Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[MadPanda]

Hey Josh I was at Texas Collection Con. Sonny had an excuse that he was apparently sick and couldn’t come. The handler who had an excuse for Sonny didn’t seem to have one for you on canceling. Why is that? So why didn’t you show faggot? Don’t you care about female fans like me who were there? What about Cynthia Cranz and Linda Young who were there and didn’t cancel? They shared a table with Vic and Chuck. Tell me Josh, if Vic is so evil why didn’t you want to stop Vic from sexually assaulting female fans and female coworkers?

Are you full of shit Josh? Is it really all just a lie Josh? Are you a coward Josh who couldn’t look Vic in the eyes after betraying him? Is it because you knew even Chichi would pull more of line than you? Is that the case Josh?

You know josh martin is someone I had really hoped who would not get involved recently. I mean he was not my favorite VA or anything, but he did voice one of my favorite DBZ villains(Buu). It is a shame he has to throw the temper tantrums like buu though. Well I did find the fight between buu and dabora funny as hell at least.

 

[Dopey Cunt]

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She looks like she belongs on Real Housewhores of Doesn't Know How To Let Shit Fucking Go. A 10 year difference should not make you look like you've aged 40 years. That's not something to be proud of, you shriveled old hag.

 

[Commander]

So late and gayer than Vic's pants, but nobody should feel bad about the Jesse dox. Let's take a step back into reality. This could take a toll for the worst if someone was stalking and using that information. KF just uses it to laugh and if they were able to obtain it then it isn't hard for anyone else to. Think of it more as a harsh lesson of the Internet that somebody gets to learn (and eat their own words) than feeling bad for doxing a kid. If it's gonna happen, better it be someone who really doesn't give a crap about using that info beyond exploiting it for laughs.

Also, Grug is a name I haven't heard of in a while. I got some news flash for ISWV: just because we don't like most KV people well pretty much every single one of them, and we like Vic does not mean we support ISWV. Besides, we've been "helping" the enemy for a long while now and Nick certainly has. I mean we literally are breaking down and analyzing everything being said which is free access info. Whether or not they listen or use that info is up to them. Besides, there could be a Kiwi on here that wants to bone Jamie Marchi for all I know. And if you do, get help immediately. No seriously, get help.

 

[P5Fever]

Vic has ascended above the gay pants, now he also has tentacles coming out of his coat:

Shadow (Beth) on Twitter

“It was a very great and fun weekend at Sonocon. Finally got to meet Todd and got to see Vic again. Always happy and honored to be able to support Vic. I will always stand with him.”

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Spoiler: Super Lasagna Man

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Man I got jipped. When I saw him at Texas Collection Con he was dressed downright normal. Why do all these other hoes get to enjoy his gay pants in person but not me?

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That is one heck of a jawline she has there. She has a cartoon character jawline, Manjaw must be jealous.

 

[Dopey Cunt]

I just want to throw in my two cents for people (both here and on twitter) that are under the impression that The Farms is firmly ISWV.
No. Just...no. Let me educate ya'll for a sec. Pay attention.

The Farms itself is NEUTRAL. The purpose of The Farms existing is that we comment on events that are happening either in general in the world or with certain individuals mostly on the internet. There is no movement here, there is no gay-ops here. Any information collected on this site is public information that literally anyone in the world can have access to. Non public information includes stuff like a full social security numbers, credit card numbers, and tax information (I think). But stuff like a home address, full names, e-mails, phone numbers, and date of births are all public information and thus information we are free to collect and archive here without breaking any law whatsoever. There's a reason why all those speds who tried to get Kiwi farms taken down failed. People from all over can use this site to gather information about someone. We're not responsible for what anyone does with that information, nor do we condone anything illegal that information may be used for.

For the most part, it is possible to support Vic without being part of the ISWV "movement" or whatever the fuck it's called. Some of us may or may not like Vic or may or may not even know who the bloke is or even be weebs, watch anime or even know what anime is, but we support the fact that the legal system should not be ignored in favor of using internet lynch mobs to pass judgment on people to the point where it affects their livelihoods. If you're gonna call someone a pedophile, rapist, sexual assaulter, then you better have the proof to back up your accusations if you want them to face justice. If you see assaults happen, you should not let them happen and then only bother to open your mouth about it 20 years later. There's a reason why police exist, there's a reason why courts exist and there's a reason why the legal system was put in place and why there's a records system in place to keep track of it all. This isn't the Salem Witch Trials anymore, we're not savages.

That being said, we laugh at those who align themselves with either ISWV or KV. It does not matter which side said person is on, if they do or say something stupid on the internet that catches our attention, then we laugh and make fun of them. No one controls what we do or say here. Not Vic, not Nick, not Ty, not anyone on ISWV or KV. No one. We do things of our own will because we want to. For those of you on KV who may be looking at this, no one is "rallying" us or siccing us on anyone or anything you speds. We're independent from all of this shit. Just because we want your side to lose, doesn't mean it's because we support ISWV or even Vic himself. It's because we support living in a world where there is order and a process for these kind of things and that people face justice the right way. Twitter is not the court of law.

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

Man I got jipped. When I saw him at Texas Collection Con he was dressed downright normal. Why do all these other hoes get to enjoy his gay pants in person but not me?

He only wears gay pants when hes about to rape. Vic doesnt even want to rape you, pathetic.

 

[P5Fever]

He only wears gay pants when hes about to rape. Vic doesnt even want to rape you, pathetic.

Dammit. No #BeThere for me I guess.

 

[Army Burger]

He only wears gay pants when hes about to rape. Vic doesnt even want to rape you, pathetic.

"HOW EMBARRASSING", one might say

 

[MadPanda]

There's a reason why police exist, there's a reason why courts exist and there's a reason why the legal system was put in place and why there's a records system in place to keep track of it all.

Also I wish to actually highlight this part and exclaim for many(even kiwis themselves) that yes the police can fail and sometimes the legal system can too. Almost all of us experienced it(with someone in our life) and sometimes we had to experience it first hand, but it is what we have and what we chose as a society to use over pistol dueling and church rulings. At least reporting it can help make your case later(yes I know people can lie on reports and some do), but again the effort has to be made at least. You are not a victim finally coming out, you are a coward that allowed others to most likely get hurt when you do not at least make some report.

GET IT IN FUCKING WRITING PEOPLE. If the police wont take a report for whatever reason and you feel you deserve to have them take one, THEN using social media/news organizations may be a way because then they either have to explain why they would not take one OR they can call bullshit on you OR you can get them into a bunch of hot water. You also would get your asspats you so desire and might even have more allies.

I know that statement is more geared towards going at the police if they fail to take a report, but again use the proper channels first for god sakes. Why do you think everyone was asking for a police report when they were telling these stupid metoo fanfictions.

edit:Ty has said it, Nick has said it, many have said it, but ill repeat it. If you continue to go down the non legal path that we, as a society, agreed upon(though not perfect and i am referring to the legal path), to ruin someones life with accusations, then do not be shocked if someone finally goes down the non legal path to ruin yours too.

 

[Mister Y]

Some are ranting about who is or isn't ISWV.
But I don't think there is a clear definition of what being ISWV means to begin with.
Is ISWV the people who use the tag on twitter? Is ISWV the people who donated to the GFM?
Does wanting Vic to get justice makes you ISWV? Does simply thinking Vis is innocent makes you ISWV?

Before arguing who is or isn't ISWV, you need to first check that you have the same definition of the group.
The same goes for KV by the way, for some it's only the funiclique, for others it's the whole following.

If I go by the mere definition of the acronym, i.e. "standing with Vic", then the farms are currently very ISWV.
Granted that's because he seems to be the victim so far, but who ever said ISWV implies anything else?

 

[PrinceofAllCucks]

Some are ranting about who is or isn't ISWV.
But I don't think there is a clear definition of what being ISWV means to begin with.
Is ISWV the people who use the tag on twitter? Is ISWV the people who donated to the GFM?
Does wanting Vic to get justice makes you ISWV? Does simply thinking Vis is innocent makes you ISWV?

Before arguing who is or isn't ISWV, you need to first check that you have the same definition of the group.
The same goes for KV by the way, for some it's only the funiclique, for others it's the whole following.

If I go by the mere definition of the acronym, i.e. "standing with Vic", then the farms are currently very ISWV.
Granted that's because he seems to be the victim so far, but who ever said ISWV implies anything else?

Easy answer: It's anyone that the people who don't like Vic want to label. Like the farms, which I'd say a good 95% of the site doesn't actually give a shit about what's going on in the Weeb Wars thread.

 

[Dopey Cunt]

Some are ranting about who is or isn't ISWV.
But I don't think there is a clear definition of what being ISWV means to begin with.
Is ISWV the people who use the tag on twitter? Is ISWV the people who donated to the GFM?
Does wanting Vic to get justice makes you ISWV? Does simply thinking Vis is innocent makes you ISWV?

Before arguing who is or isn't ISWV, you need to first check that you have the same definition of the group.
The same goes for KV by the way, for some it's only the funiclique, for others it's the whole following.

If I go by the mere definition of the acronym, i.e. "standing with Vic", then the farms are currently very ISWV.
Granted that's because he seems to be the victim so far, but who ever said ISWV implies anything else?

I'm speaking in terms of the "movement" people seem to call it at times or more like...the label (would it be stigma in this case?). What I mean by that is that there are some supporters of Vic who let's say donate money to the GFM in order to personally do their part to help either him or just help him win because they just don't want to other side to get away with what they are being sued for. They are going above and beyond to support him or his cause. Not everyone does this however nor is everyone who does this a part of the farms. Maybe some users can say they fully support Vic himself and say that they are ISWV, but that is not indicative of the entirety of the farms. Basically what I mean is that while there are some folks who will label themselves ISWV, that doesn't mean all of KF would label themselves the same. It also means that some people may be rooting for Vic just because they happen to hate his opposition more. I'll use myself as an example. I like Vic although I wouldn't consider myself a die hard fan of him. I wouldn't really call myself a weeb or a watcher of anime either. I come to the farms and comment about the happenings and consider myself as a supporter of Vic's rights rather than Vic himself. I don't donate money to the GFM or invest myself in the case entirely. I just show up to make snarky quips about embarrassing people and their embarrassing antics online because at the end of the day whether Vic wins or loses, I still go on with my life like normal. I guess you can say that in a malleable definition that can mean that I would also label myself ISWV, but I don't. If someone asked me if I was ISWV or KV, I would say neither and for the most part, no matter what happens, some people may care more about the lulz along the way rather than the results. I can't speak for everyone in that regard but I wouldn't also say that all of KF is firmly ISWV if that makes any sense. Augh, God I'm so fucking bad at explaining things.

 

[Commander]

Some are ranting about who is or isn't ISWV.
But I don't think there is a clear definition of what being ISWV means to begin with.
Is ISWV the people who use the tag on twitter? Is ISWV the people who donated to the GFM?
Does wanting Vic to get justice makes you ISWV? Does simply thinking Vis is innocent makes you ISWV?

Before arguing who is or isn't ISWV, you need to first check that you have the same definition of the group.
The same goes for KV by the way, for some it's only the funiclique, for others it's the whole following.

If I go by the mere definition of the acronym, i.e. "standing with Vic", then the farms are currently very ISWV.
Granted that's because he seems to be the victim so far, but who ever said ISWV implies anything else?

Does it matter? I'll make it very simple: a Kiwi can be ISWV, but the farms itself is neutral. There's this thing that this site respectfully upholds called the first amendment which pretty much allows people to say whatever the hell they want. Because of this, the site doesn't exclude people for any reason so long as they obey the set of rules thrown everywhere. We don't exclude people for being KV or ISWV to simply put it.

As for ISWV, it's a hashtag, a banner, and a label so the term is so wishy washy it doesn't particularly mean anything. But who honestly gives a shit if someone is or isn't. Most farmers are ISWV. What does that change? Nothing. It doesn't make you any better or any shittier of a person. It holds no value. I have a huge bias towards Vic and find all of the defendants disgusting pieces of trash so of course I'm going to say I'm ISWV if push comes to shove. But I'm not going to suddenly become enemies with someone just because they hate Vic. That's just stupid.

End of the day, I don't think anyone cares what ISWV means. Not Nick, not the farms, and not even Vic himself. If you show support regardless if you donate to the cause, that's good enough.

And for the people point their finger at the farms, grow the fuck up. How was the person who posted this info able to find it? Rotate that finger 180 degrees and you have your answer. It happens. Learn from it.

 

[MadPanda]

Some are ranting about who is or isn't ISWV.
But I don't think there is a clear definition of what being ISWV means to begin with.
Is ISWV the people who use the tag on twitter? Is ISWV the people who donated to the GFM?
Does wanting Vic to get justice makes you ISWV? Does simply thinking Vis is innocent makes you ISWV?

Before arguing who is or isn't ISWV, you need to first check that you have the same definition of the group.
The same goes for KV by the way, for some it's only the funiclique, for others it's the whole following.

If I go by the mere definition of the acronym, i.e. "standing with Vic", then the farms are currently very ISWV.
Granted that's because he seems to be the victim so far, but who ever said ISWV implies anything else?

I see ISWV as the twitter group. I would say that kiwifarms(at least the weebwar sector) is very pro vic, with some light anti vic once in awhile and most not giving a shit. There is a few groups I look at here.

Funiclique( sabat, monica, jamie, apple boy, etc)
Lawtwitter( Tgreg, dunford, etc)
Istandwithvic (Grug, TUG, SenPai, yellowflash, etc)
Kickvic(manjaw, dom, shane, etc)
Farms(obvious)
Party Lawyers(Ty, Lemonfuck, etc)

Then of course you have people who might fall into 2 or more categories or who may be aligning themselves simply for not liking someone else. If I am not mistaken, John Michael Kelly is more or less anti Nick than he is anti Vic, and nick could in theory be lawtwitter and ISWV(though i will always consider him an honorary farmer personally). You might also have the chaos seekers or crisis actors(I dont actually believe blue orca is kickvic, even if she would claim otherwise).

The whole thing is complicating to explain, imma probably get autistic ratings now as this is very fucking autistic, but hopefully this explains it well enough. You can support vic without being ISWV since that has become more of a group over the year this has been going on rather than a concept. Not to mention there are plenty of ISWV that hate the farms.

 

[Adach_Ame]

Also I wish to actually highlight this part and exclaim for many(even kiwis themselves) that yes the police can fail and sometimes the legal system can too. Almost all of us experienced it(with someone in our life) and sometimes we had to experience it first hand, but it is what we have and what we chose as a society to use over pistol dueling and church rulings. At least reporting it can help make your case later(yes I know people can lie on reports and some do), but again the effort has to be made at least. You are not a victim finally coming out, you are a coward that allowed others to most likely get hurt when you do not at least make some report.

GET IT IN FUCKING WRITING PEOPLE. If the police wont take a report for whatever reason and you feel you deserve to have them take one, THEN using social media/news organizations may be a way because then they either have to explain why they would not take one OR they can call bullshit on you OR you can get them into a bunch of hot water. You also would get your asspats you so desire and might even have more allies.

I know that statement is more geared towards going at the police if they fail to take a report, but again use the proper channels first for god sakes. Why do you think everyone was asking for a police report when they were telling these stupid metoo fanfictions.

edit:Ty has said it, Nick has said it, many have said it, but ill repeat it. If you continue to go down the non legal path that we, as a society, agreed upon(though not perfect and i am referring to the legal path), to ruin someones life with accusations, then do not be shocked if someone finally goes down the non legal path to ruin yours too.

Indeed, STOP FAILING TRYING TO BE FUCKING BATMAN, AND ANY OTHER WITH VIGILANTE BULLSHIT YOU AUTISTIC SPEDS! There is a reason in their stories work, it's called not drawing public attention to yourself, which is the opposite of what you speds do.

Do you know what happens when you draw too much attention to yourself? People are going to try and find out who you are. I'm surprised comics haven't taught you this life lesson.

The quote that seems to be lost on ALL of these fucking speds "With Great Power, Comes Great Responsibility." And a parody of it I just thought up right now. "With Great Boredom, Comes Great Fuckery."

 

[Mister Y]

Don't get me wrong, all of you.
I'm not starting a debate about what ISWV is, but merely pointing out that different people are gonna give it different meanings, no matter what.
There is no point about arguing with someone about something if you're not actually talking about the same thing.

If someone says "KF is ISWV", he might not be saying anything more than "the people on the farms that are following the case think Vic is innocent".
And if so, what the point about obsessing on the exact sentence "KF is ISWV"? That's the intend behind the words that matters.
People in KV often do that mistake about Vic: Well if I said it, I would mean... but you're not the one who said it, so what you would mean is irrelevant.

For instance, MadPanda said that for him, KV is "manjaw, dom, shane, etc". So if he says something like "KV are a bunch of nobodies", someone who includes the funiclique in KV could disagree, but the two of them arguing about KV being nobodies or not would be pointless as they wouldn't be talking about the same people anyway.

When I see someone say "KF is ISWV", I don't get mad, I just assume he is talking about the few of us on this thread and considers the literal definition of ISWV.

 

[AnOminous]

When I see someone say "KF is ISWV", I don't get mad, I just assume he is talking about the few of us on this thread and considers the literal definition of ISWV.

The farms certainly doesn't mindlessly support any faction and some ISWV people like TUG are routinely trashed here and generally ill regarded. Even Nick and Ty have come in for the occasional criticism.

 

[Dopey Cunt]

Don't get me wrong, all of you.
I'm not starting a debate about what ISWV is, but merely pointing out that different people are gonna give it different meanings, no matter what.
There is no point about arguing with someone about something if you're not actually talking about the same thing.

If someone says "KF is ISWV", he might not be saying anything more than "the people on the farms that are following the case think Vic is innocent".
And if so, what the point about obsessing on the exact sentence "KF is ISWV"? That's the intend behind the words that matters.
People in KV often do that mistake about Vic: Well if I said it, I would mean... but you're not the one who said it, so what you would mean is irrelevant.

For instance, MadPanda said that for him, KV is "manjaw, dom, shane, etc". So if he says something like "KV are a bunch of nobodies", someone who includes the funiclique in KV could disagree, but the two of them arguing about KV being nobodies or not would be pointless as they wouldn't be talking about the same people anyway.

When I see someone say "KF is ISWV", I don't get mad, I just assume he is talking about the few of us on this thread and considers the literal definition of ISWV.

I understand your reasoning. You're saying that the label is subjective to a wide degree of individuals. It can mean many different things so arguing about one definition is irrelevant because not everyone may be on the same page about what it actually means or what they're even arguing for.
But my argument was more geared toward people who lump all those meanings together and assume that all of KF in general have the exact same stance or investment in the case or whether or not Vic wins, you know? Mostly people who aren't Kiwis or have a general dislike of KF. Like if Shane said all of KF is ISWV when in actuality he's just cherry picking the folks who are very outspoken against him and labeling them as part of the ISWV crowd together as a whole even if their actual interest in the whole Weeb Wars thing was mild curiosity and they care more about pissing Shane off than how good Vic is doing in the case or something. Everyone is in it for different reasons and for varying degrees of interest. This also applies to both of us, whereas you see KF as mostly ISWV, I see it as KF being only somewhat (probably mostly the folks who frequent Weeb Wars board) ISWV but that the site itself is neutral and doesn't care about any of this. I also wanted to emphasize my point that the labels of ISWV or KV doesn't really matter much here anyway since we make fun of people from both sides so despite which side any one user personally supports, nothing will stop them from calling a ISWV sperg a faggot.

 

[BrandedEagle]

oh no, kiwi farms is blasted as the boogeyman, what a travesty.

 

[AStupidMonkey]

KF isn't #KickVic, it isn't #ISWV, it's #DoxTards. It's as simple as that.

Sometimes, KF even (gasp) doxes KF!

Eat a dick, gay bois.

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