Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

I've never seen them with facial hair or a mouth there, but I'm pretty sure that's an Ithorian, established species. I don't recognize your ThunderCat though.
It is an Ithorian, but a complete re-imagining of it that looks like a mutated version of the original with a creepy human mouth, human eyes and a vagina on its forehead.
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Pablo Hidalgo then responded to the questionable redesign by claiming its just an Ithorian subspecies despite production shit from TFA and data from the video games stating otherwise. JJ and the idiots making these movies just wanted to make their own "better and more realistic" versions of aliens. "Wow isn't that silly how it has mouths on its sides? It needs a mouth on the front. A human mouth to be realistic! And all the aliens need to have creepy veiny human skin tones for max realism!"

Speaking of which, I guess they also don't answer when and how Maz got the lightsaber either, do they?
Like its been said before "that's a question for another time".

>Yellow Yoda
I bet you're all still wondering how she got ahold of Luke's lightsaber? Well, the answer to that is...
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it's a story for another time, but not now.

Unless you're willing to fork over $49.99 for the Yellow Yoda Edition of The Forces of Destiny Bluray Box set! Get it now for a limited time only! (FYI there's no answer even there)

Also Disney changed it so she's the one who gave Leia her Boushh disguise for ROTJ and told her how to get into Jabba's palace and save Han. How did she know and do these things? I think you already know the answer to that.

Yellow Yoda despite probably being over 2000 years old was so fucking pointless and worthless they forcibly gave her some purpose by tying her into the OT and making it so the heroes were too stupid to do anything or save Han without her.

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Well you're seeing it now. Disney couldn't even come up with tie-ins that make your care about their characters or universe. Instead they're just mandatory exposition and DLC that you "MUST BUY" in order to make sense of these shitastic films. Even the prequels at their worst were so stupidly simple that it was impossible to not understand what was going on or what the poorly written characters in these poorly written movies wanted to do, so any tie-in material was basically optional but had the benefit of being supplementary and looking better than the crappy films, as was the case with Genndy's Clone Wars series. With Disney's shit, its so riddled with mystery box nonsense, forgotten plot lines that lead to nowhere and horribly unexplored character depth that the tie-ins go from being supplementary but optional expansion material to mandatory shovelfuls of crap that you have to swallow down to make sense of anything, and even then there's no guarantee that anything will make sense and instead only make the films seem more tedious and cynical.
Marvel comics is actually starting a new fucking comic series dedicated to that fucking question, but you'll have to buy every issue to find out the answer because that shit starts at ESB. According to Disney, Luke and the gang went back to Cloud City right after Han is kidnapped to get the old lightsaber, and the story builds up from there...
 
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Incredibly damning. All the local news stations that briefly touch on movie stats before sports are going to pounce on this shit. Imagine a Star Wars movie getting outdone by World of Warcraft :story:

By the way we're watching the Rise of Skywalker on movie night.

If you want to join us, do so. It'll be fun.

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Not fucking surprised. I said it before and I'll say it again. This shit never stood a chance of surviving in China. The only Disney film that did well over there was TFA and right after that everything went down the tube for the box office over there. It didn't help that the Chinese audiences didn't like Finn, and absolutely hated Rose Tico, along with the fact that the SW community over there wasn't fond of JJ's direction either.
The majority of SW's box office mainly comes from the US, with the largest chunk of TFA's profit coming from the US, same with TLJ. In the end, it'll be Burgerland that decides the financial fate of this movie.
 
The long and short of it is:
JJ is an uninspired idiot.
Ruin is a malevolent, spiteful idiot.

Both fucked up their movies in their own way. JJ by making it a lame retread, that pissed on everything of the past, Ruin by being a gloating chucklefuck who was obsessed with doing shit that the audience didn't expect (such as the audience expecting a thrilling, coherent plot).

Both should never be allowed to write a script ever again.
I like to think of it more as:
jj is the fanfic writer that can't do anything original and just repeats the same story while inserting is own bias.
Ruin is the fanfic writer that thinks he's incredibly smart because he read about subversion on tvtropes, so he just makes everything overly dark and unsatisfying while jerking off on his intelligence.
 
Got out of the Cinema. It's one thing to see leaked clips on the laptop. It's another to see them with full context in a cinema. I cringed several times during that film. Context made it worse.

Again, like I said at the half way break. Not one laugh. No grand applauds or clapping (Endgame did have an applause when I went). I think there was one teenage girl who went "no chewie" when they did the very obvious fake out death and one where Hux died, but that was it (yes, Hux got more reaction than Ben/Kylo). The sass the rebel out for delivering bad news didn't need to be there, came off as more strong whammen nonsense.

Beyond cliché. Even for a "turn brain off and relax" film I don't think I found it particularly enjoyable. The only thing I liked was Palpatine and him yeeting Kylo off a cliff. I have been spoiled on Hobbes and Shaw, another turn your brain off film and still found that more enjoyable than this.

Edit: Forgot to add. The most infuriating thing for me is the notion that Leia is not only a trained Jedi but obviously implied/all but stated to be both a better Jedi and teacher than Luke in spite of undergoing none of the training or personal struggle that he did from IV to VI is laughable as it is insulting.
 
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Got out of the Cinema. It's one thing to see leaked clips on the laptop. It's another to see them with full context in a cinema. I cringed several times during that film. Context made it worse.

Again, like I said at the half way break. Not one laugh. No grand applauds or clapping (Endgame did have an applause when I went). I think there was one teenage girl who went "no chewie" when they did the very obvious fake out death and one where Hux died, but that was it (yes, Hux got more reaction than Ben/Kylo). The sass the rebel out for delivering bad news didn't need to be there, came off as more strong whammen nonsense.

Beyond cliché. Even for a "turn brain off and relax" film I don't think I found it particularly enjoyable. The only thing I liked was Palpatine and him yeeting Kylo off a cliff. I have been spoiled on Hobbes and Shaw, another turn your brain off film and still found that more enjoyable than this.

YongYea is that you?

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"On Friday, in its first official sessions in Chinese theaters, the film was barely crawling. By 8.00 p.m. local time, “The Rise of Skywalker” had earned just $2.2 million (RMB15.4 million), according to multiple data tracking services. It stood in fourth place behind three Chinese titles. "

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Please post a pic of the auditorium before it kicks off so we can see how empty it is, and also report back on how many sad speds are in cosplay or whooping and hollering and seal-clapping at anything Rey does.

I didn't see this request in time, but it was one of those really small theaters with lots of space between the aisles. So not a large-capacity room, but there were still a handful of empty seats at the 7:30 show. I heard from a friend that another theater in town was maybe 80% full.

Here are my random thoughts on PLAN 9 in no particular order:

*As we have seen, the opening crawl makes it sound like Palpatine is broadcasting on K-SITH and has been for a while, but this doesn't even happen until the end of the movie, and then only barely, and it's never explained how or why. Dumb. Just send out flyers.

*Awkward pacing that goes from rushed slapdash to standing still. More attempts at Marvel Movie-style humor that just aren't funny. One of two tiny smile moments, and the rest are groans. Lots of pointless obvious lines of exposition for the retards in the audience. "You're a Palpatine." Worst was Hux actually yelling, "I'M THE SPY!" like he was in a comedy skit. Painful.

*My goodness, the Macguffin scavenger hunt. We know originally this was to benefit the time-travel storyline, but wow, the running around gets tedious.

*We already know how exceptional Rey is, but what struck me is the air of smugness in this movie. She struts around like its her universe(TM) and everyone else is slowing her down, and is constantly making faces. Maybe I'd never known to notice it before.
Oh, and besides what you know about the plot, she can still do anything. She can drive a bloody ocean skimmer like a bitch, despite growing up on a desert planet and never seeing water before! Oh, and now she has done a "BIT" of training, so we should finally refer to her as a Jedi. Really?

*Leia's scenes were awkward, used obvious body doubles, and were obvious when they were just Eps. 7 outtakes. They swore they'd never do it, the family swore they'd never do it, but the made Leia a CGI zombie in a flashback, and it looks like a Playstation game. We've seen it here, but it's dumber in person. She owns Luke in a fight, and why not, he's a worthless loser & failure, as we've been told. He sadly admits this as a ghost. By the way, Hamill is gruff and looks really pissed off, delivers most of his lines snarling.

*Speaking of Luke as a ghost: "Oh, yeah, you're a Palpatine? Yeah, we knew. Leia knew." What in the holy hell?

*Two moments of audience reaction. When Palpatine told Rey she was his, a teenage girl in the back screamed out "WHAT, SHE IS?!" but better than that, when the stupid, forced (sorry no other word for it than that) kiss occurs, which is sudden and almost violent, there were audible gasps and groans. The people that liked it thought it was done wrong, and the rest of us...well, you know.

*One of the points in the film is that, "last time, we asked for help, and nobody came." Some randoms keep telling Poe and others that "we aren't alone" which implies that if you believe it hard enough, it will happen. And then at the end, A BILLION ships show up. From where? Why? How? A First Order token black guy says "They're...just people." No they aren't, they are pilots with war machines....with as much explanation as Palpatine existing. Doesn't it imply that this billion ships didn't care to help last time, and are all bastards?

*No Lando's kids. He and the girl have a moment, where it's implied something dumb might happen, but Abrams chickened out of it at the last.

*The pandering dyke kiss is not background or hidden. A sweeping pan actually stops so we can see it. One of them is old, and I didn't get a great look at the other, but I don't think it was Fisher's daughter like we were told.

*Incidental count: Klaud's barely in it twice, a pair of Porgs are in it once for a millisecond.

*THE HOLDO MANEUVER. I just can't. It's a throwaway line that, let's be honest, CONFIRMS the last shitty movie, not disavows it, so there goes that argument.

*D-O is also barely set dressing, and actually speaks. I was surprised, but then again, we can't have him be another BB-8......he sounds like a kid with a walkie-talkie and serves no purpose other than to be cute and sell toys, both of which he FAILs hard at. Oh, but he's "full of information about Exegol." Well, I'll be; how lucky. He is found on Ochi's ship as we have heard and not at Babu Frik's....who by the way is a terrifying nipple-less monkey imp.

*Space horses riding on the surface of a Star Destroyer. One of the single dumbest things I've ever seen. We've talked about it, but i'ts just. so. dumb.

*The final final final battle with Rey and Palpatine.....here is the plot: he begs her to kill him, so she refuses, and kills him. It also happens relatively quickly with very little build-up or struggle, because after all, she is Rey. The stupid arena of cultists and the entire scene were such a Parry Hotter CGI cartoon, it was embarrassing.

*She gave Kylo a bit of her life, so in the end he gives her all of his...couldn't she have given him like 1/3 of hers, or pro-rate it or something? I mean, this is a thing now, it's a "new force power." Nope....she just lets him die. Space Messiah don't need no man.

*In the end, like folks have said around here, Palpatine wins. His spirit is free to go wherever it wants--who says it's not already possessing Rey? His line usurps and confiscates all Skywalker things that ever existed, and even takes their damn name. Somehow Rey knows about the Lars homestead, and where it is. And Rey being Rey, she can't even dig a proper hole. She just wills the lightsabers to be buried, like the final insult.

*Also, everyone: quit saying this movie is "better than Episode 8." That's a dumb and obvious statement, and doesn't help this movie at all. The worst thing that ever happened is better than Episode 8. It doesn't help your point. If you say that this movie checks all the boxes of dumb American popcorn CGI-cartoon movie with explosions, then you'd be saying something.

It may make money just for those reasons....It's a bit worrisome that you can hide bad writing with loud music, CGI, and explosions, but it requires thinking to see otherwise, and then we'd be expecting too much of people in general.
 
It may make money just for those reasons....It's a bit worrisome that you can hide bad writing with loud music, CGI, and explosions, but it requires thinking to see otherwise, and then we'd be expecting too much of people in general.

JJ Abrams and Michael Bay are BFF's dontcha kno?
 
Christopher Lloyd, what are doing in this piece of shit?
Ironically looks like a more realistic effect then in disney wars

Roger rabbit is a fucking masterpiece in and of itself. It's the one, the ONLY time in History, you will see WB and Disney IP on the same screen. Toss in Bob Hoskins and Christopher Lloyd as fantastic counterparts with a dash of good ole fashioned violence and ridiculous cartoony behavior and it's a goddamn classic.
 
We know about the plot, tell us about the audience. How many empty seats, do people grunt during the movie, what is the overall reaction?
Frankly, at key moments, you should yell "god, that's fucking stupid!". Like pretty much at the beginning during the title crawl.

One thing I forgot to mention was, at the beginning, when the STAR WARS logo is shown, four or five young guys started clapping, and one was in the middle of a big "WOOOOOOOOO!" when, after .8 seconds, they realized nobody was joining in with the clapping, and promptly stopped. The whooping guy also stopped right in the middle of his yell, like "WHOO---".

It was like a fair section of the audience knew what to expect with the film, and no one else was having it!
 
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