[Dec 15 2019] Foreclosure Saga - http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/CaseDetail/PublicCaseDetail.aspx?DocketNo=FBTCV196091825S

Will DSP file his bankruptcy before MidFirst Bank gets their hands on his WAkhando?

  • Yes

    Votes: 112 51.9%
  • No

    Votes: 104 48.1%

  • Total voters
    216
PayPal set up service where they would loan you money and instead of worrying about paying them back PayPal would simply just take all the money that came into your account until the debt was repaid with interest.
I wonder if that is why he wants everyone to tip so much. It would pay that off without him having to do anything.
 
That's very optimistic of you. DSP will still be begging online.
I will say that if Phil is actually handling this the way he acts like he is to the public---letting the bank foreclose with no communication, basically daring them to go after him---he's going to be doing a lot of begging. They can't take his business, obviously, since it's not a physical thing to foreclose on, but he's only a step or two ahead of reality when he's usually a mile in front.
 
If only DSPigbert had "lowered" himself to using a budget back when he made the big bucks. I know it would have been hard for him, since he's said real adults don't budget and budgets are for kids, but still.......

Not gonna lie. The Schadenfreude is fun now, but it'll be even better when he has to actually go cap-in-hoof to his paygimps and acknowledge the foreclosure suit in public. My body isn't ready for that.
 
I will say that if Phil is actually handling this the way he acts like he is to the public---letting the bank foreclose with no communication, basically daring them to go after him---he's going to be doing a lot of begging. They can't take his business, obviously, since it's not a physical thing to foreclose on, but he's only a step or two ahead of reality when he's usually a mile in front.

If he really is just letting them foreclose, he pretty much automatically loses the Connecticut property, which he seems to be underwater in anyway, owing more than it's possibly worth. Then they can get a deficiency judgment for the rest, although those are somewhat open to arguments about fairness in the terms of the contract. At this point, DSP no longer has the Connecticut property, and has a judgment in Connecticut state court.

So then, considering his only assets of worth are in Washington, they have to come there. After doing what procedural magic they need to domesticate a foreign judgment in Washington State, they then put a lien on the WA condo property. They don't have a security interest in it so they can't just seize it, but if he wants to sell it or someone wants to buy it, they're going to have to satisfy the judgment to sell the property.

Now, for all I know, he's underwater in the Washington property, and the debt holder there would have a security interest superior to anything from an out of state judgment. As well as the IRS, state taxes, and any other encumbrances there might be before they can do that.

His "business" isn't really that easy to collect from. They can't just send a sheriff over to take money from the till every time a customer buys something until it's satisfied. They can take some of his shit via a sheriff's sale by executing on the judgment and filing for that kind of relief. They can garnish bank accounts or PayPal or other payment methods, although this isn't easy and a slippery guy like DSP will probably make sure to keep that shit as empty as possible so when they do it, they don't get much.

He'll probably still ultimately have to declare bankruptcy, hope that Washington's homestead exemption or the federal one protect any equity he has in the Washington condo, and try not to lose that. If he's planning at all ahead it's some kind of asset protection strategy like that, although the fact he's even in this situation shows poor judgment. He really should have sold the Connecticut property when he could. Now it has a cloud over it and nobody in their right mind will buy it until the foreclosure sale.
 
Now, for all I know, he's underwater in the Washington property, and the debt holder there would have a security interest superior to anything from an out of state judgment. As well as the IRS, state taxes, and any other encumbrances there might be before they can do that.

The WA condo has appreciated in value, at least based on other condo units selling in his neighborhood. There's some disagreement as to whether his obvious lack of upkeep beyond the bare minimum will reduce what he could get for selling it, but the lowest selling price in recent history is like $355k, and he bought his condo for $265k. Assuming he's making his mortgage payments on the WA condo, his equity is pretty decent.
 
It's very interesting to see this happen to Phil as well as his reaction to it. Normally for Phil, a huge financial crisis like this would cause him to go into e-begging overdrive, but it seems he is relenting. Rather than begging his audience for the $100K, he's instead asking for a mere $2K, and rather than admitting it's for the foreclosure, he's instead lying and saying it's for "end of the year taxes". I think that Phil knows that he has squeezed his paypigs dry, and dumping such a huge debt onto them will cause them to jump ship, which is why he's asking for the "minimum" amount.

However, this leaves the question of where he will get the other money, which will either have to be from his parents, or from a secret fund that he's never revealed. It seems like the main issue for Phil is whether he will take the easy route of selling his current home and downgrading, or if he will take the obstinate route of waiting for the debt collectors to sue him, which may result in his current home being taken anyways. Either that, or the bank will make it so that every dollar DSP earns goes to them, which means he's going to have to make a third attempt at cooking ramen....
 
It's very interesting to see this happen to Phil as well as his reaction to it. Normally for Phil, a huge financial crisis like this would cause him to go into e-begging overdrive, but it seems he is relenting. Rather than begging his audience for the $100K, he's instead asking for a mere $2K, and rather than admitting it's for the foreclosure, he's instead lying and saying it's for "end of the year taxes". I think that Phil knows that he has squeezed his paypigs dry, and dumping such a huge debt onto them will cause them to jump ship, which is why he's asking for the "minimum" amount.

I'm still not sure why people are acting like Phil is lying about the $2000 being for taxes. He has his state B&O taxes due in January. They're 1.5% of his gross income for 2019. So if he made exactly $100,000, he would owe $1500. For $120,000, it would be $1800. Since it's well established that he doesn't set money aside for shit at all, it's highly likely that he needs a lump of money to pay for it. $2000 isn't going to make a dent in the foreclosure stuff. Nor is it more than a small part of his federal taxes.

I think he's going to wait out the foreclosure and then try and declare bankruptcy. The main question is whether/how he fucks it up.
 
I think he's going to wait out the foreclosure and then try and declare bankruptcy. The main question is whether/how he fucks it up.

Or he could declare bankruptcy immediately and automatically obtain a stay in any proceedings against him. It will nuke his credit rating from orbit, but so will getting foreclosed on. His biggest dick option, so what he'll do if he isn't just pushing buttons, is wait until the foreclosure proceeding actually looks like he's about to lose, and THEN file bankruptcy.

What he'd want to do is maximize his equity in exempt assets so that the creditors get to seize the condo but any deficiency is uncollectible. He should be talking to a good bankruptcy lawyer at this point since when that's best to do is complicated and he may need to do it very soon.

For all I know he could get out of this pretty easily. He's obviously fucking DSP, so the odds of that aren't good, but he'll probably survive with pigroach luck not much scathed if he even half asses it.
 
The immortal pig roach is going to die at the hands of what he wants the most in this world: money.
I still fully expect Pig will just force his parents to nuke their retirement funds and any nest eggs to ensure he doesn't have to eat the costs himself like the spoiled shit he is.

I am not going to hope, because this manchild will cry and moan and cockroach and lower his standards as hard as possible just so he doesn't ever have to face this now.
 
Just because you aren't an employee doesn't mean the banks can't get at your paychecks.

They'll send twitch/youtube a letter from the courts and any payments made to Phil will get dinged the same way a paycheck would.

The only thing I imagine they can't touch this way is Paypal, but since Phil has a business account I wouldn't be surprised if there's not a mechanism to tap into that as well.
 
Just because you aren't an employee doesn't mean the banks can't get at your paychecks.

They'll send twitch/youtube a letter from the courts and any payments made to Phil will get dinged the same way a paycheck would.

And he'll immediately stop bringing in that income that way if he has any power to do it. It's not like a regular paycheck where an employer can be ordered to pay it every month. Usually a garnishment order for a bank account would only get what's in there. If you had it empty, the bank doesn't have an ongoing obligation to police it. I assume Twitch runs into this enough to have a procedure for it. I know they have a really rough time collecting from Uber drivers, since both Uber and they will claim to be independent contractors.

Phil can't really run too many places, since he needs his major accounts to stay up. Even if they can't garnish them effectively (and maybe they can now I am not actually sure), if they have to deal with enough legal bullshit related to you, financial institutions will just kick you off because fuck that and fuck you.

I also don't know where they'd have to file to garnish from Twitch/PayPal/whoever. Probably somewhere chosen by Twitch/PayPal/whoever. I wouldn't actually be shocked if they just fuck you over, I know PayPal likes just grabbing your money without any legal justification for it. They certainly won't go to bat for you.
 
People are talking a lot about him filing for bankruptcy. Now, I don't know shit about US law, but how the fuck could a person earning 100k+ a year and owning a condo worth more than 300k successfully do that? Wouldn't the judge be like "lol no" and that be the end of it?
 
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