War Iran-United States Military Crisis of 2020 - US Baghdad embassy under siege, rocket fire in US Baghdad green zone, Ukrainian Airlines flight 752 crash, and more!

January 10th:
Exclusive: Informants in Iraq, Syria helped U.S. kill Iran's Soleimani - sources (archive)(post)
Iraqi Shia cleric whose militia killed American troops says crisis is over following Iran strike and Trump speech (archive)(post)
Iraqi PM tells US to decide mechanism for troop withdrawal (archive)(post)
Mike Pence says Congress might 'compromise sources and methods' if fully briefed on the Soleimani strike (archive)(post)
Unidentified planes hit Iraqi militiamen in Syria, killing 8 (archive)(post)
Iraq: The Master Of Mayhem Meets A Missile (archive)(post)
Eliminating Qasem Soleimani was Donald Trump’s Middle East farewell letter (archive)(post)
Iran uses BULLDOZERS to clear debris from plane crash site while accusing US of ‘big lie’ that they shot it down (archive)(post)
Swiss Back Channel Helped Defuse U.S.-Iran Crisis (post)

January 11th:
UKRAINIAN AIRCRAFT WAS BROUGHT DOWN IN IRAN DUE TO 'HUMAN ERROR' (archive)(post)
Iran minister says 'human error' caused by 'US adventurism' led to deadly crash of Ukrainian jetliner (archive)(post)
Ukrainian aircraft was brought down in Iran due to 'human error' (archive)(post)
Trump, at Ohio rally, says Democrats would have leaked Soleimani attack plans (archive)(post)
The Atlantic's David Frum blames Trump for downing of plane in Iran, deaths of 176 (archive)(post)
Associated Press changes ‘shockingly bad’ headline about Soleimani, Ukrainian plane crash after backlash (archive)(post)
GOP Rep. Doug Collins apologizes for saying Democrats are 'in love with terrorists' (archive)(post)
Iran demands West 'show findings' as new video reveals aircraft was struck before fiery crash (archive)(post)
Warren town hall interrupted by angry protester accusing her of ‘siding with terrorists’ (archive)(post)
Trump administration announces new sanctions on Iran (archive)(post)
Prepare For the Worst From Iran Cyber Attacks, As DHS Issues Warning: Experts (archive)(post)
Trump tells Fox News' Laura Ingraham 'four embassies' were targeted in imminent threat from Iran (archive)(post)
Trump tweets support for Iranian protesters as they demand Khamenei quit (archive)(post)
Trump warns Iran against ‘another massacre’ as protests flare over downed jet (archive)(post)

January 12th:
Trump tweet in Farsi 'the most liked Persian tweet' in history of Twitter (archive)(post)
Iraq warned to keep US troops or risk financial blow-WSJ (archive)(post)
Iran arrests UK ambassador in what Britain calls ‘flagrant violation of international law’ (archive)(post)

January 13th:
Trump authorized Soleimani's killing 7 months ago, with conditions (archive)(post)

edit: This is a WIP. All links are posted in the order they appear in the thread, not in chronological order of their publication.


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Iraqi supporters of Iran-backed militia attack US Embassy
https://apnews.com/75228a8a607a44863b57021ac33264dc (http://archive.vn/ljm9Y)

By QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA12 minutes ago

BAGHDAD (AP) — Dozens of angry Iraqi Shiite militia supporters broke into the U.S. Embassy compound in Baghdad on Tuesday after smashing a main door and setting fire to a reception area, prompting tear gas and sounds of gunfire.

An Associated Press reporter at the scene saw flames rising from inside the compound and at least three U.S. soldiers on the roof of the main building inside embassy. It was not clear what caused the fire at the reception area near the parking lot of the compound. A man on a loudspeaker urged the mob not to enter the compound, saying: “The message was delivered.”

The embassy attack followed deadly U.S. airstrikes on Sunday that killed 25 fighters of the Iran-backed militia in Iraq, the Kataeb Hezbollah. The U.S. military said it was in retaliation for last week’s killing of an American contractor in a rocket attack on an Iraqi military base that it had blamed on the militia.

Dozens of protesters marched inside the compound after smashing the gate used by cars to enter the embassy. The protesters, many in militia uniform, stopped in a corridor after about 5 meters (16 feet), and were only about 200 meters away from the main building. Half a dozen U.S. soldiers were seen on the roof of the main building, their guns were pointed at the protesters.

Smoke from the tear gas rose in the area, and at least three of the protesters appeared to have difficulties breathing. It wasn’t immediately known whether the embassy staff had remained inside the main building.

The protesters hanged a poster on the wall: “America is an aggressor.”

Shouting “Down, Down USA,” the crowd tried to push inside the embassy grounds, hurling water and stones over its walls. They raised yellow militia flags and taunted the embassy’s security staff who remained behind the glass windows in the gates’ reception area. They sprayed graffiti on the wall and windows in red in support of the Kataeb Hezbollah militia: “Closed in the name of the resistance.”

Hundreds of angry protesters, some in militia uniforms, set up tents outside the embassy. As tempers rose, the mob set fire to three trailers used by security guards along the embassy wall.

No one was immediately reported hurt in the rampage and security staff had withdrawn to inside the embassy earlier, soon after protesters gathered outside.

The U.S. attack — the largest targeting an Iraqi state-sanctioned militia in recent years — and the subsequent calls by the militia for retaliation, represent a new escalation in the proxy war between the U.S. and Iran playing out in the Middle East.

Tuesday’s attempted embassy storming took place after mourners and supporters held funerals for the militia fighters killed in a Baghdad neighborhood, after which they marched on to the heavily fortified Green Zone and kept walking till they reached the sprawling U.S. Embassy there.

AP journalists then saw the crowd as they tried to scale the walls of the embassy, in what appeared to be an attempt to storm it, shouting “Down, down USA!” and “Death to America” and “Death to Israel.”

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Sunday’s strikes send the message that the U.S. will not tolerate actions by Iran that jeopardize American lives.

The Iranian-backed Iraqi militia had vowed Monday to retaliate for the U.S. military strikes. The attack and vows for revenge raised concerns of new attacks that could threaten American interests in the region.

The U.S. attack also outraged both the militias and the Iraqi government, which said it will reconsider its relationship with the U.S.-led coalition — the first time it has said it will do so since an agreement was struck to keep some U.S. troops in the country. It called the attack a “flagrant violation” of its sovereignty.

In a partly televised meeting Monday, Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi told Cabinet members that he had tried to stop the U.S. operation “but there was insistence” from American officials.

The U.S. military said “precision defensive strikes” were conducted against five sites of Kataeb Hezbollah, or Hezbollah Brigades in Iraq and Syria. The group, which is a separate force from the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah, operates under the umbrella of the state-sanctioned militias known collectively as the Popular Mobilization Forces. Many of them are supported by Iran.









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Iran is quite capable of targetting America's allies, leadership and assets in turn. It has far more affiliated boots on the ground across the middle east. Just a few hours ago the Us resorted to bombing the Yazidis, a group almost genocided by isis, just because it is part of the PMU. This is set up for strategic failure because to 'win' you need to bring the regional population to ones side. As things stand the vast majority of iraqi's, iranians and syrians are chanting death to the evil empire.. the us alienated its closest grassroots allies, the kurds recently, and the only reason all sunnis aren't going full isis is because they're being caged up by unsustainable absolute dictatorships like the al saud regime which is bleeding so heaily in yemen the media isnt even covering that conflict anymore.. This is not a 'war' the Us can win. You're losing the 'war' on terror. It has weakened you considerably at home and abroad.

You're setting yourselves and the west up for long term failure, like you did with the Taliban, who have emerged victorious because they have maintained actual support from the population. All you're gaining from this conflict is further expenses for your military contractors, which are weakening American tax payers and policies abroad.

Which is why this is a great thing and I support it 100%. Things will hopefully escalate measurably prior to trumps re-election. America is being stretched thin, prime position to be in for China's and Russia's goals to be fulfilled in Asia and Europe. The middle east is bleeding you, you're stuck there perpetually multiplying your enemies, and its oh so hilarious. Contrast that with Russia's stance, it managed to insert itself into syria and completely change the war for its benefit with just a third of its annual TRAINING budget. You blew more money every month since 2015 just over syria alone, all you got from it is a kurdish 'ally' that now hates you because your other 'ally' turkey (which you've sanctioned because its buying strategic weapons systems from Russia lol) is bumfucking them as we speak...even as it invades libya and props up an anti us regime. Your musical chairs leadership is aimless, self serving and without a long term strategy. This latest self defeating act was directed from tel aviv lol. More fuel for the grand conspiracy, trump informed his israeli masters of the attack before he did his own government... And the whole world knows it. Suddenly polarization at home gets another boost and uncertainty regarding the situation abroad becomes the norm.
Lay off the the cocaine, nigger. You and @zap2theextreme, @TitanWest, and @Franjevina.
 
Five days ago, an undisclosed intelligence agency intercepted a telephone call made by the head of Iran’s Quds Force, Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani, in which he was heard ordering his proxies in Iraq to attack the U.S embassy in Baghdad, as well as other Israeli and American targets, with the aim of taking hostages, Israeli sources say.

So it was American Embassy Hostages 2.0, glad he got droned, it was the right call. Omar, McGowan and everyone crying about this scumbag should neck themselves.
 
Well regardless of what you think from all of this, the fact remains is that it was really stupid for Iran to even attack a U.S. Embassy to begin with.

If someone tried to break into my house, do you think that I will not try to defend it? Do you think that I won't chase away the prowler with a crowbar or with a gun and make sure that they never come back or else? Don't try to steal my shit or invade my property and we won't have any trouble.
 
A couple of interesting takes:
Iran’s Qassem Soleimani was on Bush and Obama’s kill list too but Trump went for the attack
Top Iranian commander Qassem Soleimani whom Donald Trump ordered killed was trained to disregard human lives.

The first reactions from Iran to the killing of its commander General Qassem Soleimani in a US air raid ordered by President Donald Trump, has been one of fury, promising ‘severe revenge’ and retaliation. But Iran’s room for manoeuvre is severely restricted, and what we hear coming out of Tehran is merely impotent rage.

Who was Qassem Soleimani

In terms of power he wielded, Qassem Soleimani was the de facto viceroy of Iran, Iraq, and Syria, second only to supreme leader Ali Khamenei. In many ways, he was the “Shia Crescent” – a term used for the rise of Shia governments opposing Sunni monarchies. That crescent was crafted in large part by Soleimani’s unique understanding of Iran’s weaknesses and strengths, and driven by his deep fanaticism.

As a young man, Soleimani had participated in, and was deeply influenced by, Operation Fath ol-Mobin, the turning point of the Iran-Iraq war. This particular assault was successful, because until then, the Iranians had fought on the back foot. The Imperial Iranian Forces had been the most technologically advanced in West Asia until the Shah’s departure in 1979 following the Iranian Revolution. It was staffed by excellent officers from the elite families of Iran. The subsequent purges of this elite meant that the officers chosen to replace them had no operational or command experience. This was when Iran turned to tactics like human wave attacks by massed infantry, and suicidal frontal assaults to liberate areas but at far greater human cost to Iranians than the enemy.

This is where Soleimani came to embrace a callous disregard for human life and never cringed from using it and fusing it with the Shia concept of ‘martyrdom’. He became the US and Israel’s greatest foe precisely because these two countries were sensitive to human losses. At the martyrs’ cemetery opposite Ayatollah Khomeini’s mausoleum in Teheran, which I visited in 2018, the caretaker told me that, according to his estimate, about 7,000-8,000 bodies had come from Syria, a sign of how inured to loss Iran had become as a society. But not everyone had.

In 2006, when Hezbollah’s abduction of Israeli soldiers triggered a full-fledged Israeli invasion, Hezbollah, using Soleimani’s tactics, fought the Israeli military to a standstill. The campaign was considered a failure by Israel, and a huge success for Hezbollah, but the Lebanese, unlike the Iranians, had no stomach for such massive human losses. Despite this, Hezbollah had no choice but to join Assad in Syria under Soleimani’s command, because much of its military strength depended on geographical contiguity through Syria and Iraq with Iran.

Why was Qassem Soleimani killed now
If killing him had been off the table for much of George Bush and Barack Obama’s presidency, Donald Trump decided to change Soleimani’s calculus, the same way Soleimani had upended the US-Israeli calculus. My sources in Washington DC told me that eliminating Soleimani had been on the table for a while. Working with flight schedules from and into Syria, US intelligence had figured out the code words used for Soleimani’s travel at some point in 2013. Initial reports seem confused about how many people were killed, but it turns out that there was some kind of a mini-conference of Shia militia leaders at Baghdad airport Friday morning. The US airstrike was clearly a planned decapitation of the Shia militias.

Wow! Not one but several explosions …. so it WAS a decapitation strike pic.twitter.com/GpRyEikbfK
— Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (@Iyervval) January 3, 2020


The reason Soleimani wasn’t assassinated earlier is twofold: first was Obama’s refusal to escalate, given that he needed to bring Iran to the table and for the Iran nuclear deal to succeed. Israel and Saudi Arabia’s fury at the Obama nuclear deal was understandable as they were being forced to accept Iranian sponsored terror and sub-conventional actions, effectively footing the tab for Iranian restraint on the nuclear front. The deal was therefore accurately described by both countries as a “license for terror” given to Iran.

The second was after Trump took over. Despite withdrawing from the nuclear deal, he needed Syria pacified and realised that this could not be done without Bashar al-Assad winning the civil war – that is to say, for Soleimani to win the war for Assad. In a sense, it is the impending conclusion of the Syrian civil war and the almost assured victory of the Syrian government that made Soleimani dispensable for the US. Given both leverages – the nuclear deal and Syria – were no longer of any value to the US, the shield around Soleimani (and Iranian sub-conventional actions) disappeared.

What Iran can do
There is little substance in Iranian fury. First, the US is technically on solid legal ground, having conducted proportionate retaliation for an attack by Iran-backed Shiite militias on its embassy compound in Baghdad. Second, Iran simply does not have the wherewithal to take on the US conventionally. Any conventional action by Iran will result in massive retaliation, with Trump itching to bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities.

Moreover, as the 1988 Operation Praying Mantis and the shooting down of Iran Air 655 flight demonstrated, the US can sink the Iranian Navy and shoot down a civil airliner with near-total impunity. With Iran’s forces severely stretched from Yemen, through Iraq and into Syria, there really are no viable options for retaliation by Iran; whatever retaliation happens will at best be a pinprick that will be easily absorbed and countered.

Iran could have retaliated through “sub-conventional” actions – the kind of terror or asymmetric warfare that Qassem Soleimani specialised in. But the 3 January US airstrike closed that option – with America clearly saying that if Iran engaged in terrorism against it, the US would escalate to the conventional level and target Iran’s leadership.

In short, the entire Iranian geopolitical playbook of the last 40 years just got thrown out of the window. All up: game, set and match trump.

The author is a senior fellow at the Institute of Peace and Conflict Studies. He tweets @iyervval. Views are personal.

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Iran Loses Its Indispensable Man
The killing of Qassem Soleimani robs the regime of the central figure for its ambitions in the Middle East.
The United States has killed Major General Qassem Soleimani, the commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’s Quds Force. The United States is now in a hot war with Iran after having waged war via proxies for the past several decades.

This doesn’t mean war, it will not lead to war, and it doesn’t risk war. None of that. It is war.

I don’t claim to be an expert on Iran—when I served as deputy assistant secretary of defense for Middle East policy, I used to remind my Iran team at the Pentagon that my regional expertise ended at the Shatt al-Arab waterway that divides Iraq and Iran, and with them, the Arabic- and Farsi-speaking regions of the Middle East.

But I do know something of how important Qassem Soleimani was, because he spent more time in the Arabic-speaking world—propping up Iranian allies from Iraq to Lebanon, and from Syria to Yemen—than he did back home in Iran. From a military and diplomatic perspective, Soleimani was Iran’s David Petraeus and Stan McChrystal and Brett McGurk all rolled into one.

And that’s now the problem Iran faces. I do not know of a single Iranian who was more indispensable to his government’s ambitions in the Middle East. From 2015 to 2017, when we were in the heat of the fighting against the Islamic State in both Syria and Iraq, I would watch Soleimani shuttle back and forth between Syria and Iraq. When the war to prop up Bashar al-Assad was going poorly, Soleimani would leave Iraq for Syria. And when Iranian-backed militias in Iraq began to struggle against the Islamic State, Soleimani would leave Syria for Iraq.

That’s now a problem for Iran. Just as the United States often faces a shortage of human capital—not all general officers and diplomats are created equal, sadly, and we are not exactly blessed with a surplus of Arabic speakers in our government—Iran also doesn’t have a lot of talent to go around. One of the reasons I thought Iran erred so often in Yemen—giving strategic weapons such as anti-ship cruise missiles to a bunch of undertrained Houthi yahoos, for example—was a lack of adult supervision.

Qassem Soleimani was the adult supervision. He was spread thin over the past decade, but he was nonetheless a serious, if nefarious, adversary of the United States and its partners in the region. And Iran and its partners will now feel his loss greatly.

I don’t know, and I’m not willing to argue one way or the other, whether that fact justifies Soleimani’s killing. The United States is claiming it acted because Soleimani was making plans to attack U.S. diplomats and troops in the Middle East and because Soleimani had recently orchestrated other attacks on coalition bases in Iraq. Soleimani was at least partially, and in many cases directly, responsible for dozens if not hundreds of attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq going back to the height of the Iraq War. So unlike some other claims this administration has made, what the Trump administration is claiming here would not surprise me—to say the least—if it were indeed true.

I also do not claim to know how any of this ends. I don’t think anyone can say for certain how Iran will respond, or how the United States and its partners are prepared—or not prepared—to weather that response. The only thing I know for certain is that the people of the Middle East will suffer greatly in the weeks ahead. Which, sadly, has been a safe bet for far too long.
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I don't agree with everything both articles say, but there is some interesting food for thought in there.​
 
A recap of what has been going on today.

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Tucker weighs in on these events.


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Rose McGowan and John Cusack took to Twitter late Thursday and early Friday with harsh reactions to President Trump's order of the airstrike that killed Iran's top general, Qassem Soleimani.

Cusack, 53, spared no time blasting Trump on Thursday night, letting his 1.6 million followers know that he deemed the president clueless for putting United States citizens in danger.

McGowan, 46, known for regularly making lewd remarks against Trump on social media, sent out her own series of tweets early Friday attacking the United States and leaving some followers questioning her sanity.

"Dear #Iran, The USA has disrespected your country, your flag, your people. 52% of us humbly apologize. We want peace with your nation. We are being held hostage by a terrorist regime. We do not know how to escape. Please do not kill us. #Soleimani," she wrote.

The Pentagon confirmed Thursday evening that Trump had ordered the attack that killed Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani. The top military commander was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American and coalition members and the wounding of thousands more, the U.S. State Department said.

McGowan's followers accused the actress of doing drugs and pleaded with her to take down the tweet or delete her account as a whole. McGowan responded to the outcry with another slew of verbal attacks against America and Trump.

"Thanks a lot, d--khead," McGowan wrote to Trump in another tweet.

McGowan's rage-filled Twitter spree continued into the early morning hours on Friday. When one follower simply requested she delete the apologetic tweet, McGowan responded, "eat s--t."

While the actress pointed out that Soleimani was an "evil, evil man," she continued to argue that the United States has no morals.

"Of course #Soleimani was an evil evil man who did evil evil things. But that at this moment is not the f--king point. The United States is morally corrupt and acts illegally. It is only logical to appeal to Iran’s pride by apologizing. I’m taking one for the team. #TeamStayAlive," she continued.

McGowan was labeled a "traitor" as others outraged by her rant instructed her to "move out of the US!"

On early Friday, President of Iran Hassan Rouhani promised to "take revenge for this heinous crime," leading to the U.S. State Department to urge all U.S. citizens to "depart Iraq immediately."

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Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., called on members of Congress late Thursday to join her in putting a stop to President Trump from starting a war as a "distraction" in Iran following the U.S. airstrike that killed the notorious Gen. Qassim Soleimani.

“So what if Trump wants war, knows this leads to war and needs the distraction?” the Democrat freshman "Squad" member said. “Real question is, will those with congressional authority step in and stop him? I know I will.”

The Pentagon confirmed earlier Thursday evening that Trump had ordered the attack that killed Soleimani, the head of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' elite Quds Force, among other military officials at Baghdad International Airport in Iraq. Iran’s top “shadow commander” was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American and coalition service members and the wounding of thousands more, the State Department said.

Omar responded to a tweet from Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., who questioned whether Trump acted within his right as Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces to authorize the attack. The U.S. Constitution divides war powers between the Executive and Legislative branches. Congress can declare war and raise support for the armed forces.

“Soleimani was an enemy of the United States. That’s not a question,” Murphy affirmed. “The question is this - as reports suggest, did America just assassinate, without any congressional authorization, the second most powerful person in Iran, knowingly setting off a potential massive regional war?”

Murphy, a member of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, said that while the justification for the attack is to “deter future Iranian attacks,” the U.S. usually doesn’t assassinate foreign officials because it could potentially cause more Americans to be killed.

“That should be our real, pressing and grave worry tonight,” he said.

He added that while no one knows what will happen next, “the neocons thumping their chest tonight should recall that the worst mistakes global powers make are when they strike militarily in complicated places with few friends, with no consideration of the consequences.”

Many Democrats admitted that no Americans would mourn Soleimani's death but also raised concern that the escalation will put the U.S. on a crash course for a new conflict in the Mideast. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi released a statement saying that Trump ordered the airstrike “without the consultation of Congress.”

The State Department said the airstrike “was aimed at deterring future Iranian attack plans."

"The United States will continue to take all necessary action to protect our people and our interests wherever they are around the world," the agency said.

Soleimani is suspected of directing a mob of hundreds of Iranian-backed militants to storm the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad this week, triggering a two-day faceoff with American forces at the most heavily fortified U.S. diplomatic mission in the world. On Tuesday, Trump vowed retaliation against the militia groups. He tweeted an American flag Thursday evening after Soleimani’s death was confirmed.

In April 2019, the State Department announced that Iranian and Iranian-backed forces led by Soleimani were responsible for killing 608 U.S. troops during the Iraq War.

Soleimani took over the external operations wing of the IRGC in 1998 and was known as one of the most powerful military leaders in the Middle East. The State Department believes he was the masterminded behind the major military operations, bombings and assassinations that accounted for at least 17 percent of all U.S. personnel deaths in Iraq between 2003 and 2011.

Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei on Friday warned that a "harsh retaliation is waiting" for the U.S. after the airstrike that killed Soleimani.

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Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., mocked Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, on Friday after the senator suggested that she and other Democrats were "outraged" over the death of Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani.

Cruz was responding to a tweet in which Omar called on members of Congress to step in and prevent President Trump from engaging in armed conflict with Iran.

Cruz tweeted: "According the the [sic] Obama Department of Defense, Qasem Soleimani was a terrorist directly responsible for the murder of over 500 US service men [sic] & women. Why are congressional Dems outraged that he’s finally dead?"

In response, Omar suggested that Cruz was purposefully overlooking the actual nature of her criticism.

"We are outraged the president would assassinate a foreign official, possibly setting off another war without Congressional authorization and has zero plan to deal with the consequences," she responded. "But of course you know that."

She also tweeted a quote in which Cruz, President Trump's former opponent in the 2016 Republican primaries, cast doubt on Trump's ability to lead.

Omar also criticized Trump, indicating that he was doing what he predicted former President Obama would do with Iran: start a war.

"This reckless mind is now leading us to war!" she tweeted, alongside screenshots of Trump's previous tweets.

Both Cruz and Omar sit on the Senate and House foreign relations committees, respectively. While it's unclear how Congress will proceed, the president would need the legislative branch's approval for a formal declaration of war.

Cruz also defended Trump from rhetorical attacks by former Obama administration official Ben Rhodes.

"Trump may have just started a war with no congressional debate," Rhodes tweeted.

Cruz responded by mocking the Iranian nuclear deal set up under Rhodes and the former president., tweeting: "Perhaps it would have been a better idea to send him $1.7 billion in unmarked bills, in pallets on planes in the dead of night, so he could kill more Americans?"

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Iranian Revolutionary Guards spokesman Ramadan Sharif burst into tears on live television upon acknowledging the death of Gen. Qasem Soleimani, the Iranian terror chief by a U.S. airstrike at Baghdad airport on Friday.

“The joy of the Americans and the Zionists will now turn to their condolences,” Sharif said of the strike, according to Lebanese media, before adding that Soleimani was one of the most “experienced, brave, revolutionary and loyal leaders of the state who achieved during his blessed life for 41 years.”

The video, broadcast on Iranian state television, was verified by Al-Arabiya, a Saudi news network.

The reporter and spokesman then embraced one another with a hug and kiss on the cheek.

The Pentagon said Thursday that the U.S. military eliminated Gen. Qassem Soleimani – the head of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Quds Force, a unite that organizes terrorist attacks in the region – at the direction of President Donald Trump.

The airstrike occurred at Baghdad’s international airport Friday, Iranian state television and three Iraqi officials said.

The Defense Department said Soleimani “was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region.” It also accused Soleimani of approving the attacks on the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad earlier this week.

A statement released late Thursday by the Pentagon said the strike on Soleimani “was aimed at deterring future Iranian attack plans.”

The strike also killed Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, deputy commander of the Popular Mobilization Forces, or PMF, Iraqi officials said. The PMF media arm said the two were killed in an American airstrike that targeted their vehicle on the road to the airport.

The PMF is a coalition of pro-Iran, mostly Shiite militias and terror organizations that united to fight the Sunni Islamic State terrorist group. Iraq legalized them as a formal wing of the Iraqi military.

Speaking to CNN Friday morning, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the strike came in response to intelligence that Soleimani was planning to imminently attack U.S. citizens.

“He was actively plotting in the region to take actions — a big action, as he described it — that would have put dozens if not hundreds of American lives at risk,” Pompeo stated. “We know it was imminent. This was an intelligence-based assessment that drove our decision-making process.”

Shortly after Pompeo’s remarks, President Trump broke his silence on Soleimani’s killing, saying the Iranian general was “directly and indirectly responsible for the death of millions of people” and that he should have been eliminated years prior.

“General Qassem Soleimani has killed or badly wounded thousands of Americans over an extended period of time, and was plotting to kill many more … but got caught!” the president posted on Twitter. “He was directly and indirectly responsible for the death of millions of people, including the recent large number of PROTESTERS killed in Iran itself.”

“While Iran will never be able to properly admit it, Soleimani was both hated and feared within the country. They are not nearly as saddened as the leaders will let the outside world believe. He should have been taken out many years ago!” he concluded.

Tucker was ok with the leader of ISIS being killed, but doesn't like Soleimani being droned because there are too many Iran war hawks in Washington. As leader of the Quds force he was every bid the terrorist as the austere religious leader.
 
The Iranian Mullah's will have to act, just to preserve face, before their ever more restless and disproving citizenry. But they now face acting against a horrible series of circumstances. Any direct attack guarantees an escalation to conventional war which they cannot win. Most of their normal levers of power, such as threatening the waterways are now somewhat moot, as it regards their primary opponent. They have lost the key player that controlled their client forces and thugs. So no idea what they will do, aand at the same time they will have to reduce or eliminate the financial and military support given to their agents in Yemen, Syria, Lebanon and elsewhere, to draw those resources back to protect Iran.

Iran fucked up and fucked up hard. They came up against a player who didn't play by their rules. Who wasn't scarred of their plausible deniability nor their attempts to one off the attacks. To dirty up someone elses hands to maintain the claim that theirs were clean. Trump didn't care. He trusted what he saw. He did not feel the need to build a legal case before intervening in a terrorist operation against his embassy and people. So the battle lines are no longer remote. The PMF is fleeing for their lives from Iraq heading for Iran. Nobody ie returning Hizbolah and the Houthi's calls. Whereas all the major players in the region seem well coordinated. Even those not briefed in on the Soleimani strike such as Kuwait, see the unraveling of his forces and are moving to hasten this. The Mullah's defensive perimeter has just shortened from Syria, Libya, Lebanon, Yemen and Iraq, to their own borders and cities.

It's pretty clear just from what has been leaked out, that they intercepted orders from Soleimani with plans to attack the US embassy and kill or capture US diplomats as hostages. Almost certainly to immediately take them to Iran. After all such a scheme worked against Carter. It's not a scenario that most Presidents would allow to happen again. And current US Military capabilities in the region are well past 79-80. (Yeah everybody is drooling over the f-35's coming on line. But watching the Ospreys the past 2 days. How far and how fast they were able to travel to plant Marines right inside the embassy was remarkable. Those funky whirlybirds are proving themselves more capable than all the news stories led us to believe.)
 
Lay off the the cocaine, nigger. You and @zap2theextreme, @TitanWest, and @Franjevina.

You squeal like a newborn babe. Show me one aspect of US foreign policy that has led to success for the average American since the 90's. I'm all ears. No more cries for milk please.

People like this are correct but not for the reason their sub 80 IQ, tiny, poorly functioning minds believe.

The West will die from internal combustion, not because of any of your conjured boogeymen. America and the West will die due to technocratic censorship, the dumbing down of the public at large (you are exhibit A), the eventual authoritarianism of progressives and the cowardness of the neoconservative right. The death of the West will happen when things like the Constitution and individual liberties are widdled down to the bare bone and either the people will rise up and kill everyone in charge or we swing into the Marxist Utopia of starvation, gulags and government sanctioned mass murder.

Forever war, the Jewish hegemony, propagandist media, secularism, destruction of the family unit and Leftist indoctrination starting in early public school are all part of the same Overton window destroying process that has been pouring over the West since the 1960s.

Killing a few sand people with missiles and making Iran our bitch has nothing to do with it.

Nobody claimed the rot was external. It is internal. Once again, you revel in the myth of the duopoly. There is no such thing. America has been an oligarchy since ww2. The visible decline began in the 90's when without a boogeyman to rally behind, the American system imploded and turned on itself when the neoliberal globalists joined the neocon in trying to export your very fake values abroad. Nobody is buying the muh Chynah bullshit, and without a soviet union, Islam made for a poor boogeyman. Thus you are part of the rot, polarizing your own system from within with such nonsense. American freedom is as much a propagandized myth as its exceptionalism. Problem for America is some are starting to wake up and realize this. Your own propaganda is failing you sheep because you opened your population up to global influences. Should have kept the world at arms length and not tried to export your mythical values abroad. When you open the floodgates propaganda and values flow both ways. Yours is failing to capture hearts and minds abroad, and millions on your own turf are starting to turn. For every dipshit hong kong student you brainwash with fake values using your media, 10 californians turn into maoists. The hilarity ensues.
 
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Tucker was ok with the leader of ISIS being killed, but doesn't like Soleimani being droned because there are too many Iran war hawks in Washington. As leader of the Quds force he was every bid the terrorist as the austere religious leader.
Too many iran Warhawks? Or not enough of them lol. Bolton is just the clown or the fall guy masking the intentions of shit birds in both parties.

I find it interesting that the Iranians, thanks to their pride and love of martyrdom, are so far up their ass about not conserving top talent. The man lived too dangerously and their commanders have a habit of getting way too close to the front lines. They have been screaming that Allah will take vengeance and yet they their responses are very small compared to the grand reckoning they give off.

On a final note, "one man's meat is another man's poison".
 
Technically speaking the Soviet Union did not dissolve until 1991 so I guess that?

I don't think policies from 1990-1991 did anything relevant to affect the soviet union. The pivotal period was from late 70's to 1985. And even if we include that, the last 28 years have been one genocidal failure after another. Mind I remind you one of your elected presidents created a literal Islamic state in Europe? That's some sad shit bro. Symbolically that was an even bigger fuck up than Bush's response to 9-11 attacks that flooded europe with islamists and turned russia into a middle east participant. Never mind that the attacks were carried out by your own ally, who's ring Obama fucking kissed on national television. An ally whom Trump is showering with weapons exports. As I said, the hilarity ensues groundhog day style, over and over. I thought Trumpkins was different. Hey I was wrong. So were we all. It's apparent your elected l;leaders have no actual power. Just another puppet representin' the oligarchy. Thus your representative democracy is fake and like I said has been since ww2 at least. Thus your values are fake. You live in a fake country and the charade is coming to light.

Oh and Iran WILL respond. I doubt the response will be predictable so no point pontificating any further about it until it happens.
 
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I don't think policies from 1990-1991 did anything relevant to affect the soviet union. The pivotal period was from late 70's to 1985. And even if we include that, the last 28 years have been one genoical failure after another. Mind I remind you one of your elected presidents created a literal islamic state in Europe? That's some sad shit bro.
I agree tbh, I was just trying to play devils advocate and find anything that would not be no to that question.
 
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You can't make this shit up. Why are people taking the UN serious anymore?

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>Iran is on the brick of civil war
>be the powers that be there
>need a common foe to stop it
>make constant aggressive rhetoric against the US in hope of baiting a war
>US embassy is attacked in your third most hated foe's capital
>guy who the US says did it is in your third most hated foe's capital.
>he's one of your generals, known for being the McCain of your country
>he dies ingloriously to a drone strike while the US doesn't deploy any troops beyond securing their own embassy, which is legally US soil
>I bEt tEh JoOwSz dID DIS

This but unironically.
 
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