Shy Hard 2: Shy Harder

[SU 390]

he's obviously not happy because he still posts there and feels the need to show off for them with his whole "mole" plan

Perhaps. He's probably still there for the fuck of it. Who knows?

Because only on a forum where most of the members have never touched a woman in their lives, marrying an obese foreign girl so she can escape her overcontrolling parents is seen as a victory.

And she probably doesn't put out, either. Otherwise he wouldn't have 10,000 posts on a Loveshy forum and post dick pics on other forums under the same name, then go on a secret undercover mission in the land of Kiwi's to prove how much of a cool dude he is to his virgin buddies. Whatever it is he's doing, things probably still aren't working out the way he wants them too, or else he would greatly diminish his online activity.

Fonduman is not a happy man. Happy men don't weigh 400 pounds, or join forums to discuss their defective dicks.

It's starting to make sense now that you put it that way.

 

[mooooo]

Because only on a forum where most of the members have never touched a woman in their lives, marrying an obese foreign girl so she can escape her overcontrolling parents is seen as a victory.

Srsly? She's 5'6 and 150lbs. I'd call her slightly chubby maybe. You have no concept of perspective if you'd call her obese.

And she probably doesn't put out, either. Otherwise he wouldn't have 10,000 posts on a Loveshy forum and post dick pics on other forums under the same name,

Even if not getting laid led to that happening, I had 10,000 posts and had posted those pics before I even met her, so...
Anyway, she's pretty willing to put out. She's hornier than me most of the time even. I'm currently trying to get her to stop groping my dick in public. At least she's subtle about it.

then go on a secret undercover mission in the land of Kiwi's to prove how much of a cool dude he is to his virgin buddies. Whatever it is he's doing, things probably still aren't working out the way he wants them too, or else he would greatly diminish his online activity.

Saney has already said the "mole" thing was an error. I temporarily developed a modicum of respect since he could recognise and admit a mistake, but I'd say all the childish ratings and stuff has removed it since.

Fonduman is not a happy man. Happy men don't weigh 400 pounds, or join forums to discuss their defective dicks.

280lbs. I know I'm fat. Why are you guys on such a crusade against fat people? You have issues.
Anyway, no one is "happy" continually. Happiness is something that creeps up on you in quiet moments. You might be doing something, or lost in thought, then you suddenly remember what you have, and you feel happy. Not something that's just constantly there.

But I'm content. I'm quite proud of myself actually. I realised halfway through the Physics degree that academia is a terrible career choice. Competitive, high pressure, mediocre pay, vulnerable to funding fluctuations. I was also a lonely virgin, and claustrophobic living in my mum's house. Well, I was moved out during university, but it was temporary. I had a list of things I wanted: A girl, a well paying job I liked, my own place, a car. I had worked in a restaurant as a kind of waiter for 3 years part time previously, and I was terrified of ending up there permanently. I hated that place. The notion of a good job in my position and the economy at the time was far off. Just finding a job I really liked was far off, never mind getting it. And a girl was even further, because I couldn't actively pursue one.
Then in a few years, through my own effort, I've gotten everything I wanted.

If anything, I'm now lacking goals, because I succeeded in all my previous ones. But as people here have seen probably, I've made buying a house my next goal, and becoming an expert at my job. Although my supervisor is already impressed with me, he says in reviews. But that just means I'm good for my experience. I'd like to be good in an absolute sense, rather than simply relative to my position.

I used to want to lose weight, but when I raise the idea my gf says she doesn't want me losing too much because she likes me cuddly, so I'm not sure. Maybe a bit. It's not high on my priorities.

I think it's probably the people here who are unhappy. There's something in all this that suggests you're all trying to distract yourselves. There's maybe some elements of the dysfunctionality of these lolcows that you resonate with, that mirrors a part of yourself, and you attack it because you hate part of yourself. Why do you think you have to try and twist everything to suit this hate? Dating a girl online is suddenly a foreign order bride. A chubby girl is obese. She must not be putting out. She must just be escaping her parents. All these incel/LS stereotypes. It's amazing lengths to go through to try and maintain a worldview. This need to deride and hate must originate in your life somewhere.

 

[SU 390]

280lbs. I know I'm fat. Why are you guys on such a crusade against fat people? You have issues.

Coming from someone who's part of a forum which 95% of the userbase is anti-fat/overweight women, that's a compliment even from you.

 

[Durable Mike Malloy]

Srsly? She's 5'6 and 150lbs. I'd call her slightly chubby maybe. You have no concept of perspective if you'd call her obese.


Even if not getting laid led to that happening, I had 10,000 posts and had posted those pics before I even met her, so...
Anyway, she's pretty willing to put out. She's hornier than me most of the time even. I'm currently trying to get her to stop groping my dick in public. At least she's subtle about it.

Saney has already said the "mole" thing was an error. I temporarily developed a modicum of respect since he could recognise and admit a mistake, but I'd say all the childish ratings and stuff has removed it since.


280lbs. I know I'm fat. Why are you guys on such a crusade against fat people? You have issues.
Anyway, no one is "happy" continually. Happiness is something that creeps up on you in quiet moments. You might be doing something, or lost in thought, then you suddenly remember what you have, and you feel happy. Not something that's just constantly there.

But I'm content. I'm quite proud of myself actually. I realised halfway through the Physics degree that academia is a terrible career choice. Competitive, high pressure, mediocre pay, vulnerable to funding fluctuations. I was also a lonely virgin, and claustrophobic living in my mum's house. Well, I was moved out during university, but it was temporary. I had a list of things I wanted: A girl, a well paying job I liked, my own place, a car. I had worked in a restaurant as a kind of waiter for 3 years part time previously, and I was terrified of ending up there permanently. I hated that place. The notion of a good job in my position and the economy at the time was far off. Just finding a job I really liked was far off, never mind getting it. And a girl was even further, because I couldn't actively pursue one.
Then in a few years, through my own effort, I've gotten everything I wanted.

If anything, I'm now lacking goals, because I succeeded in all my previous ones. But as people here have seen probably, I've made buying a house my next goal, and becoming an expert at my job. Although my supervisor is already impressed with me, he says in reviews. But that just means I'm good for my experience. I'd like to be good in an absolute sense, rather than simply relative to my position.

I used to want to lose weight, but when I raise the idea my gf says she doesn't want me losing too much because she likes me cuddly, so I'm not sure. Maybe a bit. It's not high on my priorities.

I think it's probably the people here who are unhappy. There's something in all this that suggests you're all trying to distract yourselves. There's maybe some elements of the dysfunctionality of these lolcows that you resonate with, that mirrors a part of yourself, and you attack it because you hate part of yourself. Why do you think you have to try and twist everything to suit this hate? Dating a girl online is suddenly a foreign order bride. A chubby girl is obese. She must not be putting out. She must just be escaping her parents. All these incel/LS stereotypes. It's amazing lengths to go through to try and maintain a worldview. This need to deride and hate must originate in your life somewhere.

A Man and a Lion were discussing the relative strength of men and lions in general. The Man contended that he and his fellows were stronger than lions by reason of their greater intelligence. "Come now with me," he cried, "and I will soon prove that I am right." So he took him into the public gardens and showed him a statue of Hercules overcoming the Lion and tearing his mouth in two.

"That is all very well," said the Lion, "but proves nothing, for it was a man who made the statue."

Moral: We can easily represent things as we wish them to be.

 

[Saney]

Saney has already said the "mole" thing was an error. I temporarily developed a modicum of respect since he could recognise and admit a mistake, but I'd say all the childish ratings and stuff has removed it since.

What stuff?

 

[Saney]

@mooooo, why not have Enginehead post here, so we can hear her out? No one's going to insult her or comment on her weight.

 

[mooooo]

A Man and a Lion were discussing the relative strength of men and lions in general. The Man contended that he and his fellows were stronger than lions by reason of their greater intelligence. "Come now with me," he cried, "and I will soon prove that I am right." So he took him into the public gardens and showed him a statue of Hercules overcoming the Lion and tearing his mouth in two.

"That is all very well," said the Lion, "but proves nothing, for it was a man who made the statue."

Moral: We can easily represent things as we wish them to be.

What I find interesting is how different people process it in different ways.
Your conclusions seem to come from an Ni standpoint from this story. Ni likes to stay vague. It likes paradoxes. One thing, can be other things. It avoids fixed definitions. To it, the moral is that we see things as we expect to see them. Our pre-determined conclusions affect how we see the world.

But from my Ti standpoint, I drill down and form specific principles from the story. I see two sets of conclusions here. "Strength" is a parent class, in a sense. It has multiple possible derived contexts and more specific meanings. It can be physical strength, mental strength, it can be success as a species, etc.
So the Lion and the Man are both talking about strength, but they decide which sub-class of strength to refer to, to suit them. So it's not that they're twisting anything, but that they're not really talking about the same thing.

Then the second moral is that media/propaganda means nothing, which is obvious enough. Like, some feminists seem to think their ideas of all men being violent rapists is verified because men are frequently portrayed as such on TV lol.

So I don't completely agree with the Ni standpoint, because it takes the personal bias as some kind of given, implicit property of cognition that is inescapable. From my viewpoint, we can avoid twisting the world to our perspective by being clear about exactly what our definitions are, what the limitations of these definitions are, and how they can be measurably verified critically.

 

[CatParty]

What I find interesting is how different people process it in different ways.
Your conclusions seem to come from an Ni standpoint from this story. Ni likes to stay vague. It likes paradoxes. One thing, can be other things. It avoids fixed definitions. To it, the moral is that we see things as we expect to see them. Our pre-determined conclusions affect how we see the world.

But from my Ti standpoint, I drill down and form specific principles from the story. I see two sets of conclusions here. "Strength" is a parent class, in a sense. It has multiple possible derived contexts and more specific meanings. It can be physical strength, mental strength, it can be success as a species, etc.
So the Lion and the Man are both talking about strength, but they decide which sub-class of strength to refer to, to suit them. So it's not that they're twisting anything, but that they're not really talking about the same thing.

Then the second moral is that media/propaganda means nothing, which is obvious enough. Like, some feminists seem to think their ideas of all men being violent rapists is verified because men are frequently portrayed as such on TV lol.

So I don't completely agree with the Ni standpoint, because it takes the personal bias as some kind of given, implicit property of cognition that is inescapable. From my viewpoint, we can avoid twisting the world to our perspective by being clear about exactly what our definitions are, what the limitations of these definitions are, and how they can be measurably verified critically.

did you get a fat chick mail order bride on discount?

 

[mooooo]

Coming from someone who's part of a forum which 95% of the userbase is anti-fat/overweight women, that's a compliment even from you.

Admittedly, that's something I don't really get about the forum, and seems like a valid criticism. I can understand not being attracted to them, but I don't understand the vitriol. But ignorance and hate is common surrounding obesity on the internet. Perhaps it is in real life too, but people are too polite to say. It's easy to oversimplify it if you don't have the issue yourself.

 

[CatParty]

Admittedly, that's something I don't really get about the forum, and seems like a valid criticism. I can understand not being attracted to them, but I don't understand the vitriol. But ignorance and hate is common surrounding obesity on the internet. Perhaps it is in real life too, but people are too polite to say. It's easy to oversimplify it if you don't have the issue yourself.

Eat your feelings

 

[Durable Mike Malloy]

What I find interesting is how different people process it in different ways.
Your conclusions seem to come from an Ni standpoint from this story. Ni likes to stay vague. It likes paradoxes. One thing, can be other things. It avoids fixed definitions. To it, the moral is that we see things as we expect to see them. Our pre-determined conclusions affect how we see the world.

But from my Ti standpoint, I drill down and form specific principles from the story. I see two sets of conclusions here. "Strength" is a parent class, in a sense. It has multiple possible derived contexts and more specific meanings. It can be physical strength, mental strength, it can be success as a species, etc.
So the Lion and the Man are both talking about strength, but they decide which sub-class of strength to refer to, to suit them. So it's not that they're twisting anything, but that they're not really talking about the same thing.

Then the second moral is that media/propaganda means nothing, which is obvious enough. Like, some feminists seem to think their ideas of all men being violent rapists is verified because men are frequently portrayed as such on TV lol.

So I don't completely agree with the Ni standpoint, because it takes the personal bias as some kind of given, implicit property of cognition that is inescapable. From my viewpoint, we can avoid twisting the world to our perspective by being clear about exactly what our definitions are, what the limitations of these definitions are, and how they can be measurably verified critically.

If you wanted to know what I meant, you could've just asked me. Doesn't it get lonely over there on your punctum archimedis?

edit: @mooooo , nice. Do you also shit on the 60s and harbor an unwholesome fondness for Bratz dolls?
Protip: MylarBalloonFan is a very poor role model in a multitude of ways.

 

[Saney]

@mooooo, what are your thoughts on Fschmidt? Do you agree with Dante that he's a good man?

 

[mooooo]

@mooooo, what are your thoughts on Fschmidt? Do you agree with Dante that he's a good man?

I wouldn't say I agree with all his views, but I respect his reasoning because it's usually logical.

He has a certain disdain to modern western people, and I think he wouldn't think twice about screwing them all over. I don't think I'd count that as justified myself, but I understand what his reasoning is behind it. To him, morality is a code of conduct that only applies to other moral people, so he's moral within his own definitions of it at least. Consistency is always good. So I would have a slightly different definition of morality to him. It would be pointless to ask me if he's moral, if he said he's moral, when we'd be talking about different things. If you asked him if he's moral by your own definition, he'd probably call himself immoral too.

 

[CatParty]

I wouldn't say I agree with all his views, but I respect his reasoning because it's usually logical.

He has a certain disdain to modern western people, and I think he wouldn't think twice about screwing them all over. I don't think I'd count that as justified myself, but I understand what his reasoning is behind it. To him, morality is a code of conduct that only applies to other moral people, so he's moral within his own definitions of it at least. Consistency is always good. So I would have a slightly different definition of morality to him. It would be pointless to ask me if he's moral, if he said he's moral, when we'd be talking about different things. If you asked him if he's moral by your own definition, he'd probably call himself immoral too.

can you eat more hot dogs faster than fschmidt?

 

[Saney]

I wouldn't say I agree with all his views, but I respect his reasoning because it's usually logical.

He has a certain disdain to modern western people, and I think he wouldn't think twice about screwing them all over. I don't think I'd count that as justified myself, but I understand what his reasoning is behind it. To him, morality is a code of conduct that only applies to other moral people, so he's moral within his own definitions of it at least. Consistency is always good. So I would have a slightly different definition of morality to him. It would be pointless to ask me if he's moral, if he said he's moral, when we'd be talking about different things. If you asked him if he's moral by your own definition, he'd probably call himself immoral too.

And do you agree with Dante when he says that women want to be raped and adore rapists?

 

[SU 390]

I wouldn't say I agree with all his views, but I respect his reasoning because it's usually logical.

He has a certain disdain to modern western people, and I think he wouldn't think twice about screwing them all over. I don't think I'd count that as justified myself, but I understand what his reasoning is behind it. To him, morality is a code of conduct that only applies to other moral people, so he's moral within his own definitions of it at least. Consistency is always good. So I would have a slightly different definition of morality to him. It would be pointless to ask me if he's moral, if he said he's moral, when we'd be talking about different things. If you asked him if he's moral by your own definition, he'd probably call himself immoral too.

You can't call yourself moral by screwing other people who haven't done shit to you at all. I hate today's culture from time to time as someone who lives in Western Society as much as any guy who can't get laid, but fucking people over who are trying to survive in this dog eat dog society isn't the way to go.

 

[drtoboggan]

can you eat more hot dogs faster than fschmidt?

I think Frank is Jewish. Hebrew National for him.
Anyway, Love Shy Dude, got any hobbies? I'm glad you have a girlfriend at least. You're like a love shy success story.

 

[mooooo]

And do you agree with Dante when he says that women want to be raped and adore rapists?

I'm not sure. I think they have a tendency to enjoy domination and the sensation of danger. I think a guy who exudes the threat of violence will draw women, but I'm not sure I'd go so far to say that they enjoy when it is explicitly carried out.

I'll say that when a guy hits a woman, they'll often be surprisingly forgiving partly because there's some element of it that is attractive, but that it's a balancing act subconsciously, a threshold of violence that they'll reject. So if you're a threatening guy who lashes out briefly, say, every 6 months, you'll probably retain the adoration of your girlfriend, but if you routinely beat her to a pulp she'll get the hell out of there quickly.

You can't call yourself moral by screwing other people who haven't done shit to you at all. I hate today's culture from time to time as someone who lives in Western Society as much as any guy who can't get laid, but fucking people over who are trying to survive in this dog eat dog society isn't the way to go.

I don't care about telling people what's right and what's wrong, or how they should act. They can do what they want. I just want consistency. If he defined morality in a different way than you, and then calls himself moral by that definition, and it fits, then I'm fine with it.

 

[SU 390]

I don't care about telling people what's right and what's wrong, or how they should act. They can do what they want. I just want consistency. If he defined morality in a different way than you, and then calls himself moral by that definition, and it fits, then I'm fine with it.

But you're part of the society that he hates so much. So you're okay with him screwing you as well over as long as he stays consistent? That doesn't make sense at all.

 

[CatParty]

I don't care about telling people what's right and what's wrong, or how they should act. They can do what they want. I just want consistency. If he defined morality in a different way than you, and then calls himself moral by that definition, and it fits, then I'm fine with it.

strict consistency sounds pretty autistic. where are you on the spectrum?