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So I was reading Wikipedia's page on TROS and they said they didn't having test screenings, only showed it to friends and family, but the leaks mention a test screening? Is the leaker a friend of these people? Is so that is funny
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Wikipedia is also edited by a lot of speds and spergs, some of them probably under the Rat's orders to try and downplay the disaster by confirming JarJar's lies about test screenings.
Because you know they have to have test screened the film at least; it's basic movie 101 to at least have dailies or work prints. Now if the glue huffers at Disney didn't sit in and comment, that's on them.
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Also having coordinated private showings for any non-public audience is a test screening, even if the standards for entry are close social relations to the producers instead of random selection/raffle/whatever they do to fill actual test screenings with the plebs.
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For some reason I had thought that Wikipedia had adopted stricter standards. But then I realized null likes to make fun of them. No idea how I got that impression.
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Not so much that as Abrams and his ball-polishers are being intentionally vague and misleading. A test screening is a gauge of audience reaction to, bare minimum, a rough cut. What the leaks imply -- showing select scenes or sequences -- are focus group and usability tests. He said there were no test screenings for general audiences and that may be true, but that's not a statement of if there was any focus group/usability testing.
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Here’s Daisy Ridley declaring “ORANGE MAN AND BOJO BAD!”
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'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' Star Daisy Ridley Says 'Every Sane Person' Has an Issue with Trump
English actress and "Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker star Daisy Ridley" said in an interview that "everyone has an issue with Trump – every sane person anyway.”
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The first thing I thought was: "Oh, that means the Star Wars Technical Commentaries article on hyperspace can't be canon anymore."
You said before that you don't mind either way, but this seems to be another example of JJ going in a more explicitly fantasy direction. The ambiguity that allowed for autistic speculation like the one above is now gone.
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Here’s Daisy Ridley declaring “ORANGE MAN AND BOJO BAD!”
'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' Star Daisy Ridley Says 'Every Sane Person' Has an Issue with Trump
English actress and "Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker star Daisy Ridley" said in an interview that "everyone has an issue with Trump – every sane person anyway.”
Quite the bold strategy to give reason for Trump fans not to go see your movie Miss Daisy.
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She's doing everything she can to make she has a career in Hollywood after Star Wars. It won't work.Here’s Daisy Ridley declaring “ORANGE MAN AND BOJO BAD!”
'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' Star Daisy Ridley Says 'Every Sane Person' Has an Issue with Trump
English actress and "Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker star Daisy Ridley" said in an interview that "everyone has an issue with Trump – every sane person anyway.”
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yeah she's going to get hamel tier tightcasted
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You know, for all the hate the prequel trilogy gets, the fact is they weren't "bad" movies... just insanely flawed due to incompetence. Hell, half the hate could have been avoided by a few simple changes. Tone down JarJar, for one. I didn't hate ALL the Gungans, but JarJar was just too much. He was dialed to 11 when he should have been dialed back to an 8. Remember this guy?
Imagine if they'd replaced JarJar with him. Or made JarJar a halfway point between what we got (An utter sped clown) and this guy. The character would have been clumsy but not clownish, his voice would have been more tolerable, and he would have been so much less insufferably incompetent.
Maybe give Jake Lloyd a bit more direction, even though I thought his performance was fine. HE WAS 9 YEARS OLD, FFS! You think kids are actually GOOD at acting? Fucks sake, they're tolerable at best.
Make Anakin less of a whiny, entitled sped. The moment Padme told him "You're not all powerful, Anakin!" and he REEEEEs out "WELL I SHOULD BE!" just really made me detest Christensen's performance and George's writing and direction for the entire character. He was somewhat better in episode 3, but episode 2 set a really low bar for that achievement so take that for what it's worth.
Maybe cut out Boba Fett entirely, he really served as nothing but really lame fanservice and did nothing to make the character any better. He was better as a mysterious faceless badass, AotC just really didn't have to have him in it.
I'd also overhaul the pacing of AotC entirely. The movie wasn't great, but it was salvageable with some editing, rewritten scenes, and reshoots.
Really, the Prequels could have been salvaged with a better director (Such as Spielberg), a few reshoots, a couple of character tweaks, and some editing. But sadly, I think they were STILL doomed to be hated. Why? Well, following an act like the OT is gonna be one tall order. Fucking hell, I'd have been TERRIFIED to write the prequels because people spent 30 years fleshing out their own headcanons and speculating on shit, which set their expectations. George could never meet those expectations, I doubt anyone truly could have. But he certainly could have done better.
Imagine if they'd replaced JarJar with him. Or made JarJar a halfway point between what we got (An utter sped clown) and this guy. The character would have been clumsy but not clownish, his voice would have been more tolerable, and he would have been so much less insufferably incompetent.
Maybe give Jake Lloyd a bit more direction, even though I thought his performance was fine. HE WAS 9 YEARS OLD, FFS! You think kids are actually GOOD at acting? Fucks sake, they're tolerable at best.
Make Anakin less of a whiny, entitled sped. The moment Padme told him "You're not all powerful, Anakin!" and he REEEEEs out "WELL I SHOULD BE!" just really made me detest Christensen's performance and George's writing and direction for the entire character. He was somewhat better in episode 3, but episode 2 set a really low bar for that achievement so take that for what it's worth.
Maybe cut out Boba Fett entirely, he really served as nothing but really lame fanservice and did nothing to make the character any better. He was better as a mysterious faceless badass, AotC just really didn't have to have him in it.
I'd also overhaul the pacing of AotC entirely. The movie wasn't great, but it was salvageable with some editing, rewritten scenes, and reshoots.
Really, the Prequels could have been salvaged with a better director (Such as Spielberg), a few reshoots, a couple of character tweaks, and some editing. But sadly, I think they were STILL doomed to be hated. Why? Well, following an act like the OT is gonna be one tall order. Fucking hell, I'd have been TERRIFIED to write the prequels because people spent 30 years fleshing out their own headcanons and speculating on shit, which set their expectations. George could never meet those expectations, I doubt anyone truly could have. But he certainly could have done better.
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Excellent. I see too many people on the right defend Disney Wars simply because "Disney is a wholesome all-american company". Hopefully this makes them change their tune a bit... Then again, Daisy saying "problematic" things about genders and Boyega isn't enough to deter the left... Guess only time will tell if Ridley's shit is truly polarizing or not... And speaking of time:
ITS DAY 9! ONLY 9 DAYS LEFT UNTIL IX RELEASES IN MOST OF EUROPE!
The loss of ambiguity is another thing that greatly bothers me about Disney-Lucasfilm's current management. I'm not sure how many are aware of this, but ever since TLJ, several Lucasfilm reps are taking a more pro-active role on Twitter in dismissing fan theories and discussion by answering questions as quickly as possible, leaving almost no room for speculation. Like people speculating on species or character parentage. A notable example was Hidalgo initally trying to dismiss any connection between Rey and Palpatine by saying Palpatine never had or made kids. Part of me wonders if this is due to the backlash caused by nu-fans getting mad about none of their Snoke theories turning out to be true. Would this be Lucasfilm's attempt at trying to stop angry theory spergs from being disappointed or something?
Agreed. Also Tarpal even has more normal-looking features than the rest of the gungans. Its a shame really.
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I remember that while a lot of people were hopeful, a huge number of people were worried about it, for a variety of reasons, ranging from fears they would sanitize the series to concerns over who they'd appoint to manage it. There was a shockingly common belief that without Lucas, there'd be problems just due to the brain behind the franchise being chained and Disney being more risk-averse. So when Disney was lining up to buy Lucasfilm, the fact that some people were hopeful sort of makes sense.
It's also rather critical to note that Disney of 2012 is a completely different beast from Disney of 2019. Disney has bought up a gigantic amount of networks and IPs since 2012, and a lot of the problems endemic in their catalogue now weren't as common as they are now. It's possible that due to sheer size, and the fact that the the insane leftist infestation of Sci-Fi was well underway at this point, that Lucasfilm was always destined for a fate like this once Disney bought it, but I think the people who were hopeful about it ultimately just interested in what changes could come.
What a fitting ending for the series, too.
An unmarked grave on a planet Luke and Anakin both fucking loathed, abandoned by everyone who possibly could have cared.
One of the things that jumped out at me about the old Clone Wars CGI series is that it really helped flesh Jar-Jar out as a character, and got across that while Jar-Jar was a clumsy goof, he was always well-meaning and learned a lot of important things from Qui-Gon and Anakin. In more than a few cases, he goes above and beyond despite the fact that he's basically a Star Wars version of a Space Station 13 Clown, and while I'm not entirely sure that was the point, there's quite a few times his being who he is saves the day and it's way less obnoxious than it is in Episode I.
So there's ample evidence you're absolutely right about that.
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It's kind of like the ending of Red Dawn, lol.
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The episode where Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Dooku end up captured by Hondo's crew immediately springs to mind. But the comedy there was entirely self-aware due to the clones knowing exactly who Jar-Jar is and what he's capable of, and pointing him at the pirates while ducking for cover.
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"We will destroy Star Wars, then when it is done and even the EU is ashes, then you have my permission to die."
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You can't make true sequels unless you respect the original literary source material.
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They were OK. The first one was boring. Me and my friends were drunk when we saw the other two in the movie theater, and we had a blast.
The prequels have a lot of unintentional comedy in them, like when Yoda starts doing space kung fu or whatever the hell that was on Saruman, and Anakin ranting about sand. I'm okay with this, I also like MST3K
I didn't understand the whole thing about obsessed fanboys camping outside to see The Phantom Menace, because in 1999 adults were still expected to behave like adults, and nerds were still pushed into lockers.
It's gotten crazy since then. The whole "nerd culture" schtick is about massive global corporations selling endless remakes of the same product to doughy manchildren who refuse to grow up:
My kid liked the JJ Abrams Star War for a while, before losing all interest and moving on to Paw Patrol. JJ Wars is worse than the Phantom Menace though.
Phantom is a bad movie, but at least it's an actual movie. It has an original story and tries to show you things you haven't seen before. It's not a remake/soft reboot of the original trilogy. It's an interesting failure.
The Force Awakens (had to Google it even though I've seen it several times) is like a really big budget pastiche of the real Star Wars, because that's exactly what it is.
It's got as much depth as the lenticular 3D picture of Jesus my Mom has. It only exists because the execs at Disney want more money. That's fine, showbusiness is a business after all. But there used to be a creative tension between the guys who finance movies and the guys who make them. Sometimes this resulted in groundbreaking stuff, like the original Star Wars
Not any more (in blockbusters, anyway). If Star Wars didn't already exist and George Lucas was a young filmmaker today, he'd never be allowed to spend lots of studio money on a brand new science fiction IP. They'd have him try to do a soft reboot of something that audiences have already demonstrated a market for - Buck Rogers maybe. But with a sassy feminist Twiki and a snarky, flat-chested Wilma Deering (who is also better than Buck in every way), because it's current year and eye candy is racist against women or something
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A reboot of Buck Rogers would be fascinating, considering how much of it was rooted in previous decades' zeitgeist. Fun fact: originally the character wasn't an astronaut, but a mining engineer and was named Anthony Rogers.
Eh, who am I kidding, they'd fuck it up. At this point I'm glad the Honor Harrington film adaptation died, because I have no fucking faith in Hollywood not to screw it up.
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Honestly, I'd give the Buck Rogers project to a devoted indie filmmaker. Someone who, ya know, knows the source material and actually gives a fuck about it. I'd LOVE a resurgence of the era of goofy retro scifi serials. Buck Rogers is so iconic that even if you know almost nothing about the actual show you still know the name Buck Rogers and instantly associate it with Captain Kirk style space heroism.
God it'd be glorious. Fishbowl helmets and shiny silver space suits, bright flashing buttons on every piece of machinery, no fucks given about cheese levels so long as everyone is having fun, zany villains, scantily clad but still classy women as eye candy, corny one liners and comically expository dialog, random made up word riddled pseudoscientific nonsense.... fuck I miss Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon.
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