Furry Fandom and Drama General

The Conservatives in the UK had a strong victory, which means Brexit is almost sure to happen in the near future. It is likely this could create some interesting drama, such as what's pictured below.

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The Conservatives in the UK had a strong victory, which means Brexit is almost sure to happen in the near future. It is likely this could create some interesting drama, such as what's pictured below.

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Knowing Kaiber and Jason, this is most likely a pander to get more idiots to follow them that normally wouldn't.
 
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degenerrat with the hot take
 
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Imagine being so sad that the only identities you have are your deviant sex stuff and your crappy politics.
These people are proof that social media and the internet were mistakes.
 
Oh wow! limey furries are really getting salty and reeeeeing! over the UKs election results. Oi Furry! you got a loicence for that furry porn and fursuit?
 
Another day, another fluff piece on the fandom. This one is interesting because it talks about the role social media has in creating new furries, and why people decide to join. Spoiler: social media (TikTok in particular) made it trendy to be a furry. Another interesting tidbit is how many underage furries there are now. Online there is a huge pushback against underage furries thanks to the Sisk saga (and how horny teens are online) and art theft. However more and more underage furries are showing up to conventions.

I'll give this article credit. It does mention one of the recent fandom sex scandals, but then it says that "it's a fraction of the community" lumping them in with generic fetishism. If you've been around the furry fandom for more than 10 minutes, you'll know that the "it's a minority" excuse is the furry fandom version of saying you read Playboy for the articles. Sure Playboy might have had some good articles, but it's obvious why you're reading it.

Why Are So Many Gen Z Kids Becoming Furries?

Furry influencers on TikTok are bringing the long-misunderstood subculture to a whole new generation

Jen’s daughter is nine years old, with shoulder-length brown hair and darting, fearful eyes. She’s anxious and withdrawn, and her mother says she doesn’t get asked to go on play dates very often. When she speaks to people she doesn’t know, she keeps a careful distance, like she’s trying to decide whether or not to pet a tarantula at a zoo exhibit.


But then Jen’s daughter becomes Emily the deer. She has a pink head with zebra stripes, white tufts of fur, and giant, ink-black antlers. In an instant, she goes from withdrawn to animated and gregarious. “She’ll put her head on and go play and join the other kids,” Jen tells me, as we watch her daughter chatting gaily with other sundry woodland creatures.


Emily and Jen have just attended a meet-and-greet for furries who are influencers on TikTok, the hugely popular lip-syncing app used primarily by teens. The pair have driven about an hour from their home in the Chicago suburbs to attend Midwest FurFest, an annual convention for people who are involved with the furry community, a stigmatized, highly misunderstood subculture for people who identify with anthropomorphized animals. Although the common conception is that the culture is inherently sexualized, the reality is that being a furry means different things to different people: some furries like drawing character art, while others enjoy dressing up in fursuits (full-body costumes) or creating their own fursonas (animal characters).


Emily (due to privacy concerns, most furries will be identified here by their fursonas) is one of a growing number of Gen Z members joining the fandom, despite some of the stigmas and misconceptions that have propagated around it. At the conventions, the number of attendees who are minors has “steadily increased,” says John “KP” Cole, the director of communications at Anthrocon, a similar convention in the Pittsburgh area. According to data provided to Rolling Stone, approximately 16 percent of attendees at Anthrocon 2019 were under the age of 19. “Some of them like the aesthetic, they like the idea of creating somebody, and they like the idea of being someone other than who they are,” he says.


Like most trends, the popularity of the fandom can largely be attributed to digital culture; the mainstreaming of so-called geek culture also may play a role. The anime fandom, for instance, has some overlap with the furry community, and many stumble on the fandom by searching for fan art in general. “If there’s a character in the world there will be a furry version of it, so if kids are trying to find fan art of, say, Hermione Granger from Harry Potter, they’ll go, ‘Oh, a weird animal version of her, let me find more,'” says Pyxe, a fox/cat hybrid who attended the meet and greet.


The fandom is also blowing up on TikTok, where furries like Pyxe (195,000 followers), Halfy (119,000 followers), and Barry Angel Dragon (98,000 followers), have amassed large audiences in a relatively short amount of time due to their cuddly and colorful fursonas. It is also TikTok that played host to the latest incarnation of the furry-versus-gamer wars, a meme from earlier this year that essentially consisted of both factions roasting each other via Tiktok’s duets feature. (In reality, says Pyxe, there is overlap between the two; some furries are gamers, and some gamers identify with some aspects of furries.)

A 23-year-old from Houston, Texas, Pyxe says 73% of his followers are between the ages of 13 and 18, and that most of them are female; a gender breakdown that actually deviates from that of the furry fandom as a whole, which tends to skew male. (Teenage girls tend to be drawn to the more “cutesy” side of the fandom, as opposed to the “drinking, partying, more adult” side, which skews more masculine, he says.)

“A lot of kids will be on TikTok because it’s very catered toward a young [demographic] and the content is short and kids have a very short attention span,” he says. “A lot of times they’ll see a furry and they’ll want to see what it’s about, and they’ll join the fandom that way.” (Indeed, Emily, the nine-year-old deer, found the fandom on Tiktok when she was eight; at the time we spoke, she was waiting to see Tequila Shepherd, a British German Shepherd with 178,000 followers.)


In most respects, furry Tiktok isn’t that much different from normie Tiktok, with furries doing dances or comedy videos to various popular audios. But simply by virtue of its time constraints and its hyper-addicting algorithm, it’s less personality-driven than, say, YouTube, which is also what draws furries concerned about protecting their identities to the platform. “Kids love Thor and Iron Man and Marvel and all that stuff. But they never wanna know who the actors are. They just care about the characters,” says Doppio, a 21-year-old furry Tiktok user. “They just know what they like.”


Many furry content creators on Tiktok also make the fandom seem less threatening to parents, who may be concerned about the sexualized aspects of the fandom. “Before TikTok got big, parents [were] scared to bring their kids to a furry convention,” says Barry, 25, a yellow-and-black dragon, and former U.S. Air Force field technician. “If one parents sees a TikTok and they say, ‘this isn’t too bad,’ then they tell another parent too.”

The influx of kids and teenagers into the fandom is surprising, not just because the demographics have traditionally skewed older (most attendees at Anthrocon were between 25 and 29, says Cole), but because of the perception that the fandom is inherently sexualized, thanks in large part to stereotypes perpetuated by shows like Entourage and CSI. Indeed, most parents of kids who have become involved with the fandom have had to grapple with this perception upon first learning of their kids’ interest. “At every panel I’ve been to, I’ve had a parent at least come up to me saying, ‘I’ve seen this thing on CSI and I’m worried my kid might get into this,’ or ‘I was in the dealers’ den [the vendors’ section of Midwest FurFest] and I saw all these provocative things being sold there,'” says Pyxe.








In reality, there are indeed some who are drawn to the fandom for sexual reasons, and there have been a handful of instances where adults in the fandom have preyed on minors, most notably a pedophile ring that was busted in Bucks County, Pennsylvania in 2017. Yet most furries say that those who sexualize cartoon animals represents only a sliver of the community, which is far too broad to be defined by any one of its subgroups. “People know more about the fandom now, and they’re learning it’s not just about sexualization and all that stuff,” says Crowflight, 16, whose fursona is a cat. “You’ll find other artists, dancers, filmmakers, who are drawn to it for different reasons.” (It’s also of note that at the conventions specifically, the line between programming geared at minors and adults is firmly drawn. Midwest FurFest’s media relations lead Matt Berger says the conventions typically reserve 18+ programming, such as kink safety panels, for the nighttime hours, with the con instituting a strict “no latex on the floor till after dark” policy.)

Many kids and teenagers who self-identify as furry (and many furries in general) are marginalized in the culture at large. For instance, surveys suggest that furries are disproportionately more likely to self-identify as LGBTQ, and Pyxe says that many kids see coming out as furry, and interacting with happy and well-adjusted out LGBTQ furries, as a stepping stone toward coming out as LGBTQ themselves: “the fandom is so open that they feel safer exploring their identity more than if they were living in a traditional household,” he says.

Other furries also have disabilities or are struggling with mental health issues: Jen, for instance, says her daughter Emily has been diagnosed with anxiety, as has the 17-year-old dressed as Wyatt, an Australian kettle dog/TikTok micro-influencer at the convention. “Throughout this whole con, people have recognized me and wanted to hug me and it just warms my heart because it feels like people care about me and I don’t have to worry about what I’m doing. I’m just a dog,” Wyatt says.


And parents instinctively appreciate that, even if they may not understand it. “I’ve told her many times: at my age this would not have been my thing, but she’s my thing,” says Anne, Wyatt’s mother.








Of course, just because a subculture is becoming popular doesn’t make it mainstream, by a long shot. Despite the prevalence of anti-bullying campaigns and increasing acceptance of marginalized identities, it’s still not exactly considered socially OK for a Gen Z kid to waltz into their middle or high school with a dog or horse suit on.


“Like 80% of my DMs is, ‘Hey I get bullied at school, what do I do?'” says Pyxe. His answer is sadly pragmatic: “I always tell them if you’re going to be considered part of a fandom that’s considered unusual or weird, keep it on the down-low unless you are comfortable receiving the backlash.”


Yet as content creators like Pyxe continue to amass an even larger audience, and as nerd culture in general becomes increasingly mainstream, it’s possible that furry fans, like other members of previously marginalized and misunderstood subcultures, won’t have to linger in the shadows forever. ASMR, for instance, a YouTube subculture consisting of highly arcane “whisper” videos, was viewed as a sexual fetish for years; last February, it appeared in an ad for Michelob Light starring Zoe Kravitz during the Super Bowl, arguably the ultimate litmus test for mainstream popularity.


It’s not totally outside the realm of possibility to imagine the furry fandom following a similar trajectory — but even if it doesn’t, many parents of kids in the fandom don’t care. “Kids at school make fun of her and give her a hard time or whatever for being a furry, but she comes out of her shell when she puts her fur suit on,” says Jen, gesturing toward Emily, milling about in a roomful of TikTok-famous dogs and cats and wolves and bear-bunny hybrids.


Her voice catches in her throat. “This has helped her become who she’s supposed to be,” she says.

Imagine being so sad that the only identities you have are your deviant sex stuff and your crappy politics.
These people are proof that social media and the internet were mistakes.
This is pretty much the furry fandom these days. Ever since Brexit, the 2016 election, and the RMFC saga the fandom has gotten more and more political. The end result of this is that the fandom that was open and accepting is now "if you voted for the wrong person get the fuck out of the fandom", and it's not just some fringe group or controversial figurehead saying this either. It's a lot of furries. Many of them don't even care about the furry part anymore.

I have seen so many furries who have literally those two things as their identity. Porn, fetishes, and bitching about something is the core identity of many furries these days.
 
This is pretty much the furry fandom these days. Ever since Brexit, the 2016 election, and the RMFC saga the fandom has gotten more and more political. The end result of this is that the fandom that was open and accepting is now "if you voted for the wrong person get the fuck out of the fandom", and it's not just some fringe group or controversial figurehead saying this either. It's a lot of furries. Many of them don't even care about the furry part anymore.

I have seen so many furries who have literally those two things as their identity. Porn, fetishes, and bitching about something is the core identity of many furries these days.
Basically they have became the inverse version of the anime avatars. They don't even want to stuff the rabbit anymore.
Also I blame that they as you mentioned semi mainstream and trendy. They are very accepted. Considering how many of them are open and work at high status jobs.
 
The Conservatives in the UK had a strong victory, which means Brexit is almost sure to happen in the near future. It is likely this could create some interesting drama, such as what's pictured below.

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Oh wow! limey furries are really getting salty and reeeeeing! over the UKs election results. Oi Furry! you got a loicence for that furry porn and fursuit?
I'm not British, so would someone who is please explain to me what the fuck is so bad about the tory party to the point that voting for/supporting them makes you satan incarnate according to these dipshits?
 
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I'm not British, so would someone who is please explain to what the fuck is so bad about the tory party to the point that voting for/supporting them makes you satan incarnate according to these dipshits?
According to them? Take all the usual 'eww trump voter' stereotypes (old, dumb racist hicks who don't know anything) and add in 'they're going to destroy my socialized healthcare', and also 'they're preventing my Marxist Labour paradise'.

Depending on who's talking, the concerns are about trannies, immigrants/muslims (bigtime), and possibly Brexit, though the hardline Left isn't too keen on the EU either.

Unlike here, though it's the Left that blames the Jews for everything right now.
 
The Conservatives in the UK had a strong victory, which means Brexit is almost sure to happen in the near future. It is likely this could create some interesting drama, such as what's pictured below.

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Another day, another fluff piece on the fandom. This one is interesting because it talks about the role social media has in creating new furries, and why people decide to join. Spoiler: social media (TikTok in particular) made it trendy to be a furry. Another interesting tidbit is how many underage furries there are now. Online there is a huge pushback against underage furries thanks to the Sisk saga (and how horny teens are online) and art theft. However more and more underage furries are showing up to conventions.

I'll give this article credit. It does mention one of the recent fandom sex scandals, but then it says that "it's a fraction of the community" lumping them in with generic fetishism. If you've been around the furry fandom for more than 10 minutes, you'll know that the "it's a minority" excuse is the furry fandom version of saying you read Playboy for the articles. Sure Playboy might have had some good articles, but it's obvious why you're reading it.




This is pretty much the furry fandom these days. Ever since Brexit, the 2016 election, and the RMFC saga the fandom has gotten more and more political. The end result of this is that the fandom that was open and accepting is now "if you voted for the wrong person get the fuck out of the fandom", and it's not just some fringe group or controversial figurehead saying this either. It's a lot of furries. Many of them don't even care about the furry part anymore.

I have seen so many furries who have literally those two things as their identity. Porn, fetishes, and bitching about something is the core identity of many furries these days.

For me, the main take away on this article is "furries are mentally or emotionally disturbed and, if your kid says they want to be a furry, check your medical insurance to see if you can afford therapy and other mental health treatment for your very screwed up kid."

I've noticed that this is also the approach some other 'positive' mainstream news articles have taken, in talking about the fandom - "don't fear the furries, normies! - this is the safe space for people with huge problems who have trouble getting on in life". I've also noticed that when an article like this comes out, furries never disagree with this conclusion.

And all of the furries I've met or interacted with support this conclusion with their own behavior. Sure, not all of them are as spectacular a lolcow as some of those who have their own threads here, but all the ones I ever knew, always, are completely incapable of getting their shit together and interacting with the world or normal people without a lot of thrashing about, drama, depression, and just in general being a total screw up.

You know, thinking about it, this leads me to appreciate this article for at least telling (mostly) the truth, even if they do perpetuate the "the kink and sex stuff is totally minor and hardly anyone's interested in it." You know, saying that, I realize this kid's mom's problems are just starting. Just wait until Jen's little girl tells her that she's moving to Pennsylvania to go live with her furry lover when she's 16, or tells her mom she got groped at a convention, or something like that.

Also, I can't help but think the TikTok furries they interviewed are rubbing their hands and licking their lips in glee at the thought of all that fresh young meat that they're bringing into the fandom.

John “KP” Cole's one of them. I know that his fursona's name is "KuddlePup". He's a middle aged boomer, and he calls himself "Kuddlepup". Might as well call himself 'Groomer' or something like that.
 
According to them? Take all the usual 'eww trump voter' stereotypes (old, dumb racist hicks who don't know anything) and add in 'they're going to destroy my socialized healthcare', and also 'they're preventing my Marxist Labour paradise'.

Depending on who's talking, the concerns are about trannies, immigrants/muslims (bigtime), and possibly Brexit, though the hardline Left isn't too keen on the EU either.

Unlike here, though it's the Left that blames the Jews for everything right now.
Add the whole 'Tories kill badgers!!!!!!!' point.

Either way, please xcuse the controversial source, but violence is happening already.
 
Dude's boss wants to wear the fursuit....
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....what the boss doesn't know is that he took a shit in the fursuit.
https://thisvid.com/videos/diaper-fursuit-messing/ (Warning! NSFW).
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The fursuit shitting degenerate posted a selfie.
Real name Christopher Lucero D.O.B. 8/23/1991
 
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Dude's boss wants to wear the fursuit....
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....what the boss doesn't know is that he took a shit in the fursuit.
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The fursuit shitting degenerate posted a selfie.

And I bet he TOTALLY got off on the idea of his boss wearing it, unawares.
 
Another day, another fluff piece on the fandom. This one is interesting because it talks about the role social media has in creating new furries, and why people decide to join. Spoiler: social media (TikTok in particular) made it trendy to be a furry. Another interesting tidbit is how many underage furries there are now. Online there is a huge pushback against underage furries thanks to the Sisk saga (and how horny teens are online) and art theft. However more and more underage furries are showing up to conventions.

I'll give this article credit. It does mention one of the recent fandom sex scandals, but then it says that "it's a fraction of the community" lumping them in with generic fetishism. If you've been around the furry fandom for more than 10 minutes, you'll know that the "it's a minority" excuse is the furry fandom version of saying you read Playboy for the articles. Sure Playboy might have had some good articles, but it's obvious why you're reading it.




This is pretty much the furry fandom these days. Ever since Brexit, the 2016 election, and the RMFC saga the fandom has gotten more and more political. The end result of this is that the fandom that was open and accepting is now "if you voted for the wrong person get the fuck out of the fandom", and it's not just some fringe group or controversial figurehead saying this either. It's a lot of furries. Many of them don't even care about the furry part anymore.

I have seen so many furries who have literally those two things as their identity. Porn, fetishes, and bitching about something is the core identity of many furries these days.

"Of course, just because a subculture is becoming popular doesn’t make it mainstream, by a long shot. Despite the prevalence of anti-bullying campaigns and increasing acceptance of marginalized identities, it’s still not exactly considered socially OK for a Gen Z kid to waltz into their middle or high school with a dog or horse suit on. "

Bruh, in the near future we're getting anti-bullying PSAs telling us not to bully the furry kid...
 
I remember when I used to work in a liquor store, one day some guy dressed in a dress, striped socks, high heels and has a bow in his hair with an animal tail and ears walks in. Judging by the noise he made when walking I think he was wearing a diaper too but it coulda been some latex fetish gear too. I had an extremely hard time checking this guy out with a straight face and not laughing when he grabbed a big bottle of Fireball. That's one of the reasons I will never work in retail or as a cashier again. I think this guy was a babyfur but I am not sure, he coulda been an Otaku obsessed with nekos for all I know. All I know is, who the hell goes into public like that?
 
I remember when I used to work in a liquor store, one day some guy dressed in a dress, striped socks, high heels and has a bow in his hair with an animal tail and ears walks in. Judging by the noise he made when walking I think he was wearing a diaper too but it coulda been some latex fetish gear too. I had an extremely hard time checking this guy out with a straight face and not laughing when he grabbed a big bottle of Fireball. That's one of the reasons I will never work in retail or as a cashier again. I think this guy was a babyfur but I am not sure, he coulda been an Otaku obsessed with nekos for all I know. All I know is, who the hell goes into public like that?
Ok, I might be going crazy but I remember reading some babyfur's twitter and they said the only alcohol they drank was fireball
...they weren't a tranny though.

Is fireball just a thing in loony circles?
 
Ok, I might be going crazy but I remember reading some babyfur's twitter and they said the only alcohol they drank was fireball
...they weren't a tranny though.

Is fireball just a thing in loony circles?
Fireball is popular with sorority girls, fratboys, alkies who don't like tasting the alcohol, and white trash. And furries, which probably have some overlap there.

The funny thing is that there are cheaper alternatives that taste about the same. RevelStoke Cinnamon is probably better, hell. Jack Daniels Tennessee Fire is probably better but more expensive. I mean, you can make it yourself easily with Red Hots or Atomic Fireball candy and a whiskey of choice.
 
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