Horrorcow Lucas Werner - A man of Spokane, Washington who is obsessed with millennial and Gen Z chicks

I'd say he's been hiding he's schizo.

Recently, probably, especially if he got a re-diagnosis as schizophrenia has a much larger social stigma than bipolar.

In some videos from 2-3 years ago when he's clearly medicated to some degree (his speech is slower and he's less frantic/angry sounding in those, he almost seems sedated in a few of them) he had said he was diagnosed with bipolar though he also could have been hiding a schizophrenia diagnosis then as well. I say that mostly because with the bipolar people I know their meds don't make them seem sedated unless they're also taking a benzo for anxiety.

Some of the older meds for schizophrenia, though, can easily make someone appear checked out and sedated/subdued.

Whatever it is he has, he absolutely needs to be on meds for it.
 
You Don't Speak For The Hoes, Man

Lucas complains about haydur men speaking for women, and then proceeds to speak for women. He calls his strawman a "hateful bitch" immediately after calling them "cunts".

Lukie once again confirms that every interest he has is a facade to deceive young women into liking him. He's taking great wisdom from "rock", "rap", and "country" music about what a MAN people need to be. It would appear that him becoming a potty-mouthed baby is a calculated new phase to make him look like an edgy 13 year old, to try to appeal to other edgy 13 year olds.

Screams "I'M A MAN", you know, like men do. Claims he would convert to veganism if it got him the "good pussy" (aka child pussy). His latest imagination about the form his haydurs take are men who act like "pussies" to get women. Of course, Lucas can't get laid because he's too much "man" for his audience. I'm sure doubling down on that will go fine :story:

After yet another "faggot" screaming session he says "that's homophobic, sorry". I can't even tell if he's joking or not at this point. He then very quickly uses a gay caricature (the limp wrist) to ridicule how his strawman shakes hands. Cool. Really what is this creep's deep-seated loathing for gay people? You'd think he'd like them for taking themselves out of the dating market, but his euphoria would suit it too.

His Tough Guy Democrat persona has some potential, it's very funny. "That's the ROOTS of being a Democrat, the FUCK YOU attitude" - wait, was opposing the Republicans in wanting to retain slavery a "fuck you" attitude, or do the roots not go that far back? "I don't care if gay people have rights, if women have rights, we all have rights". Again, pretty tone deaf with our most intersectional youth, Pukus. He seems to realise his brick head will never understand nuances of contemporary society, so he's settled into some mad outdated 90s view of the world, and is acting angry about it for the purposes of this latest fake persona.

This video is worth a listen, a lot of content in it. Refers to his haydurs as "little ballerinas" "without penis[es]" because they don't learn from the manly teachings of "rock, rap, and country music". This exceptional individual is actually basing his life now on song lyrics :story: Signs off with more of his patented boomer insult of calling men women.
I'm a MAN! I eat beef, okay? Little fay-get.
 
Recently, probably, especially if he got a re-diagnosis as schizophrenia has a much larger social stigma than bipolar.

In some videos from 2-3 years ago when he's clearly medicated to some degree (his speech is slower and he's less frantic/angry sounding in those, he almost seems sedated in a few of them) he had said he was diagnosed with bipolar though he also could have been hiding a schizophrenia diagnosis then as well. I say that mostly because with the bipolar people I know their meds don't make them seem sedated unless they're also taking a benzo for anxiety.

Some of the older meds for schizophrenia, though, can easily make someone appear checked out and sedated/subdued.

Whatever it is he has, he absolutely needs to be on meds for it.
When he was in the mental hospital, he was being treated with the antipsychotic Invega. Invega is for the treatment of schizophrenia. There's a screencap where he says he lost his "ability to reproduce" due to Invega so he was changed over to Abilify. Abilify is used for schizophrenia . After the change over to Abilify he said he was like a "faucet".

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Sometime after he was out of the mental hospital someone asked him what meds he was taking and he said Abilify and Lithium
 
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Good Lord. Pukas. If you want women, stop calling us bitches, cunts and all that BS. You don't speak for me and any of the other women on this planet. None of us want you, so take your meds and settle down in your nasty, lonely fart cave, asshole.

I know he's got schizo and bipolar leanings, but he needs to lay off the booze and fatty foods. Hepatic encephalopathy also makes you freak the fuck out.
 
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I absolutely love these not-so-subtle interchanges.
If you're not following it on this level you're missing out.
 
When he was in the mental hospital, he was being treated with the antipsychotic Invega. Invega is for the treatment of schizophrenia. There's a screencap where he says he lost his "ability to reproduce" due to Invega so he was changed over to Abilify. Abilify is used for schizophrenia . After the change over to Abilify he said he was like a "faucet".

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Sometime after he was out of the mental hospital someone asked him what meds he was taking and he said Abilify and Lithium

Both of those (Abilify and Lithium) are also used for bipolar treatment as well.

Abilify is also used off label to treat autistic people with social anxiety and seems to have a pretty good success rate with that somehow as well.
It's also unfortunately got a wicked side effect of rapid weight gain and occasionally causing people to develop type 2 diabetes, both are buried in the literature but the rapid weight gain is one they say to talk to your doctor about. By rapid they mean 25+ pounds in under a month with no change to diet/exercise. Both are considered rare side effects, if nothing else.

Lithium can fuck with your thyroid too and makes some people go into hypothyroid levels.

If he was or is supposed to be on both for whatever reason that'd explain a lot of the weigh the's regained.

I may or may not have experience of having been on both at the same time for what I found out later was in my file as an "unspecified mood disorder" (Edit to add: Once I got to a competent doctor I got a proper diagnosis, which is not schizophrenia or bipolar).

My mood sure was even as fuck though! I don't remember a lot of it as the lithium gave me a side effect of what amounted to conscious blackouts, I'd remember time leading up to taking the dose, then remember nothing else about the day until it wore off in the evening but I'm told by others I was extremely pleasant and social during the day. The only reason I knew I'd been at work is after I got off of the lithium I looked through the work I'd done for the few months I was on it and it was all there, coherent, and really cheerful sounding. I remember 0% of doing any of it, though.

Kind of scared the hell out of me that I was driving on a highway and had no recollection of it though so, yeah, I don't take that one anymore. I was also on the smallest dose they make and it still did that.

The Abilify caused me to gain about 15lb or so but it stopped after that and didn't mess with my blood sugar levels so I still take that one.
 
Both of those (Abilify and Lithium) are also used for bipolar treatment as well.

Abilify is also used off label to treat autistic people with social anxiety and seems to have a pretty good success rate with that somehow as well.
It's also unfortunately got a wicked side effect of rapid weight gain and occasionally causing people to develop type 2 diabetes, both are buried in the literature but the rapid weight gain is one they say to talk to your doctor about. By rapid they mean 25+ pounds in under a month with no change to diet/exercise. Both are considered rare side effects, if nothing else.

Lithium can fuck with your thyroid too and makes some people go into hypothyroid levels.

If he was or is supposed to be on both for whatever reason that'd explain a lot of the weigh the's regained.

I may or may not have experience of having been on both at the same time for what I found out later was in my file as an "unspecified mood disorder". My mood sure was even as fuck though! I don't remember a lot of it as the lithium gave me a side effect of what amounted to conscious blackouts, I'd remember time leading up to taking the dose, then remember nothing else about the day until it wore off in the evening but I'm told by others I was extremely pleasant and social during the day. The only reason I knew I'd been at work is after I got off of the lithium I looked through the work I'd done for the few months I was on it and it was all there, coherent, and really cheerful sounding. I remember 0% of doing any of it, though.

Kind of scared the hell out of me that I was driving on a highway and had no recollection of it though so, yeah, I don't take that one anymore. I was also on the smallest dose they make and it still did that.

The Abilify caused me to gain about 15lb or so but it stopped after that and didn't mess with my blood sugar levels so I still take that one.
In Lucas's case I'd say the Abilify is for his schizo. Since you mention weight gain on the meds, I wouldn't doubt he got off them to not gain anymore weight and to drop the weight he'd gained.
 
Lucas talked about his schizophrenia years ago. He was open about it back then, more recently he has denied having it and makes it a point to say he only has bipolar. His mother Has always maintained that he struggled with schizophrenia, even as recently release from his last hospital stay.

As we recently discovered, he ditched his medication a year ago. Sometime within the last year he talks about his doubt about his diagnosis, the use of medication, and the need for therapy. At one point he went on a rant saying that they wanted to test him for autism, but he knew he didn’t have it because he talks differently than them.
 
In Lucas's case I'd say the Abilify is for his schizo. Since you mention weight gain on the meds, I wouldn't doubt he got off them to not gain anymore weight and to drop the weight he'd gained.

A lot of people do that, unfortunately; the whole quitting meds because of weight gain instead of going back to their doctor and looking into a different medication combo that might not do that. I know if I'd dropped over 100lb then got on meds that made me start gaining weight again I'd be very inclined to stop taking them as well (which is not a good mindset, obviously).

Most psych meds have a side effect of weight gain to some degree but Abilify's is specifically mentioned as a "call your doctor right away" as if you get the rapid weight gain it often leads to the drug inducing type 2 diabetes as well. I liked how it affected my mental health so they just had me test my blood sugar regularly and watch to see if I gained anymore weight and when both stayed stable, it was cool to stop doing the blood sugar testing.
Not stoked about the 15lb weight gain that I still haven't been able to fully get rid of but I'd rather be a little overweight and mentally stable than skinny and a trainwreck.

Lithium is also a really common one that causes weight gain but in lithium's case it's usually due to it affecting the person's thyroid, which can be treated with the same meds used to treat regular hypothyroidism if it's otherwise working and there are no other side effects.
His problem there might be being able to get a referral to an endo to test his thyroid levels since he's on SSDI or SSI, I forget which. If he couldn't get one or didn't know to ask for one (psychs not discussing potential side effects in detail with their patients is an entire novel length rant), it'd likely be way out of the range of what he could afford.

Weight gain that's medication caused is an absolute bitch, and not the kind that won't fuck Lucas, to get rid of if you have to take those meds on an ongoing, lifelong basis too.
It's a struggle for me to maintain my weight with being very careful about my diet and making sure I get a lot of intense exercise 5-6 days out of the week. Lucas eats like garbage and doesn't get exercise beyond walking, which would 100% make him put on a lot of weight on most psych meds.


If it's not that, people, especially people who have symptoms that make it difficult to impossible to function without meds run into that, "Well, I feel better now, so I can stop taking them" and not stopping to realize that the reason they feel better and aren't experiencing symptoms is because of the meds.
I've very nearly fallen into that trap many, many times before because my brain is a filthy liar, which is why I voluntarily drug it into behaving, but I thankfully have a social support system in family and friends who will remind me very loudly that I feel better/am not having symptoms because of the medication and if I stop it'll all come back.

He definitely doesn't have a support system at all and doesn't seem to have any family or friends that live anywhere near him anymore and I could easily see him having quit his meds both for weight gain reasons and because his liar of a brain told him since he didn't have the symptoms he had before he was "better" and didn't need the meds anymore.

Lucas doesn't seem like the sort of person who's able to be loud about advocating for himself in any situation, let alone in a mental health or medical setting, though and he certainly doesn't have a case worker or a legal guardian that can do it for him. Not sure what kind of case worker he has that manages his money but if they don't also do regular mental health checks on him I'd agree with those SOFALAW screenshots, it needs to go back to court to get someone appointed to have the legal right to do that and make sure he keeps taking his meds before he harms someone else or himself.

Honestly, on the mental health front, I just feel bad for him.
It's not funny, it's not entertaining, it's not amusing, it's just...really sad.
Having a shit brain and mental health problems and no social support system is a terrible combination for anyone to have to go through.

Lucas talked about his schizophrenia years ago. He was open about it back then, more recently he has denied having it and makes it a point to say he only has bipolar. His mother Has always maintained that he struggled with schizophrenia, even as recently release from his last hospital stay.

As we recently discovered, he ditched his medication a year ago. Sometime within the last year he talks about his doubt about his diagnosis, the use of medication, and the need for therapy. At one point he went on a rant saying that they wanted to test him for autism, but he knew he didn’t have it because he talks differently than them.

It's possible he's got both too. Not all that uncommon for schizophrenia to be comorbid with bipolar, and that combination usually gets thrown under the schizoaffective disorders umbrella.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if he was somewhere on the autism spectrum either, especially with his hyperfixations and lack of ability to interact with other people successfully for very long.

Looking at that one blog post in the archives that his mom made years ago, I'd be very surprised if whatever bizarre high fever-and-rash thing he had as a young child didn't cause enough brain damage to give him lifelong behavioral and mental health problems.

TL;DR: Dude's got scrambled brains that need to be on lifelong meds, which everyone in this entire post has known for years.

Edit: Missing words. I English Good this evening.
 
It's possible he's got both too. Not all that uncommon for schizophrenia to be comorbid with bipolar, and that combination usually gets thrown under the schizoaffective disorders umbrella.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if he was somewhere on the autism spectrum either, especially with his hyperfixations and lack of ability to interact with other people successfully for very long.


Looking at that one blog post in the archives that his mom made years ago, I'd be very surprised if whatever bizarre high fever-and-rash thing he had as a young child caused enough brain damage to give him lifelong behavioral and mental health problems.

TL;DR: Dude's got scrambled brains that need to be on lifelong meds, which everyone in this entire post has known for years.
Yea, that looks to be what's going on in his head. I think at one time his family did try to help, but Lucas gets so out of it, they could only do so much. After, they just let the state handle him.
 
In Lucas's case I'd say the Abilify is for his schizo. Since you mention weight gain on the meds, I wouldn't doubt he got off them to not gain anymore weight and to drop the weight he'd gained.
Honestly some people just don’t like being medicated. Some people start feeling better so they stop taking medication. Some people don’t like the side effects. You really never know
 
Yea, that looks to be what's going on in his head. I think at one time his family did try to help, but Lucas gets so out of it, they could only do so much. After, they just let the state handle him.
Anybody know what needs to happen if or when psych meds can be mandated? Is that even a thing?
 
Yea, that looks to be what's going on in his head. I think at one time his family did try to help, but Lucas gets so out of it, they could only do so much. After, they just let the state handle him.

Cases like his make me wish it were easier in the US to force someone to stay on their meds or easier to get medical power of attorney over someone who clearly is not capable of making their own medical decisions and also fully understand why it isn't easy which is a very frustrating opinion combination to have. 🤪
 
The thought of Lucas being held to a gurney and pills forcibly tubed down his throat as he gargles insane shit about not taking his magical pedo senses away is quite an image.

Edit: I Don't Care Because I Don't Like You

Sometimes his video titles alone give enough material of interest. Regarding the title, the feeling is entirely mutual, but a point of confusion seems to be that Lucas thinks his haydurs want him to like them. His false-equivalences of anybody who finds his behaviour offensive or entertaining with himself is particularly blind. The invisible group of detractors who he can only respond to by imagining that they are all the same person live their own diverse lives outside of their occasional discussion of him. Lucas is the one living a Truman Show nightmare, broadcasting his every failure to a tiny community of bypassers.
 
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Anybody know what needs to happen if or when psych meds can be mandated? Is that even a thing?
I don't know for sure, but thinking through a court order.

Cases like his make me wish it were easier in the US to force someone to stay on their meds or easier to get medical power of attorney over someone who clearly is not capable of making their own medical decisions and also fully understand why it isn't easy which is a very frustrating opinion combination to have. 🤪
I remembered, on his twitter he replied to someone that his mother is bipolar. So there is a genetic pass down, but he ended up with a more extreme form of mental illness.
 
Honestly some people just don’t like being medicated. Some people start feeling better so they stop taking medication. Some people don’t like the side effects. You really never know

Yep, and a lot of the time the "don't like it" part could so easily be fixed by switching which meds they're on or what the dosage is up.

It took me almost 10 years and four different psychs to find both a decent psych and to get my medications and their doses tweaked to where they worked at a level where, other than just taking the pills themselves, I wouldn't even know I were medicated because I'm pretty close Normal Person Functional now.

I'd been on combinations before that made me feel drugged, out of it, like I was watching myself do things rather than doing them (disassociating, I guess), and one drug they put me on silenced every noise and voice in my head which might have been fine if I didn't do a lot of creative fiction stuff for D&D that, for me, kind of required I be allowed to 'make' voices for NPCs.

For an actual schizophrenic, that'd probably be a goddamned blessing, having your mind go instantly quiet like that, for me it was just terrifying, especially when I couldn't make the voices I'd put there on purpose come back.

Ended up lying and saying the medication gave me a rash so they wouldn't argue about switching me (let's face it, if you tell your psych, "I don't like this medication, I can't hear the voices in my head anymore" they're probably going to give you some pushback about switching meds!) to something different and it took almost a full six months before I was able to be useful for designing D&D campaigns for the group I was in at the time.

A few combos made me hallucinate, some just made me completely spaced out all the time, and finding a combination and dose that worked and also didn't leave me feeling like I was a doped up zombie was a long, annoying, pain in the ass process.

Absolutely hated all of those past drug combos and if I hadn't already been in the mindset of, "We're trying to find a good combination for you, if this one doesn't work, we'll switch it up" or if I'd just taken that doctor at her word that this was the medication I needed to be on I know I'd have quit taking it and just wouldn't have told her.


If he was on a combo that made him regain weight and made him feel like he was drugged, I can easily see him just stopping his meds.

Anybody know what needs to happen if or when psych meds can be mandated? Is that even a thing?

The basic, basic version is he'd either have to do something that was a clear attempt to harm himself or others, cause a lot of disturbances, then either his case worker or his family would have to bring it to court to get him declared incapable of making his own medical decisions and he'd likely end up back in a psych ward to get stabilized then have to live in a supervised group home where they could legally make him take his medications on a daily basis.

It's incredibly difficult to get medical power of attorney over an adult in the US who hasn't been diagnosed with cognitive issues that make it clear to any reasonable person that they aren't capable of understanding or making medical decisions for themselves. When you see it, it's usually done with elderly dementia/alzheimers patients, people who have had a severe brain injury, or people who have had lifelong cognitive issues or delays.

He'd basically have to be declared incompetent by the courts to get him into a situation where he'd be forced to take and stay on meds, and that's a difficult, long, expensive process if he's not considered to be an imminent or realistic threat to himself or others.

If all they could prove is that he's being erratic or that he'd tried or was seriously considering harming himself or others, they might be able to get him involuntarily committed again to get him stable but once he was let out, without the court turning over legal medical power of attorney over to either a court appointed guardian or his actual parents, he'd be free to go off of his meds as soon as they let him go back to his flophouse.

He might stay on them for a few months if his case worker or his parents were checking up on him temporarily and in person to make sure he was still doing okay but I'd bet once those wellness checks stopped he'd drop the meds.

I don't know for sure, but thinking through a court order.

I remembered, on his twitter he replied to someone that his mother is bipolar. So there is a genetic pass down, but he ended up with a more extreme form of mental illness.

Don't be silly.

He has superior genetics due to those long telomeres, and an 18-24 year old woman would guarantee literally no diseases, mental illness, or autism at all. Haven't you been listening for the past four years?

People with long telomeres don't get mental illness, remember?

It's only us freaks with our laughably short telomeres because our dads were most likely under 40 and our mothers older than 24 that get things like Defective Head Meat, The Autism, Diabeetus, and Other Problems.
 
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