Containment Official Decision Regarding Gender and Chris/Gender Discussion Megathread

[Apteryx Owenii]

That's just not true.

"Now, among the better things you should definitely try before despising, is some of the hobbies of those of your own—opposite gender. Like, uh, for example, if you are a young gentleman, I recommend buying yourself a My Little Pony figure of your favorite color or whatever. Now, uh, stroking the hair of said pony is very relaxing and therapeutic, and also rubbing it against your cheek. That's... nice. And also, uh, you can pretend that, uh, the pony is, uh, that girl you want to take you wanna take out to—you wanna take out sometime, and talk to the pony like you would talk to the girl... But any—in any case, uh, while few people may ridicule you, you should not worry about it, because most everybody will be o—totally okay with it, because it won't matter."

If you can't see the repressed tomgirl there I don't know what to tell you

 

[troon patrol]

If you can't see the repressed tomgirl there I don't know what to tell you

I gotta agree here even classic Chris, To quote Hank Hill; "that boy ain't right". The sailor moon poster to "keep me strait" and how much vocally Chris hated gay men. He was overcompensating for something, maybe just being a troon? I have the feeling Sockness is eventually gonna get to Chris someway somehow, and if chris catches, their will be tears.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

I gotta agree here even classic Chris, To quote Hank Hill; "that boy ain't right". The sailor moon poster to "keep me strait" and how much vocally Chris hated gay men. He was overcompensating for something, maybe just being a troon? I have the feeling Sockness is eventually gonna get to Chris someway somehow, and if chris catches, their will be tears.

It's not difficult for life to fuck with someone who has difficulty with nuance. Starting at certain ages, men and boys begin to understand that not all men are the same and that the role of a macho man is just as unrealistic as every woman growing up to look and act like Marylin Monroe. A lot of people with autism, especially Chris, don't understand this. The only real problem with gender that Chris has is that he should have never been allowed to be around or compare himself to normal people. If Chris had been born to a younger couple, this would have been a non issue because they would be more likely to get him the help he needed, and they would have put the kaibosh on shit he was exposed to like anime, TV, Internet, and normal people. I can't believe after everything we've learned in the past few years about autistics jumping on the bandwagon, that you guys are still dissecting the ramblings of a male autistic as something more than just autism.

 

[A Grey Cat]

I feel the gender argument has shifted dynamically over the last few years. His mental stability is unquestionably wavering and, most importantly, he's not JUST a woman, but a CPU goddess who grows vaginas.

I know a few transsexuals and I'm happy to refer to them by the opposite gender. But in Chris's case, the root of his decision is steeped in mental disability, attention seeking and a severe need for the very best psychologist available. Agreeing to one thing he says is basically confirmation for him to say the next crazy statement.

I mean the few times I watched Blaire white videos I legit thought she was a woman and I'll honor her pronouns cause a few things that can't be altered without bordering on mutilation aside Blaire looks almost like a born woman....Chris on the other hand is a sideshow freak who can't dress, look or act anything like a woman and doesn't deserve to be called one because it only enforces his ever deteriorating sanity....that and I just love watching the Piggy squeal when someone calls him dude or bro

 

[DoodleBerry]

Why is such a thing? Let Chris fucking identify as whatever he/she wants. The end game is to chronicle Chris, yes or no?

I tried to like/agree with this, but while I am signed in, I cannot react to your post. So I agree.

 

[troon patrol]

It's not difficult for life to fuck with someone who has difficulty with nuance. Starting at certain ages, men and boys begin to understand that not all men are the same and that the role of a macho man is just as unrealistic as every woman growing up to look and act like Marylin Monroe. A lot of people with autism, especially Chris, don't understand this. The only real problem with gender that Chris has is that he should have never been allowed to be around or compare himself to normal people. If Chris had been born to a younger couple, this would have been a non issue because they would be more likely to get him the help he needed, and they would have put the kaibosh on shit he was exposed to like anime, TV, Internet, and normal people. I can't believe after everything we've learned in the past few years about autistics jumping on the bandwagon, that you guys are still dissecting the ramblings of a male autistic as something more than just autism.

IDK... chris was well documented as a crybaby even by those sympathetic to him early on. I think even chris could see this, he's been playing the victim card preety fucking hard since day 1. I really don't think you are going to find anyone here who thinks chris not being in special school/program was a good thing, maybe sockness has an account? That topic has been done to death and the fact that Bob was a shit dad and Barb is a shit human being is not up for debate anymore. (I just recently read how much Barb's family didn't like her for trying to steal a family members husband or something? apparently the aunt Corina was the only family member that could tolerate her?) Chris starts jumping into this fantasy world and like a lot of autistics he makes up rules and "rituals" for social interaction that are not there because you are absolutely right, we are all autistically dissecting a autists actions, at least half the farms.

Maybe this next part deserves its own thread but we are all here bordering on, if not obsessively discussing a manchild that will never directly effect our lives at all, not like a senator or congress or elected official, I can only speak for myself but abnormal psychology fascinates me, I study it as a hobby; serial killers, successful organized crime figures and stunted manchildren like chris, in other words. Don't take the forums too seriously, this should be a hobby not a daily requirement for anyone, well maybe Josh in a wierd autistic jesus, died-for-our-tism kind of "thing". A break every now and then is not a bad thing and Merry Christmas/happy hanukah/happy new year, whatever is personally applicable.

 

[Alex Krycek]

It's not difficult for life to fuck with someone who has difficulty with nuance. Starting at certain ages, men and boys begin to understand that not all men are the same and that the role of a macho man is just as unrealistic as every woman growing up to look and act like Marylin Monroe. A lot of people with autism, especially Chris, don't understand this. The only real problem with gender that Chris has is that he should have never been allowed to be around or compare himself to normal people. If Chris had been born to a younger couple, this would have been a non issue because they would be more likely to get him the help he needed, and they would have put the kaibosh on shit he was exposed to like anime, TV, Internet, and normal people. I can't believe after everything we've learned in the past few years about autistics jumping on the bandwagon, that you guys are still dissecting the ramblings of a male autistic as something more than just autism.

It’s fun to think about things and over analyze things.

I’m here because I have a fucked up sense of humor. I’m not beating around any bush or pulling any punches that’s it. Sure I feel bad for Chris sometimes, but he also does dumb shit and I laugh at it. Does that mean I hate him? No not at all. He’s just dumb and easily provoked and for years we see that remain a constant truth.

 

[DoodleBerry]

IDK... chris was well documented as a crybaby even by those sympathetic to him early on. I think even chris could see this, he's been playing the victim card preety fucking hard since day 1. I really don't think you are going to find anyone here who thinks chris not being in special school/program was a good thing, maybe sockness has an account? That topic has been done to death and the fact that Bob was a shit dad and Barb is a shit human being is not up for debate anymore. (I just recently read how much Barb's family didn't like her for trying to steal a family members husband or something? apparently the aunt Corina was the only family member that could tolerate her?) Chris starts jumping into this fantasy world and like a lot of autistics he makes up rules and "rituals" for social interaction that are not there because you are absolutely right, we are all autistically dissecting a autists actions, at least half the farms.

Maybe this next part deserves its own thread but we are all here bordering on, if not obsessively discussing a manchild that will never directly effect our lives at all, not like a senator or congress or elected official, I can only speak for myself but abnormal psychology fascinates me, I study it as a hobby; serial killers, successful organized crime figures and stunted manchildren like chris, in other words. Don't take the forums too seriously, this should be a hobby not a daily requirement for anyone, well maybe Josh in a wierd autistic jesus, died-for-our-tism kind of "thing". A break every now and then is not a bad thing and Merry Christmas/happy hanukah/happy new year, whatever is personally applicable.

WTF, my eyes glazed over past the first paragraph

 

[Shovel Mech Pilot]

The incel to trans pipeline is real. Basically incels believe that it's so easy for women to have relationships and sex, while for them it is impossible. So they think that if they become a woman they could escape inceldom. Chris-Tran fits this perfectly.

 

[Based Papa John]

The incel to trans pipeline is real. Basically incels believe that it's so easy for women to have relationships and sex, while for them it is impossible. So they think that if they become a woman they could escape inceldom. Chris-Tran fits this perfectly.

There really is something to the "Becoming the GF" meme.

 

[Rupin]

The incel to trans pipeline is real. Basically incels believe that it's so easy for women to have relationships and sex, while for them it is impossible. So they think that if they become a woman they could escape inceldom. Chris-Tran fits this perfectly.

Yeah but for all that the incel might as well come out as a fag. It costs way less to do so and either way the incel is going to be attracting dudes instead of women.

 

[WorldsSmartestManRonOTool]

One time somebody on here made a post where they both referred to him as "Christine" and "he", and for some reason that struck me as hilarious. But then I thought about it, and it's accurate, "Christine" is his legal name, and he is still a JERK and not remotely female.

I've never seen him as being legit trans, he is effeminate and lazy, he has a 1950's idea of male/female roles, and would prefer his fantasy of the housewife lifestyle to being any sort of traditional adult male breadwinner/provider. I don't buy that he is trans. I think it boils down to he is lazy and likes attention and being perceived as special, and that is his idea of what being a woman is. A man should go to work to support him, while he goes shopping and folds napkins or whatever.

 

[The American Hedgehog]

I've never seen him as being legit trans, he is effeminate and lazy, he has a 1950's idea of male/female roles, and would prefer his fantasy of the housewife lifestyle to being any sort of traditional adult male breadwinner/provider. I don't buy that he is trans. I think it boils down to he is lazy and likes attention and being perceived as special, and that is his idea of what being a woman is. A man should go to work to support him, while he goes shopping and folds napkins or whatever.

Transgenderism is defined in an open-ended way, just having a gender identity that's different from the biological one. By definition, even an identity based on a fantasy of a housewife lifestyle that's rooted in antiquated views counts as transgender.

 

[Cardboard Box Mountain]

Transgenderism is defined in an open-ended way, just having a gender identity that's different from the biological one. By definition, even an identity based on a fantasy of a housewife lifestyle that's rooted in antiquated views counts as transgender.

I cannot agree with the last sentence. Nonconforming, maybe. But these fifties lifestyle women definitely identify themselves as female even if current year norms are not palatable to them. I understand transgender to mean that you mentally do not resonate with your biological sex.

 

[The American Hedgehog]

I cannot agree with the last sentence. Nonconforming, maybe. But these fifties lifestyle women definitely identify themselves as female even if current year norms are not palatable to them.

Definitely, yeah. But what I meant with "an identity based on a fantasy of a housewife lifestyle" was to refer to Chris's identity.

Biological men identifying as transgender don't really know what it's like to be a woman or vice versa, they base their identity on an idealized concept of the other gender. It fits with what Chris is doing.

 

[Vivica A. Fox]

Yeah but for all that the incel might as well come out as a fag. It costs way less to do so and either way the incel is going to be attracting dudes instead of women.

Enter the most common form of trans woman: the transbian. Incels can’t change their sexual orientation so they hope that some woke af cis lesbian will have sex with their lady penis. Fits Chris to a t, imo. He just didn’t anticipate that the hormones would kill his sex drive. otherwise, it was a “perfect plan” to get China.

 

[troon patrol]

Yeah but for all that the incel might as well come out as a fag. It costs way less to do so and either way the incel is going to be attracting dudes instead of women.

I really doubt anyone has done a study on this but before mental illness known as transgenderism became the "fad" it has become there was a lot of that 20 years ago and the same ideology has been practiced in incarceration well documented and even very overlooked/accepted by social circles that looked down on sodomy/homosexual relationships as in prison there isn't anything better unless you have conjugal visitation. Something I personally find fascinating, The Italian American organized crime establishment better known as "la cosa nostra" was/is heavily rooted in roman catholic values (which obviously included a strong view against homosexuality) yet, if someone had a long sentence like 10 years typically, sodomy was forgiven while rumors of an associate or higher ranking member was an homosexual out in the free world, would prevent them from being promoted/respected regardless of them being a good "earner" other admirable attributes.

I've never seen him as being legit trans,

That phrase itself is an oxy-moron, it doesn't exist by my definition, or the definition people I would consider mentally ill. Troons made up the rule anyone who declares themselves a troon is a troon and to question someone being a true and honest troon is "wrong-think". My opinion as I said previously its all mental ilnness with the exception 0.07–0.05% of the population who are not transgendered but, I concede should be discussed in a case by case manner, I have empathy and leeway for those people as its a physical abnormality, not a mental defect. 0.07% possible is the MAX, not half of the tumblr userbase or half MLP fanbase, those are just mentally ill sexually confused incels/exceptional people to weak to form their own independent world views.

 

[UnKillFill]

I know a few transsexuals and I'm happy to refer to them by the opposite gender. But in Chris's case, the root of his decision is steeped in mental disability, attention seeking and a severe need for the very best psychologist available.

So he's just like most trannys then?

 

[Based Papa John]

That phrase itself is an oxy-moron, it doesn't exist by my definition, or the definition people I would consider mentally ill. Troons made up the rule anyone who declares themselves a troon is a troon and to question someone being a true and honest troon is "wrong-think". My opinion as I said previously its all mental ilnness with the exception 0.07–0.05% of the population who are not transgendered but, I concede should be discussed in a case by case manner, I have empathy and leeway for those people as its a physical abnormality, not a mental defect. 0.07% possible is the MAX, not half of the tumblr userbase or half MLP fanbase, those are just mentally ill sexually confused incels/exceptional people to weak to form their own independent world views.

Transgenderism goes hand-in-hand with mental illness. I believe studies show that the vast majority of transgender individuals suffer from some other disorder, be it depression, dissociative personality, schizophrenia, what have you. An acquaintance of mine who is a MtF admitted to me that he suffers from a particularly nasty form of depression. Given his behavior prior to coming out, that wouldn't surprise me.

Now, as for Chris being "fake-trans," that's a more complicated question. Yes, he's "fake-trans" in that he's obviously doing this for attention. No, he's not "fake-trans" in the sense of all transgender people are "fake" in their delusion of being the opposite gender.

 

[troon patrol]

Transgenderism goes hand-in-hand with mental illness. I believe studies show that the vast majority of transgender individuals suffer from some other disorder, be it depression, dissociative personality, schizophrenia, what have you. An acquaintance of mine who is a MtF admitted to me that he suffers from a particularly nasty form of depression. Given his behavior prior to coming out, that wouldn't surprise me.

I strongly agree.

Now, as for Chris being "fake-trans," that's a more complicated question. Yes, he's "fake-trans" in that he's obviously doing this for attention. No, he's not "fake-trans" in the sense of all transgender people are "fake" in their delusion of being the opposite gender.

Here's the caveat to the "fake and real trans statements", I politely ask you draw a line in the sand for me between "real" and "fake". I've yet to really see anyone explain the science and define that for me. Now if you were to say chris is transgender for the wrong reasons, for self serving sexual/narcissistic reasons ie "doing it for the attention", as opposed to attempting to identify with his true self I would agree with you but, I'm still describing about half/more than half the troons in existance, doing it for the attention .Not to mention the LGBT mafia who currently make the "rules" on this consider this conversation questioning ones level commitment to being trans wrong think and bigoted. This why I'm quite comfortable calling it all but the rarest exceptions mental illness, its beyond debate. The same way a cult or a diety is beyod question, you either beleive or you don't and I don't.