Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Yeah and it doesn't help the concept of a weak villain becoming more competent/strong isn't much of a stretch as many stories have main villains who started off weak and incompetent, and this would've been perfect for Star Wars given it contrasts many of the previous villains who started off as competent.

We are more likely to see a villian transition their gender in Star Wars....

As far as where does Star Wars go? At the moment, they ride Mandalorian out. Keep on doing Disney + stuff...

Then, they jump to the past/future...

All episide 9 does is solidify the slow down, and acceletate change of management...

In a year, if Mandalorian doesn't shit the bed: peope will get over 9, and Disney can move forward with movies...

Hopefully with a bit more care and tact...
 
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Yuck.(:_(

That's the last thing Star Wars needs. I have never ever known any franchise which was able to carry on with itself (without retconning what came before) by adopting some pretentious nihilistic tone/themes in it. Not one and for good reason namely because it would tonally not make much sense. The whole point of that sort of mindset is that things must come to some end or that struggling is pointless. How are you supposed to continue from that with the same idea and tone? You can't.

Even then, wtf would you want Rian Johnson heading Star Wars anyway even if you agreed with his "vision"? Really so you really want to give a 4 billion dollar franchise to a guy that treats fans like garbage, who will only listen to sycophants, who will use friends in the media to gaslight fans as "Russian" bots or toxic misogynist racists, who has proven he can't work with other people's ideas, etc.? Piss off CBR.
 
Without looking it up, how many Medal of Honor recipients can you name?
Alvin York, John Basilone, Mitchel Paige, Audie Murphy, Richard Bong, Bruce Crandall...

Who were the pilots of the Enola Gay?
Enola Gay was commanded by Paul Tibbets. He named the aircraft after his wife.

What's the name of the guy who shot Osama Bin Laden?
No idea, but then, I've never really done any reading on that particular op.

Military heroism does not necessarily make one a celebrity or a legend.
Fixed. However, I believe that in the Alliance's case, they would want to advertise Luke's participation in their rebellion as intensely as possible.

Being burned alive by governments is very common.
Dramatizing real or invented atrocities by an opposing government for the purposes of propaganda is also very common. 😉

So? Lots of military aviators know each other. That doesn't make their kids famous.
Anakin was inarguably famous, however. There are literal years worth of Republic propaganda transmissions on the galactic HoloNet playing up his public persona as the Jedi "Hero With No Fear."

I can make my own argument from incredulity. It would be passing strange if the Alliance (and later Republic) made a target out of their only Jedi by publishing his image and facts about his life all over the galaxy.
I think they would consider the trade-off to be more than favorable to them. As a rebel, Luke would be a target regardless, so they might as well benefit from publicizing his exploits as loudly as possible.

The fact of his Jedi studies would not be of interest to the vast majority of the galaxy, which considered the Jedi an ancient religion based on superstition, but it would certainly draw attention from Imperial quarters.
Again, the vast majority of the rest of the Galaxy would have living memory of years of pro-Jedi Republic propaganda from the Clone Wars. Don't put too much stock in the opinions of a New Order fanatic and a cynical smuggler as being representative of the Galactic "Joe Public."

His identity, and especially his Force sensitivity, would be a closely-guarded secret.

If anyone from the OT was known to civilians, it would have been Leia. Imperial Senator, royalty of a lost planet, figurehead of the genocided Alderaanians. That's the kind of person you use in propaganda.
That's one kind of person. Luke is another very attractive candidate for propagandization, bearing in mind both his "working-class hero" cred and his status as the son of a famous war-hero.
 
That's the last thing Star Wars needs. I have never ever known any franchise which was able to carry on with itself (without retconning what came before) by adopting some pretentious nihilistic tone/themes in it. Not one and for good reason namely because it would tonally not make much sense. The whole point of that sort of mindset is that things must come to some end or that struggling is pointless. How are you supposed to continue from that with the same idea and tone? You can't.

Even then, wtf would you want Rian Johnson heading Star Wars anyway even if you agreed with his "vision"? Really so you really want to give a 4 billion dollar franchise to a guy that treats fans like garbage, who will only listen to sycophants, who will use friends in the media to gaslight fans as "Russian" bots or toxic misogynist racists, who has proven he can't work with other people's ideas, etc.? Piss off CBR.

Not to go too off a tangent. But, I notice that "journalists" use the term deconstruction alot.

I don't think they know what it means or how it's implemented.

Luke was NOT deconstructed in TLJ, his archetype was(wise old sage). To do that, RJ committed character assasination on Luke...

If it was a proper deconstructoon. Luke would have never lost his unwavering faith or resilence.

Instead, RJ would have grounded the world around Luke. To show his best trait could be serious flaw. That's a deconstruction, the character doesn't change(he is played straight). The world around them does...
 
Alvin York, John Basilone, Mitchel Paige, Audie Murphy, Richard Bong, Bruce Crandall...

Enola Gay was commanded by Paul Tibbets. He named the aircraft after his wife.

No idea, but then, I've never really done any reading on that particular op.

Fixed. However, I believe that in the Alliance's case, they would want to advertise Luke's participation in their rebellion as intensely as possible.

Dramatizing real or invented atrocities by an opposing government for the purposes of propaganda is also very common. 😉

Anakin was inarguably famous, however. There are literal years worth of Republic propaganda transmissions on the galactic HoloNet playing up his public persona as the Jedi "Hero With No Fear."

I think they would consider the trade-off to be more than favorable to them. As a rebel, Luke would be a target regardless, so they might as well benefit from publicizing his exploits as loudly as possible.

Again, the vast majority of the rest of the Galaxy would have living memory of years of pro-Jedi Republic propaganda from the Clone Wars. Don't put too much stock in the opinions of a New Order fanatic and a cynical smuggler as being representative of the Galactic "Joe Public."

That's one kind of person. Luke is another very attractive candidate for propagandization, bearing in mind both his "working-class hero" cred and his status as the son of a famous war-hero.
Not to not pick, but totally will, the Enola Gay was named after his mother. Carry on.
 
Again, the vast majority of the rest of the Galaxy would have living memory of years of pro-Jedi Republic propaganda from the Clone Wars. Don't put too much stock in the opinions of a New Order fanatic and a cynical smuggler as being representative of the Galactic "Joe Public."

TFA happens like 30 years after yavin 4, which at that point was under extensive empire control for years (which probably had vast interest to purge everything related to jedi), so "living memory" is a bit of a stretch. there also weren't that many jedi compared to the whole galaxy, people could probably go their whole life without ever encountering one. then you have to consider the scope, how many people care what happens outside their country? now apply that to a planet or a whole galaxy. sure, the details would be stored somewhere, but how many people would care about it enough to look it up or have access to it? lot of shitholes probably don't even have schools or anything above basic reading/writing and math.

No idea, but then, I've never really done any reading on that particular op.

afaik they never made it public to protect the operator(s) and his family. only thing known is it was seal team 6 (depending on who you ask either the star trek version or united states).

it makes sense following the brushstrokes of the hero's journey for him to find fortune and fame, but then we get leia getting dunked on for being vader's daughter, so...
 
TFA happens like 30 years after yavin 4, which at that point was under extensive empire control for years (which probably had vast interest to purge everything related to jedi), so "living memory" is a bit of a stretch.
I was talking about immediately after Yavin, though.

there also weren't that many jedi compared to the whole galaxy, people could probably go their whole life without ever encountering one. then you have to consider the scope, how many people care what happens outside their country?
How many people have met a Hollywood actor in person?

it makes sense following the brushstrokes of the hero's journey for him to find fortune and fame, but then we get leia getting dunked on for being vader's daughter, so...
Disney re-tardation...
 
Why argue over JJ or Rian being the most at fault. We all know that it was Kennedy, whose idiot ass managed to put women in sci-fi back thirty years.

If I may speculate:

Someone mentioned that KK was basically a glorified secretary, and I think that explains a lot. It seems like she resented working for successful men, and once she got power( thanks to a man btw) and, George, recommending her, she showed her true colors.

The biggest irony is that if Rey had just been written as a fallible woman with a real personality, she would be hugely popular.

SJWs are so dumb they think men hate cool and strong fantasy women, but if you pay attention, especially in nerd circles, they can't stop talking about how much they love their waifus.

The only male demographic that doesn't seem to like strong women that much, are 12-year-olds that are still afraid of cooties...
 
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SJWs are so dumb they think men hate cool and strong fantasy women: but if you pay attention, especially in nerd circles, they can't stop talking about how much they love their waifus.

And of course they've never heard of Red Sonja, second famous among REH's characters only next to Conan.
 
After a short holiday break from my very important job posting here at the farms...Im back (and not even I give a shit)

Rate me late but Linkara released his videos on the TLJ comic and yep, Linkara said he loved TLJ...
Honestly, it has been years since I watched this fat tard but he surely reminded as to why I quit watching him.

Green MM loving weirdo.
Oh and his videos honestly suck ass, just constant TLJ jerking off. He actually loved the Super Leia scene, saying that its something the force can do.
Aw no, you soy idiot, the force cant save you from something like this. If it could, we would have seen it before...

Anyway, late Merry Christmas everyone
 
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Oedipus the Barbarian.
In fairness to Oedipus, if daddy haven't went to the Oracle in the first place. If he did then man up to kill baby Oedipus himself and none of the prophecy would have happened.

Back on topic, Palp, Kylo and Ren familial relationship is eerily similar to Heracles as Zeus was his great-grandfather dad side and daddy on mom's side.
 
In fairness to Oedipus, if daddy haven't went to the Oracle in the first place. If he did then man up to kill baby Oedipus himself and none of the prophecy would have happened.

Back on topic, Palp, Kylo and Ren familial relationship is eerily similar to Heracles as Zeus was his great-grandfather dad side and daddy on mom's side.

Or if he just realized that a typical trope with prophecies are that they are self fulfilling,aka, the prevention actually aids in it happening, the best course of action would be to do nothing.
 
I was talking about immediately after Yavin, though.
still around 20 years of something that was "mystical" to begin with. going by the OT it was already considered a weird outdated religion (I know I know, that line doesn't make much sense anymore with the prequels existing).

How many people have met a Hollywood actor in person?
jedi aren't celebrities

Disney re-tardation...
still logical in some sense. how many people would've trusted hitler's daughter in the 60's, especially in politics?
 
Hummm...TROS suddenly got a little boost in ticket sales, it seems...

Im sure Disney had nothing to do with this and it was a simple result of us white man-babies realizing the brilliance of it and deciding to rewatch it over and over again. Hell, Im sure if you took the name of every person that went to watch it and rewatch it, some of them arent even alive anymore! Would you look at that!

The prequels were nominated and Hayden won two razzies for them.

Why do I get the feeling we will never, ever, see that happening with the sequel trilogy. Not even a single nomination...We may even get more oscars for TROS than expected.

Bart: Humm, really makes you think...

Referring to Oedipus or Palp's? :?:
The Former but same goes to Palpy in a way
 
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