Furry Fandom and Drama General

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Honestly, I wonder how a fandom centralised around cartoon animals attracts perverts that are BGLT+ and have lots of fetishes. Cartoons usually are G-Rated or PG-Rated.

Then again, I wonder how Tumblr, a mere publishing platform, attracts social justice warriors.
 
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Saw this over in the Sergals thread, and since it is off topic I figured it should be posted here. I just have to comment on this, as BoozyBadger is one of my favorite furfag windmills to tilt at....

I’m amused greatly at how in his relatively new life as a furry and member of the fandom, Boozys path keeps crossing with pedos and pedo accusations. First, in the midst of his gaming stream someone joins with “Boozyyiffshiskids” as their name and he flys off the handle. Then he finds out that the owner of InkedFur, Sangie, who jumped forth to sponsor Boozy’s law blog after Boozy became a darling of the fandom, is a pedo. then furries ask him to use his leet legal skillz to get pedo Sisk off the hook.

You'd think the Drunkbadger would start to see a pattern, with regards his beloved furry fandom, but he seems to be deliberately missing it.

I also have to laugh at oldfag tranny Crissa’s response in the #saveoursisk thread, and in how he nervously asks if there has to be proof you were chatting up the minor online because they were a minor. He’s a long time degenerate denizen of cybersex haven Furrymuck; i’m sure that the thought that one of the randos that he picks up and yiffs with is under age is something that keeps him up many a night, and has for many years.

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Pulling an R Kelly
 
From a Telegram group discussion, a vore fetishist with a taste for kids.
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Honestly, I wonder how a fandom centralised around cartoon animals attracts perverts that are BGLT+ and have lots of fetishes. Cartoons usually are G-Rated or PG-Rated.
Sullying something innocent is part of the fetish. People wonder why they turn out to be pedos. They're degenerate fetishists with the same interests as children. It's fucking obvious why they're pedos.
 
Honestly, I wonder how a fandom centralised around cartoon animals attracts perverts that are BGLT+ and have lots of fetishes. Cartoons usually are G-Rated or PG-Rated.

Then again, I wonder how Tumblr, a mere publishing platform, attracts social justice warriors.

Simple:
The roots of the furry fandom are an offshoot of the sci-fi fandom of the late 70s. Early trekkies with specific interest in anthro aliens. That became furry.

The fandom was *always* horny. Nerds are horny. There's nothing wrong with that if you don't retreat so far into fantasy that you become unrelatable or start justifying unacceptable things ("I'm attracted to dogs, and that's natural for me, so I'm entitled to it!").

So as far as the furry fandom being about cartoons or anthros in the traditional sense, from Bugs Bunny to werewolves, you still have that, but you also have a huge swath of people that only see it as a proxy for their personal fetishes and paraphilias. Again, no judgement there as long as we're talking safe, sane and informed consent.

It fluctuates between the two, but I think that's the core history of the fandom simplifed.
 
I'm not shocked that the #SaveOurSisk crowd is loaded with drama whores themselves, especially with how political many are. This drama is getting fascinating to watch.
If it's getting to the point where SOS is becoming a shitfest it may be better off developing in the sergal thread, since there's a lot more info on that there.
 
From a Telegram group discussion, a vore fetishist with a taste for kids.
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"Developed a taste for human kids" and "delicious ;-D" don't belong in the same sentence, especially if you're a 32-year old vore-loving britfag thats also into watersports.
 
Simple:
The roots of the furry fandom are an offshoot of the sci-fi fandom of the late 70s. Early trekkies with specific interest in anthro aliens. That became furry.

The fandom was *always* horny. Nerds are horny. There's nothing wrong with that if you don't retreat so far into fantasy that you become unrelatable or start justifying unacceptable things ("I'm attracted to dogs, and that's natural for me, so I'm entitled to it!").

All true and, I can’t help but wonder if the fact that the early convention organizers (and thus in those pre-social media days, the influencers of the nascent fandom) were flamboyant, fetish-y and extra weird LA and San Francisco gay guys. I think that definitely set the tone for the fandom as a fetish and LGBT space and I’ve often thought that if Merlino, O’Riley and the others hadn't been around there would never have been a furry fandom - cartoon and anthro animals are just niche parts of the animation and sci-fi fandoms, they can’t really sustain their own fandom in and of themselves.
 
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The fandom was *always* horny. Nerds are horny. There's nothing wrong with that if you don't retreat so far into fantasy that you become unrelatable or start justifying unacceptable things ("I'm attracted to dogs, and that's natural for me, so I'm entitled to it!").

In the 90s conventions were giant orgies. Although we kept it to two legs and not four and now I guess that's gone wrong.
 
All true and, I can’t help but wonder if the fact that the early convention organizers (and thus in those pre-social media days, the influencers of the nascent fandom) were flamboyant, fetish-y and extra weird LA and San Francisco gay guys. I think that definitely set the tone for the fandom as a fetish and LGBT space and I’ve often thought that if Merlino, O’Riley and the others hadn't been around there would never have been a furry fandom - cartoon and anthro animals are just niche parts of the animation and sci-fi fandoms, they can’t really sustain their own fandom in and of themselves.

If not Merlino and O'Riley, then it might have been someone else to eventually bring it all together. Whether it would have become cleaner or more degenerate is a matter of speculation.
 
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"Developed a taste for human kids" and "delicious ;-D" don't belong in the same sentence, especially if you're a 32-year old vore-loving britfag thats also into watersports.
I'm guessing he gets them vore commissions of his fursona to make his dick hard.

But hey! the dude suffers from Asperger's syndrome and WON'T get a job. The lazy fucker prefers to use public tax dollars to jet-off around the world to furry cons.

James,s LJ life-story.

Being a asshat troll in Telegram chats is one of his stronger points.
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If not Merlino and O'Riley, then it might have been someone else to eventually bring it all together. Whether it would have become cleaner or more degenerate is a matter of speculation.

I think you’re absolutely right; but on the other hand, I remember when I was around furries, for all that they would try and have a conversation about anthropomorphic animals that WASN'T about sex and fetishes, they really couldn’t sustain it.

Even the “I’m not that kind of furry!” furries couldn’t keep up a conversation about anthropomorphic literature, adventure stories, television, etc. without the talk eventually turning to how sexy Lieutenant M’Ress was on Star Trek.

And I knew more than a few “not that kind of furry!” furries who inevitably did in-fact turn into that kind of furry. You could watch it happen. It’s almost like they would reach a point where there’s simply was no more art to draw and no more conversations to have that weren’t about yiff, and they would just threw up their hands and say “well you get the lube, I’ll get the cucumber, and let’s get down to it.”

It kind of reminds me of an old Simpsons episode (don’t ask me which one, there’s only like, 1 billion of them) where Homer has to go cold turkey, and while at a Springfield isotopes game, says “I can’t believe how boring baseball is when you’re sober”.
 
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So my fellow Kiwis, I have a little inquiry to ask of you.

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Did you ever hear the tragedy of Vivisector The Forums? I thought not. It's not a story the furfags would tell you. It's a shitlord legend.

Vivisector was a forum space created in 2007 in a similar vein to forums like Something Awful or Crush Yiff Destroy, that was centered primarily around many exceptional individuals and drama in the furry community. While many of it's posts have been lost to time, there's archives of a couple of their threads on archive.is and archive.org, as well as an official "archive" that just barely functions on the original url: https://forums.vivisector.org/index.php (There's no css and no posts after 2015 or so.) Also, they have a dead blog page that's still up as well: https://vivisector.org/vivblog/ [archive] and they used to have an IRC chat channel.

This thread in particular is a great example of what the overall culture was like at the time.

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So what happened to them? CURRENT YEAR happened.

(screencap taken from lulz.net)
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And in a flayrah blog post [archive] , we get a little more context.

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(There's not much documentation on this whole drama so take it with a grain of salt I suppose.)

The long and short of it is the forums were shut down and replaced with a Discord server, and the Vivisector.org home page now looks like this:

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As a long time lurker, it's painful to see a vast collection of exceptional happenings be left to die this way. (Kinda reminds you of something else huh?) I hope I'm not the only one who remembers what Vivisector used to be, but with Kiwi Farms I suppose it doesn't matter much anymore.

I have no desire to look at the new Discord, but feel free to do so yourself and share any exceptional experiences you have. (Just don't do anything illegal.)
 

So my fellow Kiwis, I have a little inquiry to ask of you.

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Did you ever hear the tragedy of Vivisector The Forums? I thought not. It's not a story the furfags would tell you. It's a shitlord legend.

Vivisector was a forum space created in 2007 in a similar vein to forums like Something Awful or Crush Yiff Destroy, that was centered primarily around many exceptional individuals and drama in the furry community. While many of it's posts have been lost to time, there's archives of a couple of their threads on archive.li and archive.org, as well as an official "archive" that just barely functions on the original url: https://forums.vivisector.org/index.php (There's no css and no posts after 2015 or so.) Also, they have a dead blog page that's still up as well: https://vivisector.org/vivblog/ [archive] and they used to have an IRC chat channel.

This thread in particular is a great example of what the overall culture was like at the time.

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So what happened to them? CURRENT YEAR happened.

(screencap taken from lulz.net)
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And in a flayrah blog post [archive] , we get a little more context.

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(There's not much documentation on this whole drama so take it with a grain of salt I suppose.)

The long and short of it is the forums were shut down and replaced with a Discord server, and the Vivisector.org home page now looks like this:

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As a long time lurker, it's painful to see a vast collection of exceptional happenings be left to die this way. (Kinda reminds you of something else huh?) I hope I'm not the only one who remembers what Vivisector used to be, but with Kiwi Farms I suppose it doesn't matter much anymore.

I have no desire to look at the new Discord, but feel free to do so yourself and share any exceptional experiences you have. (Just don't do anything illegal.)

This was all covered as it went down. Even a dox thread.
 
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