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Alright, I'm switching to Sierra Mist.
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Hey, they forgot to use the POC Pride flag. What kind of rainbow doesn't have brown in it?
Anyway, these commercials are going to look so stupid years from now. Hopefully. My optimism is fading.
Gone_Fission
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Giving any ground to the alphabet people whatsoever has proven to be a mistake. The slippery slope is 100% real, and whackjob evangelicals turned out to be right about the consequences of normalizing LGBT shit. We literally have the media fawning over child drag queens stripping at gay bars, the government pushing chemical castration of children, and outlets like Teen Vogue publishing instruction manuals on anal sex. Gay rights was a mistake, and third worlders and eastern European are right to view the west a failing degenerate society.
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I don't know who this troon is but he thinks Posie Parker is Parker Posie and it's simultaneously hilarious and disturbing.
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I'm inclined to disagree for the most part. I don't think the LGB are the problem, for the most part the usual gays you'll see are just regular people living their lives. You can be gay and not flamboyant or intrusive on other people. I'd wager most gays just want to live their life happily and fulfilled with a same sex spouse. Ultimately I don't see a problem with that. With gay being illegal or punishable by death across the world until fairly recently, it's understandable that we'll end up with angry cockroach motherfuckers that are snappy about gay issues. The gays have been through enough shit in their collective lifetime and have been clawing their way out of the pit and trying their damnedest to be reasonable while doing it.
TQ+ on the other hand? Well, we already know that the T is astroturfed garbage that only really serves men. If you don't see the Transactivists with their suspicious amounts of funding and massive dominance of TiMs then you should do some more searching. There are good Ts out there for sure, but the vocal minority AND the vocal majority are both insufferable. The real ones who don't want to expose their mansacks to young girls or whatever the fuck Yaniv wants to do are few and far between mostly because they want nothing to do with the politicization of their identity. Be it medical, mental or whatever I do believe some very chill transsexuals exist that just want to blend in and exist quietly. The current day transGENDER movement is big pharma astroturfed garbage being pushed to get incels laid and make pharma investors a shitton of money. Horse piss pills on the rise, buy now before the inevitable crash.
Q is a stupid mess as well. I feel Q is mostly comprised of tumblr teens or people desperate to have a personality so they pretend they're *~* UwU so queer *~* when really they're just a bog standard probably white middle class american kid, and straight at that. Q is a scapegoat for not having any kind of interesting features, or being so disillusioned with your personal life you make up a bunch of weird totally quirky and real things up about yourself and play that up to seem appealing.
It's also worth noting that the founding documents for queer theory also contained a bunch of mentions of things like "boy lovers" and things to do with lowering the age of consent and such. Not a great look for your movement when even your founding documents have pedos worming into them. This video, which seems to only exist on radfem accounts (figures, selection bias, but here's the full talk in its entirety where the pedo stuff comes up at 1:51:00) There's also a mumsnet thread about this issue with those same links.
In short: LGB? Fine, they're generally alright in my experience and for the most part just want to live their lives. TQ+? An absolute fucking mess being abused by corporations, mostly big pharma and for political agendas or to push men's rights (cause let's be real, very few activists give any kind of fuck about TiFs lol). The good, not insane Ts are generally hiding and don't want to get involved.
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Dat ratio.That article is wrong about the surgery Mouncey has said he has no intention of having surgery, and is less than open about his regiment of hormones. The video below is just a long whinge but he is emphatic about not having surgery.
Should transgender athlete Hannah Mouncey be allowed to play in the AFLW? | 60 Minutes Australia
At six foot two (1.87 metres), weighing a hundred kilos and blessed with a mighty kicking boot, Hannah Mouncey should have been a shoo-in to play at the elit...www.youtube.com
Also he's a proud lesbian, and seems concerned that anyone might think he's gay.
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The real problem is the faggots. All troons are faggots. How long until the next round of gas chambers?
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If you download any dating app that women are included in and set your preferences to women only, about half of your matches will be hulking troons who make zero effort to appear to be women aside from maybe a dress, clownish makeup, and long colorful hair.
So, yeah, prep the chambers.
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'How do I go back to the Debbie I was?'
By Hannah Barnes and Deborah Cohen
BBC Newsnight
Image caption: Debbie is now being seen at one of the NHS's gender-identity clinics
"This was a mistake that should never have happened… how do I go back to being the Debbie that I was?"
Debbie was born a girl - assigned female at birth - and lived most of her life this way.
But almost two decades ago, aged 44, she sought help to transition from a woman to a man.
17 years on testosterone is a hellava drug apparently. Now looks like a bloke in drag.
By Hannah Barnes and Deborah Cohen
BBC Newsnight
Image caption: Debbie is now being seen at one of the NHS's gender-identity clinics
"This was a mistake that should never have happened… how do I go back to being the Debbie that I was?"
Debbie was born a girl - assigned female at birth - and lived most of her life this way.
But almost two decades ago, aged 44, she sought help to transition from a woman to a man.
Debbie underwent a full female-to-male surgical transition, which included having a phalloplasty - where a penis was constructed from skin on her forearm.
She changed her name to Lee and spent 17 years on testosterone - masculinising hormones that can lead to changes such as more facial hair and more muscle developing.
She believed transitioning would allow her to "become accepted in the world". But now, aged 61, she's detransitioning back to the gender she was assigned at birth.
Many who transition to a gender different from the one they were assigned at birth will live happy lives. But BBC News has heard from others who, like Debbie, have reversed the process.
"I was what would be considered a pretty gender-nonconforming child," said Thain, now 40.
"And then there was the fact I was attracted to girls… and I just didn't know anybody who was lesbian."
Image caption: Thain started to transition in her 20s but decided to stop a couple of years later
Once in her teens, Thain said the growing discomfort she had felt around her identity had convinced her she was transgender.
At 26, Thain sought help from the NHS and was prescribed testosterone. But after two years, she decided to stop taking the hormones and detransition.
"It wasn't until I discovered a community who were affirming to gender nonconforming people, which is the radical feminist community, that I really made the decision to stop," Thain told BBC News.
Charlie Evans, 28, also struggled with her gender identity from a young age. At 15, she started to identify as a boy, shaving her head, binding her breasts and using male pronouns.
She never took testosterone and after several years, went back to identifying as a woman.
She has since set up a support network for detransitioners and said she had been contacted by about 300 people, including some who had surgically transitioned. She admitted she could not verify all their stories.
"Most of us are same-sex attracted," she told BBC News. "Most of us identify as either lesbian or bisexual and a lot of us are autistic."
Charlie said many of these women felt at the time they had sought treatment, "they were not in a state that they were able to give consent [to medically transition] because they felt so unwell with eating disorders or depression".
Image caption: Charlie said she was surprised how many people had reached out to her support network for detransitioners
Lui Asquith, from Mermaids, which supports transgender and gender-diverse young people, warned such experiences should not be used to imply the system was lacking rigour or people were being dealt with in a way that "suggests they're being pressured or made into being trans".
"That's incorrect," they said. "You can't make someone be trans."
There is no official data for the number of people who detransition. Some studies have suggested 2%, while others suggest lower. But experts have told BBC News the studies are flawed.
Psychotherapist James Caspian has worked with transgender adults for more than a decade. More recently, he's been contacted by dozens of detransitioners.
"This whole area of transgender medicine is very under researched," he said. But he has spotted certain common themes among the detransitioners he has spoken to.
"Quite a lot of them seem to have had a very negative experience of being female in a female body - sexual harassment, even abuse," he said.
Debbie believes she transitioned as a way of dealing with the sexual abuse she endured as a child.
"I thought I was going to be on a journey to becoming a different person... I'd morph into someone else and leave that traumatised woman completely behind," she said.
But through counselling, she added, it had become apparent "the transition was a way of trying to escape".
Image caption: Debbie as a young woman and then after her transition, as Lee
Detransitioning is a controversial topic. Christopher Inglefield, who specialises in transgender surgery, explained why parts of the trans community might be "very nervous" about detransitioning becoming a prominent story.
"Any reversal of that transition starts to make society question the whole transition process in the first place," he said.
And this could lead to people questioning the funding and support for much needed gender services.
"What's really important is to ensure that this experience [of detransitioning] isn't used to pressure other people," said Lui Asquith, from Mermaids.
"It shouldn't be used to tell those who are trans, those that are gender diverse, that they are wrong or different. It's about creating a system that makes everybody feel validated."
The Gender Identity Development Service (Gids) is the only NHS clinic in England that treats under-18s questioning their gender identity.
Children can be offered puberty-blocker drugs, which work on the brain to stop the eventual release of oestrogen or testosterone
Meanwhile, adults can begin transitioning through taking cross-sex hormones.
NHS England said adult patients were required to live for at least a year in their desired gender before they became eligible for surgery.
The Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust, which runs Gids, said its evidence suggested detransition was "very rare" and it was important not to equate all detransitions with regret.
The trust - which also runs the adult Gender Identity Clinic (GIC) - said those pursuing physical interventions to transition and adults wishing to detransition were offered "psycho-social support" throughout.
But two former Gids clinicians are publicly raising concerns about the support available to this vulnerable group, for the first time.
Anna Hutchinson, part of Gids' senior team from 2013-17, said when patients sought help from professionals, they had expectations about the outcome they wanted.
"Many of them are very clear that they want the medical intervention," she said.
"The people for whom that pathway hasn't worked, in retrospect, will say that what they wished they had was therapy.
"So we've got a bit of a dilemma where perhaps what some of this patient group need may not be what they want at this time."
Detransitioners were a "particularly isolated group of people", she said.
"They're having to self-organise to find help and seek treatment."
Psychotherapist Anastassis Spiliadis, who left Gids last month after four years, said he was worried there was not always a proper assessment of an individual's background.
A Gids assessment "usually comprises of three to six appointments", according to its website.
"I know clinicians who are really thoughtful and really cautious in their approach," Mr Spiliadis said. "But I worry how much actually could be explored by clinicians who believe in a three-session assessment model."
Gids said its clinicians "work thoughtfully on an individual, case-by-case basis".
Mr Spiliadis, who also works privately, said social isolation, depression and anxiety were common among the detransitioners he was treating - some of whom had been seen at Gids - and some had been diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder.
"They used to make sense of all these difficulties through the gendered kind of lens," he said.
The Tavistock and Portman Trust said it expected private clinicians "to liaise with relevant NHS services who may have supported them in the past" to best help each young person.
"All patients with gender dysphoria have extensive access to regular psychotherapy and counselling support," an NHS England official said.
She changed her name to Lee and spent 17 years on testosterone - masculinising hormones that can lead to changes such as more facial hair and more muscle developing.
She believed transitioning would allow her to "become accepted in the world". But now, aged 61, she's detransitioning back to the gender she was assigned at birth.
- Puberty-blockers study under investigation
- Transgender teen care 'needs regulation'
- Trans and a triplet: Coming out made us closer
Many who transition to a gender different from the one they were assigned at birth will live happy lives. But BBC News has heard from others who, like Debbie, have reversed the process.
"I was what would be considered a pretty gender-nonconforming child," said Thain, now 40.
"And then there was the fact I was attracted to girls… and I just didn't know anybody who was lesbian."
Image caption: Thain started to transition in her 20s but decided to stop a couple of years later
Once in her teens, Thain said the growing discomfort she had felt around her identity had convinced her she was transgender.
At 26, Thain sought help from the NHS and was prescribed testosterone. But after two years, she decided to stop taking the hormones and detransition.
"It wasn't until I discovered a community who were affirming to gender nonconforming people, which is the radical feminist community, that I really made the decision to stop," Thain told BBC News.
Charlie Evans, 28, also struggled with her gender identity from a young age. At 15, she started to identify as a boy, shaving her head, binding her breasts and using male pronouns.
She never took testosterone and after several years, went back to identifying as a woman.
She has since set up a support network for detransitioners and said she had been contacted by about 300 people, including some who had surgically transitioned. She admitted she could not verify all their stories.
"Most of us are same-sex attracted," she told BBC News. "Most of us identify as either lesbian or bisexual and a lot of us are autistic."
Charlie said many of these women felt at the time they had sought treatment, "they were not in a state that they were able to give consent [to medically transition] because they felt so unwell with eating disorders or depression".
Image caption: Charlie said she was surprised how many people had reached out to her support network for detransitioners
Lui Asquith, from Mermaids, which supports transgender and gender-diverse young people, warned such experiences should not be used to imply the system was lacking rigour or people were being dealt with in a way that "suggests they're being pressured or made into being trans".
"That's incorrect," they said. "You can't make someone be trans."
There is no official data for the number of people who detransition. Some studies have suggested 2%, while others suggest lower. But experts have told BBC News the studies are flawed.
Psychotherapist James Caspian has worked with transgender adults for more than a decade. More recently, he's been contacted by dozens of detransitioners.
"This whole area of transgender medicine is very under researched," he said. But he has spotted certain common themes among the detransitioners he has spoken to.
"Quite a lot of them seem to have had a very negative experience of being female in a female body - sexual harassment, even abuse," he said.
Debbie believes she transitioned as a way of dealing with the sexual abuse she endured as a child.
"I thought I was going to be on a journey to becoming a different person... I'd morph into someone else and leave that traumatised woman completely behind," she said.
But through counselling, she added, it had become apparent "the transition was a way of trying to escape".
Image caption: Debbie as a young woman and then after her transition, as Lee
Detransitioning is a controversial topic. Christopher Inglefield, who specialises in transgender surgery, explained why parts of the trans community might be "very nervous" about detransitioning becoming a prominent story.
"Any reversal of that transition starts to make society question the whole transition process in the first place," he said.
And this could lead to people questioning the funding and support for much needed gender services.
"What's really important is to ensure that this experience [of detransitioning] isn't used to pressure other people," said Lui Asquith, from Mermaids.
"It shouldn't be used to tell those who are trans, those that are gender diverse, that they are wrong or different. It's about creating a system that makes everybody feel validated."
The Gender Identity Development Service (Gids) is the only NHS clinic in England that treats under-18s questioning their gender identity.
Children can be offered puberty-blocker drugs, which work on the brain to stop the eventual release of oestrogen or testosterone
Meanwhile, adults can begin transitioning through taking cross-sex hormones.
NHS England said adult patients were required to live for at least a year in their desired gender before they became eligible for surgery.
The Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust, which runs Gids, said its evidence suggested detransition was "very rare" and it was important not to equate all detransitions with regret.
The trust - which also runs the adult Gender Identity Clinic (GIC) - said those pursuing physical interventions to transition and adults wishing to detransition were offered "psycho-social support" throughout.
But two former Gids clinicians are publicly raising concerns about the support available to this vulnerable group, for the first time.
Anna Hutchinson, part of Gids' senior team from 2013-17, said when patients sought help from professionals, they had expectations about the outcome they wanted.
"Many of them are very clear that they want the medical intervention," she said.
"The people for whom that pathway hasn't worked, in retrospect, will say that what they wished they had was therapy.
"So we've got a bit of a dilemma where perhaps what some of this patient group need may not be what they want at this time."
Detransitioners were a "particularly isolated group of people", she said.
"They're having to self-organise to find help and seek treatment."
Psychotherapist Anastassis Spiliadis, who left Gids last month after four years, said he was worried there was not always a proper assessment of an individual's background.
A Gids assessment "usually comprises of three to six appointments", according to its website.
"I know clinicians who are really thoughtful and really cautious in their approach," Mr Spiliadis said. "But I worry how much actually could be explored by clinicians who believe in a three-session assessment model."
Gids said its clinicians "work thoughtfully on an individual, case-by-case basis".
Mr Spiliadis, who also works privately, said social isolation, depression and anxiety were common among the detransitioners he was treating - some of whom had been seen at Gids - and some had been diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder.
"They used to make sense of all these difficulties through the gendered kind of lens," he said.
The Tavistock and Portman Trust said it expected private clinicians "to liaise with relevant NHS services who may have supported them in the past" to best help each young person.
"All patients with gender dysphoria have extensive access to regular psychotherapy and counselling support," an NHS England official said.
17 years on testosterone is a hellava drug apparently. Now looks like a bloke in drag.
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Mermaids quacks keep telling parents that their kids will kill themselves if you don't follow their wish, and now they're afraid people might get pressured?
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'How do I go back to the Debbie I was?'
By Hannah Barnes and Deborah Cohen
BBC Newsnight
Image caption: Debbie is now being seen at one of the NHS's gender-identity clinics
"This was a mistake that should never have happened… how do I go back to being the Debbie that I was?"
Debbie was born a girl - assigned female at birth - and lived most of her life this way.
But almost two decades ago, aged 44, she sought help to transition from a woman to a man.
Debbie underwent a full female-to-male surgical transition, which included having a phalloplasty - where a penis was constructed from skin on her forearm.
She changed her name to Lee and spent 17 years on testosterone - masculinising hormones that can lead to changes such as more facial hair and more muscle developing.
She believed transitioning would allow her to "become accepted in the world". But now, aged 61, she's detransitioning back to the gender she was assigned at birth.
The number of people openly questioning their gender identity has increased rapidly, with demand for NHS specialist gender-identity services in England - for both children and adults - at an all-time high.
- Puberty-blockers study under investigation
- Transgender teen care 'needs regulation'
- Trans and a triplet: Coming out made us closer
Many who transition to a gender different from the one they were assigned at birth will live happy lives. But BBC News has heard from others who, like Debbie, have reversed the process.
"I was what would be considered a pretty gender-nonconforming child," said Thain, now 40.
"And then there was the fact I was attracted to girls… and I just didn't know anybody who was lesbian."
Image caption: Thain started to transition in her 20s but decided to stop a couple of years later
Once in her teens, Thain said the growing discomfort she had felt around her identity had convinced her she was transgender.
At 26, Thain sought help from the NHS and was prescribed testosterone. But after two years, she decided to stop taking the hormones and detransition.
"It wasn't until I discovered a community who were affirming to gender nonconforming people, which is the radical feminist community, that I really made the decision to stop," Thain told BBC News.
Charlie Evans, 28, also struggled with her gender identity from a young age. At 15, she started to identify as a boy, shaving her head, binding her breasts and using male pronouns.
She never took testosterone and after several years, went back to identifying as a woman.
She has since set up a support network for detransitioners and said she had been contacted by about 300 people, including some who had surgically transitioned. She admitted she could not verify all their stories.
"Most of us are same-sex attracted," she told BBC News. "Most of us identify as either lesbian or bisexual and a lot of us are autistic."
Charlie said many of these women felt at the time they had sought treatment, "they were not in a state that they were able to give consent [to medically transition] because they felt so unwell with eating disorders or depression".
Image caption: Charlie said she was surprised how many people had reached out to her support network for detransitioners
Lui Asquith, from Mermaids, which supports transgender and gender-diverse young people, warned such experiences should not be used to imply the system was lacking rigour or people were being dealt with in a way that "suggests they're being pressured or made into being trans".
"That's incorrect," they said. "You can't make someone be trans."
There is no official data for the number of people who detransition. Some studies have suggested 2%, while others suggest lower. But experts have told BBC News the studies are flawed.
Psychotherapist James Caspian has worked with transgender adults for more than a decade. More recently, he's been contacted by dozens of detransitioners.
"This whole area of transgender medicine is very under researched," he said. But he has spotted certain common themes among the detransitioners he has spoken to.
"Quite a lot of them seem to have had a very negative experience of being female in a female body - sexual harassment, even abuse," he said.
Debbie believes she transitioned as a way of dealing with the sexual abuse she endured as a child.
"I thought I was going to be on a journey to becoming a different person... I'd morph into someone else and leave that traumatised woman completely behind," she said.
But through counselling, she added, it had become apparent "the transition was a way of trying to escape".
Image caption: Debbie as a young woman and then after her transition, as Lee
Detransitioning is a controversial topic. Christopher Inglefield, who specialises in transgender surgery, explained why parts of the trans community might be "very nervous" about detransitioning becoming a prominent story.
"Any reversal of that transition starts to make society question the whole transition process in the first place," he said.
And this could lead to people questioning the funding and support for much needed gender services.
"What's really important is to ensure that this experience [of detransitioning] isn't used to pressure other people," said Lui Asquith, from Mermaids.
"It shouldn't be used to tell those who are trans, those that are gender diverse, that they are wrong or different. It's about creating a system that makes everybody feel validated."
The Gender Identity Development Service (Gids) is the only NHS clinic in England that treats under-18s questioning their gender identity.
Children can be offered puberty-blocker drugs, which work on the brain to stop the eventual release of oestrogen or testosterone
Meanwhile, adults can begin transitioning through taking cross-sex hormones.
NHS England said adult patients were required to live for at least a year in their desired gender before they became eligible for surgery.
The Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust, which runs Gids, said its evidence suggested detransition was "very rare" and it was important not to equate all detransitions with regret.
The trust - which also runs the adult Gender Identity Clinic (GIC) - said those pursuing physical interventions to transition and adults wishing to detransition were offered "psycho-social support" throughout.
But two former Gids clinicians are publicly raising concerns about the support available to this vulnerable group, for the first time.
Anna Hutchinson, part of Gids' senior team from 2013-17, said when patients sought help from professionals, they had expectations about the outcome they wanted.
"Many of them are very clear that they want the medical intervention," she said.
"The people for whom that pathway hasn't worked, in retrospect, will say that what they wished they had was therapy.
"So we've got a bit of a dilemma where perhaps what some of this patient group need may not be what they want at this time."
Detransitioners were a "particularly isolated group of people", she said.
"They're having to self-organise to find help and seek treatment."
Psychotherapist Anastassis Spiliadis, who left Gids last month after four years, said he was worried there was not always a proper assessment of an individual's background.
A Gids assessment "usually comprises of three to six appointments", according to its website.
"I know clinicians who are really thoughtful and really cautious in their approach," Mr Spiliadis said. "But I worry how much actually could be explored by clinicians who believe in a three-session assessment model."
Gids said its clinicians "work thoughtfully on an individual, case-by-case basis".
Mr Spiliadis, who also works privately, said social isolation, depression and anxiety were common among the detransitioners he was treating - some of whom had been seen at Gids - and some had been diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder.
"They used to make sense of all these difficulties through the gendered kind of lens," he said.
The Tavistock and Portman Trust said it expected private clinicians "to liaise with relevant NHS services who may have supported them in the past" to best help each young person.
"All patients with gender dysphoria have extensive access to regular psychotherapy and counselling support," an NHS England official said.
17 years on testosterone is a hellava drug apparently. Now looks like a bloke in drag.
More about Debbie here:
'Turning into a man was the greatest mistake - I'm still Debbie'
Lee Harries wasn't transgender - but instead was a woman suffering with horrific complex PTSD, after years of sexual abuse.
It's a sad story.
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^Why does it always seem to be FtMs that regret transitioning and not MtFs?
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Because straight TIMs are fetishists and can just escalate to keep the dopamine flowing and the coom cooming. And gay TIMs are generally completely dysfunctional sex workers who are so flamboyant nobody could tell if they detransed because they’re perceived as a flaming gay black guy regardless.
TIFs are usually just non-NT, depressed, traumatized, gay, etc. There’s really nothing they can do to keep the good feels coming as they age and the world loses interest. The only ones who stay happy are the ones who have made their career out of it. You find that more with TIMs but the TIFs like Strangio or the few FTMs who get by in porn seem less likely to desist.
But the average molested autistic teenage girl who gets pushed by the cult into hacking off her boobs just ends up fat, stupider by 10 IQ points, in ever-worsening health, and ignored after she follows cult instructions. TIMs like slender underage TIFs with boobs, not fat mutilated weirdos, and TIMs run the cult. No use whatsoever for sad fat mutilated adult TIFs questioning why all their problems weren’t solved and why they have so many new ones.
TIFs are usually just non-NT, depressed, traumatized, gay, etc. There’s really nothing they can do to keep the good feels coming as they age and the world loses interest. The only ones who stay happy are the ones who have made their career out of it. You find that more with TIMs but the TIFs like Strangio or the few FTMs who get by in porn seem less likely to desist.
But the average molested autistic teenage girl who gets pushed by the cult into hacking off her boobs just ends up fat, stupider by 10 IQ points, in ever-worsening health, and ignored after she follows cult instructions. TIMs like slender underage TIFs with boobs, not fat mutilated weirdos, and TIMs run the cult. No use whatsoever for sad fat mutilated adult TIFs questioning why all their problems weren’t solved and why they have so many new ones.
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This shit right here is very important. young confused kids are either allowed to be gay or pressured into transitioning seems capriciously dependent on whatever political pandering is common at that time.
I'm friends with a butch lesbian in her late 40s. Fits every stereotype you're thinking, and she'll tell you the struggle of coming out as a teen in the 80s. But she'll also tell you that she sees a lot of modern teenage girls who are clearly butch lesbians the same exact way she was, wearing boy clothes and short hair and the like, and she sees a ton of pressure in these social circles on those girls going "no you're gender non-conforming, you're trans". And while she faced plenty of homophobia growing up of course, she also feels fortunate that she grew up in a time when she didn't have to face that progressive pressure because - in her words - at least the bigots in her youth didn't pretend to be on her side to get under her guard and manipulate her.
I've never seen more transparent evidence that the trans movement fetishizes the same shallow gender roles that all their progressive allies supposedly denounce. When I was a kid the message was if you're a boy who plays with dolls it's okay because toys don't define your identity. Now a confused girl puts on a pair of boy's Levi's and suddenly we have to send her to the troon reeducation camp.
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I will have to say I find this “I didn’t know anyone lesbian” thing so wierd. Not with older people, with them it makes enough sense, but young lesbians say to same thing too so often. You grew up with internet and social media, it’s extremely easy to find homosexual contacts and content even if you didn’t want to. Homophobia isn’t cool any more and never targeted lesbians that heavily anyway. So why is lesbianism such crisis thing so often for these girls? And why are so lesbian role models is their answer?
I’m bi, I didn’t have any bi role models and never felt I need that eather. When I was a teen and figuring my sexuality out was confused and all that stuff of course but that was kinda it. Soon as I figured out I was interested into boys and girls, and bringing it up outside of dating was not great idea, I was fine. What I have talked with homosexual men, it was pretty much same for them too. Figuring out they were into men and how to go about coming out where the biggest issues. They didn’t feel much need for homosexual role models, quite frankly good gay porn was bigger deal. Seeing a cool gay was kind kinda neet but not much more. Why is this so different with lesbians?
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That's really what it boils down too. They've made this into a cult and like a cult it's so malicious and devious but only those not taken in can see that. The ones inside the cult don't- they feel it's safe, because the world outside is hard but in the end the cult is far more dangerous. Instead of helping they're just trying to get more people to join, to spread the message.
Troonism is basically a twisted Multi-Level Marketing Scheme where only a select few benefit and everyone else tries, suffers, but keeps thinking if they work a little harder they'll make it too.
Gays on the internet tend to be crazy. Lesbians especially can get absolutely ballistic when you find groups of them online. It's not so much that they don't know anyone whose a lesbian so much that the ones they find tend to not be nice people. The don't want end up sucked into the negativity, forced to conform to the online lesbian persona, or they run into the absolute tsunami of MTF troons who're immediately down their throats for being transphobic for not wanting to suck girl dick. Normal lesbians don't tend to hang out online or you wouldn't know because they'll just frequent places devoted to their hobbies and interests, not spend all their time espousing their sexuality.
They want a normal person who just happens to be a lesbian as a role model because it gives them a vague idea of a plan, how to live their life and actually be happy. That sort of thing. Not having someone who can provide a rough draft and only finding insanity when you go looking for online resources can be polarizing. They get this idea that 'being a man who likes women' would be easier.
I wrote a comment about this before but it's probably lost in my history. Generally it's because
1. testosterone negatively effects females much more than Estrogen effects males. They're still female, the same as a MTF is a man, which means when those negative effects start kicking in suddenly the idea of being a man isn't so appealing. You want to watch a woman go from happy and healthy to absolutely soul crushingly depressed? hair loss. Which will usually be triggered by testosterone. The idea of being male is appealing right up until the changes start. Just look at Milo Stuart, although she was certainly a trender imo- her feelings and reaction are exactly what happens to a lot of women who start on the path of transition. Start seeing effects, ruin yourself, realize what you've done, panic, stop.
2. Because females tend to having a nesting instinct. Women have the capacity to be mothers. It's not something you can just turn off, no matter what you do- it's literally written into the DNA of a female. Even in people who don't want children they still develop this desire to settle down, have stability, have comfort, have a home, etc. These wants become more pronounced as you age.
and 3. A lot of FTM trans people tend to have psychological/social issues that spur the start of their transition. Mental Illness, sexual abuse, autism, their brother was favorited over them, terrible parents / home life. That they were unable to find a treatment for or a way to alleviate it. They get this idea that they have to strictly conform to some made up concept of womanhood and thus see the idea of switching sexes as a way to relieve the pressure- when in reality it's often because they just generally feel like outsiders in life because there's something about them that other people can pick up as not normal and they themselves are just aware enough to notice. Or they have family that doesn't have a grasp of what they're struggling with. Etc. When transitioning doesn't fix their issues and then coupled with point number one & two suddenly their experiencing massive cognitive dissonance- I am still a woman after all, this was a mistake.
Finally, anecdotally, I've seen quite a few FTM who ceased transition because they left their tiny home town, started to live outside the internet, and met a partner. Literally the biggest cliche I've even seen but having love, acceptance, and getting away from everything you know gives them a perspective that says you don't need to imitate the other sex to be happy, being a female whose not peak 1950s's housewife is totally fine.
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- Jun 9, 2018
LMAO, now the SJW trans activists are using slashes to avoid having to spell out "Kiwi Farms" on Twitter:
Bitches, I know you come over here to lurk. We're like your secret porn stash that you can't stop yourself from looking at. Stop being hypocrites about it. Admit you lurk at Kiwi Farms. Spell the name of the site fully and openly instead of using slashes like a coward.
love to exist in the public consciousness as a loose collection of traumas and arguments and selfies and partisanism!! what side were you on in the vloofie vore vs. bangie's lolcow k/iw/i/far/ms thread????*
*i made this up its not a real thing
bigfoot is legal on Twitter
“@ActualDoctor love to exist in the public consciousness as a loose collection of traumas and arguments and selfies and partisanism!! what side were you on in the vloofie vore vs. bangie's lolcow k/iw/i/far/ms thread????* *i made this up its not a real thing”twitter.com
Bitches, I know you come over here to lurk. We're like your secret porn stash that you can't stop yourself from looking at. Stop being hypocrites about it. Admit you lurk at Kiwi Farms. Spell the name of the site fully and openly instead of using slashes like a coward.
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- Dec 28, 2014
Because they're more likely to have been doing it to escape horrifying trauma, as opposed to males doing it to get off.
Except now it will be an online tranny cult that will immediately try to indoctrinate you into trooning out, viciously abusing your trauma to do it.
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- Jan 6, 2019
i think another contributing factor to acceptance of MtF over FtM is just plain 'ol sexism. A male troon was never much use to anyone and useless men are easily ignored. A female who sterilizes herself and cuts off her boobs is useless and useless women are despised.