Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Rei is shit]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Creep3r]

Sequelanstifer (Inciter of sequels)
Sequelverlängerer (Prolonger of sequels)

Honestly the guy seems like everything wrong with fandoms in general today, but I really can't rag on the guy too much because unlike faggots like Hidalgo or the rest of the nu-fanbase, he had the decency to actually take criticism and mockery head on without blocking people and deleting content. That earns some minimal respect from me I guess. But holy fuck that diabetic scab of his bothers me to no end. I could easily picture this guy as being the sort who actually eats crap like this:

I agree. Nothing short of retconning the sequel trilogy out of existence and getting back to basics is going to save Star Wars. Nobody outside of the SJW/left-wing crowd wanted to see Luke, Han, and Leia destroyed like this. The best thing to do would be to throw out the Abrams/Johnson/Kennedy canon, pick up from Return of the Jedi, and let the characters progress in a direction that's consistent with what the original films established. It doesn't have to be a carbon copy of the old EU (and really, it shouldn't), but it absolutely needs to be something that honors what came before and stays true to the characters as they were. Do that, and Star Wars will be a huge moneymaker again.

And frankly, with Carrie Fisher gone and Mark Hamill being such a left-wing weirdo these days, I don't think too many people would be opposed to seeing new actors in the classic roles provided the stories are good.

Honestly that would be the best thing to do right now. They could actually get off to a good start by using the Mandalorian to begin a new continuity considering that its the only SW property under Disney that's had a positive reception from the majority and it does all the things you said, it honors the original films and the old EU while being original itself instead of a donut steal and the characters are original and likeable and they finally justified IG-11 by making him truly distinct.

And again, starting a new continuity with it would be easy. Just have an episode where that female bounty hunter (Dune right?) starts talking about the Minister of Defense (retconning the demilitarization of the New Republic) for the New Republic and how she has nothing but respect and adoration for the Minister which is then followed by the Mando or another character saying "but isn't she the daughter of Vader?" to which she could respond "So? She and her brother helped to destroy what their father had built and she gave hope to New Alderaan. The New Republic and the survivors of Alderaan could not possibly respect her more than we already do." There, easy retcon that restores the honor of the characters with some Leia glorification mush that would make the neo-feminist part of the nu-fanbase along with the story group pleased enough to shut up for a while until Kennedy leaves. After that, they could resolve the sequel references in the show like Canto Bight by posting some dumb guide that reveals that Canto Bight is some lame casino on Nar Shaddaa that everyone hates and that the Death Troopers are best at stealth shit but aren't the best the Empire has to offer, thus allowing room for more elites.

But it'll sadly never happen because of this:

Problem is: Disney has painted itself into a corner with their shill-inflicted rhetoric about entitled old fans and how important the nuFans are and all that jazz.
Ditching the ST would mean admitting that this was all just a sham and Disney can't do that, since they would get a major social media shitstorm.
It would also mean admitting that Disney had absolutely no clue what they did with the ST, that they fucked up and Disney can't do that since their investors get angry.

Worst of all: Carrie Fisher is dead, Harrison Ford is unlikely to do much more than what he did in Plan IX (he didn't even bother to shave for crying out loud), so I don't see them making a new ST even if they wanted to.

Any attempt at a retcon may even be stopped by those claiming it disrespects Carrie and her character despite the films already doing that ten fold.

Filoni Favreau saving Star Wars single-handedly, waifus and all.

Fixed that for you.

From the visual dictionary:
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Am I reading this right? Is this book saying the entire Resistance has just 24 fighter-crafts total?

Klaud lore:
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Rey, Poe, and Finn are part of Chewbacca's honor family. What? Why is Chewbacca still with them? Apparently in between TLJ and TRoS he works like a slave for this doomed resistance of strangers. After Han died he should have flown off in the Falcon to mourn on Kashyyyk with his family or something.

Its like Disney is actually trying to find every possible way imaginable to be infinitely worse than the prequels, and they have. They even managed to outdo George's "3 million troopers" shit. 24 fucking fighters?!

Here's a nightmare for you. Seeing the continued decline of SW in popularity, Disney decides to add some of the space-faring Marvel characters into the series. I know that it seems like a ridiculous idea, but they already added coke to the universe just to sell it at Galaxy's Edge.

You know damn well they're going to do a Marvel/Star Wars comic crossover at some point. They're just waiting for the "toxicity" to waver. Deluded fucks. They don't even get why fans of both don't want or need one. We know this. They just don't get Star Wars.

EDIT: Why's he gotta be Ri-Lee? Riley could easily exist in a universe with names like Ben, Luke, Han, and Owen. Whatever.

Worst part is it could very likely happen since people won't stop shilling Patton Oswalt's awful crossover idea...

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

Whelp.... I’m going in.

 

[verissimus]

The Mandolorian was good until Baby Yoda suddenly looked directly at the camera and gave a speech about global warming and why humans must eat bugs in order to survive the next century. Then the scene continued from then on like nothing ever happened.

Weird moment. Otherwise definately worth your time. Filoni is single handedly saving Star Wars, waifus and all.

Well, the Phantom Menace had a talking pizza roll in that movie, so I guess what you described isn't too far-fetch.

 

[Reverend]

So the youtube lady who scrapped 2500 RT verified scores, went back and did it now with 6000. Ran into a 'limit' that RT only lets you go back 6000 scores no farther. What did she find? Either humanity only knows a dozen words when they post reviews or we got some HelloMrRoboto going on:

 

[Shield Breaker]

What's that thing on his cheek anyway? it doesn't look like a mole

A scar from the time he tried to touch his wife.

 

[damian]

@damian where's that last link to the final Ep. of Mandalorian??

Mandalorian 08:

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[ZehnBoat]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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it didn't make as much as captain marvel so it obviously sucked

 

[Cyril Sneer]

So what are the odds that Cara eventually ends up becoming a Mandalorian herself? She enjoys and is good at fighting, and doesn't seem to have any family or friends beyond Mando himself (not even a homeworld). Having her inducted into the clan would also allow the showrunners to do some more world-building by showing whatever ceremony accompanies that sort of adoption.

 

[Blackhole]

What a tremendous shitshow RoSW was. The Rat couldn't even use the shills to fix this utter dumpster fire

 

[Creep3r]

So what are the odds that Cara eventually ends up becoming a Mandalorian herself? She enjoys and is good at fighting, and doesn't seem to have any family or friends beyond Mando himself (not even a homeworld). Having her inducted into the clan would also allow the showrunners to do some more world-building by showing whatever ceremony accompanies that sort of adoption.

I thought its pretty obvious that she's going to join team dirt rhino. My only concern is that I hope they don't add too many human characters to his clan and turn this into Rogue One 2.0 for the sake of virtue signalling again. Either rebuild IG-11 or make a new droid and bring in some aliens instead. 2-3 humans is enough.

 

[HumanHive]

The thing about Disney "fixing" the "mistake" of Chewbacca not getting a medal, and the slowly creeping (but thankfully not quite yet to the surface) desire to give Droids equal status as lifeforms is that those elements are part of what made Star Wars an interesting setting. It was flawed. There was racism against droids and aliens. Even a good hearted hero like Luke Skywalker just kind of rolls his eyes at the droids as they attempt to explain their plight in ANH. Their status was equivalent to slaves in the Roman Empire, and that was that. There was no escape for them from that position on the social hierarchy. It was unfair and you sympathize with the droids for that reason, but then the SJWs come swooping in trying to "fix" things that Lucas "did wrong". And what do you end up with? A setting that lacks not only verisimilitude to our flawed reality, but also basic narrative conflict. If all Kittens have been given mittens and all boo-boos have been kissed, then a writer ten years down the road is very limited in the stories he can tell. It may seem like a very small autistic thing to complain about Chewie being given a medal, but it shows where Disney's new priorities are. Not creating new and interesting material to build off on, but instead to slash and burn the old and replace it with vast fields of nothing.

 

[Creep3r]

The thing about Disney "fixing" the "mistake" of Chewbacca not getting a medal, and the slowly creeping (but thankfully not quite yet to the surface) desire to give Droids equal status as lifeforms is that those elements are part of what made Star Wars an interesting setting. It was flawed. There was racism against droids and aliens. Even a good hearted hero like Luke Skywalker just kind of rolls his eyes at the droids as they attempt to explain their plight in ANH. Their status was equivalent to slaves in the Roman Empire, and that was that. There was no escape for them from that position on the social hierarchy. It was unfair and you sympathize with the droids for that reason, but then the SJWs come swooping in trying to "fix" things that Lucas "did wrong". And what do you end up with? A setting that lacks not only verisimilitude to our flawed reality, but also basic narrative conflict. If all Kittens have been given mittens and all boo-boos have been kissed, then a writer ten years down the road is very limited in the stories he can tell. It may seem like a very small autistic thing to complain about Chewie being given a medal, but it shows where Disney's new priorities are. Not creating new and interesting material to build off on, but instead to slash and burn the old and replace it with vast fields of nothing.

While in both old and Disney canons Chewbacca simply rejected the notion of medals due to his wookiee pride (which JJ clearly was not aware of, which makes Maz giving Chewie a medal he didn't want all the more confusing), you can clearly tell Leia is incredibly racist towards Wookiees in ANH. Constantly calling him a carpet or insulting him whenever possible for no real reason. Its a dash of realism that adds to the overall world building without taking away from the overall narrative of good vs evil and not being "in your face" about it like modern political baggage, and it shows that even the most kind hearted nobility of this galaxy aren't as perfect as they seem.

TL;DR Leia was casually bigoted towards Wookiees, Corellians and short people.

Also the whole medal scene at the end of Plan IX is made all the more moronic and pointless by the fact that Disney retconned it so Chewbacca was given a medal at the same time as Han and Luke in the Disney retellings of ANH.

 

[King Dead]

Going back and reading about the initial sequel trilogy treatment, the biggest tragedy remains that we didn't get not-Darth Talon on screen.

This gif is always relevant.

 

[Jaimas]

I think what's going to happen is that Disney is going to quietly start to close the book on the ST.

 

[Jub-Jub]

I was discussing this and somebody brought up a Metacritic controversy. The developers of a videogame, Fallout: New Vegas, would receive a bonus and royalties if the Metacritic score by critics was 85 or higher. For some reason, perhaps the company wanting to shaft people out of money, the score for Fallout: New Vegas was hardstuck at 84, despite being rated an 87 by audiences.
Somebody, somewhere, has a socioeconomic gain they either realize or want to keep others from realizing by keeping this Verified score above 85, but below 87 for some reason.

Interesting thunk. There was a floated rumor that Rian's trilogy depended on the reaction score (audience?) to ROS. I always thought it was dumb rumor as he has nothing to do with the newest installment. I'd say that it's JJ scamming a bigger percentage point gross bonus from the mouse before Rian getting a trilogy,

https://deadline.com/2019/12/star-w...isguise-post-christmas-box-office-1202817539/

Weekend officially down 59%, still not good but it will be much worse next weekend because unlike TLJ most people will be back at work. TLJ had a great release window too, two weekends before major holidays. This film cant rely on another holiday to boost its box office. Another drop of 60% or more expected.

r/boxoffice has been making fun of deadline's SW coverage as they've constantly been tying to spin anything as good news and have been overestimating daily returns by millions. Be interesting to see the third week as it won't have the holiday bump

Here's a comparison graph they made

 

[Cyril Sneer]

I thought its pretty obvious that she's going to join team dirt rhino. My only concern is that I hope they don't add too many human characters to his clan and turn this into Rogue One 2.0. Either rebuild IG-11 or make a new droid and bring in some aliens instead. 3 humans is enough.

We'll see, I guess. It does seem as though The Mandalorian is going to be following The Clone Wars's lead by making the Mandos at least 99.9% humans, but if that Gamorrean maquette that Favreau recently showed off is anything to go by, we'll also be seeing plenty of supporting alien characters in the series (plus IG-11 and Zero appear to be very popular with viewers as well). I hope Xi'an and the gang show up again soon, too.

The thing about Disney "fixing" the "mistake" of Chewbacca not getting a medal, and the slowly creeping (but thankfully not quite yet to the surface) desire to give Droids equal status as lifeforms is that those elements are part of what made Star Wars an interesting setting. It was flawed. There was racism against droids and aliens. Even a good hearted hero like Luke Skywalker just kind of rolls his eyes at the droids as they attempt to explain their plight in ANH. Their status was equivalent to slaves in the Roman Empire, and that was that. There was no escape for them from that position on the social hierarchy. It was unfair and you sympathize with the droids for that reason, but then the SJWs come swooping in trying to "fix" things that Lucas "did wrong". And what do you end up with? A setting that lacks not only verisimilitude to our flawed reality, but also basic narrative conflict. If all Kittens have been given mittens and all boo-boos have been kissed, then a writer ten years down the road is very limited in the stories he can tell. It may seem like a very small autistic thing to complain about Chewie being given a medal, but it shows where Disney's new priorities are. Not creating new and interesting material to build off on, but instead to slash and burn the old and replace it with vast fields of nothing.

Exactly.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Did you adjust it to inflation? This makes TFA 541.73M$

 

[Neet Tokusatsu]

So what are the odds that Cara eventually ends up becoming a Mandalorian herself? She enjoys and is good at fighting, and doesn't seem to have any family or friends beyond Mando himself (not even a homeworld). Having her inducted into the clan would also allow the showrunners to do some more world-building by showing whatever ceremony accompanies that sort of adoption.

If anything, adding Cara as a regular character or even as part of Mando's clan should be enough to please the suits at Disney who sooner or later will demand a "strong and independent wahmen" in the show, and since she has an established background, is a good character and a competent warrior, i wouldn't mind seeing her return

I thought its pretty obvious that she's going to join team dirt rhino. My only concern is that I hope they don't add too many human characters to his clan and turn this into Rogue One 2.0 for the sake of virtue signalling again. Either rebuild IG-11 or make a new droid and bring in some aliens instead. 2-3 humans is enough.

As much as i would love to see IG-11 again, i find kind of hard to believe he can be rebuild after that, however, i agree with you, S2 will need a new droid as a crew member, not only it would add some real diversity, i mean FFS a fantasy setting full of aliens and droids where only humans get the spotlight gets kind of dull after a while, but it also would make Mando have some character development, like Cara said before "you have a real thing for droids" we saw in EP8 how Mando finally was starting to see IG-11 as a friend and ally, a droid as part of the clan probably could make him finally leave his hatred for droids behind and realize that not all of then are just mindless killing machines

 

[HumanHive]

I think what's going to happen is that Disney is going to quietly start to close the book on the ST.

I think they were until the Mandalorian proved to be a hit. That's Star Wars now, and thank God for it. Smaller stories, smaller stakes, and the Force being treated as an unknown and mystical ability instead of a superpower that lets you do anything.