DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell - General Discussion

[Kermit the Frog]

DSP's naturally unreliable because in his own words "there's a nugget of truth." The other part of him being unreliable is how he blows everything out of proportion while also trying to claim context; or now completely outright lying to "protect his family." He doesn't get that people would be so nitpicky if he'd be consistent with the shit he says; or that people wouldn't have shit to say if he didn't broadcast future plans. If the Connecticut trip was never discussed, then a tweet comes out with "Hey guys, visiting my parents, didn't want to tell you but I'll be back on x-date" and then "Oh yeah, we got married." It'd come off as a little more sincere than "My parents are doing bad, this may be the last time I get to see them. - WHAT DO YOU MEAN I LIED?! I HAD TO!"

If he could just keep secrets (as in, literally not say shit until it's passed) and then say "Yeah, we did this." If he wouldn't prep the autists, the autists wouldn't go around and look for shit before, during, and after the event. Let it happen, feed your actual fans a bit, and let it pass. That fucking easy, and he can't even do that.

Phil does this because he believes he's way smarter and more clever than he actually is. So whenever he gets the chance to brag about fooling people, he's going to take that opportunity. The problem is, nobody ever believes the obviously bullshit, over the top stories he uses as cover, so they're naturally going to be highly suspicious of Phil's activities. He honestly expects to be showered with praise (money) and told he's such a master manipulator, but instead is confronted for his dishonesty and has to desperately flail around in an attempt to justify himself. No longer is he the smug genius who was 10 steps ahead of everyone, he's a hapless victim of circumstances beyond his control who had to lie to protect himself and his family. Phil would save himself so much unnecessary stress if he were simply honest with people, but he's too greedy and shortsighted to realize this.

Going back to the CT trip and wedding. Had Phil simply said "I haven't seen my parents in 5 years and they haven't met Kat, so I'm taking a week away from streaming to see them", it would have been a perfectly understandable reason. But no, he wanted to squeeze some pity bucks from his piggies, so he felt the need to claim his parents were on the verge of death, he had to see them before it's too late, going so far as to fake cry about it. Then Phil dropped that story like a rock once it wasn't needed anymore and wondered why people were so mad at him for lying. As for the wedding, he could have shared the news in a positive way and left it at that like a normal person, instead he spent his wedding night up on Twitter being a smug asshole about it. Only Phil could turn his wedding, a day most people consider to be among the happiest of their lives, into nothing more than a weird bragging right.

 

[Pargon]

As for the wedding, he could have shared the news in a positive way and left it at that like a normal person, instead he spent his wedding night up on Twitter being a smug asshole about it. Only Phil could turn his wedding, a day most people consider to be among the happiest of their lives, into nothing more than a weird bragging right.

He didn't have to share it at all. It doesn't fucking matter a single bit to anyone on the internet. What did he expect people would say? It'd only be one of two generic sentiments. Ultimately no one fucking cares (except freaks on either side, like us).

At least in this specific instance he can chalk it up to the fact that apparently to be a Person on the internet you need to share all sorts of personal bullshit about yourself that makes no difference to anyone, but unfortunately now everyone wants to be a gawking slackjawed fuckwit and they aren't interested if people aren't turning their lives into sideshows for their consumption on demand. I can count the streamers I've seen who don't do things like rope their significant others into their goddamn personal carnival on one hand, and even some of them eventually just capitulated and did it anyway for no fucking reason, like Jim.

 

[Mr.PiggyOinkOinkOink]

He didn't have to share it at all. It doesn't fucking matter a single bit to anyone on the internet. What did he expect people would say? It'd only be one of two generic sentiments. Ultimately no one fucking cares (except freaks on either side, like us).

At least in this specific instance he can chalk it up to the fact that apparently to be a Person on the internet you need to share all sorts of personal bullshit about yourself that makes no difference to anyone, but unfortunately now everyone wants to be a gawking slackjawed fuckwit and they aren't interested if people aren't turning their lives into sideshows for their consumption on demand. I can count the streamers I've seen who don't do things like rope their significant others into their goddamn personal carnival on one hand, and even some of them eventually just capitulated and did it anyway for no fucking reason, like Jim.

I’ll add onto it not mattering and remind everyone we know so much unnecessary shit about darks life, why we know any significant information about a fucking let’s players I’ll never understand.

Is it a lolcow trait to feel the need to excessively revel personal shit to people online? He tells us so much unnecessary details about his life and the reasoning seems to flop between bragging about shit to needing to vent his annoyance at daily chores

 

[Nixxit]

I don't find it all that odd that people end up knowing a lot about a let's player. I mean, it's not an online phenomenon; If you even just listen to someone talk, you'll end up learning about their life, it's inevitable if they tell anecdotes and all.

Where this gets artifical with Phil is that this looks more like the end goal than happenstance. It's not his GF happening to come on stream because she has to ask him something during one, it's him parading his GF and announcing it like some grand event beforehand. It's not him answering a casual question about how he transitioned to full-time streaming that tells us he lost his job; It's him constantly re-telling the story for pity bucks.

 

[lolyourwrong]

Is it a lolcow trait to feel the need to excessively revel personal shit to people online? He tells us so much unnecessary details about his life and the reasoning seems to flop between bragging about shit to needing to vent his annoyance at daily chores

It's all a big defense against the accusations. Call him fat, stupid, bad with money, lazy and something will come up to deny it.
"I have all my muscles from when I lifted weights!"
"That one time I had (was smart enough) to drive the car in the guardrails because of another stupid driver!"
"You don't understand taxes! I have to do this and this and this...."
"I'm so busy today!"

Normal people do the same thing. Accuse someone of being lazy maybe they will tell you their agenda. Normally it's not recorded in video nor a attempt to cling on some odd image of a mature adult.

 

[Pargon]

I don't find it all that odd that people end up knowing a lot about a let's player. I mean, it's not an online phenomenon; If you even just listen to someone talk, you'll end up learning about their life, it's inevitable if they tell anecdotes and all.

I guess I'm not really talking about anecdotes. "The other day my wife said..." and "HEY GUYZ ITS MAI WAIFE, SAY HI HONEY!!!!!" are two different things, and so much of streaming is performative nonsense that isn't just playing the game and talking to people. Everyone is trying to be an *entertainer* and it's vomit-inducing because they don't have the chops so it all just turns into working their whole lives into the stream to keep people interested because people will gawp at any hint of weirdness or deviation, and I don't count myself out of that group, because I'm here. The only difference is that we document and laugh.

We act like Phil is incredibly rare in terms of his gimmicks but he isn't. Just look at how many people bring their pets onto their streams.

 

[PieceofShet]

Did he really say that?

 

[BallBuster]

Did he really say that?

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Do you even have to ask at this point?

 

[PieceofShet]

Do you even have to ask at this point?

Sometimes I do question these quotes cause Im having a hard time to believe... even for dsp.
But then they link a clip. Wanna see this one too.

 

[That Hedonist Nerd]

Did he really say that?

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I remember him saying something like that twice last week. Actually he might have said something similar right around thanksgiving too

 

[D.JOHNDEER]

I'm waiting for the EMERGENREEE stream saying his videos were being flagged by coppa and the ftc as geared toward children. He spans so much time, and has SO many videos... how many 42 grand fines will he end up begging for? Or will it be the final annihilation for the roach?

Theres bound to be at least one, ya know... somewhere in his begacy. Did he ever do a "DSP Tries It - the kids meal"? lol

 

[Adamska]

Did he really say that?

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He did a Begday week too, where Pig begged a whole week because he became one year closer to his death. This is normal for him...

 

[PervertedMonk]

Since we're on the 5,000th page. I'm curious if anyone's been following phil longer than I have. I've been following him since May 8th 2009. Anyone got me beat?

I'm kind of close. Started watching him in July or August of '09. Didn't take long to start disliking him.

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

I don't know if this has been brought up before, and I don't really want to spawn gay-ops from this, but what are the odds that the new YouTube anti-bully rules fuck DSP for shitting on Tevin all the time (or vice versa?)?

 

[Comma]

Holy shit. Dave is lashing out at long-time viewer and subscriber Bernielomax, who he apparently banned today because he told DSP he talks about detractors too much.

Of course he just came back from a break and he's not recording for Youtube, so clip incoming.

-EDIT- Clip:

Listening to this unhinged and toxic rant, you 'd think that user said something outrageous. Well, let's find out...

Here are all the chat lines from this user during today's stream, with the last one being the remark he got banned for:

Lol, what a thin-skinned manbaby to ban someone for that.

-EDIT2- And now of course chat's only talking about this very subject, with DSP getting mad that peepul are trying to derail the stream. What the fuck... He even shouted at theycallmejimbob of all people, one of the most easy going DSP viewers I've ever seen.

DSP's reaction:

Spoiler

Could it be that he again fell for someone pretending to be a banned viewer/supporter, calling him an asshole, just like he did with the fake DJRuno1?

 

[actually]

I don't know if this has been brought up before, and I don't really want to spawn gay-ops from this, but what are the odds that the new YouTube anti-bully rules fuck DSP for shitting on Tevin all the time (or vice versa?)?

I would bet the guidelines are for targeting specific people (see, for instance, idubbbz video on leafy that was taken down). So maybe if there's a video where he talks about Tevin specifically, but I doubt it. Someone on Twitter pointed out the Toby Turner "react" video Phil did, but even then, Phil talked about himself so much that I doubt that would qualify.


All that said, I bet someone could find an older video where Phil went ham on someone that could qualify.

 

[Pargon]

I don't know if this has been brought up before, and I don't really want to spawn gay-ops from this, but what are the odds that the new YouTube anti-bully rules fuck DSP for shitting on Tevin all the time (or vice versa?)?

YouTube and Twitch have the same guideline.

"Does this video/account/streamer make us money enough to offset any other problem that may arise on account of leaving them on our servers?"

Until people stop paying the kinds of attention to DSP that are profitable, nothing will happen to him. They don't give a shit about how stupid his continued presence makes them look, or what sort of liability he will cause on their behalf as long as they come out in the black in the end.

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

I would bet the guidelines are for targeting specific people (see, for instance, idubbbz video on leafy that was taken down). So maybe if there's a video where he talks about Tevin specifically, but I doubt it. Someone on Twitter pointed out the Toby Turner "react" video Phil did, but even then, Phil talked about himself so much that I doubt that would qualify.


All that said, I bet someone could find an older video where Phil went ham on someone that could qualify.

Pewdiepie, Jenna Marbles, or Ninja might trigger that with how specific he was about some of those rants. I somehow doubt DSP won't get triggered and go on a hateful tirade against a named person in the future, I look for to the Twitch/Twitter tard cum he will unleash when he inevitably fucks this up and blames Tevin.

YouTube and Twitch have the same guideline.

"Does this video/account/streamer make us money enough to offset any other problem that may arise on account of leaving them on our servers?"

Until people stop paying the kinds of attention to DSP that are profitable, nothing will happen to him. They don't give a shit about how stupid his continued presence makes them look, or what sort of liability he will cause on their behalf as long as they come out in the black in the end.

If DSP is anything to go by, he doesn't make YouTube nearly enough money to get that rule bending he gets on Twitch. Honestly, I'm shocked it's enough for Twitch.

 

[Pargon]

If DSP is anything to go by, he doesn't make YouTube nearly enough money to get that rule bending he gets on Twitch. Honestly, I'm shocked it's enough for Twitch.

I'm not a YewTewb Insider so on that I can't be certain but in reality all they're doing is hosting his (admittedly stupidly large) """archive""" on their servers, which, when they're already paying for the hardware and the shitzillion kilowatt hours to keep them going, ain't a huge cost to swallow comparatively. Unless I'm mistaken, the smoking gun that would give us that answer is his CPM, which we only have a wide estimate of. We know YouTube isn't gonna pay him more than is commensurate with what he brings them for ad revenue. But I also don't think outfits with parent companies big enough to kill God twice are going to tolerate a chucklefuck who's outlived his financial utility.

 

[JamFlowMan]

YouTube and Twitch have the same guideline.

"Does this video/account/streamer make us money enough to offset any other problem that may arise on account of leaving them on our servers?"

Until people stop paying the kinds of attention to DSP that are profitable, nothing will happen to him. They don't give a shit about how stupid his continued presence makes them look, or what sort of liability he will cause on their behalf as long as they come out in the black in the end.

I think he has the opposite situation on YouTube which by pigroach luck helps him just as much. Twitch he isn't a big shot player, but the money he brings in for a channel as small as he is helps him. Plus you have the alleged Twitch contact covering his ass. Now Twitch is ~3 billion dollar company so if they wanted to they could drop him and not even notice, but until he gives a reason that's really worth it they might as well get their cut.

Now on YouTube he is a nobody. 180,000 subs, a million views a month max(usually less,) gives him about as much clout as someone who never opened a channel. However since he's a nobody it doesn't matter what he says because nobody is listening. The channels clearly on the chopping block were successful and that's one of the last things you can say about Dspgaming. Maybe one day when YouTube completes its de-evolution into becoming cable TV and anyone and everyone is banned Phil's number will come up, but by that point it wouldn't even matter?