Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Creep3r]

It's not a bad idea, but robot armies don't have quite the same "WTF?" alienness to them as the Vong in the SW setting.

But have you seen the droids from the Vong's galaxy?

These things (the Silentium) were getting dangerously close to becoming like organic beings, already being able to reproduce and think like a living being, in even more effective ways. Imagine how advanced they would become eventually. Some kind of horrific silicone entity that defies pre-conceived notions of mortality and life in almost unnerving ways. Then there's the other "race" of droids the Abominors whose shape and size is determined by what they consume, to the point where some can grow to the size of planets and form into hideous metal monstrosities that varies from things like Battle Bots to fucking eldritch Big Gete Star-tier abominations.

It was titanic planet-destroying nightmares like this that made the Vong hate technology for life.

Also

Reminder:
The plot of Plan IX is on page 1023.
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/star-...-about-last-jedi.32492/page-1023#post-5728521
For those interested in Galaxy's Edge info, shit's covered on page 499 and onward.
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/star-...y-about-last-jedi.32492/page-499#post-4776843
For those interested in the worst DisneyEU novel, go to the Chuck Wendig thread, somewhere around page 10 for chapter screencaps.
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chuck-wendig-charles-wendig-terribleminds.48930/page-10
For a detailed breakdown of box office info for every Disney Wars films, plus statistics, analytical shit, and China's relation to Disney Wars profits, see page 633.
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/star-...y-about-last-jedi.32492/page-633#post-5227376
For those interested in where all the Hell of leaks starts, its on page 377.
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/star-wars-griefing-thread-formerly-about-last-jedi.32492/page-377

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Well, I guess the leak confirms us Kathleen might get the boot now.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

It just blows my mind that no one in the FO bats an eye that their supreme leader just died and was replaced by a dude blown up 30 years ago.

This would be like fighting for ISIS when AlBaghadidi just unceremoniously gets shot by another Sunni goon, and then you wake up and inshallah here comes zombie Saddam Hussein with porno stache, mirrored ray bans, and beret.

 

[Love Machine]

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But have you seen the droids from the Vong's galaxy?
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The vong was the next logical step. I have no idea why they wouldnt do it. Its not like it would be breaking new ground in any way. Lucus did a war with 2 completely different factions.
You even get to give boba the side movie you wanted to when you make him become mandalore.

 

[Poe-Shen Zcela]

The way I see it is this: since we're never going to get either a good Terminator or a good Star Wars movie, then I might as well hope Lucasfilm decides to mix the two and give us a little bit of both, turning the Dark Trooper into the Star Wars equivalent of SkyNet/Terminators:

The Mandalorian seems like a great place to test his out. I already liked what they did with the New Republic guard droids.

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

You know what's really fucking funny? The fact that probably are gonna mention the word "Snoke" zero times.

It will never not be hilarious to me that Snoke was built up as the ultimate evil that would replace Palpatine until literally the halfway point of the trilogy where he's unceremoniously killed off and never mentioned again.

 

[Love Machine]

It just blows my mind that no one in the FO bats an eye that their supreme leader just died and was replaced by a dude blow up 30 years ago.

This would be like fighting for ISIS and AlBaghadidi just unceremoniously gets shot by another Sunnis goon, and then you wake up and inshallah here comes zombie Saddam Hussein with porno stache, mirrored ray bans, and beret.

well there is a simple answer bud. Just imagine this with someone who throws violent temper tantrums with a light saber aswell.

 

[TheMysteriousAHole]

Well, I guess the leak confirms us Kathleen might get the boot now.

I could be wrong here but even if the film fails to perform significently, I'm not sure she's going to officially leave until her contract is over. Anything prior would be Disney admitting that they made a mistake and you know how much these companies hate admitting mistakes.

 

[DogEatDogFood]

It will never not be hilarious to me that Snoke was built up as the ultimate evil that would replace Palpatine until literally the halfway point of the trilogy where he's unceremoniously killed off and never mentioned again.

Expectations subverted






Wait, how that we don't have any villain for the next film? Just revive Palpatine or something, I dunno

 

[Cyril Sneer]

Would she be Palpatine or that bitch in the comics who apparently was doing everything because Palpatine somehow was less than useless and she was the one calling all the shots?

Just saying that Ridley is more of a tool for Kennedy than a villain in her own right (not that she's blameless either, mind you).

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Yeah, I just like the Vong's aesthetic better. I also think they work a little bit better as antagonists, since they're alien to the ways of the GFFA, but they're not so alien that they're incomprehensible to the minds of the audience. There's potential there to eventually see where they're coming from (while still acknowledging that how they're coming from there is completely deranged), which creates a nice moral quandary (especially for the Jedi) in how far to go in fighting them, which I don't think you can quite derive from a hostile mass of Gray Goo, at least not in the same way.

 

[Creep3r]

I could be wrong here but even if the film fails to perform significently, I'm not sure she's going to officially leave until her contract is over. Anything prior would be Disney admitting that they made a mistake and you know how much these companies hate admitting mistakes.

Not to mention Daddy Spielberg has her covered on all fronts. She's probably not gonna get her contract renewed though.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I think antagonistic Empires are a little over-played in SW at this point. I mean, we've got, what? The Galactic Empire, the Infinite Empire, the Old Sith Empire, the New Sith Empire, the One Sith Empire...

I said it before but I will repeat it. Disney missed a golden opportunity for exploring the idea of "winning a war". In our complicated world, one thing that we are constsntly running into is what happens to a revolution or to Team America after they win the fight and take out the big bad? It often turns out overthrowing the tyrant was the easy part. Putting the pieces back together is what is hard.

In my dreams I have this story. It's a good story.

The New Republic is desperately trying to assert its control of a Galaxy that has been plunged into chaos by the collapse of the Empire. Han, Luke and Leia are working TOGETHER to put together the institutions necessary for a functional State but are constantly being undermined by criminal organizations like the Hutts and a roaring insurgency campaign by Imperial die hards.

A major base of Imperial Insurrectionists is on Jakku, and General Han Solo who is now in charge of military operations (much to his private angst) orders a strike take them out. Unfortunately there is collateral damage. A young girl is orphaned when her parents are killed by an Imperial Tie Fighter that gets shot down by an x wing crashes into her home.

Orphaned and bereft she flees into the desert to escape the fighting. Alone, afraid and full of rage, she calls to the Dark Side of the Force subconciously and it responds to her when she is accosted by a bandit. She manages to force pull the bandits blaster from his hand and shoots him stone dead. This disturbance in the Dark Side attracts the attention of an Old Hermit who is living on Jakku. Who just so happens to be one of Darth Vaders secret apprentices. He teaches the young girl the ways of the sith, exploring their own moral philosophy, such as it is in the process. She then goes on to join the "resistance" against the New Republic.

And after that the sky is the limit. It would have subverted the traditional hero story, but in a good way. An interesting way. A way that would make you say "huh, that is different. Instead we get JJ Abrams hackery.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

I think @Shmuckleburg's /tg/ post may be on to something. Palpatine is the only who wins out in any of this (except the part where Rey fucks his shit up a la Korra), like a fucking chaos demon gone rogue.


Well we know all the main characters are straight as arrows now. Which means either JJ is a baiting woke bullshitter or Dr. Aphra's ship really does appear in this movie or you only see two ambiguous fags hugging in the background.

Lets consider the fact that even after this movie he wins.

His Granddaughter Rey, a Palpatine, has more raw force power than the Skywalkers ever had; Moreover, not only does the last Skywalker give his very life-force to Palpatine's Heir, causing the extinction of the Skywalker line, but Rey then usurps the surname just because she can. Imagine that level of domination on your enemy that you reduce them to only a title to be claimed at will by your children. It doesn't even matter that she opposed him, because 20 years down the line you just know they'll retcon things slightly and have Sheev possesses her in another 9d hyper-chess move, further fucking over the galaxy just because he can.

Based Sheev.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

If Carrie hadn't died, what do you suppose her role would have been here? Obviously people are saying she would have gone the way of Luke circa ROTJ, but I can't help but feel she would have been butchered characterwise

 

[Kari Kamiya]

You know, even the prequels had famous scenes.... at least a few. maul vs obi wan, all the sheev scenes, order 66, even the younglings. But i cant think of anything from the new trilogy. Thats the saddest part, I will at least find solace if we have at least 1 last.... sheev scene.

Kylo Ren killing Han is just the perfect visual of the entire ST. It's what I keep thinking back to whenever I try to figure out what the ST is about.

 

[Creep3r]

If Carrie hadn't died, what do you suppose her role would have been here? Obviously people are saying she would have gone the way of Luke circa ROTJ, but I can't help but feel she would have been butchered characterwise

If I remember right, I recall reading that nu-Lucasfilm's plan was to have Leia be the true Last Jedi, teach Rey and eventually become the true jedi master with her own academy and the leader of the NEW New Republic or some shit like that. Not sure where that was though, but I think someone posted it in the thread or was mentioned in a youtube video maybe? Anyone remember?

 

[Optimus Prime]

I said it before but I will repeat it. Disney missed a golden opportunity for exploring the idea of "winning a war". In our complicated world, one thing that we are constsntly running into is what happens to a revolution or to Team America after they win the fight and take out the big bad? It often turns out overthrowing the tyrant was the easy part. Putting the pieces back together is what is hard.

This is part of why I love the first Thrawn book. Thrawn's running around with a bunch of star destroyers and shit while the New Republic is busy infighting because now that the empire is basically gone, you have a bunch of infighting. Ackbar himself is trying to get commerce moving again by straight up sending Han Solo to recruit smugglers into doing legal business on part of the new republic, because they have ships. And then there's that fur-coated asshole who basically is trying (and I think succeeds) in ursurping Ackbar because he's playing the 'oh the war's over stop with being this armed and shit' even after Thrawn's plan to rebuild the Imperial Fleet by literally stealing the Republic's from their own shipyards only narrowly gets thwarted because of one single oversight on his part - he can't turn the boarding lasers off if they're activated remotely by the one dude who knows the control frequencies - that dude being Lando.

 

[Marissa Moira]

I'm already hearing people saying how "deep" this movie and whole trilogy is.

All it is, is explaining away the badness of it as some kind of subversion. Not that wasn't really bad it was actually good, you're just too stupid to understand.

 

[TheMysteriousAHole]

I said it before but I will repeat it. Disney missed a golden opportunity for exploring the idea of "winning a war". In our complicated world, one thing that we are constsntly running into is what happens to a revolution or to Team America after they win the fight and take out the big bad? It often turns out overthrowing the tyrant was the easy part. Putting the pieces back together is what is hard.

What you wrote in the rest of your message is a similar idea I had a while back myself of what could have been a great sequel trilogy or even a pen-and-paper RPG campaign if I was still doing that (West End Game's Star Wars The Roleplaying Game was my thing). I'd have it set circa 20 to 30 years after Endor and it would've dealt with the fall-out of not only the Galactic Civil War but also the Clone Wars. Because I don't see various pre-existing problems going away so easy even after two wars in the span of decades. You still got planets that want independence from a central authority. You still have big corporations trying their best to fuck over the average person. I could go on and on but neither the Galactic Empire nor the New Republic would have enough time to address everything. Not to mention competing governments like the Imperial Remanent but I best stop here before I ramble pointlessly.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Its Already being considered for Oscars......