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Bronze Age collapse was more than likely multiple parties wanting to pull out of their agreements at the same time, and then a few of the parties not realizing that they can't be self sustaining. Couple that with a supposed 1 or 2 major natural disasters and shit is in disarray. Resources couldn't flow and reach their destination.
 
Bronze Age collapse was more than likely multiple parties wanting to pull out of their agreements at the same time, and then a few of the parties not realizing that they can't be self sustaining. Couple that with a supposed 1 or 2 major natural disasters and shit is in disarray. Resources couldn't flow and reach their destination.
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Typically this is what causes shit to deteriorate really fast. Even looking at the Stock market crash of the early 1900's it was due to having no stop gaps and nothing to replace the resources or removed outlets overnight. Hell you could also probably cite world war 1 and all their idiotic mutual agreement pacts as falling prey to the same assumptions.

Outside of a meteorite hitting and causing everything to go to shit, they probably essentially crushed their economic system with regulations to the point where people wanted to get out of it and didn't have any safeguards or alternatives in place.
 
Typically this is what causes shit to deteriorate really fast. Even looking at the Stock market crash of the early 1900's it was due to having no stop gaps and nothing to replace the resources or removed outlets overnight. Hell you could also probably cite world war 1 and all their idiotic mutual agreement pacts as falling prey to the same assumptions.

Outside of a meteorite hitting and causing everything to go to shit, they probably essentially crushed their economic system with regulations to the point where people wanted to get out of it and didn't have any safeguards or alternatives in place.
It doesn't need to be a meteorite, it just needs to be something like a wave of crop failure or temperature change that kicks off a barbarian migration. That was pretty much what did in Rome.

Edit: And that was still not a citation. That was extrapolation from other events.
 
It doesn't need to be a meteorite, it just needs to be something like a wave of crop failure or temperature change that kicks off a barbarian migration. That was pretty much what did in Rome.

Edit: And that was still not a citation. That was extrapolation from other events.
it couldn't have been crops because the areas who partook in the bronze age spanned multiple continents. If it was a huge famine there would have been more evidence of one.

Rome when it was falling slowly allocated resources and other valuables out into other areas of the empire that existed past the fall of Rome. Stuff still exists because places like Monasteries kept stuff archived. All these civilizations from the bronze age had record keeping, the more likely scenario is that everyone fucked off back to their own yard and the large trading networks fell apart. The places that couldn't be self sustaining more than likely fell where as before they had resources due to trading to handle issues which now dried up.
 
it couldn't have been crops because the areas who partook in the bronze age spanned multiple continents. If it was a huge famine there would have been more evidence of one.

Rome when it was falling slowly allocated resources and other valuables out into other areas of the empire that existed past the fall of Rome. Stuff still exists because places like Monasteries kept stuff archived. All these civilizations from the bronze age had record keeping, the more likely scenario is that everyone fucked off back to their own yard and the large trading networks fell apart. The places that couldn't be self sustaining more than likely fell where as before they had resources due to trading to handle issues which now dried up.

We have actual textual evidence from the period and the region. Mass famine is possible if the region is undergoing a drought and the evidence supports widespread, multi-decade water shortage.
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Then again middle eastern civilization before the bronze age collapse may have been about as fragile as those old computers that would get wiped if you accidentally put a fridge magnet near them. Did they even have multiple levels of governance or was it just a bunch of despots with pet scribes and guards holding everything together?

They had the beginnings of proper beaucracy. Not to the levels of the Chinese, but they were making inroads into records, courts, non-bloodline appointments and meritocracy.
The late bronze age collapse put an end to all that, as everyone fell back into war bands and rule of the sword. You wouldn't see anything approach the levels of governmental complexity for a couple hundred years.

The Egyptians more or less had to regress in the fight for survival, holding on to control in the kingdom proper only by empowering the priests - which caused problems later on. Egypt lost territory in the collapse they never reclaimed.

All the civilizations survived the collapse - IIRC the Hittites didn't last very long as anything more than a people. The Assyrians didn't do all that great and didn't survive the iron age except in name. The Canaanites were a people with many different kingdoms who were never really united, but there were still Canannites after.

edit: Fuck I forgot about the trade. Trade was very carefully managed and, right up to the collapse, diplomacy had taken over for violence. The trading parties didn't make war on each other because they couldn't afford to. They instead let out their personal beefs with rivals by fucking with their exports and trying to get everyone else to stop trading with them or levy tariffs. There both sides of correspondance between (IIRC) the Egyptian Pharoh and the King of Crete agreeing to stop doing business with the Hittites because the Hittites had refused to honor a debt.
There was also a letter from an Assyrian King asking for the Egyptian Pharoh to send one of the royal sons to be married to his daughter as he didn't have any sons of his own and seemed to be accepting he was now shooting blanks.

The suriving fragments are fanscinating and amazing how a lot of what was being discussed mirrors current global situations.
The reason we don't know more is because all the writing of the time was being done on clay tablets that didn't weather the chaos of the collapse so good.
 
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Fartwell has the personality of a brick. If he has to lie about not farting of all things, then he does not understand humor nor does he have the capacity to stand up to Putin or Xi Jinping. Not even pretend to.

I would not be shock if the Democratic did away with him for being an embarrassment to their party. He dropped out after the first debate, showing how little skin he has. Also, I want to punch his smug face, laugh at his bloody nose, and then punch it again so that everyone has to look at his missing teeth.
 
We are demonstrating the ability to learn from history, something DNC leadership lacks.

(also highlighting precisely how bad a global trade collapse would be)
It also ties into the Dem's wishing furiously and in some ways trying to make a recession or a depression happen in order to hurt Trump and/or his supporters. Short sighted shit like that has massive repercussions and the people who Hate Double Plus Ungood Orange Man don't really look at the fact that when the US drunkenly stumbles slightly other nations end up flat on their face with the universe taking the boots to them.

People like MovieBob and people like him want the Midwest to collapse, people to lose their farms and livelihood, while some groups want everyone to eat bugs.

Now, apply that to nations that rely on US farming to have cheap food, that rely on cheap US oil exports suddenly not getting their food because farmers have had to either shift to cash crops/crash herds or have gone bankrupt. You see some of that right now in California with the drought going on that's exacerbated by almond and other high water requirement crops.

Add in the problems with Africa killing their farmers or otherwise fucking up their local farming.

The Great Bronze Age Collapse is a good example of how shit can QUICKLY go downhill for large populations.

The Ethopian Famine that I saw commercials of fly covered African kids with some rich white chick begging me to send money to them wasn't that long ago and the world sent a LOT of aid to them (what happened to that aid is another fun thing that we probably shouldn't get into here) from money to food to tractors to fertilizer.

A recession or, worse yet, a replay of the Great Depression would basically fuck the world ala the GBAC. The world during the Late Bronze Age was just as complex and wide-reaching as today's world, and, as we saw, just as fragile as it is today.

(Sorry, I'll quit sperging about it and how it applies to current events, I've just fascinated by it since I first learned about it)
 
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Letter from a Hittite Noble to another, ca 1488 BC
Translation:
"We will have proof King Trumphemset has colluded with the Minoans. This latest scandal will surely this time be his undoing. He is unpleasant, this ochre-hued man."
 
Apparently, facts aren't in Trump's favor:

You accidentally linked a "comedian", maybe you meant to link a portion of the hearing? Or of some transcripts?
 
So I just came across this. Funniest shit ever. A blind person criticizing two blind people for being blind.

Kyle Kulinski is just as out of touch with reality as Chris Cillizza and S. E. Cupp are. You would think that with two completely opposite takes that the truth would either be in the middle or one would be closer. But no, they're both equally wrong. I don't think that makes sense geometrically, but neither do these idiots.
 
Apparently, facts aren't in Trump's favor:

Letter From Schifferumapesh to the Pelosit tribal coalition.
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"Our forces lie arrayed/
Against the ochre king/
His nefariousness/
Shall not stand/
His people shall/
Avail him not/
For the force of the gods/
And of the ages is on our side/
This time.
 
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