Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[Carnavoyeur]

When I signed up, it was about foxes having sex. I feel old.

When I first signed up on my old account it was For Julies Eyes Only. I think Null should bring that one back.

 

[Punkinsplice]

I miss the Karens. That kerfluffle and the side effect of bringing in another cow and Null was hilarious. Good times.

 

[Non-Expert!]

I miss the Karens. That kerfluffle and the side effect of bringing in another cow and Null was hilarious. Good times.

Way to bring them back is to start naming their kids on this thread, like Eli DeWayne Bell ...

That is what made his mother crap her pants, when she did a search for her son and came upon a tard Baby thread.

Actually better not. No matter how damning the diagnosis, at the core they are grieving mothers.

1. Even though they won't admit it, they have been grieving since the moment they found out that the baby they were carrying won't do ANY of the fun stuff that make parenting fulfilling.

2. Notice how these parents have normal kids, and they don't call them warriors for Jesus, precious angels, or employ a high dose of magical thinking in reference to their existing. So a loss of hope of improvement or some miracle is lost.

3. They are ALSO grieving a deceased child. No matter how fucked up and futile his prognosis looks from a rational standpoint, a lot of mothers go berserk, regardless.

Anyway these betches stuck a stick in a hornets nest, and I admit, the spectacle was pretty entertaining.

 

[MysticMisty]

When I signed up, it was about foxes having sex. I feel old.

When I first signed up on my old account it was For Julies Eyes Only. I think Null should bring that one back.

When I first signed up there was no captcha at all. I wouldn't even know there was one at all if people didn't mention it every now and then.

 

[AnOminous]

When I first signed up on my old account it was For Julies Eyes Only. I think Null should bring that one back.

Growl!

 

[I suck ass]

If anyone wants to do a deep dive into a new kid/cow parents, check out the hashtag #evalove on Instagram. (dad @ dugansherbondy)

I’m at work so can’t do a full rundown, but tldr; crazy intense Christian family has adorable daughter that has a freak accident, falls off golf cart and smashes head, predicted to not make it after massive surgery but defies odds and lives, is now massively brain injured. She seemed like a sweet kid but her parents won’t accept anything other than a ‘full and complete healing’ from god, never mind that their kid had like a 1% chance of survival and actually is alive, they’re treating any small recovery she has as not good enough and calling it all just waiting until god fully heals her.

I understand it’d be a huge adjustment but they are just so obnoxious about the whole thing from a god perspective that I feel so sorry for the poor girl in more ways than one. I’ll find some choice quotes later but the thing that irritates me the most is the fact that people link them to other brain injured children/adults who have grown up to be somewhat functional and have a good life and the dad is just like ‘Eva will be fully healed though because we do extra special prayers to god and he cares about us more‘ etc.

also the dad is a pastor (of course) and he makes his children call him Abba instead of dad because god is often called Abba in the bible, fuckin creepy tbh, it’s like he wants his children to see him as divine

it’s all so weird lmaoo

 

[LetThemEatCake]

Willnever get these 'intense, crazy Christians' who behave like this, this transactional way, so to speak. Isn't what happened 'God's will' as per their theology? Shouldn't they accept it? Or let the kid go, so she can go to paradise/heaven, which they claim to believe in and is so much better than here, again, in their theology? if you believe in all that, and God's Plan, why the need to cling? Really? Why?

It always seems to me this kind of Christianity is not about treating their god as ineffable, less as moving in mysterious, unknowable ways, but more as a personal favour dispenser whom one demands things of loudly and persistently, because one feels one deserves it and God's entire job is to hover around his self-obsessed worshippers, doing things for them he wouldn't do for the less shriekingly, in-yer-face godly, up to and including apparently reversing death.

And yes, I'm aware Not All Christians. I know and know of plenty of do not and would not act like this, having a wider and more nuanced take on their religion. The noisier they are, the less actually Christian, in my experience.

 

[John Merston]

I’m at work so can’t do a full rundown, but tldr; crazy intense Christian family has adorable daughter that has a freak accident, falls off golf cart and smashes head, predicted to not make it after massive surgery but defies odds and lives, is now massively brain injured. She seemed like a sweet kid but her parents won’t accept anything other than a ‘full and complete healing’ from god, never mind that their kid had like a 1% chance of survival and actually is alive, they’re treating any small recovery she has as not good enough and calling it all just waiting until god fully heals her.

How functional is the girl now? Is she a Terri Schiavo-tier flesh doll?

 

[I suck ass]

How functional is the girl now? Is she a Terri Schiavo-tier flesh doll?

She reacts to external stimuli, light and sound etc, but all she can really do is cry and have seizures. She can’t hold her body or head up and she needs to wear a helmet to protect her brain. She definitely looks very disabled by the brain injury. The poor little thing isn’t in a good place which is so sad because she seemed kind and adorable. It’s just her weird dad that takes the situation from sad to really uncomfortable.

 

[Non-Expert!]

She reacts to external stimuli, light and sound etc, but all she can really do is cry and have seizures. She can’t hold her body or head up and she needs to wear a helmet to protect her brain. She definitely looks very disabled by the brain injury. The poor little thing isn’t in a good place which is so sad because she seemed kind and adorable. It’s just her weird dad that takes the situation from sad to really uncomfortable.

What did the medical team say about her chance of recovery?

What percent of her brain is affected, and where?

When kids get catastrophically injured like this, there is tremendous guilt and shame on the part of the parent, especially if the accident is due to negligence on his or her part.

I am assuming that you are not a parent but I don't know you, obviously.

It is easier to say "it is in Jesus' hands now," and rile up a small following of Yes people. It gives you a renewed sense of purpose, that fills in the empty space that the child's otherwise normally developing life previously occupied.

Easier to deny reality, then face it.

I am not familiar with the case though, just saying in general.

Prayers Needed After Freak Golf Cart Accident Has 7-Year-Old Eva Love Sherbondy Fighting for Life

The desperate mom of Eva Love, a 7-year-old injured in a freak golf cart accident, is asking for prayers because she knows God can heal her daughter.

www.godupdates.com

Article dates to August.

The skull has these areas where it is stitched together. Since this child was 7, and still growing, she could have fallen on one of those stitchy parts.

People in motorcycles and bikes and stuff can get seemingly survivable bumps that turn out to be catastrophic because they hit their head in the wrong place.

This whole thing is sad.

Lesson learned about golf carts and kids. Crap.

 

[Allo Vera]

I stumbled across Eva Love on Instagram a few weeks ago. Such an adorable looking kid. Poor, poor girl. The long term prognosis looks pretty dire.

I can imagine that the parents, as fundies, must get immense comfort from the solid, unshakeable belief that their God is going to fully heal their child. It must be the only reason they can get out of bed in the morning. But at the same time... jeez, it must be so hard for medical professionals to even talk to them... make sure they understand what is being said to them. To understand what kind of existence their daughter is going to have now.

It’s like their faith is expressed as denial bordering on complete stupidity.

 

[I hate children?]

I stumbled across Eva Love on Instagram a few weeks ago. Such an adorable looking kid. Poor, poor girl. The long term prognosis looks pretty dire.

I can imagine that the parents, as fundies, must get immense comfort from the solid, unshakeable belief that their God is going to fully heal their child. It must be the only reason they can get out of bed in the morning. But at the same time... jeez, it must be so hard for medical professionals to even talk to them... make sure they understand what is being said to them. To understand what kind of existence their daughter is going to have now.

It’s like their faith is expressed as denial bordering on complete stupidity.

The parents are also using their child's horrific accident and injuries to proselytize as they keep reminding others the real story isn't about Eva because God and Jesus are the real miracle here. Whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean .

Seeing them reduce everything the doctors and medical staff has done to God's direct action is pretty typical of fundies but these people take the goddamn cake .

 

[Sperghetti]

It’s like their faith is expressed as denial bordering on complete stupidity.

I think it's because a lot of these fundie-lite types have a strong belief that as long as they do the "right" things, everything will be okay. To them, that's just how things work: Faith is rewarded and God doesn't give you more than you can handle.

So when something horribly tragic happens, it's a threat to their whole view of reality. As far as they know, they'd been doing everything "right", so why would they recieve a horrible punishment, like a completely hopeless situation? Their only options are to completely re-evaluate their views, or to double down and try to convince themselves that everyone else is wrong and this situation isn't as bad as it seems.

 

[Non-Expert!]

I think it's because a lot of these fundie-lite types have a strong belief that as long as they do the "right" things, everything will be okay. To them, that's just how things work: Faith is rewarded and God doesn't give you more than you can handle.

So when something horribly tragic happens, it's a threat to their whole view of reality. As far as they know, they'd been doing everything "right", so why would they recieve a horrible punishment, like a completely hopeless situation? Their only options are to completely re-evaluate their views, or to double down and try to convince themselves that everyone else is wrong and this situation isn't as bad as it seems.

OK, as a God-appreciating person myself, I get that.

But their home-grown Evangelical version of Protestantism (hint: Daddy is the pastor) doesn't account for the fact that God allowed the kid to drop off the golf-cart to begin with.

And what? In effect we are supposed to pray that Jesus persuades Dad to change his mind on the Child's fate.

Or that God changes his mind?

Or that the bad accident was the work of evil/bad, and that God/Good will make it better?

I really, really, really wish we could just beg Dad to change his mind and he can restore her back to being the little girl in the ballerina suit.

This is also a God who was helpless to change the minds and hearts of two generations of Germans who sent kids to be slaughtered for the sake of the thousand year Reich. Where was God when Europe's Jewrey were rounded up, starved and gassed?

What did God do, to stop Pol Pot, before a third of Cambodia's population was slaughtered?

Did the people just not have enough faith?

Ok enough Sperging. We all know this stuff.

But it is frustrating as hell, when this type of doctrine-incorrect tabloid Christianity stands in the way of science, and influences who we vote into office, and how our taxes are spent.

And denies people, namely children, the mercy of a dignified passing.

In more orthodox forms of the faith, God is not some sort of mystical band-aid. Tragedies happen, as it is a reflection of Man's fallen nature. It is through our faith in the mysteries of the Holy Trinity, that we can get to Heaven someday, to be free of tragedies, like losing a child.

How we handle ourselves in the meantime is more the test of our faith.

Anyway, my point is, that if you follow a non-revisionist form of Christianity, these horrible events aren't a contradiction of faith.

CAVEAT:

I am not trying to convert people.

My only point here is to highlight that the idea of God being a great Skydaddy, who doles out more allowance to his children who think correct thoughts and do all their chores the right way, is not universal.

Most Christians, worldwide, are more of the saint-venerating, transsubstantiation of the Host, mysteries of the Holy Trinity variety.

 

[Second Missing Primarch]

I think it's because a lot of these fundie-lite types have a strong belief that as long as they do the "right" things, everything will be okay. To them, that's just how things work: Faith is rewarded and God doesn't give you more than you can handle.

So when something horribly tragic happens, it's a threat to their whole view of reality. As far as they know, they'd been doing everything "right", so why would they recieve a horrible punishment, like a completely hopeless situation? Their only options are to completely re-evaluate their views, or to double down and try to convince themselves that everyone else is wrong and this situation isn't as bad as it seems.

That is pretty much the case. I grew up in evangelical Protestant churches, so I got to see up close and personal what happened to evangelicals who had to deal with personal catastrophes. Some did the whole "prayer warrior" thing and insisted that God would definitely intervene on their behalf. Most of the time, those people either wound up disillusioned and bitter, or they got philosophical and concluded that it must have been God's plan to let the bad thing happen to them. Some people just snapped and repudiated God outright as soon as shit went fanwards, generally those who weren't that serious about Christianity to begin with. A very few just buckled down, prayed for strength to deal with what was happening to them, and soldiered on, but they were the rarest of all.

As an example of the latter: I know one couple who had twin boys. They were diagnosed in utero with some kind of rare musculoskeletal disorder. It meant they'd never be able to move or breathe on their own. They'd have to be cared for round the clock, and neither of them was expected to survive for long. Since they're conservative Christians, abortion was right out, so they decided to carry the boys to term and raise them. They've been open about the fact that it caused them to question everything about their faith, as well as putting heavy stress on their marriage and giving them both a lot of sleepless nights. Eventually, they said "we don't know why this happened to us, but we're not going to let it ruin our relationship or our beliefs. We'll trust in God, care for these kids as long as we have them, and make sure they know they're loved." I'm sure they still have their private moments of frustration, because you'd have to be a literal saint not to, but otherwise they've handled it about as well as anyone could have. They've given their sons the best possible medical care and have never whored them out for money, asspats, or pity. They also haven't insisted that God would reach down and fix the boys up if enough people begged him to. They accepted what was and did their best with it. Frankly, they make a lot of the other parents in this thread look like gigantic dildos, especially the ones who loudly insist that Jesus will miraculously grow their kid a new brain or whatever.

 

[Non-Expert!]

That is pretty much the case. I grew up in evangelical Protestant churches, so I got to see up close and personal what happened to evangelicals who had to deal with personal catastrophes. Some did the whole "prayer warrior" thing and insisted that God would definitely intervene on their behalf. Most of the time, those people either wound up disillusioned and bitter, or they got philosophical and concluded that it must have been God's plan to let the bad thing happen to them. Some people just snapped and repudiated God outright as soon as shit went fanwards, generally those who weren't that serious about Christianity to begin with. A very few just buckled down, prayed for strength to deal with what was happening to them, and soldiered on, but they were the rarest of all.

As an example of the latter: I know one couple who had twin boys. They were diagnosed in utero with some kind of rare musculoskeletal disorder. It meant they'd never be able to move or breathe on their own. They'd have to be cared for round the clock, and neither of them was expected to survive for long. Since they're conservative Christians, abortion was right out, so they decided to carry the boys to term and raise them. They've been open about the fact that it caused them to question everything about their faith, as well as putting heavy stress on their marriage and giving them both a lot of sleepless nights. Eventually, they said "we don't know why this happened to us, but we're not going to let it ruin our relationship or our beliefs. We'll trust in God, care for these kids as long as we have them, and make sure they know they're loved." I'm sure they still have their private moments of frustration, because you'd have to be a literal saint not to, but otherwise they've handled it about as well as anyone could have. They've given their sons the best possible medical care and have never whored them out for money, asspats, or pity. They also haven't insisted that God would reach down and fix the boys up if enough people begged him to. They accepted what was and did their best with it. Frankly, they make a lot of the other parents in this thread look like gigantic dildos, especially the ones who loudly insist that Jesus will miraculously grow their kid a new brain or whatever.

Dugan Sherbondy on Instagram: “Eva’s coming back to Madison today! I’m so excited to have my girl close to home and also a 30 minutes commute to her instead of 3 hour…”

35.7k Likes, 871 Comments - Dugan Sherbondy (@dugansherbondy) on Instagram: “Eva’s coming back to Madison today! I’m so excited to have my girl close to home and also a 30…”

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This guy seems to expect the Lord to just make her like the "Talitha" situation in the NT, For reference, it is when Jesus sees some paralitic girl on the streets of Palestine, and says "Little Girl Rise" in Aramaic, and she gets up and walks and talks etc.

Granted, this fellow seems to be able to [thump] that Bible, actually he thumps the damn thing till it's battered and bruised.

However he is missing the larger picture about miracles. That is because probably nobody taught him. Lack of on-the-job-training.

Per Christian theology, Christ's birth was a miracle thru the Virgin. That was a one-time miracle, known to be happening when it happened, as in three kings, Massacre of the innocents, etc. He lived a "normal" life until he is called to his ministry. Then he recruits his disciples beginning with rural fishing communities etc.

He does a bunch of cool stuff such as raising the dead, turning water into wine and fixing cripples, etc. ... Really awesome stuff, as he preaches the WORD.

All the while he pisses off the Sanhedrin and finally they pressure Pontias Pilate to crucify him.

The final miracles (really, the last ones) are he rises from the tomb then he comes back, and then goes to Heaven for the last time.

And we haven't heard from him since. Nobody has evoked the name of Jesus and turned water into wine and seen dead folks walk out of catacombs. If somebody claims to see these things, the Vatican will order a mental health eval as part of a "miraculous incident report" (my term) and probably filed as either fraud or mental.

Jesus's mission was to come to Earth, say what he wanted to say and do what he needed to do (make miracles, die and rise again) to establish a new Covenant with God.

That is it though.

He isn't going around raising quadriplegics out of their wheelchairs, and attaching brains to babies born without them. That is because that time for that is over, because he succeeded in establishing the new Covenant.

In Catholicism there are miracles but they are attributed to the Virgin or Saints, or somebody up for Canonization. But the miracles are also to prove some kind of point, and can happen to people who aren't particularly devout, or even deserving.

I really, really, really feel sorry for these people. Having a child who is gorgeous, full of dreams and potential, who becomes a complete invalid, is one of the worst things that can happen to you. And it really can happen to anybody.

Dugan Sherbondy (@dugansherbondy) • Instagram photos and videos

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His Instagram is full of him complaining that it is taking Jesus too long to make a miracle and restore her.

I have said what I wanted to say.

 

[AlexJonesGotMePregnant]

to any lingering karens: If god forgot to grow the rest of your baby's brain, it's because you're a bad christian. If you had more faith in god, he would heal your baby. Everything happens for a reason and the reason is that you're a dick and god doesn't like you. Just kys ffs

 

[JackDonaghysSecretLover]

If anyone wants to do a deep dive into a new kid/cow parents, check out the hashtag #evalove on Instagram. (dad @ dugansherbondy)

I’m at work so can’t do a full rundown, but tldr; crazy intense Christian family has adorable daughter that has a freak accident, falls off golf cart and smashes head, predicted to not make it after massive surgery but defies odds and lives, is now massively brain injured. She seemed like a sweet kid but her parents won’t accept anything other than a ‘full and complete healing’ from god, never mind that their kid had like a 1% chance of survival and actually is alive, they’re treating any small recovery she has as not good enough and calling it all just waiting until god fully heals her.

I understand it’d be a huge adjustment but they are just so obnoxious about the whole thing from a god perspective that I feel so sorry for the poor girl in more ways than one. I’ll find some choice quotes later but the thing that irritates me the most is the fact that people link them to other brain injured children/adults who have grown up to be somewhat functional and have a good life and the dad is just like ‘Eva will be fully healed though because we do extra special prayers to god and he cares about us more‘ etc.

also the dad is a pastor (of course) and he makes his children call him Abba instead of dad because god is often called Abba in the bible, fuckin creepy tbh, it’s like he wants his children to see him as divine

it’s all so weird lmaoo

Just catching up and this is the saddest one. It's always so awful to see a perfectly healthy child get reduced to nothing, and I feel awful for her parents, but all the visions of god healing her brain are just... ridiculous.

 

[John Merston]

Frankly, they make a lot of the other parents in this thread look like gigantic dildos, especially the ones who loudly insist that Jesus will miraculously grow their kid a new brain or whatever.

As bad as those people are, the parents who insist that their potato baby's wretched state is totally perfect because God made them that way is even worse.

 

[Second Missing Primarch]

As bad as those people are, the parents who insist that their potato baby's wretched state is totally perfect because God made them that way is even worse.
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Psalms 139:13‭-‬16: "For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be."

Those are the verses these parents and everyone like them are leaning on. It's why so many Christians are so savagely anti-abortion, no matter what the circumstance may be. They don't care if the baby was conceived via rape or incest or if it has some kind of disease or disorder that will render it a vegetable or kill it slowly and painfully, because these babies are God's own handiwork. And, of course, God can't make mistakes, seeing as how he's the supreme creator of the infinite multiverse and all. Therefore, if your baby comes out like this poor thing, it's because God ordained it so, and how dare you question him?

I think that's the main problem for these right-wing Christians when they try to talk about abortion to non-Christians. They're dealing with questions of faith and metaphysics that most non-Christians don't particularly care about, so of course they wind up looking like Bible-beating dopes. Meanwhile, from their perspective, all they see are these heartless people dismissing God's sacred handiwork as a useless lump of flesh, which drives them right up the wall. I don't want to say it's a fundamentally irreconcilable issue, but I think it's close.