Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

The degree to which they are going after the crowdfunded money is pretty vindictive and weird. That this is crowdfunded is what makes it so damn clear this is not a case within the spirit of the TCPA, even if it runs afoul of the letter. This is not a corporation with limitless funds or a billionaire with an ax to grind. This lawsuit was funded because an individual persuasively argued to a portion of the public that he had been wronged and deserved a chance to try and prove that in court. If we're going to have a justice system where you have to pay big money to get lawyers, officially discouraging people from doing what Vic did basically amounts to officially declaring a two tier justice system.
 
This lawsuit was funded because an individual persuasively argued to a portion of the public that he had been wronged and deserved a chance to try and prove that in court.

He didn't even do that. He asked nobody to do this. The behavior of the defendants was just so utterly reprehensible and even outright evil that someone spontaneously decided to do it and a lot of people agreed that the defendants are absolute garbage who needed to pay for their shitty, illegal behavior.
 
The degree to which they are going after the crowdfunded money is pretty vindictive and weird. That this is crowdfunded is what makes it so damn clear this is not a case within the spirit of the TCPA, even if it runs afoul of the letter. This is not a corporation with limitless funds or a billionaire with an ax to grind. This lawsuit was funded because an individual persuasively argued to a portion of the public that he had been wronged and deserved a chance to try and prove that in court. If we're going to have a justice system where you have to pay big money to get lawyers, officially discouraging people from doing what Vic did basically amounts to officially declaring a two tier justice system.
The legal system in the U.S. is like the medical system. It's the best system money can buy. No mun? No fun.
 
The legal system in the U.S. is like the medical system. It's the best system money can buy. No mun? No fun.
Only difference is that Americans can't go to Cuba to get cheap and effective lawsuits.

Thinking about money woes I wanted to ask something out of the more law savy people, hippotetically if Ron and Monica thought Lemoie hurt them with his legal representation could they go after him for reparations?

This is a far away hippotetical, but if they lose the lawsuit or even just goes pass TCPA, could they go after Lemon by arguing that his actions were the cause of them losing the lawsuit or at least go after him for padding the bill unnecessarily?
 
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This is a far away hippotetical, but if they lose the lawsuit or even just goes pass TCPA, could they go after Lemon by arguing that his actions were the cause of them losing the lawsuit or at least go after him for padding the bill unnecessarily?

Both, although it would be really hard to argue malpractice for a case the lawyer won that was overturned on appeal, which actually suggests a better job than was done, i.e. he managed to win a case he should have lost.
 
Both, although it would be really hard to argue malpractice for a case the lawyer won that was overturned on appeal, which actually suggests a better job than was done, i.e. he managed to win a case he should have lost.
Malpractice does not just entail wronfully losing a case, it also includes defrauding your clients or coercing them into doing something that will harm them in any way, or just being unethical. Nick has said almost full tilt that Moronica should consult a malpractice atourney on the matter.
 
The degree to which they are going after the crowdfunded money is pretty vindictive and weird. That this is crowdfunded is what makes it so damn clear this is not a case within the spirit of the TCPA, even if it runs afoul of the letter. This is not a corporation with limitless funds or a billionaire with an ax to grind. This lawsuit was funded because an individual persuasively argued to a portion of the public that he had been wronged and deserved a chance to try and prove that in court. If we're going to have a justice system where you have to pay big money to get lawyers, officially discouraging people from doing what Vic did basically amounts to officially declaring a two tier justice system.
The legal system in the U.S. is like the medical system. It's the best system money can buy. No mun? No fun.
If the cost of entry to the legal system in America makes it unattainable to the common person, it'll just continue to increase the likelihood that they turn to the firm of Smith & Wesson instead.
 
Both, although it would be really hard to argue malpractice for a case the lawyer won that was overturned on appeal, which actually suggests a better job than was done, i.e. he managed to win a case he should have lost.
We're not dealing with smart people here. I hope the idea gets planted in Ron's soy-filled head that he can easily get his money back through a malpractice suit against Jdolf so we can have yet another round of this shit. Personally I'd be rooting for Jdolf since all he's done is be a stereotypical asshole lawyer. Imagine if TCPA was overturned on MoRon, they lost their appeal against Vic, they lost the trial against Vic, they lost the subsequent appeals against Vic, and then they lost the malpractice case against Lemonfuhrer.
 
We're not dealing with smart people here. I hope the idea gets planted in Ron's soy-filled head that he can easily get his money back through a malpractice suit against Jdolf so we can have yet another round of this shit. Personally I'd be rooting for Jdolf since all he's done is be a stereotypical asshole lawyer. Imagine if TCPA was overturned on MoRon, they lost their appeal against Vic, they lost the trial against Vic, they lost the subsequent appeals against Vic, and then they lost the malpractice case against Lemonfuhrer.
TCPA would be the breaking point, I think.

As of now, they "only" lose $160,000 if Vic just rolls over and dies. If it gets past TCPA, the $100,000 payout they get from Vic gets reduced by however many causes are upheld, and by how much the appeals court decides on.

And let's say they utterly destroy Vic at trial. They're still on the hook for the $280,000 Lemwaaah said he would bill them for. And that's best case scenario.

Anything less than best case is embarrassing discovery, costly settlement or a jury judgment, and lots of time and stress.

Martinez and Hsu seem like they're on the ball and out for blood, so I'm confident at least something will be reversed. And that's where the fun begins.
 
We're not dealing with smart people here. I hope the idea gets planted in Ron's soy-filled head that he can easily get his money back through a malpractice suit against Jdolf so we can have yet another round of this shit. Personally I'd be rooting for Jdolf since all he's done is be a stereotypical asshole lawyer. Imagine if TCPA was overturned on MoRon, they lost their appeal against Vic, they lost the trial against Vic, they lost the subsequent appeals against Vic, and then they lost the malpractice case against Lemonfuhrer.
What's actually better is if more things come out of that malpractice suit if it happens, like say DM's/Group chats from lawtwitter assuring them that Vic would have to pay. That is if it happens of course but will be hilarious if it does.
 
Nick has said almost full tilt that Moronica should consult a malpractice atourney on the matter.

They definitely should but that doesn't mean they'll win yet. What they have now, even if the dismissal and award are upheld in all respects, is a very good basis for a fee dispute with the bar association. This doesn't even require much in the way of resources to start up:


This generally entitles you to a free or low cost mediation process that reasonably often leads to the lawyer taking a serious haircut on ridiculous fees. And if they find evidence of even worse misconduct they're also the bar association, so they can initiate a second process if they feel like there are also disciplinary concerns raised.

And unlike when some nutcase makes complaints because they saw something on the Internet that triggered their feels, they actually have standing to bring the complaint.
 
What's actually better is if more things come out of that malpractice suit if it happens, like say DM's/Group chats from lawtwitter assuring them that Vic would have to pay. That is if it happens of course but will be hilarious if it does.
It's a testament to how fucked up this whole situation is that what should be the driest of events, the assignment of fees, still gives us plenty to laugh about.
 
We all know they hate Nick, and this forum too much to take any sensible advice. They won’t consult a malpractice lawyer, or even other council.

To them, Lemontwink is a god lawyer since he managed to legally smear Vic through the filings, and affidavits.

It doesn’t matter that the TCPA expert spent 260 hours on just ”researching”, and drafting the TCPA motion alone. Where as a lowly stripmall lawyer got the case won for 1/5 the cost in total.
 
I'm holding out for a MoRon murder-suicide ending. :optimistic:
Best-case scenario would be if Ron kills anyone and it makes the news, and then he gets the death sentence. Then 15-20 years later we get Weeb Wars Anniversary Edition as Ronald Joseph Toye III is executed by lethal injection.

The Fuhrer and Monica better watch themselves because if Fuhrer Citronella's boss is pissed at the fees ruling imagine how angry Ron must be at being on the hook for that much money. Unless of course Funimation is paying for this shit like some suspect.
We all know they hate Nick, and this forum too much to take any sensible advice. They won’t consult a malpractice lawyer, or even other council.
That's why Nick never should've suggested a malpractice lawyer, now they'll ignore him on that.
i want to see what monica does if vic wins any counts against her on appeal. will she turn on ron first, or lemoine? the smartest move would be to get her own lawyer, settle with vic, blame ron, then sue lemoine for malpractice. too logical for her tho.
She'd have to escape Ron's wrath first. Odds are Ron owns the house she lives in and while she might be smart enough to have separate finances from her fiance, Ron will probably try and shift the financial burden of the lawsuit on her.
 
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