Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Doctor of Autism]

I know many people have discussed this but I want to bring my hat in the ring for some ideas on how to improve the Sequel Trilogy though these are incomplete ideas


- Keep Rey as an OP Jedi but she would still be a flawed character and not really be in control of her powers due to being a reckless and more cocky character with her character arc about growing more humble and wise throughout the trilogy. She could even be a reckless fighter but lose due to her opponents relying on their wits then brute force which Rey could pick up in her fights.

- Finn’s Stormtrooper arc has been talked to death as a good rewrite opportunity but it could be about a man who was part of the remnants of the Empire due to believing that the Empire would be a more reliable form of government compared to the New Republic’s incompetence and would want to support his family. Over the films he could grow to fight for the cause and initially join the good guys either due to being separated from his crew and wanting to blend in or was a spy. He’d feel remorse over those he killed.

- Show The New Republic being incompetent by having only a small number of scenes showing bureaucratic corruption or show the effects of their mismanagement on the galaxy without dragging out the politics like in the prequels.

- Have the First Order be like Space ISIS and they start off as weak villains but are trying to get resources to make a super weapon that would make them intimidating or a more credible threat to the galaxy at large so they’d be a small scale threat at first. The trilogy would show their progress in it with the second movie’s climax showing them completing it and showing the threat it poses by possibly destroying planets, maybe those the characters spent time on to actually get a personal feeling about the planets blowing up.

- Snoke could be a Sith Lord who had been biding his time during the Empire to make his move and took advantage of the remnants of the Empire to form the First Order in secret by establishing his power with the force to them and using charisma to win them over, having a cult of personality of sorts, this could be used to justify getting Kylo by promising him a more ideal galaxy compared to the current state of things as it could make Kylo sympathetic in how he would believe his actions would make the galaxy a better place.

These are admittedly half baked ideas that I’m unsure would be good, but feel could improve the sequel trilogy.

Since many people seemed to like my half baked ideas, I could give a few more ideas:

- Flesh out the Knights of Ren. You don't need to make a large origin story but give them actual character besides being grunts or edgelords. Make them all defect from Luke for various reasons such as believing in Snoke's cause, following because of Kylo, seeking power for themselves, and make like only one of them a sadistic psychopath because if one is a psychopath then it would have more of an impact than all of them being psychopaths.

- Have Kylo go through a negative character arc where he believes he is fighting for the right cause but over the course of the trilogy he descends into madness from realizing that he was actually not helping maintain a better galaxy. He could either just stick with Snoke but show reluctance towards his role as he has nothing left to lose or go completely insane that he betrayed everyone for nothing to contrast Vader's redemption and parallel Rey's arc in this theoretical ST with Kylo becoming more unhinged while Rey becomes more calm and collected.

- Have Luke's failures come from his own character flaws that many of his students abandoned him due to his more optimistic view on the world and being more trusting. Luke would become a bit jaded similar to how he was in The Last Jedi but due to how he believes he failed his students, but he wouldn't be like this permanently and try to regain control of the situation after Rey comes to him to train. This is admittedly a cliche idea, but it could work I think given the circumstances.

- Hux is a devout follower of The First Order and is essentially Space Goebbels, essentially his role is the same as TFA where he actually was intimidating but it would be kept consistent or he gets even worse over the course of the trilogy. Phasma would mostly be a silent warrior who would take no shit from her fellow officers and would not show much of her fighting capabilities till later on, would mostly carry an intimidating presence.

 

[Creep3r]

That's because it's a pretty clear rip off of other designs the uncreative but very perverted hack behind these horrid designs saw. Yes, I bet the guy who made the Decraniated sex toy thing also made this thing. If I had to guess, it was his idea (and fetish) of Judge Death fucking a cyberdemon from Doom and this squirting out of the results.

I could believe Palpatine or Snoke made these things as shocktroopers... or shit, like the Vong did this (you'd need to make the armor chitin because machines are the devil) as a terror weapon you unleash upon citizens you want to make examples and sacrifices of.

Honestly he does look like something made in a lab but he isn't for some fucking reason. The dictionary claims he appeared on the snow planet and is a bounty hunter. And he has to keep his mouth open in order to see, so if he's eating he's defenseless.

So here are all the brainless/headless freaks in Disney Wars (at least the ones I know about or have been told of):

And reminder that the "Decraniated" are casually sold in catalogs as a "more effective and cheaper droid alternative". Like what the fuck. They're not even used as hookers, just pitiful maids and butlers.

I'm pretty sure that whoever made these things or demanded their creation fapped furiously to this scene.

Also here's the down syndrome alien from TLJ again just because.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Was Phasma supposed to do anything because they proped her up to be important but completely ruined her in TLJ.

 

[Standardized Profile]

I mean, he isn't far off from his already established personality.

Go through the big 5 personality traits. These are personality traits that do not change in adulthood. TLJ Luke has inverted most or all of them. He is resistant to change and new ideas; he has no goals and dismisses even the idea of duty; he isolates himself and has no interest in other people, even his family and closest friends. This is not a mood or a phase, it's how he acts for (apparently) several years. That's why the character does not ring true.

Luke was a failure of a hero, and I can't imagine that "Legend" title being thrown on him helped either.

I don't know about "hero," but Luke achieved nearly all his goals by the end of the trilogy. While he never made it to the academy, he did become a professional pilot and a military officer. He made several substantial contributions to the rebellion. He became a Jedi knight. He met his father and wrested him from control of the Emperor, which everyone said was impossible. He was not a failure, but someone who persevered through failures. That's another important character trait that's missing in the Disney version.

The "legend" thing never made sense. That's the Disney writers assuming, because he is famous in the real world, he would be famous in Star Wars, too. But in the Star Wars universe, he didn't have a camera following him around all the time with the London Symphony Orchestra. He was just one person in a galaxy-spanning war. Only military history nerds and Jedi geeks would even know his name.

 

[Exceptionally Exceptional]

Honestly he does look like something made in a lab but he isn't for some fucking reason. The dictionary claims he appeared on the snow planet and is a bounty hunter. And he has to keep his mouth open in order to see, so if he's eating he's defenseless.

So here are all the brainless/headless freaks in Disney Wars (at least the ones I know about or have been told of):
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And reminder that the "Decraniated" are casually sold in catalogs as a "more effective and cheaper droid alternative". Like what the fuck. They're not even used as hookers, just pitiful maids and butlers.

"Decraniated"
A human with their brain removed, replaced with electronics, and used for slave labor? You know what me and my buddies call that? A Servitor. Now Star Wars is outright ripping off 40k and doing a piss poor job of it.

 

[Love Machine]

MERRY CHRISTMAS, TO ANOTHER YEAR OF DISNEY WARS!!!

 

[BipolarPon]

MERRY CHRISTMAS, TO ANOTHER YEAR OF DISNEY WARS!!!

My Christmas wish is that the Mandalorian doesn't go to shit like GoT.

 

[Rotollo]

MERRY CHRISTMAS, TO ANOTHER YEAR OF DISNEY WARS!!!

Hopefully this franchise won't outlive everyone posting in the thread god bless everyone, except Kennedy, who's probably quaking in her boots right now.

 

[Exceptionally Exceptional]

It Sithmas

Merr Sithmas

 

[verissimus]

Everyone together : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62UzLgdb1GQ

 

[CumDumpster]

>The only existing camrip has the watermark of "GetB8"
I really hate these watermarks over camrips these days. I know it's done to drum up business (1xBet did the same thing), but to see pirates doing that is really annoying to me since there's no merit in doing that and it isn't a security measure.

 

[Old Man Mario]

Christmas. The time of year we celebrate our Lord and Savior, The Child.



And for those of you who do not believe in the divinity of the Baby Yoda, have a Happy Hanukkah!


Happy Life Day! Hopefully Star Wars can be great again.

 

[Based Papa John]

Found this gem on Facebook.

A few things:

1. I agree that the hate Lucas trend was too much, and may have been one of the motivating factors for Lucas selling the thing to Disney, but that doesn't absolve Disney.
2. Again, no actors were bullied off of social media. There are few spergs, but the "fans" did not ruin any of the sequel actors' lives.
3. The whole "ruined my childhood" argument is ultimately a strawman that's used to deflect legitimate criticism of the franchise.

Just pure cringe.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Since many people seemed to like my half baked ideas, I could give a few more ideas:

- Flesh out the Knights of Ren. You don't need to make a large origin story but give them actual character besides being grunts or edgelords. Make them all defect from Luke for various reasons such as believing in Snoke's cause, following because of Kylo, seeking power for themselves, and make like only one of them a sadistic psychopath because if one is a psychopath then it would have more of an impact than all of them being psychopaths.

- Have Kylo go through a negative character arc where he believes he is fighting for the right cause but over the course of the trilogy he descends into madness from realizing that he was actually not helping maintain a better galaxy. He could either just stick with Snoke but show reluctance towards his role as he has nothing left to lose or go completely insane that he betrayed everyone for nothing to contrast Vader's redemption and parallel Rey's arc in this theoretical ST with Kylo becoming more unhinged while Rey becomes more calm and collected.

- Have Luke's failures come from his own character flaws that many of his students abandoned him due to his more optimistic view on the world and being more trusting. Luke would become a bit jaded similar to how he was in The Last Jedi but due to how he believes he failed his students, but he wouldn't be like this permanently and try to regain control of the situation after Rey comes to him to train. This is admittedly a cliche idea, but it could work I think given the circumstances.

- Hux is a devout follower of The First Order and is essentially Space Goebbels, essentially his role is the same as TFA where he actually was intimidating but it would be kept consistent or he gets even worse over the course of the trilogy. Phasma would mostly be a silent warrior who would take no shit from her fellow officers and would not show much of her fighting capabilities till later on, would mostly carry an intimidating presence.

But you need to establish what the theme of the trilogy should be first before you start writing it out and not figure it while making it.

 

[Exceptionally Exceptional]

Found this gem on Facebook.

3. The whole "ruined my childhood" argument is ultimately a strawman that's used to deflect legitimate criticism of the franchise.

Just pure cringe.

I knew going in that this wouldn't recapture any of the feelings the OT gave me. I mean, the PT couldn't recapture it either and Lucas actually worked on that. But the sequels failed to even give me the same level of enjoyment the prequels did even with all their many, many flaws.
I just wanted a good movie, goddamnit.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

You know, I’m starting to wonder if there’s a longer version of IX. Any of you guys agree? Because of how the released was so half-assed in execution and rushed to the fucking bone in terms of editing and pacing, really makes you wonder if there was a extended cut that Disney shelved in post production.

 

[Shield Breaker]

You know, I’m starting to wonder if there’s a longer version of IX. Any of you guys agree? Because of how the released was so half-assed in execution and rushed to the fucking bone in terms of editing and pacing, really makes you wonder if there was a extended cut that Disney shelved in post production.

Supposedly there's several cuts, including one by Lucas.

 

[Exceptionally Exceptional]

You know, I’m starting to wonder if there’s a longer version of IX. Any of you guys agree? Because of how the released was so half-assed in execution and rushed to the fucking bone in terms of editing and pacing, really makes you wonder if there was a extended cut that Disney shelved in post production.

Oh I don't doubt there is. One thing even the people praising it agree on with the people bashing it is that the pacing is pretty frantic and that they packed in more than enough to damn near flesh out another movie if they wanted.
I think it's because of this prevailing attitude that kids just can't sit still for longer than 90-120 minutes.
They also might have completely misinterpreted what people mean when they said you could cut about 1/3 to half of TLJ out and it wouldn't change a damn thing. They didn't mean that in terms of time, but the content that took up that time. Namely the Canto Bight shit.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Honestly he does look like something made in a lab but he isn't for some fucking reason. The dictionary claims he appeared on the snow planet and is a bounty hunter. And he has to keep his mouth open in order to see, so if he's eating he's defenseless.

So here are all the brainless/headless freaks in Disney Wars (at least the ones I know about or have been told of):
View attachment 1066707View attachment 1066687View attachment 1066688View attachment 1066706View attachment 1066685View attachment 1066692
And reminder that the "Decraniated" are casually sold in catalogs as a "more effective and cheaper droid alternative". Like what the fuck. They're not even used as hookers, just pitiful maids and butlers.

I'm pretty sure that whoever made these things or demanded their creation fapped furiously to this scene.

They really remind of 40k servitors. A lot of new SW feels like they rip it off with things like: Runes, corruption and powerful artifacts.

 

[BrunoMattei]

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