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[Rei is shit]

Did he really fuck snoke?

New hot take here:

r/KotakuInAction - The unfortunate message of Disney's Star Wars tells young women that they should engage/remain in a abusive relationship because they can magically fix their "bad boy".

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Amazing that Disney now promotes abusive relationships, battered women stick with their men, and that the men that abuse them can be 'saved'.

Oh glorious feminism I thought had saved us from these awful, awful tropes.

Gotta pander to reylo shipers. Don't you know that tumblr is cool?

 

[Creep3r]

it was more of a joke, but here's the thing: look at how the FO is depicted (the little we see of them). this is current year, there is only black and white. you can't have the bad guys have a little bit of grey, be competent or more than a caricature. that would go against the narrative.

finn being a kidnapped child-soldier was jj making shit up for marketing (and maybe re-hashing earlier concepts, see the art about it. @GeneralFriendliness probably knows more about the timeline and where it comes from), showing how "evil" the first order is. the only thing missing is phasma kicking an alien puppy; was probably filmed and removed to not impact sales of the her figure.

let's look at the internal logic: he was a fucking janitor. all so finn could say "I kno dat!". apparently he was mopping floors across the whole galaxy and the first order steals kids for low-wage jobs a droid can do.
even if we go by what we know, him defecting after being in the field, does that mean a stormtrooper's career involves custodian duties by default at some point? if it was a demotion, does that mean the first order has a social safety net and doesn't outright euthanize failed storm troopers? how did he even get out of that and end up back in the field again? in phasma's unit no less? and with his knowledge, does that mean the FO shares crucial operational information down to the lowest rank?

sure, you could've done more with the origin (which is just a kyle katarn ripoff anyway), but no one wants to see a disillusioned former child soldier with ptsd wrestling with his inner demons trying to adapt to a life outside the FO, not the demographic of kids and manbabies who are supposed to buy merch and disney was aiming for. they want explosions and shootyshooty.
normal vets already have trouble adapting to civilian life after combat, and they usually join as adults voluntarily so they have some grasp on life. now imagine what that would look like for a former child soldier. maybe him gleefully shooting his former comrades and possible long-term friends was him finally breaking down...

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so, original rogue one?
(I still want that cut)




yeah, well...

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This fucking guy I swear.

Bullshit. As far as I'm aware, the PT, R1, and OT are the only SW films in existence. Any others are bad fanfiction, like the last Predator movie. IMO, the easiest way to make a film non-canon is by not paying to see it, which I will successfully do during RoS' theatrical run and home release.

I'm not disagreeing with that notion, just the notion that denying "Daddy Palpatine" is true somehow makes a difference in Disney continuity (despite Disney doing far worse) is silly. As far as I'm concerned, I'll stick with just the PT, OT and the things I did like from old canon. And it would be nice if this movie's financial failure meant that it sends Disney a message that we want nothing to do with their continuity, but it probably won't. Disney is too far up its own ass right now, and even the Mandalorian seems to want to remind us that the Disney films still happen since we see shit from TLJ and TFA show up or get mentioned in this crap.

 

[HeyYou]

If Disney pays attention to the critics and blue checkmarks this time (since those icky fans and their toxicity caused JJ to make IX a bad movie) we might get Rian Johnson back. Think about that.

 

[ZMOT]

Yeah these fans suck, so plebeian. They are nothing like the 30 something erudite intellectuals who hate Star Wars™ Skywalker Rising® and only love the Good Product, Star Wars™ Babyyodian®. I personally love how the tv series provides a thought-provoking in-depth exploration of the complex Lore behind babyyodian culture. It is a Good Product that you should be proud to consume, not similar at all to the laughable Bad Product by the same company.

I know you just post here to bait, come on man, put more effort in it than

I feel bad that the BFII devs trying to fix that mess of a game have to include IX content instead of what they want. That must suck.

to be fair, the TFA/RO stuff in the original eafront was probably the game's best content.

 

[BipolarPon]

No not really. Vader goes into the fucking Force itself and sees history unfold along with visions of the dead along with the revelation that Palpatine created him. I'm not sure why you think its not that considering this is the same universe where Han is a bum who had his Falcon stolen by a parking valet then sold his best friend's memento, a universe where Luke is an even bigger deadbeat and bitter bum whose life amounted to nothing and whose legacy was taken by his mortal enemy's grandkid, a universe where Leia is an outcast abandoned by the government she created, and a universe where Palpatine is the ultimate victor in literally every regard, even in death. Also corruption makes no sense since Anakin was never corrupted until after meeting Palpatine and falling in love with Padme. Also why create/corrupt a kid who is supposed to be your ultimate weapon and never bother to nurture him from the get-go? Its all just shitty writing from the same comic that gave us Darth Moomin. And in the off-chance that Disney decides to retcon this, it doesn't change what a clusterfuck their world is.
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The nu-canon force stuff confuses me, like apparently your connection to the force is weaker the less body you have, yet we have Darth Moomin, who somehow can live without his body through the force. The Nu-canon is filled with contradictions.

 

[Jaimas]

it was more of a joke, but here's the thing: look at how the FO is depicted (the little we see of them). this is current year, there is only black and white. you can't have the bad guys have a little bit of grey, be competent or more than a caricature. that would go against the narrative.

finn being a kidnapped child-soldier was jj making shit up for marketing (and maybe re-hashing earlier concepts, see the art about it. @GeneralFriendliness probably knows more about the timeline and where it comes from), showing how "evil" the first order is. the only thing missing is phasma kicking an alien puppy; was probably filmed and removed to not impact sales of the her figure.

let's look at the internal logic: he was a fucking janitor. all so finn could say "I kno dat!". apparently he was mopping floors across the whole galaxy and the first order steals kids for low-wage jobs a droid can do.
even if we go by what we know, him defecting after being in the field, does that mean a stormtrooper's career involves custodian duties by default at some point? if it was a demotion, does that mean the first order has a social safety net and doesn't outright euthanize failed storm troopers? how did he even get out of that and end up back in the field again? in phasma's unit no less? and with his knowledge, does that mean the FO shares crucial operational information down to the lowest rank?

sure, you could've done more with the origin (which is just a kyle katarn ripoff anyway), but no one wants to see a disillusioned former child soldier with ptsd wrestling with his inner demons trying to adapt to a life outside the FO, not the demographic of kids and manbabies who are supposed to buy merch and disney was aiming for. they want explosions and shootyshooty.
normal vets already have trouble adapting to civilian life after combat, and they usually join as adults voluntarily so they have some grasp on life. now imagine what that would look like for a former child soldier. maybe him gleefully shooting his former comrades and possible long-term friends was him finally breaking down...

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so, original rogue one?
(I still want that cut)




yeah, well...

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I sometimes wonder what it would cost under-the-table to have some clerk quietly lace one of his fancy coffee beverages with laxatives.

If Disney pays attention to the critics and blue checkmarks this time (since those icky fans and their toxicity caused JJ to make IX a bad movie) we might get Rian Johnson back. Think about that.

And they will lose another few hundred million.

Go ahead. Flip that coin.

 

[BrunoMattei]

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That is one of the stupidest fucking things I have ever seen in regards to writing.

 

[verissimus]

it was more of a joke, but here's the thing: look at how the FO is depicted (the little we see of them). this is current year, there is only black and white. you can't have the bad guys have a little bit of grey, be competent or more than a caricature. that would go against the narrative.

finn being a kidnapped child-soldier was jj making shit up for marketing (and maybe re-hashing earlier concepts, see the art about it. @GeneralFriendliness probably knows more about the timeline and where it comes from), showing how "evil" the first order is. the only thing missing is phasma kicking an alien puppy; was probably filmed and removed to not impact sales of the her figure.

let's look at the internal logic: he was a fucking janitor. all so finn could say "I kno dat!". apparently he was mopping floors across the whole galaxy and the first order steals kids for low-wage jobs a droid can do.
even if we go by what we know, him defecting after being in the field, does that mean a stormtrooper's career involves custodian duties by default at some point? if it was a demotion, does that mean the first order has a social safety net and doesn't outright euthanize failed storm troopers? how did he even get out of that and end up back in the field again? in phasma's unit no less? and with his knowledge, does that mean the FO shares crucial operational information down to the lowest rank?

sure, you could've done more with the origin (which is just a kyle katarn ripoff anyway), but no one wants to see a disillusioned former child soldier with ptsd wrestling with his inner demons trying to adapt to a life outside the FO, not the demographic of kids and manbabies who are supposed to buy merch and disney was aiming for. they want explosions and shootyshooty.
normal vets already have trouble adapting to civilian life after combat, and they usually join as adults voluntarily so they have some grasp on life. now imagine what that would look like for a former child soldier. maybe him gleefully shooting his former comrades and possible long-term friends was him finally breaking down...

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so, original rogue one?
(I still want that cut)




yeah, well...

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Oh piss off you moron. History is not full of "retcons" not unless you want to claim the Dark Ages was such. Goddamn pathetic writers in Hollywood, Marvel etc. And keep in mind these same POS and their lap dog "critics" will bitch and moan with wild abandon when their bullshit gets "retconned' (see their reaction to Ghostbusters : Afterlife or better yet Episode IX).

 

[ZMOT]

The reaction of 4chan's /tv/ board is more entertaining than the actual film. It's become more autistic than usual over there.

they are masters at pushing memes, seeing what they gonna do with TROS was one of the things I was looking forward to.

On top of ROS hate, a number of anons have been stalking some young aspergic girl named Megan who works at the Star Wars section of the Disney parks. There's a war between her protectors and stalkers which led to multiple people getting doxed. https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/125888490/#125888490

she's too old and doesn't show enough feet for /tv/

 

[Moguro Fukuzou]

Trying to catch up on this thread is like Sisyphus trying to get his bolder to the top, there's always more that keeps me from reaching the end. I myself tapped out of Nu-SW early on, of those released I've only finished and enjoyed Rogue One, but seeing these results is still a joyful occasion. Do feel a bit bad for my Dad since he was always a huge SW/ST fan but he always can go back to the old movies, he's at least smart enough to pirate all the Nu-SW movies rather then giving the rat more money.

My Christmas dream is for Scorsese to make some sort of comment on the New SW movie so Iger and the Disney shills can go raise a fit again.

Hey Disney, here's an idea. Reopen the project to produce the sequel to Treasure Planet. I mean crazy I know, giving people what they want and stuff.

Just saying.

I would rather Nu-Disney not fuck up anymore of its classics for soulless cash grabs thank you very much. Leave them alone.

Their recent track record shows that it would be a garbage live-action/CGI nightmare that has 0% of the charm of the original, any belief they'd bother with anything else is laughable. Why would I ever want to hear a Silver not voiced by Brian Murray (RIP) in a movie that would have none of the heart of the original. That is like wanting an Atlantis remake/sequel when you know they wouldn't keep the original art-style or any of what made it good in the first place.

Any desire for remakes or sequels to Disney movies should have been dead and buried as soon as they started their trend of Live-action remakes to their beloved classics. Old Disney that you could trust to make an enjoyable movie like it did in the past is dead and gone, unless it goes through major restructure with changes at the top I don't see it ever coming back. Just enjoy the classics for what they were.

 

[A Grey Cat]

Eh I don't care for getting pissy over what they do with star wars much anymore, It's just not worth my anger when there's so much fucked up shit in the world that a franchise zombie isn't one of them. I just look up whatever scenes are cringe and I'll wait to buy a used copy on Amazon on DVD (yes this doesn't diserve Blu-ray or streaming) so I can mute or skip them. Looks like I'm doing the same for this one.

 

[HeyYou]

to be fair, the TFA/RO stuff in the original eafront was probably the game's best content.

And the sequel trilogy stuff in the sequel is sadly the game's worst content.

 

[Creep3r]

Did he really fuck snoke?
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Well he certainly came for Snoke.

This is official by the way. Published by Marvel Comics.

 

[Regulas]

But then Disney bought it and everything has been falling apart ever since. The fandom has splintered and all the various factions hate each other

All because of one woman.

Eh I don't care for star wars much anymore, It's just not worth my anger. I just look up whatever scenes are cringe and I'll wait to buy a used copy on Amazon on DVD (yes this doesn't diserve Blu-ray or streaming) so I can mute or skip them. Looks like I'm doing the same for this one.

I got through 45 minutes of TFA before I had to shut it down.

 

[Fareal]

Re Adam Driver.

Sorry to lower the tone, but shouldn't the canon offspring of Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford have been played by someone more conventionally attractive than Adam fucking Driver?

He doesn't even vaguely resemble either of them

 

[RumblyTumbly]

Another advantage I'll give the prequels over this sequel era.

The movies were bad, but a lot of the surrounding material was pretty good. Books, Video games, animated shows...there is some pretty good prequel related media out there. Movies sucked, but hey we got good stuff out of it. And even outside of the prequel timeline, we were still getting solid EU material. The Vong Invasion was going on while the prequels were coming out, so at least I had that.

The Sequels….eh....I liked the C-3P0 comic a lot. Some of the surrounding books are ok-ish, but most of them are the same quality as Wendig's work (you have no idea how bad that Aftermath trilogy is). The Marvel series (Particularly Vader and the main SW book) started with promise, but quickly fell off.

I have to struggle to find good things that came about post Disney purchase. Much like the movies themselves, they started off with some promise...but then sank like a rock.

 

[Judge Holden]

Well he certainly came for Snoke.

........goddamn my sick mind for immidiately conjuring the image of some nightmarish HeCameForSnoke.jpg art....

 

[HeyYou]

Well he certainly came for Snoke.

This is official by the way. Published by Marvel Comics.

Wait, they actually, explicitly got romantic? Or is this another "why do they keep making Kylo and Snoke look like lovers when this is supposed to be fake fatherly affection" thing?

 

[Silent Observer]

This fucking guy I swear.
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I'm not disagreeing with that notion, just the notion that denying "Daddy Palpatine" is true somehow makes a difference in Disney continuity (despite Disney doing far worse) is silly.

Definitely agree there. If you're going to accept Disney canon, you gotta take all the bullshit that goes with it

As far as I'm concerned, I'll stick with just the PT, OT and the things I did like from old canon. And it would be nice if this movie's financial failure meant that it sends Disney a message that we want nothing to do with their continuity, but it probably won't. Disney is too far up its own ass right now, and even the Mandalorian seems to want to remind us that the Disney films still happen since we see shit from TLJ and TFA show up or get mentioned in this crap.

Ugh, I disdain the existence of the Mandalorian, mainly because it allows Disney to technically have a victory with it's nu-canon.

 

[Creep3r]

Wait, they actually, explicitly got romantic? Or is this another "why do they keep making Kylo and Snoke look like lovers when this is supposed to be a fake fatherly affection" thing?

Its hard to tell... It feels like he's supposed to be a substitute father but they way its presented feels really creepy. With Anakin and Palpatine it felt more father-son or like work friends I guess. And you actually get to see how Anakin and Palpy meet. This however just feels... really off. They already know each other and Ren is strangely clingy. It doesn't help that they're surrounded by pretty flowers and that Snoke looks really effeminate as they walk through the garden together side by side.

"I've been thinking... about things Snoke-chan... I... I think I like you."

They don't even really show how they met. He just runs off to Snoke's arms after "killing" Luke, and I guess Luke knew Snoke.