role of Guy Building Death Star.

All it needed was a line about Tarkin taking command personally when he was killed.

 

[Flexo]

Which one? The ice monster or the blerg?

The blerg/fish-horse.

They were first seen in the 2nd Ewoks movie.

 

[AnotherPleb]

The Carrie Fisher footage is going to be like the footage of the posthumous Bruce Lee movie, or something like that.

 

[BScCollateral]

Fischer can be replaced by JJ Abrams' chiropractor.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

In Inflation adjusted Dollars "A new Hope" made 3.3 Billion, Empire made 1.6 Billion [inflation adjusted], and return of the jedi made 1.4 billion, Phantom Menace made 1.58 bill [inflation adjusted], AotC made 939 million [inflation adjusted], Rots made 1.118 [inflation adjusted], TFA made about 2.3 Billion [inflation adjusted], and TLJ made 1.378 Billion inflation adjusted So the Rise of Skywalker is going to make less money [If the original series trend holds] or more money [if the prequel trend holds but that was a movie promoted as "this is the good one we promise:" So the drop off between Empire is 200 Million. So if it follows that means the Rise of Skywalker isn't a failure if it comes in at 1.178 Billion. However inflation adjusted it cost 72 Million to make Empire and 83 million to make Jedi [So a rough profit margin of 1.458 b and 1.317 Billion respectively] profit Margin on TLJ is 714 Million.....So that means a SW movie might make around 500 Million in profit if that trend follows [Oh and Rise of Skywalker cost more to make then the last jedi]

 

[Hexadecimal]

In Inflation adjusted Dollars "A new Hope" made 3.3 Billion, Empire made 1.6 Billion [inflation adjusted], and return of the jedi made 1.4 billion, Phantom Menace made 1.58 bill [inflation adjusted], AotC made 939 million [inflation adjusted], Rots made 1.118 [inflation adjusted], TFA made about 2.3 Billion [inflation adjusted], and TLJ made 1.378 Billion inflation adjusted So the Rise of Skywalker is going to make less money [If the original series trend holds] or more money [if the prequel trend holds but that was a movie promoted as "this is the good one we promise:" So the drop off between Empire is 200 Million. So if it follows that means the Rise of Skywalker isn't a failure if it comes in at 1.178 Billion. However inflation adjusted it cost 72 Million to make Empire and 83 million to make Jedi [So a rough profit margin of 1.458 b and 1.317 Billion respectively] profit Margin on TLJ is 714 Million.....So that means a SW movie might make around 500 Million in profit if that trend follows [Oh and Rise of Skywalker cost more to make then the last jedi]

Especially since the reshoots apparently cost an additional 300m on top of OG production costs. Assuming IX production costs are the same as TLJ based on those numbers, and you add in the supposed 300m in reshoots, IX would profit just over 200m if the trend holds.

IDK where you're getting the TLJ budget number from exactly, unless you're factoring in marketing and so forth.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Especially since the reshoots apparently cost an additional 300m on top of OG production costs. Assuming IX production costs are the same as TLJ based on those numbers, and you add in the supposed 300m in reshoots, IX would profit just over 200m if the trend holds.

IDK where you're getting the TLJ budget number from exactly, unless you're factoring in marketing and so forth.

And if it underperforms....there is a realistic chance this movie could lose money

and I was factoring in marketing and so forth for TLJ and other movies

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Okay, how could Palpatine knew Vader would back stab him? Granted, I haven't seen ROTJ in awhile, but I don't recall Palpatine suspecting Vader would cuck him at the right time.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Okay, how could Palpatine knew Vader would back stab him? Granted, I haven't seen ROTJ in awhile, but I don't recall Palpatine suspecting Vader would cuck him at the right time.

He has prophetic force powers

 

[Godzilla@1989]

He has prophetic force powers

I guess that can be explained, but ROTJ never mentioned this except he wanted Luke to kill Vader as part of the 2 rule.

But this leak revelation leads more plot holes than answers. And I don't want the average Disney shiller to tell me to read a shitty tie-in before I watch it because if you do that, that's lazy writing.

 

[Poe-Shen Zcela]

Okay, how could Palpatine knew Vader would back stab him? Granted, I haven't seen ROTJ in awhile, but I don't recall Palpatine suspecting Vader would cuck him at the right time.

There was a moment when Palpatine found it odd that Vader sensed Luke was coming with the Rebels to attack the Death Star II, but he didn't. He asked Vader if his feelings on this matter were clear or not, to which Vader replied "Yes", and so he sent him to the sanctuary moon of Endor to capture him, somehow knowing that Luke would go to Vader.

 

[PseudoScrooge]

Fischer can be replaced by JJ Abrams' chiropractor.

 

[PeeveTheSheev]

New TV ad, couple of morsels of new footage. Does Rey jumping for the Falcon line up with any leaks? JJ really leaning on that 3PO tearjerker for this one;

STAR WARS THE RISE OF SKYWALKER - TV SPOT ( NEW FOOTAGE)

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[Judge Holden]

Something struck me yesterday!

After TLJ hit theatres (like a wet turd), amidst the backlash, there was a sudden outpouring of wonder over how Leia would be handled going forward...you know, since they didn't take the opportunity to kill off her character in said wet turd.

1) At that time--as soon as we knew "the reins" were given to Abrams again, he immediately took to the media to say he wasn't sure what to do about Leia. I even read one article where he actually said they had gone through "every scrap" of leftover footage, and he made a point to say there wasn't anything usable. Everything leftover was merely alternate takes of what was used.

2) Also around the same time, articles appeared suggesting that Leia could be a Tarkin-like CGI cartoon drone, and those articles quickly quoted Fisher's family as saying that would NOT be happening, and no permission would be given to have a CGI zombie Leia.

SO...in light of the recent leaks, or any leaks for that matter: How is Leia's involvement in Plan IX possible? Does this cast any doubt on the veracity of any of the leaks, or has somebody been bought off somewhere? Are we in for a new wrinkle in the shitshow, with a cartoon corpse possibly running around with a lightsaber?

Kind of offtopic but I am still astounded by how utterly Leia was wasted in her capacity as "one of the two last surviving force users at the end of the original trilogy" come TFA. Sure Carrie Fisher wasnt exactly spry enough to do much lightsaber work without heavy use of stunt doubles, but why then was she not portrayed as a Yoda esque "subtle yet insanely powerful" force wielder from the getgo. Have her be the leading Jedi of the republic/nu rebellion in Luke's absence and have her abilities be used to better handwave some of the dumb shit in that movie.

.....actually come to think of it why the actual fuck didnt they give all the mouldy tangerine alien's lines and scenes to her in order to halfway justify her "immediate connection to rey" idiocy they randomly threw in?! I mean seriously all of orange femyoda's scenes would be improved massively if it was actually Leia giving Rey some initial training/pep talks and would actually halfway justify her having Anakin's lightsaber.

Infact now I think more about this, maybe Leia could also completely switch roles with Han, with her personally searching the galaxy for luke while he stays behind as general of the republic/resistance thus showing his own character growth, and her eventually fully becoming Obi Wan by sacrificing herself while fighting Emo Ben to give the others time to flee

I dunno...I just figure that "fully realised Jedi master whose power is repeatedly demonstrated on screen" is a more fitting fulfilment of Leia's character than sad old woman in a dress who latches on to random strangers, and who only uses her force abilities to save her own wrinkly ass instead of doing anything useful.

But then this is what happens when you get people who dont give a fuck about a franchise writing the characters to be as generic and undeveloped as possible, and thinking that they can spin the shit they did to Leia as #woke, even as they turn a badass rebel princess into a useless soppy joke of a character, so long as they declare that character is now called "GENERAL leia" and thus is magically more empowered now

Fucking christ I hate these worthless fucking hacks. They turned one of the OG badass female leads of the 80s into weepy space-hillary and are now balls deep in her corpse trying to CGI fuck it back to life.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

.....actually come to think of it why the actual fuck didnt they give all the mouldy tangerine alien's lines and scenes to her in order to halfway justify her "immediate connection to rey" idiocy they randomly threw in?! I mean seriously all of orange femyoda's scenes would be improved massively if it was actually Leia giving Rey some initial training/pep talks and would actually halfway justify her having Anakin's lightsaber.

Who plays orange anus face Yoda?
Why would disney/Lucas want to feature her?

Infact now I think more about this, maybe Leia could also completely switch roles with Han, with her personally searching the galaxy for luke while he stays behind as general of the republic/resistance thus showing his own character growth, and her eventually fully becoming Obi Wan by sacrificing herself while fighting Emo Ben to give the others time to flee

But then the force couldn't be female

 

[Poe-Shen Zcela]

Fucking christ I hate these worthless fucking hacks. They turned one of the OG badass female leads of the 80s into weepy space-hillary and are now balls deep in her corpse trying to CGI fuck it back to life.

Fucking people and IPs to life seems to be a recurring motif in Hollywood.

 

[Antipathy]

Kind of offtopic but I am still astounded by how utterly Leia was wasted in her capacity as "one of the two last surviving force users at the end of the original trilogy" come TFA. Sure Carrie Fisher wasnt exactly spry enough to do much lightsaber work without heavy use of stunt doubles, but why then was she not portrayed as a Yoda esque "subtle yet insanely powerful" force wielder from the getgo. Have her be the leading Jedi of the republic/nu rebellion in Luke's absence and have her abilities be used to better handwave some of the dumb shit in that movie.

.....actually come to think of it why the actual fuck didnt they give all the mouldy tangerine alien's lines and scenes to her in order to halfway justify her "immediate connection to rey" idiocy they randomly threw in?! I mean seriously all of orange femyoda's scenes would be improved massively if it was actually Leia giving Rey some initial training/pep talks and would actually halfway justify her having Anakin's lightsaber.

Infact now I think more about this, maybe Leia could also completely switch roles with Han, with her personally searching the galaxy for luke while he stays behind as general of the republic/resistance thus showing his own character growth, and her eventually fully becoming Obi Wan by sacrificing herself while fighting Emo Ben to give the others time to flee

I dunno...I just figure that "fully realised Jedi master whose power is repeatedly demonstrated on screen" is a more fitting fulfilment of Leia's character than sad old woman in a dress who latches on to random strangers, and who only uses her force abilities to save her own wrinkly ass instead of doing anything useful.

But then this is what happens when you get people who dont give a fuck about a franchise writing the characters to be as generic and undeveloped as possible, and thinking that they can spin the shit they did to Leia as #woke, even as they turn a badass rebel princess into a useless soppy joke of a character, so long as they declare that character is now called "GENERAL leia" and thus is magically more empowered now

Fucking christ I hate these worthless fucking hacks. They turned one of the OG badass female leads of the 80s into weepy space-hillary and are now balls deep in her corpse trying to CGI fuck it back to life.

Here, let me use my powers of autism to allow Leia to be a Jedi Master while not doing any saber work
The Jedi Mind Trick
There. That's her thing. She's really good at manipulating the minds of others, which as a politician allows her to subtly shift the minds of others, to make them more amenable to hearing her ideas. This would also at least give Rey an excuse for her mind trick, if she had a quick lesson with Leia, who would by that point likely be a master of the Mind Trick.

Who plays orange anus face Yoda?
Why would disney/Lucas want to feature her?

IIRC, a half black-half Mexican woman is the VA for Orange Yoda

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

IIRC, a half black-half Mexican woman is the VA for Orange Yoda

She is being promoted by the Darth Rat [She is also in the marvel movies]

 

[Godzilla@1989]

You know, if this bombs, why do I get the feeling the idiots who shill Disney Wars will demand Disney to release the "JJ Cut" in a hypocritical manner when they mock the DC fans for demanding the Synder Cut?

 

[Judge Holden]

Here, let me use my powers of autism to allow Leia to be a Jedi Master while not doing any saber work
The Jedi Mind Trick
There. That's her thing. She's really good at manipulating the minds of others, which as a politician allows her to subtly shift the minds of others, to make them more amenable to hearing her ideas. This would also at least give Rey an excuse for her mind trick, if she had a quick lesson with Leia, who would by that point likely be a master of the Mind Trick.

You know how fucking miserable it is to know that a bunch of edgelord niggers on kiwifarms can unironically formulate a better and #woker star wars story than the entire disney story department?

Seriously all the story ideas I have seen from people in this thread have been centred on giving more depth, background, and gravitas to the female and non-white protagonists in order to give them a halfway chance of gaining both mass audience popularity and the respect of crusty old fannurds. When we think of how we might hypothetically fix the sequels, we think solely of building these characters up from the one dimensional drones they have been portrayed as, and allowing them the chance to have actual character arcs and growth beyond the half dozen focus group bulletpoints disney came up with.