Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Doctor of Autism]

Its so intresting seeing a huge franchise go down from an outside perspective, i have no idea how they could fuck a golden goose this big, but they raped that goose real good

This is the ultimate mistake in hiring Kathleen Kennedy to run the series, if anyone else who actually cared about Star Wars was chosen to run the movies, then these movies would just be mediocre in the worst case scenario instead of being the Twilight of the 2010s

 

[Gehenna]

JJ didn’t ruin this movie, he was given a turd and polished it into a slightly shinier but still turdy turd. Given the constraints he was working in, I still doubt he made it the best movie it could have been, but even that hypothetical “best” version of TRoS would have still been a turd.

Aye, this. I have tons of complains about J. J., but no matter how good someone is you cannot salvage what Johnson left. You can, at very best, mitigate the damage... but not even really that, as Johnson hard-baked in the worst of his damages.

 

[Scarface1]

Hello Everyone.
Like many others i have decided to make an account after the off-topic threads went dark for guests.
First i'd like to thank everyone for this wild ride, wich is only going to get wilder in the next months to come.

As for the recent confimation of the leaks... It's amazing.
Despite the media and all the woke shills praise Ma-rey Sue for being such a strong and independent WHAMEN, she ends up having feelings for Darth School shooter to the point of resurecting him.
Not only Disney fucked over Star Wars fans in general but also the identity politics crowd in favor for some people with questionable ideas about romance.
I'ts Game of Thrones season 8 all over again, but also WORSE somehow.
Incredible.

Can't wait for the bootleg recordings to finaly show up, IT'S GONNA BE GREAT

 

[Rotollo]

Aye, this. I have tons of complains about J. J., but no matter how good someone is you cannot salvage what Johnson left. You can, at very best, mitigate the damage... but not even really that, as Johnson hard-baked in the worst of his damages.

I'm still wondering what Johnson damaged more, the film or the fanbase's conscientious?
the films had absolutely no where to go yes, but after TLJ it seemed like the fanbase had 20 different factions wanting very different things, where before it was very simple what they wanted.

 

[ZehnBoat]

I wonder if they'll pull a Highlander Endgame and ask fans to pick which ending they prefer.

nah, it's gonna be like clue

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Aye, this. I have tons of complains about J. J., but no matter how good someone is you cannot salvage what Johnson left. You can, at very best, mitigate the damage... but not even really that, as Johnson hard-baked in the worst of his damages.

Actually it still is JJ's fault because TLJ turned out to be really bad only because Johnson literally had no idea what the fuck to do with the movie as JJ had no plan while Kathleen Kennedy didn't give a shit.

 

[Ken Burns' Flask]

...and before that it was Joss Whedon and his quipping characters. To this day that sarcastic tone has ruined any chance of drama or tension in a story.
That said, JJ is way worse because even if his contract with a company ends, it still gives him enough time to leave one of his Bad Robot people behind at a high creative position in that company (Kurtzman owning Star Trek at CBS, Michelle Rejwan as VP of the live-action department of Disney/LF, he probably already has someone at Warner while he's working on Superman and Green Lantern).

At this point, what's left for JJ to taint? SeaQuest?

 

[Poe-Shen Zcela]

Man I miss middle school. Come along and let's do the timewarp again:

At this point, what's left for JJ to taint? SeaQuest?

DC

 

[Gehenna]

Actually it still is JJ's fault because TLJ turned out to be really bad only because Johnson literally had no idea what the fuck to do with the movie as JJ had no plan while Kathleen Kennedy didn't give a shit.

That is wrong, though. Abrams wrote out plans for BOTH sequels and gave them to Johnson. Johnson is ON RECORD saying he asked Kennedy if he could just throw that all out, and was given the greenlight.

 

[Shield Breaker]

J J has an unenviable task. Just how the hell do you make a follow-up that fixes everything in under 3 hours AND make a good movie somehow. It's impossible.

Newhart Finale

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Just replace Bob and his wife with Luke and Mara.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

That is wrong, though. Abrams wrote out plans for BOTH sequels and gave them to Johnson. Johnson is ON RECORD saying he asked Kennedy if he could just throw that all out, and was given the greenlight.

Can you give a source on this? I never heard this before.

 

[Gehenna]

Can you give a source on this? I never heard this before.

Correction, Ridley is the one who revealed it.

'Star Wars: The Last Jedi': Rian Johnson Reportedly Scrapped J.J. Abrams' Episode 8 Script

Star Wars: The Last Jedi star Daisy Ridley seems to have revealed that director Rian Johnson scrapped the JJ Abrams Episode 8 story, starting the sequel's story from scratch.

www.slashfilm.com

Preeminent quote:

“J.J. wrote ‘Episode VII,’ he also wrote drafts for ‘VIII’ & ‘IX.’ Then Rian arrived and re-wrote [‘The Last Jedi’] entirely. I believe there was some sort of general consensus on the main storylines that would happen in the trilogy, but apart from that, we agreed that every director should probably make his movie his own way. Rian and J. J. Abrams met many times to discuss ‘The Last Jedi,’ although ‘Episode VIII’ is very much mostly Rian’s and I do believe Rian didn’t keep anything from the first draft of the ‘Episode VIII’ script.”

 

[Miller]

At this point, what's left for JJ to taint? SeaQuest?

Now that he's working with Warner I would say... Babylon 5.

 

[AtomicAgeBoy]

WATCHING HATERS WONDER WHY PALPATINE'S MAKE THAT ASS NUMB
MARY SUE JEDI, I MAKE HER UNITED KING-COME
GOT HER TITS DONE, TAPED DOWN, NOW SHE'S SO FLAT
PALPY'S SO INSENSITIVE, SHE ASKING "WHY YOU SAY THAT?"
I'M CHILLIN', REAL NIGGA FEELIN'
DARK FORCE USER, PAINT ME AS A VILLAIN
STILL MAKING MY COME BACK, I AM, THE KEY
CAN'T DIE 'CAUSE OF JJ, IT'S POE, EH-TRY

As i fell to my demise through the star of death
I look at myself and realize i'm not yet dead
'Coz I've been soul hopping' and cloning ' so long, that
Even Darth Plagueis thinks I have gone too far
But I ain't never crossed a Republic that didn't deserve it
A senate without me? you know that's unheard of
You better watch how you're talkin', and where you're walkin'
Or you and your Jedi' might be force lightninged to dust
I really hate to spoil but I'm alive
As my powers grow I see myself in MaRey Sue soon.
I'm the kinda sith the little padawans wanna be like
On my throne in exegol, sayin' POWWEEER in the lighting light

Been spendin' most of this time,
planning my revenge' in Sith paradise
Been spendin' most of this time,
planning my revenge' in Sith paradise
Still spendin' all of the time,
planning my revenge' in Sith paradise
Still spendin' all of the time,
planning my revenge' in Sith paradise

 

[Rotollo]

At this point, what's left for JJ to taint? SeaQuest?

the worst 80s nostalgia retred possible if he wants to rip off Spielberg, Back to the Future when rob zemekis dies

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Correction, Ridley is the one who revealed it.

'Star Wars: The Last Jedi': Rian Johnson Reportedly Scrapped J.J. Abrams' Episode 8 Script

Star Wars: The Last Jedi star Daisy Ridley seems to have revealed that director Rian Johnson scrapped the JJ Abrams Episode 8 story, starting the sequel's story from scratch.

www.slashfilm.com

Preeminent quote:

“J.J. wrote ‘Episode VII,’ he also wrote drafts for ‘VIII’ & ‘IX.’ Then Rian arrived and re-wrote [‘The Last Jedi’] entirely. I believe there was some sort of general consensus on the main storylines that would happen in the trilogy, but apart from that, we agreed that every director should probably make his movie his own way. Rian and J. J. Abrams met many times to discuss ‘The Last Jedi,’ although ‘Episode VIII’ is very much mostly Rian’s and I do believe Rian didn’t keep anything from the first draft of the ‘Episode VIII’ script.”

Well shit, this either confirms one of these things:

A. Rian is an autist who wanted to have direct creative control despite doing the middle act of JJ's story.

B. Rian wanted to fuck over Disney Wars as deep down he hated these movies. Specially given the jabs at TFA in TLJ.

 

[Gehenna]

Well shit, this either confirms one of these things:

A. Rian is an autist who wanted to have direct creative control despite doing the middle act of JJ's story.

B. Rian wanted to fuck over Disney Wars as deep down he hated these movies. Specially given the jabs at TFA in TLJ.

Welcome to Disney Wars, every new fact you learn makes it worse.

 

[Jaimas]

J. J. gets ts the benefit of the fact even Spielberg couldn't salvage what johnson left. He's not a good writer or director, but its hard to hate a man when the travesty he created isn't really his fault.

I intend to gloat with all the spite I can muster when JJ and Abrams are inevitably fired. Kathleen Kennedy will likely escape via Golden Parachute, but so long as she's never allowed to fuck up another movie for the next few years I'm fine with that occurrence.

The decision to turn the whole of Episode VIII into a protracted fuck-you session towards the fandom is one that deserves to be immortalized as a warning to future generations that hubris comes with too high a price. Abrams may have been a low-talent hack, but Johnson wasn't fit to lick the boots of those who worked on Star Wars before him, Abrams included, and the decision to hire the giggling wiggle-head is a decision that brought ruination upon this series, bringing it from a property that is literally a license to print money to a property that can't make money in China and whose merchandise barely sells, all in less than three years.

Years from now this will be remembered as a bigger embarassment than Ghostbusters (2016), Season 8 of Game of Thrones, and Terminator: Dark Fate combined. I honestly thought that the 2019 UK Elections was going to be the biggest fuck you from the public this year, but it very much looks like TRoS may prove me wrong.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

...and before that it was Joss Whedon and his quipping characters. To this day that sarcastic tone has ruined any chance of drama or tension in a story.

I would love to see blockbusters start to go all nu-metal/emo/grunge in their writing and tone in 2020 so we can move on from Whedon, along with getting away from the woke approach.

 

[Ken Burns' Flask]

Now that he's working with Warner I would say... Babylon 5.

As much as I would hate JJ touching that, Babylon 5 did kind of manage to do the "epic cinematic universe" way before anyone else. Under the right management, some kind of successor or reboot might work, but the cynic in me says too much of B5 was lightning in a bottle.