Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Why do they want to have the China market when it’s clear they don’t like Star Wars? I wish the film companies could pick and choose what they want for China and release better stuff for the rest of the world.
They didn't for FA, they didn't for TLJ. They REALLY do for ROS.

My guess, Lucas Films is doing this not Disney, they realized that they fucked the dog hard with their chances in the U.S> and Europe and are DESPERATE that the movie does good in China.
 
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How long until they retcon in that he Force-impregnated her?

Not as big a leap as you'd think. It was made canon in one of the tie-ins comics last year that the Emperor impregnated Darth Vader's mother through the force. Also, if you take that to mean that to mean that the Emperor was Darth Vader's father, that makes the Rey and Kylo kiss essentially incest.
 
For the record, how many agree that the problem wasn't inherently the idea of a female protagonist for the sequel trilogy, it was just done poorly?

For a third trilogy a female protagonist was a good idea just to differentiate it from the prior two trilogies if nothing else, the trouble is they forgot to make Rey an actual character.
The problem is and always will be that Kathleen Kennedy let her pet director massively overreact to some extremely minor criticism TFA received and used the middle chapter of their trilogy as a metacommentary on members of the fandom he hated. If you built on what seeds where there in the Force Awakens, Rey included, along the lines of what JJ was probably thinking penciling in all those story hooks, the Disney trilogy would've been solidly mediocre. Not amazing, not utter shit, but predictable and mediocre, like most of Abrams Star Trek was. Instead he was left with literally nothing to work with after Johnson killed every trilogy arc the previous movie set up for the sake of subversion.

It's not a coincidence that people ITT are routinely able to shit out decent pitches for how to do a sequel series in a way that's generally pleasing during their toilet breaks. Anyone can be a screenwriter on JJ Abrams' level.
 
Execute order 66.
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Last night I got a direct message from an asspained SW fan on a forum I frequent because I posted that the movie was going to be awful. ALL CAPS REPLIES! "FUCK YOU BITCH, I HAVE FOUR TICKETS AND I LOVE STAR WARS AND I'LL LOVE THIS YOU CAN'T STOP ME!" :story: :story: :story:

The best part? It was a grown woman. I bet she's in tears right now.
 
Last night I got a direct message from an asspained SW fan on a forum I frequent because I posted that the movie was going to be awful. ALL CAPS REPLIES! "FUCK YOU BITCH, I HAVE FOUR TICKETS AND I LOVE STAR WARS AND I'LL LOVE THIS YOU CAN'T STOP ME!" :story: :story: :story:

The best part? It was a grown woman. I bet she's in tears right now.
well... come on bro. post those choice screen. This is good cahntent potential!
 
For the record, how many agree that the problem wasn't inherently the idea of a female protagonist for the sequel trilogy, it was just done poorly?

For a third trilogy a female protagonist was a good idea just to differentiate it from the prior two trilogies if nothing else, the trouble is they forgot to make Rey an actual character.

Absolutely. A franchise can have a strong female protagonist with meaning and merit, but I think a big reason for Rey's Mary-Sueishness is the underlying push in modern media to include a strong female protag to, well, have just that. A strong female protag. That's it. That usually ends up being the character's one all-encompassing trait, made worse by the fact that making them ~special~ and ~skilled~ means making them OP to the max with little or no reasoning behind the action besides vague "this is her destiny", "this is just how she is", "her lineage designates her power level", etc.

I think Rey was just that. A social statement in the worst way possible. They could have done way better with her.
 
Last night I got a direct message from an asspained SW fan on a forum I frequent because I posted that the movie was going to be awful. ALL CAPS REPLIES! "FUCK YOU BITCH, I HAVE FOUR TICKETS AND I LOVE STAR WARS AND I'LL LOVE THIS YOU CAN'T STOP ME!" :story: :story: :story:

The best part? It was a grown woman. I bet she's in tears right now.
Yeah, that totally happened. Screenshots or go.
 
The weird obsessions in some fans regarding Boba Fett is easy to understand once you look into the history of the character. In George Lucas's eyes, Fett was just a throwaway character. He was kind of cool looking, but just one of the Bounty Hunters. But Kenner needed a character to use for the secret proof of purchase mail in offer on the action figures. So Lucas gave them Fett. And that's where things went wrong and a fandom was born. See back in 1978 we had Star Wars. It wasn't a Trilogy. It wasn't an IP. It was one single movie. And now it was gone, out of theaters, and it would be years before it would come to TV. Outside the horrid Holiday Special there was no more of this wonderful narcotic called Star Wars. Except the toys. And the toys were wonderful. And then we sent away for the secret action figure. He was a Bounty Hunter... from the NEW MOVIE! Getting Boba Fett in hand was the very first indication we had that there would or even could be more. He was so cool. He had a jetpack and a missile and really cool armor! And the stories we made up in our heads about how cool this character was going to be were like another whole movie unto themselves. To George Lucas Boba Fett was just an unimportant background character. But to those 11 year olds in 1978 he was the first tangible contact we had with the broader Star Wars Universe. So he became very very important to those kids. And some people never got over their Head Cannon. (Whereas some, like Jon Favereau and Dave Filoni clearly treasured their Boba Fett head cannon stories, evolved them, crafted them, and finally turned them into the Mandalorian. Well done guys!) And those conflicting Fett related Head Cannons led to pure concentrated fanboytism and fagotry wars. To the point where those not so mentally invested in the character hate whenever the speds bring him up.
So essentially Traviss and Denning’s spergy game of oneupmanship during Legacy of The Force can be traced to that?
 
I just wanna tiny break from the dogpiling shitshow to mention one moment in the recent Mandalorian episode I loved:

I'm not entirely sure it was intended as a joke, but I laughed...

Warner Herzog's character asking to see baby Yoda in his pram. Carl Weathers responds(deceptively)the child is asleep....

Then, with a bunch of stormtroopers around with his THICK Austrian accent Herzog goes "VE VILL bee qwuite"

That just made me so happy for some reason...
 
well... come on bro. post those choice screen. This is good cahntent potential!

Nah. Don't want to in any way connect this account to anything else I do online.

But that was all there was. it was like a five line exchange. I literally said, "I hope the movie is good for your sake," and she finished with "FUCK YOU BITCH." :story:
 
I just wanna tiny break from the dogpiling shitshow to mention one moment in the recent Mandalorian episode I loved:

I'm not entirely sure it was intended as a joke, but I laughed...

Warner Herzog's character asking to see baby Yoda in his pram. Carl Weathers responds(deceptively)the child is asleep....

Then, with a bunch of stormtroopers around with his THICK Austrian accent Herzog goes "VE VILL bee qwuite"

That just made me so happy for some reason...
its almost like the show has charm... an alien concept to current star wars.
 
all trilogies, the og clone wars cartoon, the animated movie, working my way through rebels, spin off movies, only thing im really leaving out is the 3d animated clone wars because I already watched it and I dont wanna rewatch them.

I’m still continuing my chronological journey through Legends (I just started a light side playthrough of KOTOR 1
 
In blockbusters everyone wants to see cool people doing cool things. Very basic concept.
You can complain about the Transformers movies and Marvel movies and their various components, but as long as those movies deliver on those two fronts, they will draw a profit through ticket sales or merchandising.
Very true, and to build on that even further, if you actually want to sell merch then you have to sell something that lends to an open-ended sense of imagination. There's those old clips of '70s commercials for the original Star Wars toys and you can see it all right there. Luke is relatable and Darth Vader is cool, but most importantly by the end of the first movie there's the potential for what could happen between the two, before Empire Strikes Back is even a thing. It's ripe for imagination. Kids can't help but be compelled to treat it like a story playground.

What do you have by the end of TFA? Finn has presumably already dealt with Phasma without even having a real fight, so there's no place for imagination if you're a kid with a Finn toy and a cool shiny Phasma toy. Then it's somehow even worse between the more important characters of Rey and Kylo. She more or less beat him by the end. Where can it go from there? She's the one with all the potential after all, not him. Maybe a girl would be into play-acting the girl beating the boy over and over again, but presumably if it's a girl interested in NuWars then she'd be weird and more into that ReyLo shit. It just goes to show how poorly thought out at all levels Disney's strategy really was.
 
Now would be a good time to tell you my personal fanfic for Star Wars 9. I haven't seen 8 because I heard it was awful, but this is what I had in my head.
As scary as this might be to admit, @Null's headcanon sounds like it could make a far better film than what Disney has tried to pass off as SW content.

There's a reason why the first two trilogies had 3 years in between films.
Not only that, but they had multi-year in-universe gaps between films as well. Let's just look at the OT:

Episode IV-V gap: The Imperials have to regroup after Death Star I and the Rebels need a new base after Yavin IV is compromised.

Episode V-VI: The rebels once again have to flee Hoth after suffering some defeats and setbacks. Han is carbon frozen and turned over to Jabba. Luke loses a hand and learns Vader is his father. Vader and the emperor scheme to turn Luke dark and decide to make a new improved Death Star II.

in each gap, one or both sides has to deal with setbacks or challenges, even when victorious. it also sets the stage for the next film where see how much either side has improved or still struggles.

With the ST films shot with no sort of in-universe time gap between films, it feels more like a 3-part made-for-TV series that airs over three days as opposed to a bona fide trilogy. Once again, this falls back on the lack of proper storytelling.
 
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