General transgender discussion thread - Take the tranny related debates here.

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I just want to say, thanks for bearing with us transphobes. Trans or not, you're cool and you shouldn't feel bad about being who you are. :feels:

Also, aren't women who do drag called faux queens? Pretty sure drag queens are exclusively male.

alright guys everybody take a break from dunking on troons to give some patronizing ass-pats to the “one of the good ones” token tranny 🙄 u go girl, slay slay, your Adam’s apple is fierce and fabulous
 
I don't care about the decisions an adult makes regarding how far into transitioning they go. I do care about adults putting children through the process. Children, raised in an agreeably normal environment, are trustful and as a result don't fully understand coercion until they're taught about it. Nowadays, it seems parents can fast track with no resistance - provided they are in the right place.

I know a lady that got her daughter to falsely accuse her father of sexual abuse. It was all a lie (I knew this guy. Solid gold.), the father's reputation was shot, mother got custody of all three kids, quickly after starts posting even more generic liberal stuff on social media, eventually oldest son is wearing girl's clothes and is rapidly transitioning at age 12. I haven't spoke to the father in a while but I can't imagine what his mental state is like at all time. Oh, and please forgive me for powerleveling. I got a long list of complaints and a shit ton of suspicions.
The problem being that children love to mimic adults. How many children have been inspired by the likes of Caitlyn Jenner & Thomas Beatie?
 
alright guys everybody take a break from dunking on troons to give some patronizing ass-pats to the “one of the good ones” token tranny 🙄 u go girl, slay slay, your Adam’s apple is fierce and fabulous
This isn’t a place to dunk on trans people in general. Just ones who do funny things. And be nice to your fellow kiwis damn it.
 
This isn’t a place to dunk on trans people in general. Just ones who do funny things. And be nice to your fellow kiwis damn it.
It was tongue in cheek - I find the “rar rar fucking trannies in our toilets o wait not u, gentle friend uwu” hypocritical and also condescending to people who know exactly what they are getting into when they open containment threads like this one.
 
Do most people who interact with you hate you?
No i dont have issues interacting with most people but i cannot get along with everyone.

People that hate me tend to me incel misogynists, neonazis, terfs, transmed types.

Transmedicalists dont like when i expose their fraud, cult-members dont like to be told how they are wrong. An FtM abomination i chatted with on whisper reallh started to hate me and begun to stalk me, he/she also told me to let my psychiatrist read my vintologi forum.

Online interactions are nice since people cannot do much to you if you piss them off.
 
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It was tongue in cheek - I find the “rar rar fucking trannies in our toilets o wait not u, gentle friend uwu” hypocritical and also condescending to people who know exactly what they are getting into when they open containment threads like this one.
Fair enough. Kinda hard to tell when people are being serious here.

No i dont have issues interacting with most people but i cannot get along with everyone.

People that hate me tend to me incel misogynists, neonazis, terfs, transmed types.

Transmedicalists dont like when i expose their fraud, cult-members dont like to be told how they are wrong. An FtM abomination i chatted with on whisper reallh started to hate me and begun to stalk me, he/she also told me to let my psychiatrist read my vintologi forum.

Online interactions are nice since people cannot do much to you if you piss them off.
What are they wrong about? You do need dysphoria to be trans. Or else anyone can decide they are.
 
No i dont have issues interacting with most people but i cannot get along with everyone.

People that hate me tend to me incel misogynists, neonazis, terfs, transmed types.

Transmedicalists dont like when i expose their fraud, cult-members dont like to be told how they are wrong. An FtM abomination i chatted with on whisper reallh started to hate me and begun to stalk me, he/she also told me to let my psychiatrist read my vintologi forum.

Online interactions are nice since people cannot do much to you if you piss them off.

You're in bad form already. But this isn't about you, it's about trannies.


It was tongue in cheek - I find the “rar rar fucking trannies in our toilets o wait not u, gentle friend uwu” hypocritical and also condescending to people who know exactly what they are getting into when they open containment threads like this one.

Of course it depends on what your reason for disliking trans people is, if its moral, ideological, religious or political etc, but having a logical reason is usually a good basis to present your argument.
For example - There is a huge difference between the gay-based tranny and the AGP.
Blanket hating something or someone doesn't solve issues and unfortunately this is an issue that won't go away and needs to be solved in some manner.

Troons won't come to the table and compromise. They want complete erasure of females.
Transwomen who want to pass, get on with life and fit in are coming to the table so to speak.
I don't care if those ones get called women, have their pronouns respected or can go into female toilets.
I do care if the troons do. I care that there's no standard put upon them, there's no checks and balances, most of them are perverts who hate females, don't pass and want to stick their girldicks were they aren't welcome.
I'm not going to be O.K with a biological male who wants to play female sports, who has delusions that he's a biological female and treats females like they have to keep their mouth shut. I'm also not going to tolerate biology being disregarded for feelings when it comes to law and the safety of people.
I wouldn't make those concessions for anyone. If you want standards, you have to define them and enforce them, otherwise nothing gets solved.

Same goes for people who go to a new country and refuse to learn the language and culture. Learn it or fuck off. Standards and a line in the sand is important.
 
You're in bad form already. But this isn't about you, it's about trannies.




Of course it depends on what your reason for disliking trans people is, if its moral, ideological, religious or political etc, but having a logical reason is usually a good basis to present your argument.
For example - There is a huge difference between the gay-based tranny and the AGP.
Blanket hating something or someone doesn't solve issues and unfortunately this is an issue that won't go away and needs to be solved in some manner.

Troons won't come to the table and compromise. They want complete erasure of females.
Transwomen who want to pass, get on with life and fit in are coming to the table so to speak.
I don't care if those ones get called women, have their pronouns respected or can go into female toilets.
I do care if the troons do. I care that there's no standard put upon them, there's no checks and balances, most of them are perverts who hate females, don't pass and want to stick their girldicks were they aren't welcome.
I'm not going to be O.K with a biological male who wants to play female sports, who has delusions that he's a biological female and treats females like they have to keep their mouth shut. I'm also not going to tolerate biology being disregarded for feelings when it comes to law and the safety of people.
I wouldn't make those concessions for anyone. If you want standards, you have to define them and enforce them, otherwise nothing gets solved.

Same goes for people who go to a new country and refuse to learn the language and culture. Learn it or fuck off. Standards and a line in the sand is important.

Everybody is cool with trans rights til somebody fucks it up for them IRL. it’s not like homophobe grandpa realizes he was wrong after meeting mr gay bro next door, or “wow maybe those chinks aren’t so bad after all, this food is delicious!” I used to be on the trans women are women train til my AGP ex trooned out and got really creepy and totally unrealistic about bathrooms, periods, participating in women’s sports, and other stuff that is too OT/ :powerlevel: to justify sharing. Unfortunately I believe gen pop are unable to distinguish between confused gay transsexuals and AGP creeps/mentally ill/general jackasses so it’s a zero tolerance stance from me. take Canada - self-ID as a concept, and fully tolerant women’s sports/spaces as another concept, are mutually irreconcilable because of dicks like JY, rogaine ogre, and McKinnon.
 
What are they wrong about? You do need dysphoria to be trans. Or else anyone can decide they are.
No its about transitioning medically, you are not trans if you are unwilling to persue medical transition.


 
Fair enough. Kinda hard to tell when people are being serious here.


What are they wrong about? You do need dysphoria to be trans. Or else anyone can decide they are.
So what would you call someone without dysphoria who gets HRT and SRS?

I'd like to point out that dysphoria can stem from many sources, many people aren't "born with it". Let's take this tranny I found the other day as an example. In this image, Ebony is clearly saying he is dysphoric:
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But then he goes and posts things which make it clear whatever dysphoria he may feel stems from a porn obsession:
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Saying that dysphoria and a desire to transition is all you need to be trans is still letting fetishists through the gates.

On a side note, this person is also transracial. He feels not only gender dysphoria but also racial dysphoria lol.
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It's not unfair; it's a well deserved stigma. The only other one is male circumcission. And like transition surgery, practically all studies show that it should not be done.

What other medically approved surgeries have lowered health outcomes after than before?
What other medically approved surgeries have experts lose their job when they point to the scientific studies that show that the outcomes are lowered, or when they try and create new studies that would expose this.



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Not only that, but exploratory studies have shown that schizophrenia medication alleviates most gender dysphoria cases, but that had to be shut down quickly of course. I don't have the link with me at the moment, but I linked it before in other trans threads on the farms, so anyone really curious can look it up.
So... it’s likely that a LOT of trans kids just have too much freedom on the internet and need to be monitored better, especially if they have autism. If I had a kid and saw them on r/egg_irl I’d immediately revoke or at least limit the sites they can be on. If the feelings of being trans persisted, then maybe I’d take it seriously.
 
I don't hate all trans -- but probably most of them. I don't care if men want to present themselves as women, but I will not call them women (I'm okay with calling them trans women), even the non AGP ones and even if they pass. They are not women and will never be women. They don't belong in women's spaces. Period. They can dress and be as feminine as they want but they cannot change their sex. I think you have to keep the rules pretty simple. You can't say no men allowed, except for these handpicked few we think are cool. There is no way to legislate something like that. So, we need to stick to the basics. In things that are segregated by sex (bathrooms, sports, etc.) they should stick to the sex they were born as. Doesn't matter if they've gotten SRS or not. They are still and always will be men. (And vice versa for the trans men.) We are not rewriting the laws of biology for people with a mental illness. That's insane in and of itself. If they don't feel safe going into a men's room, well, they need to change male culture -- not force women to make sacrifices for them. And, like other misogynistic men, most troons absolutely expect women to put their needs first. I refuse to be guilted into it with arguments of "think of the poor gay trans who just want to live quiet lives". Sure, they exist, but I'm not opening the floodgates to 90% of AGP troons in order to cater to the 10% who are decent.
 
I don't hate all trans -- but probably most of them. I don't care if men want to present themselves as women, but I will not call them women (I'm okay with calling them trans women), even the non AGP ones and even if they pass. They are not women and will never be women. They don't belong in women's spaces. Period. They can dress and be as feminine as they want but they cannot change their sex. I think you have to keep the rules pretty simple. You can't say no men allowed, except for these handpicked few we think are cool. There is no way to legislate something like that. So, we need to stick to the basics. In things that are segregated by sex (bathrooms, sports, etc.) they should stick to the sex they were born as. Doesn't matter if they've gotten SRS or not. They are still and always will be men. (And vice versa for the trans men.) We are not rewriting the laws of biology for people with a mental illness. That's insane in and of itself. If they don't feel safe going into a men's room, well, they need to change male culture -- not force women to make sacrifices for them. And, like other misogynistic men, most troons absolutely expect women to put their needs first. I refuse to be guilted into it with arguments of "think of the poor gay trans who just want to live quiet lives". Sure, they exist, but I'm not opening the floodgates to 90% of AGP troons in order to cater to the 10% who are decent.
Personally I wouldn’t care if I shared a bathroom with a non rat king trans woman. Like I’m pretty certain they wouldn’t want you to know they’re trans anyway. We have stalls for a reason.
 
No its about transitioning medically, you are not trans if you are unwilling to persue medical transition.


I was curious what "trannymax" subreddit would be about. As I browsed it I found sone of your posts (of your now suspended account).


I genuinely think what you are doing is at the very best shortsighted, but more likely, evil, as you try to convince other people to transition and post step-plans on how to do so.

You are preying on vulnerable people and giving terrible advice to desperate people.

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I genuinely think what you are doing is at the very best shortsighted, but more likely, evil, as you try to convince other people to transition and post step-plans on how to do so.

You are preying on vulnerable people and giving terrible advice to desperate people.

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This is me powerleveling, but saying the first step of transitioning is watching a gender bending hentai. If this isn't AGP behaviour, then I don't know what is.

Edit: Clarification for @Lemmingwise, by AGP I mean autogynephilia.
 
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