US Hillary Clinton emerges as top choice of Democratic voters in Harvard-Harris presidential poll - Poll finds Clinton edges Biden, Sanders


She’s not running for president — yet — but Hillary Clinton was the top choice for Democratic voters in the Harvard-Harris national poll released last week.

Mrs. Clinton drew 21%, followed by former Vice President Joseph R. Biden with 20%, when registered Democrats were asked whom they would support for the 2020 party presidential nod if she and former Secretary of State John Kerry were added to the mix.

Placing third in the hypothetical race was Vermont Sen. Bernard Sanders at 12%, followed by Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren at 9% and ex-New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg at 7%.

The online survey of 1,859 voters was conducted Nov. 27-29, a few days after Mr. Bloomberg entered the race, by the Harris Poll, and released by the Center for American Political Studies at Harvard.

In the current primary field without Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Biden led the pack with 29%, followed by Mr. Sanders with 16%, Ms. Warren with 13% and Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg with 8%. Both Mr. Bloomberg and Mr. Kerry drew 5%.

The 2016 Democratic presidential candidate, Mrs. Clinton told BBC last month that she had no plans to enter the 2020 contest, although she added, “I never say never to anything.”

“I will certainly tell you, I’m under enormous pressure from many, many, many people to think about it,” she said. “But as of this moment, sitting here in this studio talking to you, that is absolutely not in my plans.”

The former secretary of state lost to Republican Donald Trump in 2016 by 304 to 227 electoral votes, although she carried the popular vote by about 3 million.
 
What a fucking lie. How could Biden even pull in ANY number since everybody knows he is a kiddie rapist? Warren makes far more sense and it's obvious the "9%" number is too low.

I want Hillary to reappear in season 2 so bad.

Last time she turned up to battle Trump-kun, it was the most epic arc ever.
Then for season 3 please battle Trump Jr and Chelsea. The image of a golden Trump Jr standing over Chelsea's dismembered corpse will totally spur on a good return arc for HRC in season 4. Give it a twist where Chelsea isn't dead and the 2 Clintons run TOGETHER. And lose to a TJ2 combo of Jr and Barron.

Super Hyped.
When are they gonna make a movie about this ya think?
 
What a fucking lie. How could Biden even pull in ANY number since everybody knows he is a kiddie rapist? Warren makes far more sense and it's obvious the "9%" number is too low.


When are they gonna make a movie about this ya think?

Some one needs to tell Tim Lim this idea
 
Yes, after the voters have shown their general dissatisfaction with the detached political elite by sending in what they considered a maverick who was to "drain the swamp", send in the one woman who's the very definition of detached political elite against the same guy again. This is a good strategic choice and I can't imagine it backfiring at all.

Also I'm sure she got only more healthier and vital in the last four years, as old people often do.
 
Honestly, considering TDS and the increased motivation for dem voter turnout, Hillary may very well end up being president. Remember, Trump didn't even win the popular vote. If just a few more democrats in swing states vote this time around, which is highly likely, it could mean Hillary or Biden 2020.
 
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Wow, who could've seen this coming? Not only did the DNC refuse to learn anything, they've got their remaining base living in a full on alternate reality. Only good things can come of this.
 
Honestly, considering TDS and the increased motivation for dem voter turnout, Hillary may very well end up being president. Remember, Trump didn't even win the popular vote. If just a few more democrats in swing states vote this time around, which is highly likely, it could mean Hillary or Biden 2020.
Except that this time, Clinton can't say that Trump will start WW3 and use the nuclear launch codes. She also can't say that he will crash the economy. Bill Clinton will have problems worse than Prince Andrew. Hillary will have big problems in 2020.
 
Honestly, considering TDS and the increased motivation for dem voter turnout, Hillary may very well end up being president. Remember, Trump didn't even win the popular vote. If just a few more democrats in swing states vote this time around, which is highly likely, it could mean Hillary or Biden 2020.
Take out California, a rampantly corrupt state with 0 safeguards to prevent voter fraud and illegals from voting, and what do you know, Trump wins to popular vote too!
 
I am a firm believer in the theory that this entire thing was to garner support for Hillary.
>impeachment begins, every democrat gets BTFOd from the ballot
>nobody can stand up to drump who will save our poor liberal minds!
>Hillary swoops in and saves the day to run against trump and save America!
>still loses to trump

It’s going to fucking happen. I’m not the first to say this but not the last. Explains the Epstein incident, and explains censoring and smearing anything about the Clintons right now.
Mark my fucking words it’ll happen.

And I’ll laugh the entire time it does
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It's a bold strategy Cotton....

I don't see it happening, but who knows in current year.

However, it makes me think [tinfoil hat on] that maybe the entire Burisma/Biden/Impeachment shit is just to normalize the idea that you can't investigate a political opponent for actual honest to goodness crimes. If that's the plan she may run, but without the studies to show enough of America believes that with all the media propaganda, I think she understands she'd be taking a huge risk.

Really, the DoJ should start investigating her now, pre-emptively, just in case (assuming it was as partisan under this president as the last.... no? Hmmmm....)

Regardless of if it's 2020 or 2024, even if another Republican gets in in 24, we can all be assured that the following people (Lemon, Maddow, Fredo, Steltzer, Pelosi, Waters etc etc) will get in front of a camera, faces full of gravitas, and say:

"Our nation's long nightmare is over."
 
Allow me to repeat what I said the last time a "Hillary swoops in to get the nomination" idea was mooted at the farms
Honestly as much as I want to see a full on 2016 rematch, I doubt hillary plans on doing this. The raw agony and humiliation of losing to Trump are just too much for her to willingly want to risk a ten times worse shame of losing to him again after pulling all these strings, which given her own unpopularity and Trump's ability to bounce back from any scandal or drama combined with the distinct lack of utter disaster in his first term is something she has to know is more then likely.

....atleast with this election.

Maybe the plan is to covertly arrange things to utterly fuck up any possible chance the democrats have in order to leave the party in total rout come their defeat in 2020, which is just when she will sweep back in, graciously accept the grovelling apologies, and begin the process of getting herself elected super-duper-for-real in 2024 after having proven that it was totally not her fault she lost in 2016.


....only to lose again to my vengeful 2024 dream team of maximum karmic punishment
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This has happened like 3 or 4 times with her polling, even in the obama primary days. Whenever she is relatively reclusive dems think of her in a vaguely positive way, like "oh yeah, hillary would do a great job." then she starts running for office or is in charge of something and reminds everyone that she is actually a huge fuck up. The more she puts herself out there, the more people dislike her.
 
(Biden in particular can't refrain from sperging out when provoked)

Yeah Fat Jack...ya think ya can do more push-ups than me? Let's hit the floor bitch!!!!

This is how you win elections.

Joe? Try to keep yer fucking dentures in your mouth. It's really fucking humiliating when they drop out on the floor during push-ups. And oh, don't pop a fuckin' eyeball while yer at it.

:drink::drink::drink:
 
It's a bold strategy Cotton....

I don't see it happening, but who knows in current year.

However, it makes me think [tinfoil hat on] that maybe the entire Burisma/Biden/Impeachment shit is just to normalize the idea that you can't investigate a political opponent for actual honest to goodness crimes. If that's the plan she may run, but without the studies to show enough of America believes that with all the media propaganda, I think she understands she'd be taking a huge risk.

Really, the DoJ should start investigating her now, pre-emptively, just in case (assuming it was as partisan under this president as the last.... no? Hmmmm....)

Regardless of if it's 2020 or 2024, even if another Republican gets in in 24, we can all be assured that the following people (Lemon, Maddow, Fredo, Steltzer, Pelosi, Waters etc etc) will get in front of a camera, faces full of gravitas, and say:

"Our nation's long nightmare is over."
There's something really hilarious about the idea that you're such an unmitigated crook that the only idea left to avoid getting prosecuted is to run for president so you can just write off accusations as politically minded.
Like that could premise could probably carry a ninety minute comedy movie. Or maybe an eleven-month long reality show.
 
I’m just amused that the crop of candidates for 2020 is so bad that they’d prefer a two time loser who will get beaten worse than her last failed run for president.
Nah, they still think she's perfect, it's just the Russian hackers and misogyny or whatever. Trust me, I grew up in a hyperliberal area where basically every adult was a Hillary shill in 2016 and blamed everyone else when she lost that November. I had to write a fucking English paper in senior year of high school on how Hillary lost the previous year because muh patriarchy
 
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