Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[Foxcube]

M00nrac00n seemed like a bit of a nutjub who hung out on tumblr for too long. I'm glad they are gone. I hope Orange is able to clean things up. Thanks for this awesome write up KFS I was trying to follow along on the reddit and was getting so lost.

Not sure if anyone is interested in a Falum update? Her story is starting to make less sense. When we left off she was living in a hotel (which it came out later was paid for by the shelter, so why did she need money for the hotel?) and had carers twice a day and was sitting in her own shit. WELL not no more! She's booking for a psych hold (again)
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I'm 100% convinced she's trying to get a permanent psych hold and be admitted to a psych hospital long term at this point. So that she doesn't need to try and be a grown up and get money and so she can bitch about it on twitter.

Shilling her ugly ass paintings again
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Weirdly enough? She's still posted NONE of this on facebook
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For needing to maybe go to the ICU? She tweeted crazy amount of times last night. And more shit talk!
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She suddenly also claims MS which none of us have ever seen her claim
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Still none of this on facebook. Which is where she gets a LOT of her donations from. Notice on the facebook post someone asked her 'Are you still in the hospital?' lol wondering if she'll answer them

Lol did she say absence (petite mal) seizures will be what kills her. Out of all the seizure types that one is the least concerning.

 

[Apathy is my superpower]

I can't find anyone mourning cherie on instagram or facebook after a half-assed lurk on both

Maybe miss cherie got herself a psych hold.

Yeah, that's what I was hoping. On her IG page I found this comment:



That comment was 1 week ago, would be plausible if Cherie was in a psych ward (and therefore cannot use her phone).

 

[LahLahBlackSheep]

Lol did she say absence (petite mal) seizures will be what kills her. Out of all the seizure types that one is the least concerning.

No no! The MS she doesn't have is gonna kill her. lmao

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MuH tRaUmA. I hate you. Keep in touch~! You're all cowards! [deletes account]

Man I love poking someone into a full on chimp out.

Ok that explains a LOT about Moon. I am curious about that comment though. I thought Orange started the server? Because Moons passive aggressive sperge makes it sound like she was behind everything.

I appreciate all this though! I love following drama in real time but a good old write up always lets me know what I missed lol

That comment was 1 week ago, would be plausible if Cherie was in a psych ward (and therefore cannot use her phone).

A psych ward would explain everything. The radio silence and lack of mourning going on.

 

[Apathy is my superpower]

I have some time to kill so I looked into the creator of #BelieveSpoonies:



I tried to search for her here, but couldn't find any mention of her.

Just had a quick look at her profile. Don't know if she's faking too, but something pings my BS-radar:

These posts are screaming "FAKER" to me, but she doesn't post horrible "I am dying"-selfies

And then the typical # wall of doom:

It's never Lupus.

 

[Fuck you and your asspats]

I wish I could sad react, I really liked her. Maybe Kelly killed her so she can remain the most gross skin picker on Instagram

Kelly will always be the grossest to me. That disgusting pile of rotting lower half that she calls her legs. No one outdisgusts Kelly.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Ok that explains a LOT about Moon. I am curious about that comment though. I thought Orange started the server? Because Moons passive aggressive sperge makes it sound like she was behind everything.

I appreciate all this though! I love following drama in real time but a good old write up always lets me know what I missed lol
going on.

OQ started it because she got interested in PK, specifically, because she was more of a grifter/malingerer than a munchie. She wanted a sub that could discuss that angle and other people like Belle Guiness who profit off their illnesses instead of just endlessly nit picking every pic the same three people posted. It evolved into the free-for-all we see now over time as more and more people bailed from IF.

M00n joined after IF deleted her AMA about living with PK and took down several other posts about Peeks. Several people pointed this out in comments last night but m00n had already DFEd. She's just got a victim complex and no one's falling for it anymore.

 

[Chronicshillcow2ElectricB]

Slice of Lyme Says Goodbye

It’s time for us to say goodbye and spend more time focusing on our little family. We thank everyone so much for doing life with us and supporting us over th...

youtu.be

Spoiler: Summary

In summary chronic lyme vloger likely suffering from mental health issues, Graves’ disease, minor gallbladder issues, and endometriosis.
She moved in with a quak friend, and that’s made her less “sick”.
She using a shit ton of doterra crap, the AMP coil for detoxification, is doing the bob beck protocol, a bio runner, a magnetic pluser, sauna, ionic foot bath, suplerments for her Graves’ disease, MCAS, “parasites”, pickle juice for her heart because it acts “funny“.She’s grain free, dairy free, and sugar free for her bone pain.

After watching that I need to detox my brain.

 

[medicaidmunch]

I know Dani (bendwithitrockwithit) doesn’t get talked about much on here since she deleted her whole chronic Lyme history and keeps her munching on the down low but she had a spinal fusion on Monday with the butcher in Maryland and, of course, she’s having complications. I can’t say I feel bad for her. Guess it’s not as fun as the other sickstagramers made it seem.

 

[Punkinsplice]

I know Dani (bendwithitrockwithit) doesn’t get talked about much on here since she deleted her whole chronic Lyme history and keeps her munching on the down low but she had a spinal fusion on Monday with the butcher in Maryland and, of course, she’s having complications. I can’t say I feel bad for her. Guess it’s not as fun as the other sickstagramers made it seem.

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"Weekend state ", huh? Is this one trying to get a toob? Note she uses the word "nutrition" instead of food. Not a munchie expert, but most people i know say "food" when they mean food. Most people who are in terrible pain are not really interested in food, either. I dunno. Anyway, what happened to her facial skin? Did she get that looked at yet?

 

[JackDonaghysSecretLover]

She wanted to out PK for being a terrible person, which I get. Peeks is an ass, everyone was dogpiling on her because it was someone new to talk about on IF for the first time in months, and m00n wanted to spill the tea and bathe herself in revenge. But that's all she wanted. She didn't care about anyone or anything else we talked about, I doubt she read any threads except the ones about PK, and when it stopped being all about PK (and how brave and strong m00n was for all the shit PK put her through) she was not happy. A bunch of us felt her obsession was super cringe when there were much more interesting people doing much more interesting things, but didn't say anything. We all have our pet cows see also: my endless obsession with Skinwalker.

she kept asking me to join some group about people who know PK irl even though I explained multiple times I only know her tangentially. It was very odd and annoying. Not surprised she went off the deep end.

 

[Cold Waffle]

Our TPN gainer posted this picture. The schoolgirl pose and socks are one thing. For one, I'm disappointed that she's not committing to wearing some zebra compression socks. The caption is where the real magic happens, though.

She brought the big guns with this New Year's soliloquy, featuring references to full time jobs she's never had and telling herself that "[her] shifts and shapes itself just as rapidly as [her] body" does. Which means that her soul is swelling uncontrollably. Might want to get that checked out. But the best part is the opening, when she coins some purple brown prose: "Like the air after a sewer overflows" [...] "You should have entered 2019 with a hazmat suit."

 

[elliptical narcissist]

Has she ever worn pants? I don't think I've ever seen anyone with such an aversion to pants.

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

"Weekend state ", huh? Is this one trying to get a toob? Note she uses the word "nutrition" instead of food. Not a munchie expert, but most people i know say "food" when they mean food. Most people who are in terrible pain are not really interested in food, either. I dunno. Anyway, what happened to her facial skin? Did she get that looked at yet?

I think it's just acne from her terrible diet of candy and sugary drinks. Iirc she smokes too so that ruins your skin too.

 

[SevenEightNine]

Our TPN gainer posted this picture. The schoolgirl pose and socks are one thing. For one, I'm disappointed that she's not committing to wearing some zebra compression socks. The caption is where the real magic happens, though.
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She brought the big guns with this New Year's soliloquy, featuring references to full time jobs she's never had and telling herself that "[her] shifts and shapes itself just as rapidly as [her] body" does. Which means that her soul is swelling uncontrollably. Might want to get that checked out. But the best part is the opening, when she coins some purple brown prose: "Like the air after a sewer overflows" [...] "You should have entered 2019 with a hazmat suit."

Did anyone else read this as if it were a Mad Libs type template? The sentence construction seems ok, like, this has the general SHAPE of a decent piece of writing, but then the content...

"I need a simile! That's a comparison using like or as...hmm....the air after a sewer back up? That sounds clumsy, I'll use a call back later to show how it's totally the perfect comparison. "

I really hate how many of these sickies pretend to be role models for disability. You know who I would have KILLED to have seen when I was busy trying desperately to hide (medically necessary, badly designed) braces and (really ugly, not something I chased down or did to myself) scars? Fuckin' Big Boss in MGS V. Or the Witcher. Badass scars. Or that girl who sport climbs missing a hand. Sickbed princess was really the opposite of what I wanted to be.

Are there any updates on mysteryElles? She must be getting low on the post surgical drugs and starting up physio. Health crisis imminent. It's hard work to recover properly from significant Ortho surgery. She, like so many of the favourites, really seems to have an aversion to that type of thing.

 

[thirsttrap12345]

I know Dani (bendwithitrockwithit) doesn’t get talked about much on here since she deleted her whole chronic Lyme history and keeps her munching on the down low but she had a spinal fusion on Monday with the butcher in Maryland and, of course, she’s having complications. I can’t say I feel bad for her. Guess it’s not as fun as the other sickstagramers made it seem.

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It’s common knowledge at this point that the hospital Butcher Henderson does his surgeries at is SHIT for nursing and pain control (gee I’m so shocked by this- why in the world wouldn’t one of the many academically renowned medical institutions in the DC area want him operating there?) To the point where patients get Henderson’s cell phone number to call and cry and complain about how they’re being denied pain meds. As someone who has never had surgery with him but know several who have, he is a major sweet talker and will convince you that you will have the world after surgery when it comes to pain meds and being kept comfortable. Then bam, you’re awake and he’s gone and the staff knows these are a bunch of cash paying patients who expect to be pampered like a 5 star hotel.

Why people keep flocking to him (and how they pay for it) is beyond me. WTF do Dani’s parents do to afford her former Lyme treatments in fucking GERMANY and now a $100k surgery in Maryland? (Just guessing no idea how much this costs but gotta throw in lodging and travel too.)

 

[Fattyroad]

Have the cheap plastic Beads of Courage knockoffs gone out of fashion? No one seems to have them anymore.

 

[Munchie_Minder]

I know Dani (bendwithitrockwithit) doesn’t get talked about much on here since she deleted her whole chronic Lyme history and keeps her munching on the down low but she had a spinal fusion on Monday with the butcher in Maryland and, of course, she’s having complications. I can’t say I feel bad for her. Guess it’s not as fun as the other sickstagramers made it seem.

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All these munchies getting spinal fusions make me laugh. Going to try not to powerlevel too much but I’ve been around a lot of people who’ve had spinal fusions, most who also have codiagnosis of EDS, either Hypermobile or kyphoscolitic type. The resounding research and beliefs of 99.99% of physicians says you do NOT put anyone under for a fusion unless they have demostratable neurological deficit, absent or hypereflexia of reflexes, or radiological spondylolisthesis (slipping or dislocation of vertebra). Basically, if you are doing a fusion for any reason other than to prevent progression of neurological deficit or nerve impingement, your patient is likely to be so shocked by the pain from fusion that the result is going to suck.

Spinal fusion doesn’t help 95% of musculoskeletal pain. The only time it would be possible to reduce MS type pain would be if a patient has a demonstrated spondylolisthesis that is causing intense muscle pain and spasm from the muscles overworking to stabilize the spine. The only catch is that, in EDS patients, they may need upright or flexion/extension MRI to demonstrate spondylolisthesis, as the joint may realign on supine MRI.

All these munchies who are faking symptoms and pain are getting a rude wake up call that spinal fusion is one good way to actually develop pain and neurological issues, that likely won’t be helped with narcotics. The doctor doing this surgery without demonstrating neurological involvement may one day be involved in a huge lawsuit, IMO. They may have retired to the Virgin Islands with millions by then.

Basically, if you are having terrible nerve pain or reduced function, spinal fusion isn’t going to affect you much. Yes, post op pain is bad for a day or two but overall, you’ll be feeling much better with reduction of nerve pain so recovery is easy. Contrarily, have surgery when you had little to no pain prior, and you’re going to wish you died.

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It’s common knowledge at this point that the hospital Butcher Henderson does his surgeries at is SHIT for nursing and pain control (gee I’m so shocked by this- why in the world wouldn’t one of the many academically renowned medical institutions in the DC area want him operating there?) To the point where patients get Henderson’s cell phone number to call and cry and complain about how they’re being denied pain meds. As someone who has never had surgery with him but know several who have, he is a major sweet talker and will convince you that you will have the world after surgery when it comes to pain meds and being kept comfortable. Then bam, you’re awake and he’s gone and the staff knows these are a bunch of cash paying patients who expect to be pampered like a 5 star hotel.

Why people keep flocking to him (and how they pay for it) is beyond me. WTF do Dani’s parents do to afford her former Lyme treatments in fucking GERMANY and now a $100k surgery in Maryland? (Just guessing no idea how much this costs but gotta throw in lodging and travel too.)

Munchies flock to Dr Henderson because he’s one of the few that will operate on them without radiographic and reflexic evidence they need surgery. People who don’t know any better are flocking to him because he has marketed himself to people with EDS as this God of surgery that will fix everything from your Chiari that’s causing daily headaches to spinal instability that’s causing POTS. Keep in mind we still have zero research that demonstrates the actual cause of POTS. But, this guy goes to all the EDS conferences, puts out all these videos, has his own “special” MRI method of determining spinal instability and whether there is nerve compression, and promises to cure all these symptoms in a population of people who are tired and hurt all the time. Of course they want to feel better.

 

[thirsttrap12345]

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Munchies flock to Dr Henderson because he’s one of the few that will operate on them without radiographic and reflexic evidence they need surgery. People who don’t know any better are flocking to him because he has marketed himself to people with EDS as this God of surgery that will fix everything from your Chiari that’s causing daily headaches to spinal instability that’s causing POTS. Keep in mind we still have zero research that demonstrates the actual cause of POTS. But, this guy goes to all the EDS conferences, puts out all these videos, has his own “special” MRI method of determining spinal instability and whether there is nerve compression, and promises to cure all these symptoms in a population of people who are tired and hurt all the time. Of course they want to feel better.

I know we all joked that Jaquie’s doctor was Quack Money Bags but I think Henderson May have him beat. The guy is making money hand over fist.

 

[Pho Real]

All these munchies getting spinal fusions make me laugh. Going to try not to powerlevel too much but I’ve been around a lot of people who’ve had spinal fusions, most who also have codiagnosis of EDS, either Hypermobile or kyphoscolitic type. The resounding research and beliefs of 99.99% of physicians says you do NOT put anyone under for a fusion unless they have demostratable neurological deficit, absent or hypereflexia of reflexes, or radiological spondylolisthesis (slipping or dislocation of vertebra). Basically, if you are doing a fusion for any reason other than to prevent progression of neurological deficit or nerve impingement, your patient is likely to be so shocked by the pain from fusion that the result is going to suck.

Spinal fusion doesn’t help 95% of musculoskeletal pain. The only time it would be possible to reduce MS type pain would be if a patient has a demonstrated spondylolisthesis that is causing intense muscle pain and spasm from the muscles overworking to stabilize the spine. The only catch is that, in EDS patients, they may need upright or flexion/extension MRI to demonstrate spondylolisthesis, as the joint may realign on supine MRI.

All these munchies who are faking symptoms and pain are getting a rude wake up call that spinal fusion is one good way to actually develop pain and neurological issues, that likely won’t be helped with narcotics. The doctor doing this surgery without demonstrating neurological involvement may one day be involved in a huge lawsuit, IMO. They may have retired to the Virgin Islands with millions by then.

Basically, if you are having terrible nerve pain or reduced function, spinal fusion isn’t going to affect you much. Yes, post op pain is bad for a day or two but overall, you’ll be feeling much better with reduction of nerve pain so recovery is easy. Contrarily, have surgery when you had little to no pain prior, and you’re going to wish you died.

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Munchies flock to Dr Henderson because he’s one of the few that will operate on them without radiographic and reflexic evidence they need surgery. People who don’t know any better are flocking to him because he has marketed himself to people with EDS as this God of surgery that will fix everything from your Chiari that’s causing daily headaches to spinal instability that’s causing POTS. Keep in mind we still have zero research that demonstrates the actual cause of POTS. But, this guy goes to all the EDS conferences, puts out all these videos, has his own “special” MRI method of determining spinal instability and whether there is nerve compression, and promises to cure all these symptoms in a population of people who are tired and hurt all the time. Of course they want to feel better.

Not to mention that surgery in general is not recommended for EDS patients, except in emergency situations (like the patient will die without surgery). Slow or unsuccessful healing, sutures ripping out, and joints generally not responding. No legitimate EDS specialist suggests spinal fusion for joint laxity either. The best and most effective treatment is physical therapy, but munchies don’t want to do something that tedious (and that would actually help if they had real EDS not just faking it) and that comes with no pain meds or braces or potential complications.

It’s not about getting better, it’s about getting asspats.

 

[medicaidmunch]

Are there any updates on mysteryElles? She must be getting low on the post surgical drugs and starting up physio. Health crisis imminent. It's hard work to recover properly from significant Ortho surgery. She, like so many of the favourites, really seems to have an aversion to that type of thing.

Funny you say that because she has a pain management appointment tomorrow and of course yesterday was a horrible day for her and she had to hibernate. Now she’s having issues talking which I’m sure her family is happy about.

Does anyone know why this weirdo calls her parents by their first names?

Not to mention that surgery in general is not recommended for EDS patients, except in emergency situations (like the patient will die without surgery). Slow or unsuccessful healing, sutures ripping out, and joints generally not responding. No legitimate EDS specialist suggests spinal fusion for joint laxity either. The best and most effective treatment is physical therapy, but munchies don’t want to do something that tedious (and that would actually help if they had real EDS not just faking it) and that comes with no pain meds or braces or potential complications.

It’s not about getting better, it’s about getting asspats.

Don’t forget that Henderson thrives on complications and having patients come back for repeat surgeries. I have not seen one munchie get their neck sliced open with him who has not had at least one more surgery and yet they still call the surgeries successful