Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[StarkRavingMad]

Chris Stuckmann, an idiot, giving another idiotic take about a movie.

"They should have planned this trilogy, and they clearly did not."

"Stop blaming people and corporations behind these movies."

"I don't know what Star Wars fans want."

"I like this trilogy, despite what others think. Neener neener."

"This movie disappointed me in many places."

"I won't give it a rating yet. I need to give the Mouse more money to see it again before I make a decision."

This prick is in complete denial at how shitty these movies are. lol.

 

[Muttnik]

The EU wasn't perfect but it did everything a good lore-based universe should do. The OT trio had adventures, dynamic marriages, a continued bloodline, growth, and ultimately a legacy.

There's none of that now. Just bitterness and a severed connection with beloved characters that all died broken.

 

[Nobunaga]

Im sure that someone asked this but, seeing as how force yoda can summon lighting and apparently appear wherever the fuck he pleases
What is stopping the jedi and sith from using the force ghosts as spys/indestructive sabotage gear, after all is not like you can kill what is already dead

 

[BipolarPon]

Chris Stuckmann, an idiot, giving another idiotic take about a movie.

"They should have planned this trilogy, and they clearly did not."

"Stop blaming people and corporations behind these movies."

"I don't know what Star Wars fans want."

"I like this trilogy, despite what others think. Neener neener."

"This movie disappointed me in many places."

"I won't give it a rating yet. I need to give the Mouse more money to see it again before I make a decision."

This prick is in complete denial at how shitty these movies are. lol.

It looks like he's tearing up in his eyes. I thank the movie broke him and he's holding it back, I don't think he's a Disney shill, he's been critical on there other films. But the fact he ain't willing to give this film a score speaks for it self.

 

[Love Machine]

Im sure that someone asked this but, seeing as how force yoda can summon lighting and apparently appear wherever the fuck he pleases
What is stopping the jedi and sith from using the force ghosts as spys/indestructive sabotage gear, after all is not like you can kill what is already dead

Nothing.

 

[ScatmansWorld]

Im sure that someone asked this but, seeing as how force yoda can summon lighting and apparently appear wherever the fuck he pleases
What is stopping the jedi and sith from using the force ghosts as spys/indestructive sabotage gear, after all is not like you can kill what is already dead

I dunno, the force works in mysterious ways or whatever.
Speaking of Yoda, I know I’m late to this but what’s the general consensus on how Yoda was treated in The Last Jedi? I don’t really hear many people talk about it but the little I do hear people say he was alright.

 

[Weeb Slinger]

The weird obsessions in some fans regarding Boba Fett is easy to understand once you look into the history of the character. In George Lucas's eyes, Fett was just a throwaway character. He was kind of cool looking, but just one of the Bounty Hunters. But Kenner needed a character to use for the secret proof of purchase mail in offer on the action figures. So Lucas gave them Fett. And that's where things went wrong and a fandom was born. See back in 1978 we had Star Wars. It wasn't a Trilogy. It wasn't an IP. It was one single movie. And now it was gone, out of theaters, and it would be years before it would come to TV. Outside the horrid Holiday Special there was no more of this wonderful narcotic called Star Wars. Except the toys. And the toys were wonderful. And then we sent away for the secret action figure. He was a Bounty Hunter... from the NEW MOVIE! Getting Boba Fett in hand was the very first indication we had that there would or even could be more. He was so cool. He had a jetpack and a missile and really cool armor! And the stories we made up in our heads about how cool this character was going to be were like another whole movie unto themselves. To George Lucas Boba Fett was just an unimportant background character. But to those 11 year olds in 1978 he was the first tangible contact we had with the broader Star Wars Universe. So he became very very important to those kids. And some people never got over their Head Cannon. (Whereas some, like Jon Favereau and Dave Filoni clearly treasured their Boba Fett head cannon stories, evolved them, crafted them, and finally turned them into the Mandalorian. Well done guys!) And those conflicting Fett related Head Cannons led to pure concentrated fanboytism and fagotry wars. To the point where those not so mentally invested in the character hate whenever the speds bring him up.

I am ancient enough to have seen the original Star Wars films in theatres as they were released. I was four when the first film came out. As we left the cinema I was already vocally speculating on the ways that Obi Wan might have survived his duel with Vader ( a conveniently-positioned trapdoor and a parachute). That rush of head canon carried on in the school playground where me and my friends would play beyond the scope of the film. The first run of action figures from Palitoy, along with play-sets like the cardboard Death Star, also allowed us to develop and explore our own expanded Star Wars universes. I doubt that any kid my age, living at the tail-end of the 1970s, had that any concept of sequels. Nobody had any notion that there would be another Star Wars film, but that didn't stop us from coming up with our own stories.

When Empire came out, Fett, along with AT-AT walkers and snowspeeders, was a big deal for me and my friends. In the film he was singled-out from the other bounty hunters, who were effectively living wallpaper, in a similar vein to the cantina aliens. In the briefing, Vader reminds him that disintegrations are unacceptable. He tracks the Falcon to Bespin. Later he exchanges blaster fire with Luke. He was a cool new character. If you were playing on the Imperial side you wanted to be either him or Darth Vader.

The Fett action figure was the most generic and disappointing of the bounty hunters. The rocket was cemented in place. I also had the 12 inch version of Fett which had some nice details. His jet pack came with a grapple hook. The 4-Lom figure (which was actually Zuckuss but was misidentified on the packaging) was probably the best and came in a beige fabric coat that was secured in place with a plastic chest computer. But nobody really cared about the other bounty hunters, beyond collecting their toys. Nobody wanted to be them, in the way that you would want to be Boba Fett. They had no stories in the film so there was nothing really to grab the imagination.

 

[Love Machine]

I dunno, the force works in mysterious ways or whatever.
Speaking of Yoda, I know I’m late to this but what’s the general consensus on how Yoda was treated in The Last Jedi? I don’t really hear many people talk about it but the little I do hear people say he was alright.

As Mike stalkasa said
"Ahhh fuck it" *brings down lightning bolt*

 

[Cuatro Vaginas]

I remember some kids crying while Yoda destroyed that tree and laughing at the same time lol it was shot in way that made Yoda seem like he turned evil for no reason for a second.

 

[fuckass]

I don't know much about the "Expanded Universe" (or "Legends"), but would the sequel trilogy have been better if it were based on it instead of going with the Di$ney decision to drop it entirely?

(of course there'd likely be woke pandering in it either way)

Yes and no. Disney cherrypicked what was worth keeping. Most obvious being Kylo's casting since Cade has an uncannily similar face as Adam Driver. Mara Jade added something to Luke that spun things in a fun way. The emperor returning and Luuke..... yeah. Or Chewie's death.... yeah.

 

[Marco Fucko]

For the record, how many agree that the problem wasn't inherently the idea of a female protagonist for the sequel trilogy, it was just done poorly?

For a third trilogy a female protagonist was a good idea just to differentiate it from the prior two trilogies if nothing else, the trouble is they forgot to make Rey an actual character.

There's so much you could do with an abandoned force sensitive daughter or granddaughter of a main character, it's hilariously bad how confused and bland Rey is as a character. Hell even if she stays a nobody, her drive to be someone as her "rebellion" against entropy could easily lead her to flirt with the dark side consistently.

I can see an alternate sequel trilogy where Ben Solo is a budding padawan who is slightly arrogant due to not knowing war unlike his parents and uncle, and somehow he stumbles across Rey being a force sensitive and brings her to Luke's small but effective temple. So now you have the brand new acolyte and a more seasoned learner, both with certain flaws in their personality that could lead them to be corrupted. Then, have a new First Order, but have them be extra-galactic. They actually don't know shit about Palpatine or Luke or anything about the Clone Wars. They are simply imperialists, they're spreading out of their native galaxy and into the protagonists'. Either war gets declared or maybe this extragalactic cult of personality leader Snoke spies one of our padawans. Make Snoke Palpatine if Luke had never existed.

The Force is universal so he knows it already and is proficient in it, and naturally being a political maneuverer and conqueror he is of the Dark Side. So you've got this foreign Snoke who either taps into Ben's arrogance or Rey's desire for acceptance and turns one of them into an apprentice. And you know what? For character development and for the sake of graying things up just a little, make Snoke a realist. He knows he's older, he knows he's in bad health and he couldn't have children. Either corrupted Ben or corrupted Rey are his legacy. This is who he wants to continue on his life's work of spreading the First Order across the universe.

Boom, I just set up a slightly more compelling sequel trilogy wherein Luke and the original gang, in addition to new blood must defend the galaxy from a new threat and fully secure their galaxy from a massive external threat.

And I guess have Leia assassinated or pass in the second movie because, well, you know.

 

[Adamska]

At this rate, I'm never going to catch up unless I just skip jump, because this thread will jump 40 more pages when I sleep. And if I do that, then I'm missing actual leaks, more shitshow clips, more funny happenings... because this thread won't fucking slow down.

I'm literally drowning in this shit, and I can't find a goddamn liferaft.

 

[Love Machine]

At this rate, I'm never going to catch up unless I just skip jump, because this thread will jump 40 more pages when I sleep. And if I do that, then I'm missing actual leaks, more shitshow clips, more funny happenings... because this thread won't fucking slow down.

I'm literally drowning in this shit, and I can't find a goddamn liferaft.

I'll save you time brother, it's all shit talk, there hasn't been more leaks of major note.

 

[Adamska]

I'll save you time brother, it's all shit talk, there hasn't been more leaks of major note.

Thank fuck.

I'm just gonna read Atomicboy's synopsis then, and just do what I do with Pigroach's thread when people can't seem to shut the fuck up when they have nothing to say: skip read.

 

[Honest Coyote]

For the record, how many agree that the problem wasn't inherently the idea of a female protagonist for the sequel trilogy, it was just done poorly?

For a third trilogy a female protagonist was a good idea just to differentiate it from the prior two trilogies if nothing else, the trouble is they forgot to make Rey an actual character.

I haven't been keeping up with Star Wars and am just here for the salt, but I don't think it would be a problem. Both Aliens And Terminator had female protagonists and were well received by audiences, and one of the cartoons gave Anakin a female apprentice who was also pretty popular (along with a female sith who served as a foil for both Anakin and his apprentice). There are even more examples if you're willing to jump to different genres, like Underworld in modern fantasy instead of SciFi. There's also different mediums that have well recieved female protagonists, like the Tomb Raider series.

That being said, I do think people are tired of girl power and pop feminism being stuffed in when nobody ever said women couldn't. If you want a female jedi, you should have a jedi that is female who isn't being held up against the men constantly. Disney handled Rey the worst possible way, a position emphasized by other female characters (such as purple hair from TLJ).

 

[Bombsaway]

I haven’t seen it and this thread is tl;dr. But Star Wars is just a giant commercial to sell overpriced plastic shit to retards as well as the rest of the shit Disney shits out and rubs our face in. Fuck Star Wars.

 

[Adamska]

Women protagonists in action/sci-fi wasn't a problem for at worst over 40 years (and almost certainly longer). It's only brought up now because the current gen of film experts are too fucking lazy to actually create and are too late to the party to push the boundaries... at least for the most part.

So it's cheap shit marketing from hacks who want to pretend to be pushing boundaries that cheapens actual female characters.

Current Hollywood is sexist and racist given how fucking insulting they are the characters they make; women and not-white people cannot have flaws or grow. The latter is also verboten if you want the chinaman money, and the former is barely tolerated at best.

 

[Love Machine]

"That's one in a million"

What does that even mean JJ? What was so one in a million about smashing a ship into a bigger ship, then having the shrapnel kill a bunch of other ships?

 

[Adamska]

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"That's one in a million"

What does that even mean JJ? What was so one in a million about smashing a ship into a bigger ship, then having the shrapnel kill a bunch of other ships?

*mumbles in insecure lazy hack who didn't bother to think beyond a 1st draft*

 

[Basil II]

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"That's one in a million"

What does that even mean JJ? What was so one in a million about smashing a ship into a bigger ship, then having the shrapnel kill a bunch of other ships?

the empire literally did it on accident in rogue one lmfao.