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Are we really having this fight. Look ISWV people who read this:

Even if the person served in the army, one high honor and deserves respect, that does not excuse or pardon their actions. If this Ruxia (or whatever their name is) is a convicted pedo, they should be treated as such. If this is some win for KV, let them have it for whatever pathetic reason they make it. They are pathetic and you shouldn't stoop to being as such yourself. Now can we all move the fuck on from this minor event as we got a major one going on which is far more interesting. Also, I really dont know anything about this so I can really speak if they are or aren't because I dont fucking care.

"Oh that he is okay with children being raped"

Are we talking about something that happened 6 years ago or someone flirting with minor last week trying to get nudes? If it is the former, the likelihood someone is in danger is small. If it is the latter, drop the political game and then maybe spread awareness. But I find the whole telling Vic or defending it fucking ridiculous. Probably could find out more if I dug in the thread.

As for how Vic will feel about this, he learned that a 20 year long friendship was all a lie with them all wanting him to burn in hell. Very little hurts more than a dagger like that in the heart. I'd rather be told I became good friends to my father's murderer than experience that.
 
Vic's GFM update: It has broken 264K and is currently $264,160.
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Of course he is. He’s a fly who likes to eat and vomit shit. At least a lot of ISWV spergs are disavowing the pedo rapist. More than KV is willing to do to their degenerates. Also hey Helmet Cuck, how come you people do nothing to clean up this anime community? Why are the Kiwis doing all this? Several here aren’t even weebs.

He's the type of person that will claim to "listen and believe" victims, but will sit on his hands when a Vice President he likes gets arrested and fired for abusing his wife. And I agree, how fucking sad is it that a supposedly "trolling website" like Kiwi Farms has done more work exposing all the dirt than these so-called believers of victims and survivors?
 
Are we really having this fight. Look ISWV people who read this:

Even if the person served in the army, one high honor and deserves respect, that does not excuse or pardon their actions. If this Ruxia (or whatever their name is) is a convicted pedo, they should be treated as such. If this is some win for KV, let them have it for whatever pathetic reason they make it. They are pathetic and you shouldn't stoop to being as such yourself. Now can we all move the fuck on from this minor event as we got a major one going on which is far more interesting. Also, I really dont know anything about this so I can really speak if they are or aren't because I dont fucking care.

"Oh that he is okay with children being raped"

Are we talking about something that happened 6 years ago or someone flirting with minor last week trying to get nudes? If it is the former, the likelihood someone is in danger is small. If it is the latter, drop the political game and then maybe spread awareness. But I find the whole telling Vic or defending it fucking ridiculous. Probably could find out more if I dug in the thread.

As for how Vic will feel about this, he learned that a 20 year long friendship was all a lie with them all wanting him to burn in hell. Very little hurts more than a dagger like that in the heart. I'd rather be told I became good friends to my father's murderer than experience that.

Sooner or later the truth has to come out but sometimes it's better to lie when hearing the truth at the moment is detrimental.

But this also just proves that ISWV has become more and more of a spregfest. Which leads to me thinking that a schism is gonna happen soon.
 
Well that is a lie if I ever saw one....!
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This bio was written almost 3 years ago, when he'd be the age of 23-24. So he's fishing for kiddies.

To make it painfully clear to everyone here. This guy raped a 5 year old when he was 12.
Then he has continiously been dragged in for shady shit like, drawing children in compromising positions, cp, not cool stuff.
The article which provides you with the latest image of this 'lady', is from October 11th 2019, because YES, he got his PS4 taken away from him by police.
This is not old behaviour, it is continious behaviour.

In 2006, by own claims raped their cousin
In 2011 they were convicted for raping a 5 year old. The 5 year old was a girl for the record.
In adulthood he conveniently tr00ns out.....gee, haven't seen this before....
In the 2011 article you can find this:
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In 2013
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In 2015: The SHPO was made in 2015, after Smith – then known as Matthew Burren – was caught with prohibited images of children a second time and had been contacting children online. [note from me here: notice how it doesn't say teens, or young girls, it says children ]

Above mentioned, the website where he is posing as a 17 year old at 23. This would be 2017, it is still up, around and working so he could have been doing it since then.
There is the FB where he is befriended a minor.
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So he is breaking, and know he is breaking what was put on him as a restraint by the state and law. The account where he is posing as 17 was still active/online and around, along with the FB one when the dox happened.

Then we arrive at October 11th 2019

What was it taken away for you may ask, it is in the article:
"Emma Charleton, prosecuting, said the terms of that order banned Smith from deleting her internet history or using software designed to hide what websites she had visited. "

When officers visited her home they also found a PlayStation 4 games console. There was no internet history saved on the device, but a number of pornographic websites bookmarked, indicating that the browsing history had been deleted or otherwise not saved.

Smith admitted she had been looking at pornographic websites but could not be sure the images she was looking at were illegal.


He used 'incognito' mode to bookmark porn he didn't know was legal or not.
Admitted to looking at porn; but was not certain if the images were illegal or not. That raises some really big red flags.
"Yeah they might have been illegal, IDK, coulda been, I don't recall? "
If this was legal porn, and legal searches, there would be no need of erasing or removing the search history.

He really desperately wants that PS4 back, and I have a gut feeling it is because they will find search history of CP, everywhere.
This arc of Matthew Burren aka Alex Smith aka Okiya will end with an angry father offing him for raping their daughter.
 
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It's important that we laugh at spergs from both sides to fill the void of nothing happening.

The culture war and 'sides' have no bearing on Vic and the defendants of the actual lawsuit. Disgusting people supporting him doesn't make him guilty or anything, same for the others. Total non-issue.
 
But this also just proves that ISWV has become more and more of a spregfest. Which leads to me thinking that a schism is gonna happen soon.
Although any internet fight is the gift that keeps on giving, I think this is not a 'movement', yet, so I think your expectations are too high. I'm going to say probably after this is over someone will suggest making a movement or other people get added to this so it's no longer about just one person, then you'll have what you're expecting.
 
ISWV is overdue for another purge anyway.

Especially considering the lawsuit is about to go into another slow period, both with the holidays coming up and everyone needing to regroup and strategize moving forward.

The more exceptional types won't like that especially if Lemoine is getting ready to have a full on chimpout. There will be enough baiting from KV when it comes to ISWV because both sides don't know how to sit back and let the cogs turn.

In my opinion? Best thing to do is let them fight and try not to drag their drama here.
But seriously, nobody should be defending a verified pedo for any reason and anyone who does qualifies for rehoming in the lolcow pastures.
 
Gonna be interesting to see how their tune changes when Appeals get turned over and they acknowledge that their own lawyers are swindling them out of 6-digit numbers' worth of money.
 
lawsuit is about to go into another slow period,
not if mosquito-Chan has something to say about it
And who knows, when he's pushed by appeals, maybe Sam Johnson will loose his shit & act more like mosquito-chan.

We can hope. Much as I find what seems to have happened to Vic distateful, it's fun watching MoRon get deeper and deeper in the sheise, egged on by "supporters" and maybe attorneys that made unrealistic.
Nick can hope Lemoine runs up MoRon's bills too.
 
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Sorry to bring up the Michael Quinn stuff again and sorry if I have been cougar'd.

Another contrast between Vic and Michael is the actions of the alleged victims.

The "stunning and brave" Monica Rial waited 12 years and then started posting on social media and going to his employers.

Quinn's wife went to the police the same day. She didn't think Rooster Teeth was going to protect her. She didn't think social media would do anything.

RT's voice actors fawned over Monica Rial and stayed quiet with Quinn.

This whole thing points out that RT is full of coddled Ivory tower liberals who believe words are violence.

Or they are virtue signallers who only speak up when someone famous is accused.
 
Gonna be interesting to see how their tune changes when Appeals get turned over and they acknowledge that their own lawyers are swindling them out of 6-digit numbers' worth of money.
Quite possible this was purely punitive. I think Nick said pretty much the following which I believe. To save face what Lemon will do is Bill out the amount to Ron & Monica and they'll say they can't pay for it then they'll renegociate what they can afford. And they will hide their punitive fees this way. But the caveat is that his firm would more or less have to know what is up and allow him to slash fees to his clients.
 
Gonna be interesting to see how their tune changes when Appeals get turned over and they acknowledge that their own lawyers are swindling them out of 6-digit numbers' worth of money.

LawTwitter was here because of the TCPA and the first amendment implications. TCPA gets flipped they really don't have anything to argue.

Shane will stay because he jammed himself into this.

Ron will lie as he always had. Even after he is forced to settle or sell his house to continue the fight. Remember when he thought he was going to start suing YouTubers covering this? Now he is 160k in the hole. I doubt that lawsuit is coming.
Quite possible this was purely punitive. I think Nick said pretty much the following which I believe. To save face what Lemon will do is Bill out the amount to Ron & Monica and they'll say they can't pay for it then they'll renegociate what they can afford. And they will hide their punitive fees this way. But the caveat is that his firm would more or less have to know what is up and allow him to slash fees to his clients.

I'm guessing they won't slash the fees because of the way Lemoine's partner seemed to insistently demand the judge listen to them.
 
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