Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[Mako_Spark]

It's genuinely distressing to see how many of the autogynephiles who are most eager to set children down the blockers and castration path already fathered children before doing anything to their bodies that would have compromised their ability to do so.

And how often they advocate for children to get blockers so they don't have to go through the horrors of "non-consensual puberty," 1) as if anyone 'consents' to puberty and 2) so... are they saying they'd take back their own fertility and therefore, their kids just for the chance to have been a cute ~uwu teen girl~ and have (totally unrealistic male fantasy) sleepovers in high school, etc?

Spoiler

Yes.

Besides trans kids, the "married dude with young family" who has just come out is generally the worst of all the troons... they don't tell their wives anything (or flat-out lie and say "I just like crossdressing sometimes" or whatever if they're caught) until they have them trapped with a kiddo or two, at which point they are usually so psychotically jealous of their real, functioning female wives they either abandon their families altogether and spend all the child support money on troon shit (usually blaming the wife the whole time, for 'not supporting me to be my true self') or they gaslight their partners into becoming their handmaidens who have to tiptoe around their new 'wives' and definitely never mention any complaints about pregnancy, birth, breastfeeding, periods, etc because it's literally 'cis privilege' to have ovarian cancer now...

There's a reddit board for spouses/partners of trans people and it's the most depressing thing you'll ever read, all these women being told "but if you don't love me in a dress and makeup (and I'm a better-looking woman than you, btw) and agree you're a lesbian who married a woman even though I sure seemed like a man on our wedding day, you're a transphobic bitch and you never really loved me..." The happy couples on that board seem very, very thin on the ground, there are so many 'I know I'm normal literally the worst person ever to feel this way, but I want my husband back' posts ... and funny, when new dads troon out they seem to really like to pretend to breastfeed and spend days (and $$$) on things that make them feel 'pretty,' yet they never seem to do any more of the real childcare, or laundry, or cooking meals, or washing up... apparently life on 'easy mode' (eyeroll) is still too hard for them.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

Guys I'm worried about Jazz. The Saved by the Bell reboot info just came out and there's another trans kid who just got cast as "The most popular girl in school". This wouldn't really matter, except aforementioned trans kid is younger and more feminine looking than Jazz AND said publicly that Jazz was the person who inspired their transition.

Jazz is barely an adult and already being replaced by a younger, "hotter" model.

Josie Totah is 18, so almost past his expiration date. He won't replace Jazz for long if at all.

 

[Non-Expert!]

Even as a young adult in college, children were a hypothetical "maybe someday". It just wasn't on my radar. I was focused on my career and marriage and kids weren't a top priority. It wasn't until I hit about 29 that I felt the urge for babies. There's no way young kids can make a permanent decision about fertility. They just don't have the mental maturity to process what it means to give up the ability to have children. Many kids that age swear they'll never have kids or end up like their parents. For some, it isn't until they are older that those feelings of wanting to settle down and have a family kick in.

These doctors have to know this. The only reason I can think of to willingly get your kids sterilized is if you believe transgenderism is some kind of inheritable birth defect and you want to prevent future generations of it or you think your kid is so crazy that it would be best if they never reproduced. You'd never advocate that for a healthy, normal child.

The desire to have children emerged at 29? Case and point. There IS a biological clock, and it doesn't stop ticking at menopause. It is on a cellular level, and starts at conception. There are reasons for why children sprout teeth and lose them, as if by clockwork. Puberty is more complex so is perimenopause and menopause. But hopefully I made my point. The vast majority of children, in keeping with the cellular clock, ARE healthy and for all intents and purposes, normal. All of this is gender stuff is moot, if they are not.

On the subject of biological clocks, I have a dark suspicion, that Jazz won't see her 28th birthday. The 27 club is a grouping of celebrities who died at 27. People change a lot, around that time. Heavy partiers who ignore their bodies signals to slow down, can die any time, but seem to cluster around that time. Our bodies secrete less growth hormones, by 30. If you have some underlying problems, the first chicken comes home to roost, at 27, more follow. People also mellow out, mature, and envision themselves in other roles, such as a spouse and parent. On a positive note, insurance actuaries see that mortality (especially male) takes a nose-dive at that age, and insurance rates go down. Jazz is aging like the rest of us.

So, will Jazz die before 30? Realistically speaking, where is this person's life headed? Every day, is one day toward middle age. This becomes a reality for all of us, except that the body ages in sync with the mind, and hopefully your social role, lifestyle and emotional needs take a congruent course. How is this going to work for Jazz Jennings?

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

Gee, I wonder what happened the last time we had a medical fad that was widely accepted and legitimized by authority and pushed in the popular culture as the cure to everybody's sadbrains?

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Every pharmaceutical company profiting from this now had better put aside a huge kitty for paying out the inevitable mountain of lawsuits that will be heading their way soon, once troons in their twenties start catching buyer's remorse and developing HRT-related heart disease.....

 

[Tasty Tatty]

This whole "your truth" is very much Tumblrspeak and it's ridiculous as we know there aren't different truths but one and the takes people have on them.

Jazz is a male human. He's gotten his dick cut to pretend he's female and he demands be treated as such. Ok, we'll call you a "she", but you aren't a woman.

His mother saying Jazz knows what's his truth sounds like the kid's constantly told "you're a girl if you want to be and that's all that matters". Jee, I wonder what's the need for the constant validation of something he's allegedly being sure of since he was a little kiddie?

There's a reddit board for spouses/partners of trans people and it's the most depressing thing you'll ever read, all these women being told "but if you don't love me in a dress and makeup (and I'm a better-looking woman than you, btw) and agree you're a lesbian who married a woman even though I sure seemed like a man on our wedding day, you're a transphobic bitch and you never really loved me..." The happy couples on that board seem very, very thin on the ground, there are so many 'I know I'm normal literally the worst person ever to feel this way, but I want my husband back' posts ... and funny, when new dads troon out they seem to really like to pretend to breastfeed and spend days (and $$$) on things that make them feel 'pretty,' yet they never seem to do any more of the real childcare, or laundry, or cooking meals, or washing up... apparently life on 'easy mode' (eyeroll) is still too hard for them.

Not surprised that many misogyinistics have jumped into an ideology that allow them to pretty much yell and beat women and getting away with it.

 

[behavioral swamp thang]

new "I Am Jazz" trailer

^ Oh my gosh the new season is breaking my heart, especially the end where he's experiencing surgical complications. There is WAYYYY to much pressure on this child. What were they thinking, he was just going to go through major league surgery and walk three miles a day around cambridge? Jazz, free yourself.

 

[Muttnik]

new "I Am Jazz" trailer

^ Oh my gosh the new season is breaking my heart, especially the end where he's experiencing surgical complications. There is WAYYYY to much pressure on this child. What were they thinking, he was just going to go through major league surgery and walk three miles a day around cambridge? Jazz, free yourself.

Holy shit, it's gonna be a nightmare.

 

[Positron]

I never saw Jaron as masculine as when he cries (or pretend to cry) -- 0:52 in the trailer.

Am I right in estimating 90% of the people who appear in the show to be male?

 

[Tasty Tatty]

So, this trailer is showing us how Jazz did some fundraising that went wrong and then threw a tantrum after it went wrong while the family is excusing him as "he acts like this when things don't go her way".

Yes, because working adults never find any kind of obstacle or eventuality in their jobs that they have to solve on the way. And when it happens, we start crying and shut ourselves in a closet to cry because "mom! I wanted to be perfect, mom!!".

 

[Muttnik]

Jazz looks so pale, stressed, and mentally unwell in the trailer that I'm reminded yet again that it is 100% the parents' fault for putting their innocent child through this much emotional anguish just because they wanted fame and attention. Christ's sakes, Jazz is STILL a teenager. A teenager should not be having emotional fucking breakdowns this early in the game.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

he acts like this when things don't go her way".

Imagine the tantrums because his srs went wrong. Living with Jazz and his horrible mother must be hell.

A munchausen narc and a multilated teen eunuch with a pre pubertal body and mind.

 

[Cupcake Noodles]

I was actually discussing gender dysphoria with a friend who's studying psychology. In the books it's listed as a mental illness.
How is that other mental illnesses are being treated with either drugs, support groups, psychology, psychiatry, admissions to hospital etc until that person who has the mental illness accepts who he/she is. Either this being depression, anorexia etc. Everything comes down to accept the situation and work through it with the help of experts and family/friends.

What makes gender dysphoria that people are taking such a drastic change to their bodies (surgeries, blockers, hormones) so that they accept themselves?
In body dysphoria no one will tell you "ok then. I'll just put you under the knife until you feel good about your body". When you have anorexia they won't put you on a limited diet so you can barely be alive by super thin.
In all of these, people are trying to make you understand that this is who you are and you need to get past this issues.

Now suddenly, trans kids who have gender dysphoria for whatever reason, are quickly to given blockers and then surgeries. When as an illness this dysphoria will go away. No matter how many top/bot surgeries they'll have, no matter how many hormones they'll take, it will never change the dysphoria they feel about their gender. They will never become or feel the gender they so desperately want to be. At some point, when they are mature enough they change their minds and that's when they get depressed, they resent their lives and commit suicide.
The surgeries they choose to make or people are pushing to make are not reversible. It's like cutting my hand off because i don't like the look of it and then down the line I realise that I actually need it in my life. I cannot grow another one, i cannot get back the one I cut off.

 

[IBrokeBob]

Jazz looks so pale, stressed, and mentally unwell in the trailer that I'm reminded yet again that it is 100% the parents' fault for putting their innocent child through this much emotional anguish just because they wanted fame and attention. Christ's sakes, Jazz is STILL a teenager. A teenager should not be having emotional fucking breakdowns this early in the game.

jazz was never mentally stable enough to go on tv and become the happy poster child of trans kids. Jazz is too easily led by others, cares to much what others think, craves constant attention and tantrums easily. That might be a good recipe for rating but its a shitty situation in reality.

His mother is a complete pos for creating this entire fiasco. She is basically a pimp and the fact she makes money off this bullshit is disgusting.

jazz needs to get somewhere away from all of these enablers and pushers and just go spend a year in private and figure out who the hell he is and stop with the fantasy female bullshit. If he wants to be a woman then go live the completely unexciting life of the average young female, get a mundane job,shun publicity and figure out on his own what he wants to do without mommy and the yes men constantly telling him what to do.

He needs to cut ties with toxic mom asap and learn to function independently like any other 18-19 y.o.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

I was actually discussing gender dysphoria with a friend who's studying psychology. In the books it's listed as a mental illness.
How is that other mental illnesses are being treated with either drugs, support groups, psychology, psychiatry, admissions to hospital etc until that person who has the mental illness accepts who he/she is. Either this being depression, anorexia etc. Everything comes down to accept the situation and work through it with the help of experts and family/friends.

What makes gender dysphoria that people are taking such a drastic change to their bodies (surgeries, blockers, hormones) so that they accept themselves?
In body dysphoria no one will tell you "ok then. I'll just put you under the knife until you feel good about your body". When you have anorexia they won't put you on a limited diet so you can barely be alive by super thin.
In all of these, people are trying to make you understand that this is who you are and you need to get past this issues.

Now suddenly, trans kids who have gender dysphoria for whatever reason, are quickly to given blockers and then surgeries. When as an illness this dysphoria will go away. No matter how many top/bot surgeries they'll have, no matter how many hormones they'll take, it will never change the dysphoria they feel about their gender. They will never become or feel the gender they so desperately want to be. At some point, when they are mature enough they change their minds and that's when they get depressed, they resent their lives and commit suicide.
The surgeries they choose to make or people are pushing to make are not reversible. It's like cutting my hand off because i don't like the look of it and then down the line I realise that I actually need it in my life. I cannot grow another one, i cannot get back the one I cut off.

Shut up, bigot. How dare you show concern for mental health patients and how their "treatments" haven't been helping them in the slightest.

In all seriousness though, I can't agree with you more. When someone has gender dysphoria, they are struggling with a mental illness. Everyone says that you're a bigot if you call it an illness ... But is it bigoted if I call someone with manic depression mentally ill? Is it bigoted if I call a cancer patient ill? People with gender dysphoria are obviously struggling ... And I think it's insane to call them "stunning and brave," and put them on this pedestal while COMPLETELY IGNORING what's actually going on in their heads. Put them under the knife and change their bodies to an irreparable point instead; yeah sure, that'll solve everything! It's done great to help that suicide rate ... Not.

 

[sperginity]

I was actually discussing gender dysphoria with a friend who's studying psychology. In the books it's listed as a mental illness.
How is that other mental illnesses are being treated with either drugs, support groups, psychology, psychiatry, admissions to hospital etc until that person who has the mental illness accepts who he/she is. Either this being depression, anorexia etc. Everything comes down to accept the situation and work through it with the help of experts and family/friends.

its because they fucked up and made homosexuality a mental disorder a long time ago, activists worked to get it removed from the DSM, this was after lots of research showed that distress isn't an inherent part of being gay. The mistake is embarrassing to psychological professionals, who now defer to the LGBTQ activists to avoid making the same mistake again. It is a lot like how LGBT rights groups are uncritically accepted because of the shift in cultural attitudes about gay marriage, people are embarassed to have been on "the wrong side of history", but it doesn't seem to cross their minds that it is totally possible for a group to be correct about one thing and incorrect about another.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

And how often they advocate for children to get blockers so they don't have to go through the horrors of "non-consensual puberty," 1) as if anyone 'consents' to puberty and 2) so... are they saying they'd take back their own fertility and therefore, their kids just for the chance to have been a cute ~uwu teen girl~ and have (totally unrealistic male fantasy) sleepovers in high school, etc?

Spoiler

Yes.

Besides trans kids, the "married dude with young family" who has just come out is generally the worst of all the troons... they don't tell their wives anything (or flat-out lie and say "I just like crossdressing sometimes" or whatever if they're caught) until they have them trapped with a kiddo or two, at which point they are usually so psychotically jealous of their real, functioning female wives they either abandon their families altogether and spend all the child support money on troon shit (usually blaming the wife the whole time, for 'not supporting me to be my true self') or they gaslight their partners into becoming their handmaidens who have to tiptoe around their new 'wives' and definitely never mention any complaints about pregnancy, birth, breastfeeding, periods, etc because it's literally 'cis privilege' to have ovarian cancer now...

There's a reddit board for spouses/partners of trans people and it's the most depressing thing you'll ever read, all these women being told "but if you don't love me in a dress and makeup (and I'm a better-looking woman than you, btw) and agree you're a lesbian who married a woman even though I sure seemed like a man on our wedding day, you're a transphobic bitch and you never really loved me..." The happy couples on that board seem very, very thin on the ground, there are so many 'I know I'm normal literally the worst person ever to feel this way, but I want my husband back' posts ... and funny, when new dads troon out they seem to really like to pretend to breastfeed and spend days (and $$$) on things that make them feel 'pretty,' yet they never seem to do any more of the real childcare, or laundry, or cooking meals, or washing up... apparently life on 'easy mode' (eyeroll) is still too hard for them.

Any wife has every right to be pissed as hell IMO and end the marriage immediately when their husband comes out as a troon, end of story. Or in fact, at a guy who knew he was gay and decided to use a woman as a social shield only to bound out of the closet in his 40s 0r 50s, immediately go on an open cock crusade, leave the wife and demand a victory parade for living his best gay life, while the wife is expcted not to resent that at all and sit and wave rainbow flags in support despite having her life ripped apart. Fuck them too. Why anyone would care about a man who lied and betrayed you also calling you transphobic ... I mean, who cares about the insult when the greater injury, wasting your time, has been done. All these reddit wives should 100% get shut of these AGP troon husbands. Youve been taken for an absolute fool, why continue with the stupidity by being a doormat. Lawyer up, and sort that divorce out.

 

[Kulee Baba]

I caught Episode 510 on the Lolcow Network TLC, anyway in the beginning of this episode Jazz has another interview with media and Jeanette stands behind the door listening carefully to them talk. Jeannette's narration explains that she's very worried that Jazz is giving the less appealing details of her "bottom" surgery, the failures and the pain that Jazz endured.

It's horrifying how psychologically manipulative this mother is, she's already destroyed her child's chance of living an ordinary life. But she needs others to remain ignorant of the horrors that await those that seek out sex changes.

 

[NoReturn]

I caught Episode 510 on the Lolcow Network TLC, anyway in the beginning of this episode Jazz has another interview with media and Jeanette stands behind the door listening carefully to them talk. Jeannette's narration explains that she's very worried that Jazz is giving the less appealing details of her "bottom" surgery, the failures and the pain that Jazz endured.

It's horrifying how psychologically manipulative this mother is, she's already destroyed her child's chance of living an ordinary life. But she needs others to remain ignorant of the horrors that await those that seek out sex changes.

Is "Crabs in a bucket" by proxy a thing?

 

[IBrokeBob]

I caught Episode 510 on the Lolcow Network TLC, anyway in the beginning of this episode Jazz has another interview with media and Jeanette stands behind the door listening carefully to them talk. Jeannette's narration explains that she's very worried that Jazz is giving the less appealing details of her "bottom" surgery, the failures and the pain that Jazz endured.

It's horrifying how psychologically manipulative this mother is, she's already destroyed her child's chance of living an ordinary life. But she needs others to remain ignorant of the horrors that await those that seek out sex changes.

So in other words, jeanette absolutely does NOT want jazz to tell the truth about what is really going on with him.

Kinda funny since jeanette posted the other day "my sweet girl.....you live in your truth which protects you from caring what others think."

So which is it jeanette? You deny jazz the right to tell the truth about the pain, misery and doubts that she is experiencing..... but then you spout bs about jazz" living in her truth".

What a stupid and cruel bitch she is.

 

[Piss Bear]

I was actually discussing gender dysphoria with a friend who's studying psychology. In the books it's listed as a mental illness.
How is that other mental illnesses are being treated with either drugs, support groups, psychology, psychiatry, admissions to hospital etc until that person who has the mental illness accepts who he/she is. Either this being depression, anorexia etc. Everything comes down to accept the situation and work through it with the help of experts and family/friends.

What makes gender dysphoria that people are taking such a drastic change to their bodies (surgeries, blockers, hormones) so that they accept themselves?
In body dysphoria no one will tell you "ok then. I'll just put you under the knife until you feel good about your body". When you have anorexia they won't put you on a limited diet so you can barely be alive by super thin.
In all of these, people are trying to make you understand that this is who you are and you need to get past this issues.

Now suddenly, trans kids who have gender dysphoria for whatever reason, are quickly to given blockers and then surgeries. When as an illness this dysphoria will go away. No matter how many top/bot surgeries they'll have, no matter how many hormones they'll take, it will never change the dysphoria they feel about their gender. They will never become or feel the gender they so desperately want to be. At some point, when they are mature enough they change their minds and that's when they get depressed, they resent their lives and commit suicide.
The surgeries they choose to make or people are pushing to make are not reversible. It's like cutting my hand off because i don't like the look of it and then down the line I realise that I actually need it in my life. I cannot grow another one, i cannot get back the one I cut off.

Shut up, bigot. How dare you show concern for mental health patients and how their "treatments" haven't been helping them in the slightest.

In all seriousness though, I can't agree with you more. When someone has gender dysphoria, they are struggling with a mental illness. Everyone says that you're a bigot if you call it an illness ... But is it bigoted if I call someone with manic depression mentally ill? Is it bigoted if I call a cancer patient ill? People with gender dysphoria are obviously struggling ... And I think it's insane to call them "stunning and brave," and put them on this pedestal while COMPLETELY IGNORING what's actually going on in their heads. Put them under the knife and change their bodies to an irreparable point instead; yeah sure, that'll solve everything! It's done great to help that suicide rate ... Not.

I think all this movement has really done is expose society’s primitive understanding and dangerous views on mental health, even beyond gender dysphoria. In a sane society these people would not be encouraged, and would be shut down and shunned. In a better society maybe there would be an effective treatment for gender dysphoria. Who knows if mental health treatment will ever get that advanced... one can only hope. But the gender transitioning treatment is utterly ass-backwards. No other mental health condition is treated like this. We don’t help people with depression kill themselves. We don’t encourage people with binge-eating disorders to binge to their heart’s content. So why in God’s name do we treat gender dysphoria sufferers this way?

All their movement has accomplished is taking mental health movements a big step backwards, if you think about it... and taking the societal awareness away from other mental illnesses and leaving them in the dark. People suffering from anorexia are not very different from people with gender dysphoria; they suffer from body dysmorphia in the same way. But the treatments are wildly different. Why?