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[FATTESTCUNT]

Kotaku made a "5 games that defined the decade" list, and guess which non-game made the list?

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I hope Grayson got his shafted worked on and his balls cradled as a reward for his water-carrying effort.

EDIT: switched link to archive. Thanks, @Wargarbl

Kinda interesting that the article claims that false assertions were made about Kotaku being unethical in its coverage of Depression Quest, when they changed their ethics policy in response to the criticism they were getting: -

We agree on the need to ensure that, on the occasion where there is a personal connection between a writer and a developer, it's mentioned. We've also agreed that funding any developers through services such as Patreon introduce needless potential conflicts of interest and are therefore nixing any such contributions by our writers. Some may disagree that Patreons are a conflict. That's a debate for journalism critics. (Update: After some discussion, as noted here, we will make a minor exception and permit a writer paying into a Patreon or any other crowd-funding service in the extremely unlikely scenario when it is the only way to access a game we're interested in for coverage. Since most developers usually provide press at least some access to their games for free, this is largely a hypothetical situation but one that ensures we don't miss covering a game because of an overly restrictive policy.)

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[Frosted Snowflakes]

Kotaku made a "5 games that defined the decade" list, and guess which non-game made the list?

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I hope Grayson got his shafted worked on and his balls cradled as a reward for his water-carrying effort.

EDIT: switched link to archive. Thanks, @Wargarbl

I'm really hoping it's someone's opinions and not a official award.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Just to supplement, reported Patreon totals go down at the beginning of every month due to cancellations, expired credit cards and other things. This is true of every Patreon account aside from those vanity ones where mommy is your only patron.

No he's correct, her have held steady, or the way it moves have been steady, so it's not the new month slump.

She ain't even attractive though.

I think that worked in her favor during her froggy looking days, it made her seem non-threatening and realistically attainable to thirsty indie devs. If she was really hot they would probably have been scared or very uncomfortable around her.

Quirky, doughy, Innsmouth Zoe integrates better into that environment.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

Kotaku made a "5 games that defined the decade" list, and guess which non-game made the list?

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I hope Grayson got his shafted worked on and his balls cradled as a reward for his water-carrying effort.

EDIT: switched link to archive. Thanks, @Wargarbl

This article doesn't even make any sense. In every instance "the game" is just a brief segue for paragraphs rambling about some things that happened during the decade. I'm actually wondering if this is even close to the original concept of what they assigned him to write.

 

[Next Task]

This article doesn't even make any sense. In every instance "the game" is just a brief segue for paragraphs rambling about some things that happened during the decade.

Well, it's not about 'five best games', it's 'five games that defined the decade'. For that reason, because of how they won't fucking let go of Gamergate, a game the represented GG has to be on the list - and there's really only one game that could be, because Depression Quest was one of the big reasons people started pushing back on the corruption in games journalism and the indie games scene.

So anything about it being an actual good game, or a start of a wave of thoughtful indie games, is all mendacious bullshit from exactly who you'd think would say that kind of shit. But as a game that defined a decade in all the wrong ways, I think it warrants inclusion. Just from a very different perspective.

 

[Haramburger]

I don't think we visited the sales charts for Chelsea's scraps in Marvel/IDW so I took a look.

Nov 2019: Link to comic here


Sept 2019: Link to comic here


Bear in mind that Fearless #3 was an anthology of many female creators and Chelsea contributed 12 pages to it. Still waiting for Dec 2019 numbers re: Deathbringer.

 

[Wargarbl]

I don't think we visited the sales charts for Chelsea's scraps in Marvel/IDW so I took a look.

Nov 2019: Link to comic here
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Sept 2019: Link to comic here
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Bear in mind that Fearless #3 was an anthology of many female creators and Chelsea contributed 12 pages to it. Still waiting for Dec 2019 numbers re: Deathbringer.

Agreed that Fearless requires context, because it was a compilation of short stories by multiple creators, as well as a 4 issue run.

There was some bridging between months on sales numbers, so taking that into account, the rough sales numbers from Comichron for the 4 issues were:
#1 - 29K
#2 - 19K
#3 - 15.5K (issue with Chelsea's story)
#4 - 14K

My takeaway is that Chelsea's contribution had no effect on the normal trajectory of sales numbers. Which is what I expected. People may follow her on social media and puff her up there, but they don't buy her work.

Her only real value to comics is that they can pay her nearly nothing and get some free social media exposure since she has a lot of followers. Problem is, that social media is now filled with people pointing out the shitty things she's done. Not a great look for a brand.

 

[Haramburger]

My takeaway is that Chelsea's contribution had no effect on the normal trajectory of sales numbers. Which is what I expected. People may follow her on social media and puff her up there, but they don't buy her work.

Her only real value to comics is that they can pay her nearly nothing and get some free social media exposure since she has a lot of followers. Problem is, that social media is now filled with people pointing out the shitty things she's done. Not a great look for a brand.

Good analysis. It's also worth noting that the cover had a spread of 8 names, last name only, and Quinn is a relatively common surname. Nothing risked, but also nothing gained.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

What are the Infected books doing in general? (Could be interesting to compare Zoe's versus the rest.)

I've personally enjoyed the Dark Multiverse versions of past DC events much more.

I figure they didn't spend much on these anyway, I know some of the bigger name writers picked the ones they did because they specifically wanted to write a one-off What If type story.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

I don't think we visited the sales charts for Chelsea's scraps in Marvel/IDW so I took a look.

Nov 2019: Link to comic here
View attachment 1049405

Sept 2019: Link to comic here
View attachment 1049409

Bear in mind that Fearless #3 was an anthology of many female creators and Chelsea contributed 12 pages to it. Still waiting for Dec 2019 numbers re: Deathbringer.

Comicrhon should have Decembers stats in January, around the 10th or so.

 

[Doctor Placebo]

That list shit. Everything after Minecraft defines nothing.
Mass Effect 3? A fart in an elevator.
Tales from the Borderland? Really? The first Walking Dead is right there.
Broken Age? Yawn.
Depression Quest only counts for the autistic bullshit it spawned.

Yeah, I could see someone making the argument that Depression Quest was important because of the culture war shitstorm it caused, but it's fucking Kotaku so of course they have to pretend that this glorified Livejournal entry actually has merit as a game.

Not that the rest of the list is much better. Tales from the Borderland isn't even one of the games that defined Telltale Games for the decade. I'm not sure if Anthony Burch sucked the writer's cock for that to end up on the list or what. Broken Age I'd never even heard of before seeing this list, and Mass Effect 3 is only known for its shitastic, non-choice ending.

 

[Jack Awful]

Yeah, I could see someone making the argument that Depression Quest was important because of the culture war shitstorm it caused, but it's fucking Kotaku so of course they have to pretend that this glorified Livejournal entry actually has merit as a game.

Not that the rest of the list is much better. Tales from the Borderland isn't even one of the games that defined Telltale Games for the decade. I'm not sure if Anthony Burch sucked the writer's cock for that to end up on the list or what. Broken Age I'd never even heard of before seeing this list, and Mass Effect 3 is only known for its shitastic, non-choice ending.

Broken Age works because it was one of the first nostalgia-bait Kickstarter games where an old school dev wanted to make a spiritual successor to the games he used to make, but then he mismanaged the funds and it turned out really disappointing.

Kotaku clearly didn't mean it this way, but they're also tards.

 

[Raging Capybara]

That list shit. Everything after Minecraft defines nothing.
Mass Effect 3? A fart in an elevator.
Tales from the Borderland? Really? The first Walking Dead is right there.
Broken Age? Yawn.
Depression Quest only counts for the autistic bullshit it spawned.

I honestly have never heard about Broken Age in my life. It's the first time I see it being mentioned at all.

Saying this list is shit is an understatement, it's quite possibly the worst list of all time.

 

[BlueCandle]

So is it safe to assume that the wacky visual novel Kickstarter thing has no chance of happening anymore?

 

[Lord Xenu]

I honestly have never heard about Broken Age in my life. It's the first time I see it being mentioned at all.

Broken Age was my last straw as far as paying attention to mainstream game reviews, it drew a hard line in the sand for me.

The usual suspects were hyping this game and I was looking forward to it. I'm certain that any mention of this title is either nepotism or payola. It is Legitimately one of the most boring games I have bothered with (and I spent hours trying to like it).

 

[Water-T]

Broken Age was my last straw as far as paying attention to mainstream game reviews, it drew a hard line in the sand for me.

The usual suspects were hyping this game and I was looking forward to it. I'm certain that any mention of this title is either nepotism or payola. It is Legitimately one of the most boring games I have bothered with (and I spent hours trying to like it).

Broken Age is only mentioned because Tim Shitburger was one of the biggest anti gamergaters at the time. Like, Trump Derangement Syndrome level. The last decent game he made was Brutal Legend in 2009 - which was delayed and hampered by the dumb tower defense parts that no one asked for.

There were better, more successful crowdfunded games that could have held that slot, like Axiom Verge, Stardew Valley, or Undertale. But Kuntaku is gonna Kotaku and make sure their butt buddies get their dicks stroked.

 

[Jack Awful]

Broken Age is only mentioned because Tim Shitburger was one of the biggest anti gamergaters at the time. Like, Trump Derangement Syndrome level. The last decent game he made was Brutal Legend in 2009 - which was delayed and hampered by the dumb tower defense parts that no one asked for.

There were better, more successful crowdfunded games that could have held that slot, like Axiom Verge, Stardew Valley, or Undertale. But Kuntaku is gonna Kotaku and make sure their butt buddies get their dicks stroked.

Tim makes games with amazing worlds, stories, characters, voice acting, polish, and charm, but shitty gameplay.

He should be working for Cartoon Network or something, because he can't design a fun game to save his life.

 

[AnOminous]

What's harder than making a game or writing a book?

Making another game, writing another book, etc.

Sucking a bunch of dicks to get someone else to do it for you, then accusing them of rape. Oh, wait, that's actually easier.

 

[Mike Hunt]

Kotaku made a "5 games that defined the decade" list, and guess which non-game made the list?

Archive

I hope Grayson got his shafted worked on and his balls cradled as a reward for his water-carrying effort.

EDIT: switched link to archive. Thanks, @Wargarbl

The writer probably heard from Grayson about how he can get his dick wet just by giving lip service to Dep Quest and did so. Hope the sex was worth it since it severely undermines his credibility as a writer, not that there was any there to begin with.

They have such a hard on for pushing their shit agenda that they pretty much overlooked more notable games that defined the decade and continue defining games moving forward like DotA 2 (essentially paving the way for eSports to be taken more seriously with gargantuan prize pools) and Fortnite (it's popularity among both kids and adults made streaming a real career option for a lot of streamers and helped Twitch in a great way). There are so many other games that could've made the list, instead he went with what seems to be the "2 edgy 4 u" shit list (save for Minecraft, the lone entry there that deserves its spot).

Gamergate is a small blip in the decade's radar, even in gaming circles. Most gamers had a laugh about it for a short while then moved on to other stuff quickly. The few holdouts who still mention it today and upsells it like it's a culture-defining moment are just people who are either brain-damaged, agenda-pushers, and/or people who found their few minutes of fame that one time and are desperately trying to recapture that (this is where Zoe and Wu fit in).

 

[AnOminous]

The writer probably heard from Grayson about how he can get his dick wet just by giving lip service to Dep Quest and did so. Hope the sex was worth it since it severely undermines his credibility as a writer, not that there was any there to begin with.

Kotaku rarely if ever rises above the level of a pure shitpost. Of all the terrible clickbait vendors who really shouldn't exist at all, they're among the worst.