DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell - General Discussion

[Salubrious]

Which is fucking insanity considering at one point in his sad little life, dude was making what... twice as much as he is now?

If I, or any one of you had been making the kind of bank he has been making the last 10 years we’d have a nice modern home paid off, 1-2 solid paid off cars, a happy wife and a couple of kids and a juicy nest egg for retirement.

He has: A car payment, 2 mortgages, loans, and mountains of credit card debt after making easily over 1 million dollars in the last decade. I’ve seen better money management skills from crack heads.

A million dollars in 10 years. Do you people realize that?????? And people have the fucking nerve to feel bad for him? Just wow.

He was making almost $300,000 at his high water mark

The amazing part to me is that because of the way he spent his money (food, trips, things that depreciate in value, et cetera), DSP is absolutely nothing to show for all the money he's made. It's not like he bought a few cars or some Rolexs and has to sell them at 40 cents on the dollar now. He has no way to even "raise funds" to pay off the CT mortgage unless he sold his WA condo and downsized, which he refuses to even consider.

 

[King Daddy Telomerase]

But, these excessive e-beggars won't go away. If anything, giving them more money causes them to stream less and give less effort. If you're in it for comedy or trolling, there's no question that less money drives that up. That's why it's so hard to understand. The only thing you "gain" by throwing money at them is watching them recklessly spend on shit they don't need.

 

[BallBuster]

The amazing part to me is that because of the way he spent his money (food, trips, things that depreciate in value, et cetera), DSP is absolutely nothing to show for all the money he's made. It's not like he bought a few cars or some Rolexs and has to sell them at 40 cents on the dollar now. He has no way to even "raise funds" to pay off the CT mortgage unless he sold his WA condo and downsized, which he refuses to even consider.

If the bank decides to come at Phil big dick swinging (and why wouldn’t if they subpoena his tax returns which they will likely do) he may not have a choice. The one time he is facing serious shit to where selling the WA condo may be the only way out and he doesn’t mention it.

Perhaps he realizes he’s tapped that well one too many times crying wolf in the last?

 

[That Hedonist Nerd]

The amazing part to me is that because of the way he spent his money (food, trips, things that depreciate in value, et cetera), DSP is absolutely nothing to show for all the money he's made. It's not like he bought a few cars or some Rolexs and has to sell them at 40 cents on the dollar now. He has no way to even "raise funds" to pay off the CT mortgage unless he sold his WA condo and downsized, which he refuses to even consider.

Normally we could entertain that perhaps it's all a clever ruse, that he had all this money saved up and is just trying to milk every extra dollar possible while the limelight fades - I know I would. But I don't think I'd go so far as to destroy my credit for a ruse - unless I had so much money in the bank that it really didn't matter what my credit does, because I could buy everything I could possibly want in the next 10 years in cash.

 

[Pargon]

If the bank decides to come at Phil big dick swinging (and why wouldn’t if they subpoena his tax returns which they will likely do) he may not have a choice. The one time he is facing serious shit to where selling the WA condo may be the only way out and he doesn’t mention it.

Perhaps he realizes he’s tapped that well one too many times crying wolf in the last?

To this and anyone else saying they're surprised Phil isn't reacting more/harder, that he may have already been bailed out, etc. You are not wrong, and he may have been. But consider that in the few instances in which we have seen Phil confronted with actual adversity of any kind, he has a 100% track record of meekly capitulating and making no sign of confrontation whatsoever. I'm thinking primarily of his beef with Jaha, which ended with Phil trying to turn it into a no-big-deal joke and Jaha dropping it all out of pity.

"Act like nothing's wrong and nothing will be" is something we've seen him adopt in the past. I have no doubt that Phil is not talking shit because he believes doing so would dig the hole he's in even deeper. He's not going to say a damn word for fear of him seeing some kind of reprisal, whether that might actually happen or not. I'm certain that he's terrified of legal action.

 

[Synth]

But, these excessive e-beggars won't go away. If anything, giving them more money causes them to stream less and give less effort. If you're in it for comedy or trolling, there's no question that less money drives that up. That's why it's so hard to understand. The only thing you "gain" by throwing money at them is watching them recklessly spend on shit they don't need.

Then stop watching, stop paying attention. Nobody is forcing you to be here. It's 100% likely that the 'detractor-sphere' existing keeps these people more relevant than they'd otherwise be, so you're adding to the problem you're complaining about.

Also, your line of thought on streaming less because of income is absurd. Plenty of streamers make bank and they know streaming makes them that money, so they stream more to keep that income flowing. Once you start streaming less, it takes time for people who were accustomed to a schedule to come back and feel like they can rely on you being there when they want to watch something. Imagine if some TV show you wanted to watch sporadically decided to not show when it's supposed to air. You might lose a little faith and be less interested.

The only time you can get away with this shit is books and movies, because those are things that take time to put together, and even then the fanbase gets irritated if the hiatus is too long. Serial work needs to be regular, and streaming is serial work.

I'd be willing to wager that more people would be disappointed than happy if Phil disappeared. The joy of seeing a manbaby sperging out at videogames and randoms in his chat is gone and they have to find someone else to fill that void. Call me an asshole for 'in-fighting' or whatever, but I just don't understand this level of zeal among parts of the 'detractor community', whatever semblance exists of such a thing.

 

[Nigel of Ukip]

Since some people still message Hassan Bokhari the Partner Manager at Twitch, you can use this clip and ask why he's yet to take action, or where one can report to a person and not a bot.

Source [ Here ] at 34:29, clip is from DEC 16, 2019.

In this clip Phil very clearly breaks TOS by even flat out admitting to hold bidding wars where you compete with TIPS ( Real money ) and BITS ( Made up money ).

To quote Twitch TOS found [ Here ].

Bits are not a money instrument

Bits are digital content intended to be purchased and consumed on Twitch, and do not serve as a currency.

Violations of this Policy

Any violations or attempted violations of this Policy by you (or any third party acting on your behalf) will constitute a violation of the Terms of Service, including this Policy, by you and a material breach of any other applicable agreement, and/or supplements to any applicable agreement(s), with Twitch.

While this has been spoken about before, milking a dead cow I'm aware, I don't remember it ever being so cleary put by Phil. So instead of spreading shitty memes, try spreading something that can lead somewhere.

 

[Georges St. Pierre]

At this point he just follows a script about bein' broke....

 

[TheTractor]

Since some people still message Hassan Bokhari the Partner Manager at Twitch, you can use this clip and ask why he's yet to take action, or where one can report to a person and not a bot.

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Source [ Here ] at 34:29, clip is from DEC 16, 2019.

In this clip Phil very clearly breaks TOS by even flat out admitting to hold bidding wars where you compete with TIPS ( Real money ) and BITS ( Made up money ).

To quote Twitch TOS found [ Here ].



While this has been spoken about before, jerking off a dead cow I'm aware, I don't remember it ever being so cleary put. So instead of spreading shitty memes, try spreading something that can lead somewhere.

I just reported it to twitch, maybe they hired someone that doesn't just lurk and masturbate to amouranth for once.

 

[SowonNation]

Since some people still message Hassan Bokhari the Partner Manager at Twitch, you can use this clip and ask why he's yet to take action, or where one can report to a person and not a bot.

PSA to anyone that intends to go ballistic and DM this dude about DSP and his most recent stream;
Hassan is in denial about this entire situation and doesn't care. You'll only get a screenshot copy-pasta as a response if you message him.

(granted that the message he replied to is low effort and probably doesn't even include the timestamp of the quote that Nigel referred to, but still).
There's literally no way to hold Twitch accountable for any TOS violation. Apparently, all the representatives that hand out bans/judge bannable offenses aren't on social media according to Hassan.
All we can do is pick a god and pray that one of our reports gets to the right person. Probably much lower chances than anyone of us winning the lottery tbh.

 

[Nigel of Ukip]

PSA to anyone that intends to go ballistic and DM this dude about DSP and his most recent stream;
Hassan is in denial about this entire situation and doesn't care. You'll only get a screenshot copy-pasta as a response if you message him.
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(granted that the message he replied to is low effort and probably doesn't even include the timestamp of the quote that Nigel referred to, but still).
There's literally no way to hold Twitch accountable for any TOS violation. Apparently, all the representatives that hand out bans/judge bannable offenses aren't on social media according to Hassan.
All we can do is pick a god and pray that one of our reports gets to the right person. Probably much lower chances than anyone of us winning the lottery tbh.

It's exactly these kind of people that shouldn't message anyone. If you want to achieve anything you might want to at the very fucking least put some effort into it, be polite and don't send messages like some utter sperg.

 

[SowonNation]

If you want to achieve anything you might want to at the very fucking least put some effort into it, be polite and not send messages like some utter sperg.

100% agree with you there. I obviously dm'd Hassan, and he seemed rather angry and rude. I'm not surprised that a guy like him is managing partnerships at Twitch.
It's almost like him and DSP took the same courses on gaslighting people, because the resemblance in both their behavior is rather uncanny.

That's what he told me. Those first two messages made it seem like he's some random Twitter whiteknight, but he's a fucking representative of Twitch. Think about it.

 

[gaarashatan]

PSA to anyone that intends to go ballistic and DM this dude about DSP and his most recent stream;
Hassan is in denial about this entire situation and doesn't care. You'll only get a screenshot copy-pasta as a response if you message him.
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(granted that the message he replied to is low effort and probably doesn't even include the timestamp of the quote that Nigel referred to, but still).
There's literally no way to hold Twitch accountable for any TOS violation. Apparently, all the representatives that hand out bans/judge bannable offenses aren't on social media according to Hassan.
All we can do is pick a god and pray that one of our reports gets to the right person. Probably much lower chances than anyone of us winning the lottery tbh.

yet he wont redirect them to a person they can report him to instead would rather suffer being harassed by phils viewers. sounds logical, almost like he isnt sticking up for phil. for fucking sure

 

[PieceofShet]

ALERT!!! ALERT!!!!

 

[Sparkletor]

ALERT!!! ALERT!!!!

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Or, y'know, he could run the sim on his copy of wwe 2019... It's not like anyone who likes his rêtarded wrestling sim event would care which version he plays.

 

[Pargon]

100% agree with you there. I obviously dm'd Hassan, and he seemed rather angry and rude. I'm not surprised that a guy like him is managing partnerships at Twitch.
It's almost like him and DSP took the same courses on gaslighting people, because the resemblance in both their behavior is rather uncanny.
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That's what he told me. Those first two messages made it seem like he's some random Twitter whiteknight, but he's a fucking representative of Twitch. Think about it.

Sounds like a nice little cadre of assholes who think they make their own rules. Pity that Twitch doesn't pay its own bills. Got to figure there's someone with Amazon in charge of Twitch oversight.

 

[Wing Zero]

ALERT!!! ALERT!!!!

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And nothing of value was lost.

 

[gh0stzero]

100% agree with you there. I obviously dm'd Hassan, and he seemed rather angry and rude. I'm not surprised that a guy like him is managing partnerships at Twitch.
It's almost like him and DSP took the same courses on gaslighting people, because the resemblance in both their behavior is rather uncanny.
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That's what he told me. Those first two messages made it seem like he's some random Twitter whiteknight, but he's a fucking representative of Twitch. Think about it.

"Nothing I could do these people have no social media presence."

Yeah this is DSP in twitch staff form.

 

[PieceofShet]

Or, y'know, he could run the sim on his copy of wwe 2019... It's not like anyone who likes his rêtarded wrestling sim event would care which version he plays.

Thats not how life works.

 

[Sparkletor]

Thats not how life works.

Well then I will have to work up a simulation DSP wrestling simulation ree-enacktment and post it in the RP thread so the fans won't feel left out.