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[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

More idiocy from everyone’s favorite shoelace-sucking moron.
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Greg and Shane wants to get their grubby hands on the transcript. Oh please Greg, do it. Waste more of your useless money on a transcript so that Nick can cover it for free.
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Love how they're the ones crying perjury when it's their prize pig under scrutiny.

 

[Hotfartz :)]

Good news everyone. I worked through my schedule with my Texas buddies I’m visiting that week and we’ll be able to make the trip to Texas Collection Con next Saturday. I’ll give you all an update of what it was like and all that jazz next week.

Also I had to let wholesome man with the gay pants know I’m coming to visit him. I was surprised how quickly he responded.
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No, whatever you do, don't bring anymore victims to Vic! He'll rape you all! Mega creep vibes! Not a good look!

 

[Aria]

More idiocy from everyone’s favorite shoelace-sucking moron.
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Greg and Shane wants to get their grubby hands on the transcript. Oh please Greg, do it. Waste more of your useless money on a transcript so that Nick can cover it for free.
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shane you're just wasting your time and money on something that nick can get for free.

 

[Bender]

Well obviously, that's a given. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive.

The point I'm trying to make is people who cry wolf deserve to be consumed by the pack.

Your point also wished rape or assault on people, which I can't get behind. Yeah, people who cry wolf will be ignored if something actually happens and I agree it's harmful in the long term, but if a legit rape or assault happens to someone who previously cried wolf I'd much rather their attacker gets locked up.

 

[diskboomer]

Love how they're the ones crying perjury when it's their prize pig under scrutiny.

They're always projecting!

 

[AcrylicShadow]

Did he commit perjury though? Has anybody actually looked into that supposed lawsuit he was involved in 22 years ago?

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

Your point also wished rape or assault on people, which I can't get behind. Yeah, people who cry wolf will be ignored if something actually happens and I agree it's harmful in the long term, but if a legit rape or assault happens to someone who previously cried wolf I'd much rather their attacker gets locked up.

Different strokes for different folks.

I have no sympathy for liars. Not a shred. As far as I'm concerned lying about a crime is equal in gravity to committing the crime in question.

I'm obviously not advocating to go commit bodily harm to liars. It isn't some crusade against falsehoods I'm advocating for, but if something does happen to them.....

I won't lose sleep over it.
They were willing to lie about it, but are they willing to live with the consequences of actually having endured it?

 

[P5Fever]

No, whatever you do, don't bring anymore victims to Vic! He'll rape you all! Mega creep vibes! Not a good look!

Look. I need to see those gay pants up close. They’re a national treasure. They must be documented!

 

[Bender]

Did he commit perjury though? Has anybody actually looked into that supposed lawsuit he was involved in 22 years ago?

Some company called Forefront Communications.

Docket for Mignogna v. Forefront Communicat, 4:97-cv-00289 - CourtListener.com

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I believe it's been discussed here in the past but nobody's bothered looking into it further.

AnOminous posts so fucking much I had to used the advanced search to find that post, even though it was only like 18 hours ago.

Nobody here's looked into it as far as I can tell, but there's your starting point if you wanna pay for the court documents yourself.

 

[Random Internet Person]

shane you're just wasting your time and money on something that nick can get for free.

It's all about the chop job for these guys.

More idiocy from everyone’s favorite shoelace-sucking moron.
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Greg and Shane wants to get their grubby hands on the transcript. Oh please Greg, do it. Waste more of your useless money on a transcript so that Nick can cover it for free.
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Love how they're the ones crying perjury when it's their prize pig under scrutiny.

Did he commit perjury though? Has anybody actually looked into that supposed lawsuit he was involved in 22 years ago?

What is this perjury they speak of? The GFM? Vic saying he sees people as friends on instinct?

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

Ron did the same exact shit they're whining about Vic doing in regards to his whole court fiasco.

And Ron has been to court MULTIPLE times in recent years.

If Vic forgot about that case I wouldn't be surprised. But Ron still dodged responsibility and still dances around admitting to being in court.

What is this perjury they speak of? The GFM? Vic saying he sees people as friends on instinct?

The fact that he's never been involved in a suit or whatever. Literally the same shit they claimed we were grasping at straws with when it came to Toye. The shit he still hasn't outright admitted he's lying to.

But there's a huge difference between the case with Vic and Ron's forays in court.

Vic's life would have gone mostly unchanged by the results of the copyright suit either way. From what we can tell (I don't have the docs so I'm shooting in the dark) it wasn't a situation that was imperative to handle. Someone pursued a copyright claim against him. At the end of the day, it's easy to forget being involved in something like that when it was in 97. And Vic can honestly say that he himself has never pursued anything in court. He was the defendant there.

Ron, on the other hand, put himself in the position he did by being an abusive cunt. And he had to go through with it multiple times because he was aggressive towards the judge and his exes. Yet he still can't even own up to what really happened there. He just says he changed and that it isn't relevant anymore.

If his divorce proceedings aren't relevant to Ron in this case, how is Vic having a copyright snafu relevant to this case?

 

[Moguro Fukuzou]

I think some people here are starting to fall into the same issue of being far too optimistic about chupp wanting to take some more time. It's best to keep expectations low lest people want a repeat of pages of boring depressed posting from people that thought it would be over quickly. Just something I thought people should keep in mind.

 

[Allanon]

Actually, I'd like to point something out to @Shane_Yes_That_One. You dumb motherfucker. you really do plan on going forward with that exceptional ass broken staircase plan? jesus christ even the don from greentext would ask you if you're exceptional.
Seriously. You're going to attack critical role. critical role. the group of voice acting nerds that raised 1 million dollars in a fucking day. that critical role.
Before you try to say the others will abandon him, don't bother. Laura is married to him, had his kid, and from everything i've seen their marriage is pretty solid. She's going to stand by him. The others like her and they like travis so they will stand by him, if for no other reason than show integrity.
But let me add the real nail on this coffin of an idea. Tiberius Stormwind. Don't remember the dudes name. But read up on him. and remember this; they were friends with him even after discovering his problems, only cutting it off at his insistence. They didn't just not say anything and kept trying to get him help, but they ultimately didn't cut him out despite the shit he did. and you think unsubstantiated claims ala Vic will work?
Bitch if you thought what vic has done with this lawsuit to the defendants is harsh, what critical role does will look like nothing short of genocide on you fuckers.
Does that mean i don't want you to though? no! do it groomer! I dare you to start shit with critical role! It'll be fucking hilarious that this is how you lot end up destitute, discredited, and ultimately unpersoned.
Or you could be smart for once in your cretinous, goblinoid life and let that dumbass plan die and just try to make your little gargle con some kind of successful and ride its tailwind until you fart yourself to death.

This is essentially what I said about Jennifer t-posing and trying to go for Bryce Papenbrook and David Vincent. It'd be similar to try to go after Crispin Freeman or Liam O'Brien. The behind the scenes reasons for attacking Vic may be personal jealousy and vendetta, but the whole movement attacking him is not because he's powerful and influential. It's because he isn't. He has a massively dedicated following...and basically no influence over any part of the anime industry.

 

[P5Fever]

I think some people here are starting to fall into the same issue of being far too optimistic about chupp wanting to take some more time. It's best to keep expectations low lest people want a repeat of pages of boring depressed posting from people that thought it would be over quickly. Just something I thought people should keep in mind.

I absolutely agree, Chump is a lazy boomer and I ain’t holding my breath for good news...but I’m still gonna laugh about some of what we heard so far. Even if it goes south it is what it is. Appeals are still happening. The entertainment however I have from today is still a win.

 

[GenericReviewerDraco]

I think some people here are starting to fall into the same issue of being far too optimistic about chupp wanting to take some more time. It's best to keep expectations low lest people want a repeat of pages of boring depressed posting from people that thought it would be over quickly. Just something I thought people should keep in mind.

Gonna agree with this. Just because Chupp was actually thinking about what was going on meant he's gonna reverse his rulings. He's gonna pretend to make the sanctions look reasonable, but scary enough to force Vic to appeal.

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

I think some people here are starting to fall into the same issue of being far too optimistic about chupp wanting to take some more time. It's best to keep expectations low lest people want a repeat of pages of boring depressed posting from people that thought it would be over quickly. Just something I thought people should keep in mind.

I'm fully expecting to be slapped down or a nothingburger coming out of this.

But it's fun to wonder just what it was that began to rock the boat and what this will mean for the future.

That being said, even if Chupp makes this a nothingburger now, the fact that he hesitated is on the record.
And the CoA will see that. And they will scrutinize it as well.

 

[Confused Doggo]

I think we don't have to worry, though. Shane is a goddamn coward. He's not capable of doing something on his own initiative, he can only follow orders.

And he can't even do THAT right, seeing as when he streamed with Nick, he had a chat guiding him on what to say, and they eventually said "stop. You are really bad at this."

 

[Steve Smyff]

People who lie about being raped and/or beaten deserve to be thrown in prison for the same amount of time as the people who they accused would've. Nothing more, nothing less.

IMHO the punishment for false accusations should be double the cost the accused would face.

- most alleged assaults are one person doing the assault.
the accusation has the entire government (cops and prosecutors) come down on the accused.

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

IMHO the punishment for false accusations should be double the cost the accused would face.

- most alleged assaults are one person doing the assault.
the accusation has the entire government (cops and prosecutors) come down on the accused.

Law doesn't stop people from breaking it.
But tangible consequence does.

I look at it the same way I look at munchies.

You're willing to put on the act of having six gorillion debilitating illnesses, you're willing to m-lk all the benefits of doing so, you love people's sympathy, but how far are you willing to go to keep up the lies?

Would you still enjoy it as much if you were actually suffering day in and day out?

Hypothetically, of course. I can't play god.
But i do think people who play with fire like that are inviting bad shit to happen to them.

 

[Allanon]

Gonna agree with this. Just because Chupp was actually thinking about what was going on meant he's gonna reverse his rulings. He's gonna pretend to make the sanctions look reasonable, but scary enough to force Vic to appeal.

I don't expect a reversal, though that would be hilarious. I just want to see the unredacted billing, and it sounds like we might get that. And the fact that Chupp might be suddenly taking a hard look at the defendants is hilarious.

In the end it doesn't matter. It can't get worse for Vic, because everything's getting appealed anyway. The 'worst' it can get is if one thing like TI goes through and we have to wait on everything else for a long distant appeal. On the bright side, though, we'd immediately get discovery opened up again, instead of waiting for appeal. And 0-17 would be ruined. There really is no loss, because we went into it braced for the worst, and it has already become 'not the worst'.