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Transgender woman forced to remove makeup for driver's license photo: 'I was sobbing'
A transgender woman says she was recently humiliated when going through what should have been a standard process — that of having her photo taken for a new driver’s license.
“My emotions were going crazy,” Jaydee Dolinar tells Yahoo Lifestyle of the upsetting experience, which occurred at the Fairpark Driver License Office in Salt Lake City, Utah.
Dolinar, a PhD student and teaching assistant in the geography department of the University of Utah, went in to get her driver’s license replaced on Friday, as her wallet had been stolen earlier that week. And while things went smoothly at first, with an employee taking her photo, Dolinar was then met by a supervisor, who told her they could not issue the license because, she recounts, “my gender marker didn’t match my appearance,” and doing so could cause problems with “facial recognition software.”
She says she is in the process of getting her name and gender marker officially changed through the Utah court system — an “extensive and expensive process,” she says — and was fully ready for there to be some discussion of the disparity, particularly because her old license photo, from seven years ago, was taken when she had just started to transition and had a more traditionally male appearance.
But Dolinar was not ready to be told she’d have to leave without a license.
“I asked her, ‘What can I do?’” she explains, getting emotional as she recounts what happened next, which was the supervisor telling her, “Well, we have some hand sanitizer and paper towels…’” which Dolinar accepted and used to rub off her makeup — a painful process, both physically and emotionally.
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“In hindsight, I should not have done it, but I needed my license,” she says. “I just wanted to get it over with, and thought, if those are the rules, I’m going to follow them. I absolutely didn’t want to have to go back.”
Later that day, she recounted the incident to a friend, who suggested she file a complaint with the Utah Department of Public Safety Driver License Division, which oversees the licensing process. But, Dolinar explains, “I’ve had discrimination issues in the past in dealing with certain government entities here, and my experience has been pretty poor.” So, instead, she contacted a reporter at Salt Lake City, Utah news station KSTU.
Following that initial report, the agency publicly apologized for the supervisor’s actions, sharing a statement with Yahoo Lifestyle that says, in part, “The customer in this incident was treated wrongfully and should not have been asked to remove her makeup. Upon learning of the incident, we immediately reached out to Ms. Dolinar to apologize but have not been able to connect with her. We are sorry and deeply saddened that this occurred and will continue our efforts to ensure these incidents never happen.”
Dolinar, though, tells Yahoo Lifestyle that she has not received any messages from the agency, and knows of the apology only through “secondhand sources,” adding, “I have no idea what is happening.”
The License Division’s statement pointed out that the agency has been making pointed efforts to treat transgender customers with respect through its “longstanding partnership with Transgender Education Advocates (TEA) of Utah,” which the department had collaborated with “when developing our policy and conducting employee training, which can be found online here. In working alongside TEA of Utah, our Division strives to develop a trusting relationship with the LGBTQ community.”
That history of collaboration is what made the incident with Dolinar particularly troubling, Sue Robbins, chair of the board of directors for Transgender Education Advocates of Utah, tells Yahoo Lifestyle.
“We worked with them in 2015,” Robbins says, after two transgender women were forced to remove their makeup and wigs before having their license photos taken. “We addressed the departments and worked through everything that was wrong, so there was an understanding with managers. Education was given to all employees, policy was written and a video [above] was left behind for trainings.”
Robbins adds, “This happening again is very troubling.”
The Utah license division does have a rule about people not wearing so much makeup in a photo that they cannot be identified — such as with clown makeup or other costumes. But the intent of that policy, notes Robbins, “should be that [people] are not trying to commit fraud… So, a transgender woman who presents the same way as she does every single day is not trying to commit fraud.”
Further, she adds, “There’s no law that says you have to have ‘F’ on your birth certificate to wear makeup. We all get to appear the way we choose.”
The issue of transgender individuals facing discrimination from state employees when attempting to get licenses issued is one that pops up now and then across the country, says Noah Lewis, interim senior staff attorney with the national Transgender Legal Defense and Education Fund (TLDEF) — although not as often now as in past years.
“It’s rare that we hear about these cases,” Lewis tells Yahoo Lifestyle. “But what tends to happen is there is an individual clerk who is not properly trained — or the agency itself has not confronted the issue before and doesn’t know the law, so they make a mistake.”
The TLDEF got involved in perhaps the most known case of its kind back in 2015, when South Carolina teen Capri (née Chase) Culpepper was told she would have to remove her makeup before having her driver’s license photo taken. She filed a federal lawsuit, with representation by TLDEF, which led to a settlement that forced the state DMV to change its policy, making clear that a person is not misrepresenting his or her identity “when the applicant’s makeup, clothing or accessories do not match traditional expectations.”
In another case that same year, in West Virginia, it took only the threat of lawsuit by TLDEF, on behalf of two transgender women, for the state to change its similarly discriminatory Division of Motor Vehicles policy.
Laws regarding identity documents and gender identity vary by state, ranging from progressive, self-affirming laws — such as the one just announced on Monday in Michigan, which will now allow trans people who want to correct their sex designation on existing documents to simply fill out a form, have a new photo taken and pay a nominal fee — to more stringent systems, like Utah’s. In those cases, trans individuals face potential roadblocks, like Dolinar did, if they have not yet changed their names and gender markers to match their transition.
Still, updated birth certificate or not, Lewis notes, “The government can’t make regulations that are discriminatory. In this [Utah] case, they can’t exclude trans women — or men, for that matter — from wearing makeup, because there’s no justification for doing so.” He adds that “the purpose of an ID document is to identify the person, so when they’re forcing a transgender person to look different than they do in everyday life, it’s unhelpful for everybody.”
For Dolinar, who says she would consider legal action depending on the outcome here, her experience was not only unhelpful but hurtful.
“After I got my picture re-taken, and I was sobbing up at the front desk, another worker starting explaining to me what kind of makeup I could wear if I did change my gender marker, just adding insult to the wound,” she says. “There was no empathy.”
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Transgender woman forced to remove makeup for driver's license photo: 'I was sobbing'
“My emotions were going crazy,” Jaydee Dolinar tells Yahoo Lifestyle of the upsetting experience, which occurred at the Fairpark Driver License Office in Salt Lake City, Utah.web.archive.org
——Transgender woman forced to remove makeup for driver's license photo: 'I was sobbing'
“My emotions were going crazy,” Jaydee Dolinar tells Yahoo Lifestyle of the upsetting experience, which occurred at the Fairpark Driver License Office in Salt Lake City, Utah.
On one hand this could be exaggerated but on the other hand it’s the DMV, so they deserve the heat even if it’s fabricated.
If there were any doubt trannies were mentally ill, that guy looks in the mirror in his hideous womanface and apparently likes what he sees.
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Looks like bad plastic surgery. His features are vaguely feline.
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Flames visible from outer fucking space.
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"Women scream at every little thing. I'm a woman so I scream at every little things too. Te he he! Nyan!"
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Their timeline is almost complete contradiction every other tweet. A whining about I'm sooooo desirable, guys! SO DESIREABLE but
constantly. If they're like this on twitter, I can't imagine how insufferable they are in real life.
Also; Ohohohoho. Dat body tho.
I'm so attractive you guys! would you fuck me? cause I'd fuck me?
Nice overdrawn lip there.
They do an attempt at pouty fishlips in every. single. photo. made even worse by them overdrawing their lips in an effort to make them seem bigger.
I'm pretty sure the 90% ghosting rate is because once they see them him in person it's a big fuckin' nope. The two month ones, if they're even real, are just pity parties.
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Hmmm, I wonder which men have fetishes for angler fish and that botttomtooth dude from Family Guy.
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The bangs thing I at least sort of get so they could confirm my eyes were in fact brown, but this is a new level of fucking stupid.
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Actually even back then Interpol was using ears as identification. Ears are as unique as fingerprints. So that was why.
I mean it's a bit creepy they were gathering data that far back, but there was a reason.
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It's also very, very rare that you'll see a FTM complaining about being let onto any male sports teams, because unlike a 200 lb muscly man in a dress trying to get into high school varsity volleyball, FTMs obviously can't just easily dominate their competitors in male sports. Pretty suspicious considering how often they tell you that males and females have no biological differences.
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It's actually useful to have that extra bit of information. You know the crowd that shouts "you probably think all [people] look the same!", right? If you're a honkey in a country or in a region of a country where they don't see a lot of honkeys then we can be hard to tell apart. Visually confirming that the photo in the passport matches the person holding it isn't as trivial as it seems, so extra details like the ear in the passport photo actually helps. Or it at least speeds things up so they can get to the part where they try to figure out if your signature on the form is exactly the same as the one in the passport, I don't envy the ones used to asian script having to try to figure out that squiggly nonsense.
Rare cases, not at big airports or anything like that.
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Really? I've seen conspiracy web sites do the ear matching thing and I thought it was total BS (I'm sure their version of it was), but I didn't know that ear identification was an actual thing. The more you know ...
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More on the subject of Meredith Russo/Stroud https://old.reddit.com/r/GenderCrit...help_my_peaktrans_has_reached_a_peak/f86084n/
I didn't notice this when I read Anna Slatz' article the first time, but he took his ex-wife surname as a pen name. Nice!
In other news: the UK Labour party's manifesto pledges to protect sex-based spaces and rights.
Penis News and their homies are not pleased https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/11/...general-election-prep-gender-recognition-act/
I didn't notice this when I read Anna Slatz' article the first time, but he took his ex-wife surname as a pen name. Nice!
In other news: the UK Labour party's manifesto pledges to protect sex-based spaces and rights.
Penis News and their homies are not pleased https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/11/...general-election-prep-gender-recognition-act/
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there are two different court cases going down about the right of women to talk freely about transgenderism, one is an employment lawsuit where a woman was fired for believing in biological sex, the other is a lawsuit against the cops for arresting people for tweeting mean things. I have no idea how the employment lawsuit is going to shake out, but the cops lawsuit seems like it is going to end poorly for the police. The cops are already trying to pass the buck onto mermaids for training them incorrectly, lol.In other news: the UK Labour party's manifesto pledges to protect sex-based spaces and rights.
Penis News and their homies are not pleased https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/11/...general-election-prep-gender-recognition-act/
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At least in the U.S., incompetently picking a proper organization to do the training would be as much a reason for liability as doing it yourself. Picking a bunch of pedophiles with extreme fringe views as your training organization couldn't possibly be a rational thing to do.
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The danish handball women have to face Australia with a 220 lb/100 kg tranny on their team in the upcoming world championships, and it seems the danes aren't too thrilled about that:
You might have heard about this person after participating in the Asian handball championship a year or so ago:
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It is a bit of a jam that awaits the Danish handball women when they start the World Cup in Japanese Kumamoto on Saturday next week. Probably Australia is the total down underdog and Denmark will win the match without much trouble - but one of them has a name. Or rather two…
Hannah Mouncey named the well-groomed stroke player measuring 188 cm and knocks the needle into the bath scales past the 100 kilos plus a scat. The 30-year-old Australian boasts something as rare as having played on two national teams: one for men - and one for women!
Until 2015, HE was called Callum by first name and participated. at the European Championships in Spain in 2013. Since then, Callum has joined Hannah, and she has fought a tough fight to be accepted as a woman and to be selected for the Australian national team.
Klavs Bruun Jørgensen is definitely not thrilled:
- We have to win that match, but we also know that it may not be so much about handball. Instead, it will deal with the ethical and moral dilemma we are faced with when a man changes gender and suddenly steps into a women's scene with 110 kilos in the trunk. It's probably going to fill a lot.
Here, Callum Mouncey has come into human hands in a duel that is probably more appropriate. The picture comes from the 2013 World Cup in Spain, where Hungary's striker Szabolcs Zubai has a good grasp of the then Australian men's national team player. Photo: Javier Soriano / AFP Photo / Ritzau Scanpix
Anne Mette Hansen, Kathrine Heindahl, Stine Bodholt and the other Danes in the minefield thus have something to look for when Hannah Mouncey comes roaring with both height and pitch as an Australian road train. Something of a kangaroo grid needs to withstand the bar player as she gets into the middle block.
- We accept that now because it is Australia, but I think in the long run it will be a difficult thing if we suddenly experience a team of five transgender people. Then it may be that the nations that have spent a great deal of energy on getting to where they are today do not think it is fun, says the coach.
- It will be special, but it is as it is. However, it is still a struggle that I am convinced that we will probably manage, says Klavs Bruun Jørgensen.
He and the squad set off early Thursday morning on a 20-hour trip to Okinawa via Munich and Osaka. The squad has six days on the South Pacific island before the team will fly to Kumamoto on Thursday next week, where the World Cup will start two days later.
Thus, the national team has eight days to knock the women's jet lag and get them folded out after many hours in cramped airplane seats - all experience tells that athletes should spend a day a day. There is an exact eight hour time difference between Japan and Denmark.
Right in that context, Hannah Mouncey is somewhat better off switching Australian summer to Japanese World Cup time.
Hannah Mouncey provided that gas for a short period in Australian football. Here she is on the right in action for the Falcons in a duel with Anna Teague from The Cats. Photo: Kelly Defina / AFL Photos / Getty Images
The 30-year-old woman began her male-to-female transformation in 2015. Following a sex change operation and associated hormone therapy, she officially became a woman in May 2016, and her testosterone level dropped rapidly below the level of the International Olympic Committee, the IOC. set as a limit value.
However, the Australian Confederation would not give her 'comeback' to the national team due to an insurance issue as she had hoped to pull in the national suit as early as 2016. Only in April last year did Hannah Mouncey return as a women's national team player and joined last December to qualify Australia for this World Cup as she and the team finished number five at the Asian Championships.
Among other things. via 23 scores in six matches by the giant woman who has also tried his luck in Australian women's soccer and after two years of fighting was drafted and played some matches for the Darebin Falcons.
- But I am and will be a handball player, she explained to the Australian Players Voice.
- I was completely devastated and terrified of what was waiting for me. The thought of jumping out in front of my family and teammates was scary, but so was the thought of leaving the sport I love. Saying goodbye to handball would be saying goodbye to my sporting future and all the endless hours of hard work I've put into the sport, she explained.
Saturday, November 30 at 1 p.m. 12.30 Danish time she stands there. And she stands firm!
You might have heard about this person after participating in the Asian handball championship a year or so ago:
The 6’2″, 220-lb Transgender Dude Dominating Women’s Handball Championships
Standing at six-foot-two and weighing-in at 220 pounds, male-to-female transgender handballer Hannah Mouncey is dominating at the women’s Asian Championships...
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I wonder what they mean with "sex". Because if they mean "the sex marker you have on your birth certificate" this, along with the insistence on selfid, could be a disaster for women in Britain.
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It's all a tower of Babel.
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So, sprite is now selling diabetes and girldicks.
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Drink Sprite, chop your dick off, but give us your money first.
But The Coca-Cola Company, a giant monstrosity that literally fucking enslaves and murders native people around the world, really gives a fuck about the trials and tribulations of trannies.
Now give us your fucking money and drink the sugar water.
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i love how there is not a single trans flag in this video