Shy Hard 2: Shy Harder

Well, she is married to a former loveshy. He could genuinely convince her to OK it.
Hey, anything's possible! But this guy just hasn't given us any indication that he has good communication skills or respect for other people's ideas and boundaries, so I figured I had to ask.

@mooooo , does your wife get to post intimate pictures of you in order to win - or "win" - arguments on the internet? How well do you think that would work? Could she post your CV?
 
I've been following this thread and I just don't get you, mooooo. What is your endgame? Didn't you pretend to be a mole or something like that? What do you hope to gain from all this if you don't want respect and acknowledgement from a forum you clearly think is full of a bunch of circlejerking mouthbreathers?

Humor my mouthbreathing here, since all the other kiwis seem entertained enough to cultivate you.
 
Hoo, boy. Bolding mine:
Oh, so you're agreeing that you place strawmen to attack. Other than that, that statement is an irrelevant insult, so nothing to address here. Same old, same old. In fact, you contradict yourself below by saying I keep coming back to say stuff, so clearly I do "use my mouth".

Dude, I'm being 110% serious here: have you ever been diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder? Because this is the sort of reply I would expect from someone on the spectrum. If you haven't, hey, food for thought.

The fact is, there has been no convincing argument that they aren't seen as "autonomous human beings". What I replied to was the attempt to show that they aren't seen as them, so my point (that you predictably missed) that people have expectations for other's behaviour even in normal situations in which people acknowledge others as fully autonomous needs to be directly addressed. I showed that them expecting behaviour was not sufficient to comprise a failure to recognise autonomy. Can't you actually make a good counter argument instead of childish insults and incoherent retarded ramblings? I'm getting a bit bored.

You trotted out your little "protip" about people's expectations of you in a society in response to @Chan the Wizard saying that love-shy men tend to view women like they view vending machines: goods/services go in, desired result (in this case, sex) comes out. That is objectification, which is pretty much the opposite of seeing someone as an autonomous human being. Furthermore, you equated the love-shy's expectation of sex from a woman on the same level of a passerby expecting a return greeting after he says "hello," which suggests to me that you have little to no concept of social/personal boundaries and how to respect them. Seriously, dude, ASD diagnosis, look into that.

And this is an example of why I think you're retarded. You see, it goes beyond mere differences in opinion, and has gotten to the stage where you make claims about factual information that can be objectively measured. In other words, you're objectively wrong about things, instead of just having a different viewpoint. For example, "while she's asleep". She wasn't asleep, she was reaching over to get something. "without her permission" she already told me I could post pictures of her there. She's just not too fussed on direct pictures of her face there. Notice I have avoided any such pictures of her face on the LS forum.

The thing about her being "nude" is laughable too. By that reasoning, everyone is nude because they would be if not for their clothes. The pic shows her shoulders. Plenty of dresses show more than that, but aren't deemed "nude". It doesn't matter if she was nude at the time unless I show parts of her that she would actually take offence to.

Next, I don't care about people's views about me here. If I did, I'd be like wandering pussy and ingratiate myself before you.
What I care about, what annoys me, is misinformation and stupidity.

"woman-haters" is your own inability to deal with nuance; hence you just smear the forum into a crude simplification. If they were women haters, they'd hate women just for being women. If that were so, then they'd hate all women. As you can see, the posters on the site actually got along with and respected Enginehead. They also accept and respect TheCounter, who is a lesbian. Ember was a poster who was liked well enough. Point is, it's not women they hate, but when women enter the site with an arrogant/condescending attitude. You'll probably just dismiss this bit of information because you're resistant to learning anything that disagrees with what you want to see.

"shore up your flaccid, impotent ego"
You could make that assumption. Acting as though your opinions and assumptions are truth is your prerogative here.
But lets take a moment and actually look at the situation in context, use our brain for a second.
In comes a woman/troll to the forum. She claims that we have problems with girls because we're all so bitter etc.
So then I act cocky and dismissive towards her. She's overjoyed, because she's found something to backup her view. "look at him!", she says. "This must be why you're alone! Because you act like this!". So I let her hold this position for a while. Then, I drop it on her that I'm actually one of the few guys there who has a girlfriend. The douchiest one there. All the nice, reasonable guys discussing things with her as though she's not a troll? Nope. So perhaps now you see my motivations. My revealing I had a girl basically just pissed all over her rhetoric. A picture rubs it in.

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Oh, so you're agreeing that you place strawmen to attack. Other than that, that statement is an irrelevant insult, so nothing to address here. Same old, same old. In fact, you contradict yourself below by saying I keep coming back to say stuff, so clearly I do "use my mouth".


The fact is, there has been no convincing argument that they aren't seen as "autonomous human beings". What I replied to was the attempt to show that they aren't seen as them, so my point (that you predictably missed) that people have expectations for other's behaviour even in normal situations in which people acknowledge others as fully autonomous needs to be directly addressed. I showed that them expecting behaviour was not sufficient to comprise a failure to recognise autonomy. Can't you actually make a good counter argument instead of childish insults and incoherent retarded ramblings? I'm getting a bit bored.



And this is an example of why I think you're retarded. You see, it goes beyond mere differences in opinion, and has gotten to the stage where you make claims about factual information that can be objectively measured. In other words, you're objectively wrong about things, instead of just having a different viewpoint. For example, "while she's asleep". She wasn't asleep, she was reaching over to get something. "without her permission" she already told me I could post pictures of her there. She's just not too fussed on direct pictures of her face there. Notice I have avoided any such pictures of her face on the LS forum.

The thing about her being "nude" is laughable too. By that reasoning, everyone is nude because they would be if not for their clothes. The pic shows her shoulders. Plenty of dresses show more than that, but aren't deemed "nude". It doesn't matter if she was nude at the time unless I show parts of her that she would actually take offence to.

Next, I don't care about people's views about me here. If I did, I'd be like wandering pussy and ingratiate myself before you.
What I care about, what annoys me, is misinformation and stupidity.

"woman-haters" is your own inability to deal with nuance; hence you just smear the forum into a crude simplification. If they were women haters, they'd hate women just for being women. If that were so, then they'd hate all women. As you can see, the posters on the site actually got along with and respected Enginehead. They also accept and respect TheCounter, who is a lesbian. Ember was a poster who was liked well enough. Point is, it's not women they hate, but when women enter the site with an arrogant/condescending attitude. You'll probably just dismiss this bit of information because you're resistant to learning anything that disagrees with what you want to see.

"shore up your flaccid, impotent ego"
You could make that assumption. Acting as though your opinions and assumptions are truth is your prerogative here.
But lets take a moment and actually look at the situation in context, use our brain for a second.
In comes a woman/troll to the forum. She claims that we have problems with girls because we're all so bitter etc.
So then I act cocky and dismissive towards her. She's overjoyed, because she's found something to backup her view. "look at him!", she says. "This must be why you're alone! Because you act like this!". So I let her hold this position for a while. Then, I drop it on her that I'm actually one of the few guys there who has a girlfriend. The douchiest one there. All the nice, reasonable guys discussing things with her as though she's not a troll? Nope. So perhaps now you see my motivations. My revealing I had a girl basically just pissed all over her rhetoric. A picture rubs it in.

Fonduman, I know you're used to the Loveshy forum, where everyone's constantly at each other's throats, and it's "crazy nig" this and "liberal idiot" that, but here at the Kiwi Farms, we have a little something called "common courtesy". Unless you're such a tremendous fuck-up that you've earned a thread here, we're civil to each other here. No Thunderdome here.
Oh, but don't worry, our forums do have some things in common. Like the majority of the users there, we also consider Marjan/Dante to be an idiot with no understanding of how...anything works.
 
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Fonduman, I know you're used to the Loveshy forum, where everyone's constantly at each other's throats, and it's "crazy nig" this and "liberal idiot" that, but here at the Kiwi Farms, we have a little something called "common courtesy". Unless you're such a tremendous fuck-up that you've earned a thread here, we're civil to each other here. No Thunderdome here.
Oh, but don't worry, our forums do have some things in common. Like the majority of the users there, we also consider Marjan/Dante to be an idiot with no understanding of how...anything works.

Precisely. You can't be taken seriously if you're acting like a jackass. If you want to prove that we the LS/incel crowd aren't entitled, neckbearded, trilby wearing, whiny assholes, let's be civil and excellent to one another and debate like grown-ups.
 
@mooooo , while it's nice to know that Enginehead is indeed a real person and not some elaborate sockpuppet (yes, we used to discuss this in chat sometimes) and you finally got the girl, I don't think you've changed much. You still come off as pretentious and with a whole lot of other issues.

I remember when you and the other STEM dickheads made fun of me when I made the announcement that I finally got a job washing dishes and that I was going to move to the U.S. mainland to do that. Yet you guys seem to be content with being NEETs who bitch about how you're not getting the teaching or research jobs that you guys felt entitled to when you were studying in your respective fields. Or how Western Women are all bitches who won't give you guys a chance. I think I'm beginning to see a pattern.

#Humility
 
"She's not like other girls! Also we have some things in common" Come on man. You really shouldn't need to spend several paragraphs justifying your marriage to your weird internet forum friends.
From reading his other comments, I don't get a bad impression from him. I don't think he's a bad guy. But it's so strange to read a post that's more or less a laundry list of things a woman isn't, just to appeal to his friends. If one of my friends announced her impending marriage and introduced her fiance with "well, he doesn't watch sports and he doesn't leave the toilet seat up or drink too much beer" I would have a lot of questions.
 
"She's not like other girls! Also we have some things in common" Come on man. You really shouldn't need to spend several paragraphs justifying your marriage to your weird internet forum friends.
From reading his other comments, I don't get a bad impression from him. I don't think he's a bad guy. But it's so strange to read a post that's more or less a laundry list of things a woman isn't, just to appeal to his friends. If one of my friends announced her impending marriage and introduced her fiance with "well, he doesn't watch sports and he doesn't leave the toilet seat up or drink too much beer" I would have a lot of questions.

Based on that forum's culture, I'm pretty sure the men there don't want to hear a story about some spoiled rotten American bitch. Methinks tells me that they've been through enough.

is he though?
Let's put it this way, would you rather hear a happy story about an incel finally getting a girlfriend? Or hear another sob story about an incel complaning about an American or UK woman rejecting him and then fucking four bad boy alphas pterodactyl style?
 
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Based on that forum's culture, I'm pretty sure the men there don't want to hear a story about some spoiled rotten American bitch. Methinks tells me that they've been through enough.

Those men think they know women, but they really, really don't.

Let's put it this way, would you rather hear a happy story about an incel finally getting a girlfriend? Or hear another sob story about an incel complaning about an American or UK woman rejecting him and then fucking four bad boy alphas pterodactyl style?

How about a story where a Loveshy gets some self-awareness and realises that maybe it's his attitude toward women that's the problem?
 
Those men think they know women, but they really, really don't.



How about a story where a Loveshy gets some self-awareness and realises that maybe it's his attitude toward women that's the problem?

According to them, we're blue pilled, normfags, SJWs, that let women continue bad behavior which will divide and weaken our country further and make the Russian-Iran-North Korean alliance even stronger and destroy all our freedoms! Wake up already!
 
Oh my goodness that whole site reminds me of that really depressing documentary on PBS called "Seeking Asian Female". :c

Y'all forgive me if it's already been posted.

Why the fuck is Manga Entertainment commenting on this video?!
 
Let's put it this way, would you rather hear a happy story about an incel finally getting a girlfriend? Or hear another sob story about an incel complaning about an American or UK woman rejecting him and then fucking four bad boy alphas pterodactyl style?


he's obviously not happy because he still posts there and feels the need to show off for them with his whole "mole" plan
 
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