War Iran-United States Military Crisis of 2020 - US Baghdad embassy under siege, rocket fire in US Baghdad green zone, Ukrainian Airlines flight 752 crash, and more!

January 10th:
Exclusive: Informants in Iraq, Syria helped U.S. kill Iran's Soleimani - sources (archive)(post)
Iraqi Shia cleric whose militia killed American troops says crisis is over following Iran strike and Trump speech (archive)(post)
Iraqi PM tells US to decide mechanism for troop withdrawal (archive)(post)
Mike Pence says Congress might 'compromise sources and methods' if fully briefed on the Soleimani strike (archive)(post)
Unidentified planes hit Iraqi militiamen in Syria, killing 8 (archive)(post)
Iraq: The Master Of Mayhem Meets A Missile (archive)(post)
Eliminating Qasem Soleimani was Donald Trump’s Middle East farewell letter (archive)(post)
Iran uses BULLDOZERS to clear debris from plane crash site while accusing US of ‘big lie’ that they shot it down (archive)(post)
Swiss Back Channel Helped Defuse U.S.-Iran Crisis (post)

January 11th:
UKRAINIAN AIRCRAFT WAS BROUGHT DOWN IN IRAN DUE TO 'HUMAN ERROR' (archive)(post)
Iran minister says 'human error' caused by 'US adventurism' led to deadly crash of Ukrainian jetliner (archive)(post)
Ukrainian aircraft was brought down in Iran due to 'human error' (archive)(post)
Trump, at Ohio rally, says Democrats would have leaked Soleimani attack plans (archive)(post)
The Atlantic's David Frum blames Trump for downing of plane in Iran, deaths of 176 (archive)(post)
Associated Press changes ‘shockingly bad’ headline about Soleimani, Ukrainian plane crash after backlash (archive)(post)
GOP Rep. Doug Collins apologizes for saying Democrats are 'in love with terrorists' (archive)(post)
Iran demands West 'show findings' as new video reveals aircraft was struck before fiery crash (archive)(post)
Warren town hall interrupted by angry protester accusing her of ‘siding with terrorists’ (archive)(post)
Trump administration announces new sanctions on Iran (archive)(post)
Prepare For the Worst From Iran Cyber Attacks, As DHS Issues Warning: Experts (archive)(post)
Trump tells Fox News' Laura Ingraham 'four embassies' were targeted in imminent threat from Iran (archive)(post)
Trump tweets support for Iranian protesters as they demand Khamenei quit (archive)(post)
Trump warns Iran against ‘another massacre’ as protests flare over downed jet (archive)(post)

January 12th:
Trump tweet in Farsi 'the most liked Persian tweet' in history of Twitter (archive)(post)
Iraq warned to keep US troops or risk financial blow-WSJ (archive)(post)
Iran arrests UK ambassador in what Britain calls ‘flagrant violation of international law’ (archive)(post)

January 13th:
Trump authorized Soleimani's killing 7 months ago, with conditions (archive)(post)

edit: This is a WIP. All links are posted in the order they appear in the thread, not in chronological order of their publication.


---Original OP before the merge---
Iraqi supporters of Iran-backed militia attack US Embassy
https://apnews.com/75228a8a607a44863b57021ac33264dc (http://archive.vn/ljm9Y)

By QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA12 minutes ago

BAGHDAD (AP) — Dozens of angry Iraqi Shiite militia supporters broke into the U.S. Embassy compound in Baghdad on Tuesday after smashing a main door and setting fire to a reception area, prompting tear gas and sounds of gunfire.

An Associated Press reporter at the scene saw flames rising from inside the compound and at least three U.S. soldiers on the roof of the main building inside embassy. It was not clear what caused the fire at the reception area near the parking lot of the compound. A man on a loudspeaker urged the mob not to enter the compound, saying: “The message was delivered.”

The embassy attack followed deadly U.S. airstrikes on Sunday that killed 25 fighters of the Iran-backed militia in Iraq, the Kataeb Hezbollah. The U.S. military said it was in retaliation for last week’s killing of an American contractor in a rocket attack on an Iraqi military base that it had blamed on the militia.

Dozens of protesters marched inside the compound after smashing the gate used by cars to enter the embassy. The protesters, many in militia uniform, stopped in a corridor after about 5 meters (16 feet), and were only about 200 meters away from the main building. Half a dozen U.S. soldiers were seen on the roof of the main building, their guns were pointed at the protesters.

Smoke from the tear gas rose in the area, and at least three of the protesters appeared to have difficulties breathing. It wasn’t immediately known whether the embassy staff had remained inside the main building.

The protesters hanged a poster on the wall: “America is an aggressor.”

Shouting “Down, Down USA,” the crowd tried to push inside the embassy grounds, hurling water and stones over its walls. They raised yellow militia flags and taunted the embassy’s security staff who remained behind the glass windows in the gates’ reception area. They sprayed graffiti on the wall and windows in red in support of the Kataeb Hezbollah militia: “Closed in the name of the resistance.”

Hundreds of angry protesters, some in militia uniforms, set up tents outside the embassy. As tempers rose, the mob set fire to three trailers used by security guards along the embassy wall.

No one was immediately reported hurt in the rampage and security staff had withdrawn to inside the embassy earlier, soon after protesters gathered outside.

The U.S. attack — the largest targeting an Iraqi state-sanctioned militia in recent years — and the subsequent calls by the militia for retaliation, represent a new escalation in the proxy war between the U.S. and Iran playing out in the Middle East.

Tuesday’s attempted embassy storming took place after mourners and supporters held funerals for the militia fighters killed in a Baghdad neighborhood, after which they marched on to the heavily fortified Green Zone and kept walking till they reached the sprawling U.S. Embassy there.

AP journalists then saw the crowd as they tried to scale the walls of the embassy, in what appeared to be an attempt to storm it, shouting “Down, down USA!” and “Death to America” and “Death to Israel.”

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Sunday’s strikes send the message that the U.S. will not tolerate actions by Iran that jeopardize American lives.

The Iranian-backed Iraqi militia had vowed Monday to retaliate for the U.S. military strikes. The attack and vows for revenge raised concerns of new attacks that could threaten American interests in the region.

The U.S. attack also outraged both the militias and the Iraqi government, which said it will reconsider its relationship with the U.S.-led coalition — the first time it has said it will do so since an agreement was struck to keep some U.S. troops in the country. It called the attack a “flagrant violation” of its sovereignty.

In a partly televised meeting Monday, Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi told Cabinet members that he had tried to stop the U.S. operation “but there was insistence” from American officials.

The U.S. military said “precision defensive strikes” were conducted against five sites of Kataeb Hezbollah, or Hezbollah Brigades in Iraq and Syria. The group, which is a separate force from the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah, operates under the umbrella of the state-sanctioned militias known collectively as the Popular Mobilization Forces. Many of them are supported by Iran.

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[Feline Supremacist]

The thing about this situation I find unbelievably disgusting is all the "Americans" who acted as apologists for Soleimani and their hatred of President Trump. Get the impression that these people revel in the thought of American men and women being killed by Iranian actions.

The Democrats and the mainstream media were more understanding and receptive of Soleimani than they ever were to Nick Sandman or Brett Kavanaugh.

It's obvious to even a casual observer. Makes the 2020 elections very difficult for Democrats.

 

[YooA]

20D chess move, Trump scrambles a bunch of jets to panic the Iranians into a trigger happy frenzy.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

F to the commenters trying to steer this thread back on topic - it's been infected with /pol/-lio (I'm sorry don't hurt me)

So what are the outcomes now that Iran said no takesies-backsies with the black box? When someone tries to openly hide something, that's automatic suspicion and you can't tell me otherwise.

Engine failure, my ass.

Timcast vlogged about that Ukrainian plane who crashed in Iran.

One comment gived me some chuckles.

The Other Cat
The mechanics were the same guys who guarded epstein.

 

[mindlessobserver]

*clears throat*

USA GOOD
Rest of the world BAD

Am I right or am I right my fellow US citizens?

You are indeed correct sir. 5 freedom points have been applied to your wells Fargo credit reward account.

 

[Nobunaga]

My current theory on the Ukrainian airliner goes something like this.
“Hey Hassim, do you know how these missile things they gave us work? The radioman says the Americans are about to bomb us!”
”Yeah look. You hold it this way. You look through this thingy at an airplane, and hold this button until it goes”
BEEEEEP!
FWOOOSH!
“Oh Fuck Me On. Camel! Can everybody remember, we were never here! We were cleaning the latrines left handed when this happened! ”

The reality is probably that they pulled a USS Liberty only instead of merely pretending to be retarded like our great ally, they went full retard

 

[JosephStalin]

The chinese and ABCs are buying up property all over the united states. A lot of the action on the coasts has slowed down but now they're coming into the flyover and buying up houses, condos, apartements, and commercial real estate. It's concerning that America allows such willy nilly property purchasing.

But i'm not going to lie, the chinese landlords (abcs) are a little more understanding than the previous jewish consortiums i've had to deal with. For one, they fix shit pretty quickly as opposed to waiting toward the end of the year as legally required.

e:

I should also say that chinese illegals are able to open businesses legally in a few states. They can't work or do any profit making, but they can hire legal employees and then reap the profits and cut themselves a salary. apparently, there's nothing illegal about that.

They're doing what the Japanese did in the 80's and early 90's. They can buy property here but can't ship it back to China. They still need to pay property tax, etc. here. But the Japanese hit the wall and their economy crumped. A number of things the Japanese bought, such as the Pebble Beach Company, got sold back to Americans. Can see the same thing happening with the Chinese. They're already pulling back on certain investments, notably in the entertainment industry.

You've all heard my yap about the problems China has that we should be very happy not to have. In contrast to Japan, I see China as strong, but brittle. Have to wonder how China will weather the next recession, with the housing, credit, and debt bubbles bursting, on top of the demographic bubble. Not sure if China under the CCP is as resilient as Japan was when their economy went south. I give China a great deal of credit for everything they have done since the end of the Cultural Revolution, but there are still major problems.

One side note. Far as I can tell the Chinese don't cause a bunch of problems here. They just want to live here and get along. They don't expect America to change to suit them, unlike certain other "immigrants" and "refugees".

 

[kcbbq]

The chinese and ABCs are buying up property all over the united states. A lot of the action on the coasts has slowed down but now they're coming into the flyover and buying up houses, condos, apartements, and commercial real estate. It's concerning that America allows such willy nilly property purchasing.

But i'm not going to lie, the chinese landlords (abcs) are a little more understanding than the previous jewish consortiums i've had to deal with. For one, they fix shit pretty quickly as opposed to waiting toward the end of the year as legally required.

e:

I should also say that chinese illegals are able to open businesses legally in a few states. They can't work or do any profit making, but they can hire legal employees and then reap the profits and cut themselves a salary. apparently, there's nothing illegal about that.

In the 80s there was the same kind of Chicken Little panic over the Arabs buying property. It's always something and always a nothingburger. It's just a reflection of the fact that the US is an extremely safe and stable place to stash money.

Edit: and as the mustachioed comrade above says, next was the Japs. Now it's China. Next it'll be India or someone else that smells funny.

 

[Skeetles]

Speaking from personal experience in the US Navy, honestly, a lot of our naval force probably would shit the bed if shit actually happened. Morale is very low in the middle east and some of the ships honestly just aren't very well maintained.

Best part is none of that is confidential, businessinformer and shit are straight up just admitting like, "Yeah the Navy is kinda fucked rn".

 

[WonderWino]

Oh hey, a new number!

180.

Wait a minute...... the flight number of the airliner in final destination was 180 as well. Coincidence? I think not

Its all so clear now: its not iran, its death using iran to bring down planes for him. Trump is literally staring down death himself

I'm calling it: iran will beg for there to be no retaliations because 'death made us do it'

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE]

In the 80s there was the same kind of Chicken Little panic over the Arabs buying property. It's always something and always a nothingburger. It's just a reflection of the fact that the US is an extremely safe and stable place to stash money.

Edit: and as the mustachioed comrade above says, next was the Japs. Now it's China. Next it'll be India or someone else that smells funny.

We will take their money and roll in it.

 

[Mikoyan]

Oh good, they merged the good thread with the China dumpsterfire offtopic thread so now it can all burn.

 

[Кот Бегемот]

Timcast vlogged about that Ukrainian plane who crashed in Iran.

One comment gived me some chuckles.

The part I disagree is "serious response" if it's proven that plane was shot down by Iran.

Again, MH17 was shot down with several independent agencies establishing the circumstances and the murder weapon. Most dead were Dutch, but there were more "important" countries like UK and Germany ... crickets. Ukrainian plane had mostly Iranians or Canadians of Iranian descent ... I am not seeing a whole lot of repercussions here.

From the perspective of making a decision to let plane fly right after lobbing a bunch of missiles, that was probably top notch autism. What could go wrong, right?

It would also be interesting to see how Boing will react. With some of their recent plane troubles, the only thing they need now is another plane that spontaneously burst into flames with two dead engines. They still have shareholders to account for, so I bet that they will try fowl at every turn that this "investigation" will take. It will affect their business in a negative way, the matter is only how badly.


I am not going to powerlevel shit, but there also was that incident with Kursk submarine, that supposably sank in part to US subs nearby. The "investigation" very quickly died down into accident and Russia has received some very substantial loans and aid from US very shortly after. I'm just saying, Boing may suddenly get some big order or some cash to keep quiet.

 

[Otterly]

Time will prove me right.

I think there’s definitely a bit of a dip in the road for western culture right now. We are headed for something quite dystopic if we don’t change course. Back when the first blade runner came out the idea of corporate dominated society as portrayed in the film was striking and quite shocking. By the time the sequel came out, that impact was lost, because to a degree, that had happened. If we don’t reign back a bit of corporate control, authoritarianism and general degradation of civil rights, we are screwed.
China is in the ascendent. How far they can go in terms of replacing the USA as dominant superpower I don’t know. I’ve worked a lot with China and India on big clinical research projects and it’s always been a dissatisfying (sometimes scary) experience. India is corrupt beyond belief, hierarchical to the point nothing gets done. You ask for stuff, get told yes and it never happens. No transparency either. I wouldn’t trust any drug manufacturing there or any data. China is somewhat similar. If something fucks up a minion is sacrificed, nothing is learned and you still have the uneasy feeling that you never got to the bottom of it and it’ll happen again. Don’t get me wrong - there are a lot of smart people, and a huge work ethic in China, but there’s still something the West has that they dont. Perhaps a little touch of anarchy, free thought etc? Or perhaps that’s my western bias.
I honestly don’t know what’ll happen with them. I do think that as westerners we do t truly understand how different a society it is.
China has issues. There are issues with environmental degradation, for example. The sheer pace of change and growth brings its own challenges. I honestly don’t know. I have family who do a lot of business there (area unrelated to mine, they do manufacturing) and they are also not sure. It’s a big complex place.
We both agree that we’d rather live in the American version of the world than the Chinese though.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

The part I disagree is "serious response" if it's proven that plane was shot down by Iran.

Again, MH17 was shot down with several independent agencies establishing the circumstances and the murder weapon. Most dead were Dutch, but there were more "important" countries like UK and Germany ... crickets. Ukrainian plane had mostly Iranians or Canadians of Iranian descent ... I am not seeing a whole lot of repercussions here.

From the perspective of making a decision to let plane fly right after lobbing a bunch of missiles, that was probably top notch autism. What could go wrong, right?

It would also be interesting to see how Boing will react. With some of their recent plane troubles, the only thing they need now is another plane that spontaneously burst into flames with two dead engines. They still have shareholders to account for, so I bet that they will try fowl at every turn that this "investigation" will take. It will affect their business in a negative way, the matter is only how badly.


I am not going to powerlevel shit, but there also was that incident with Kursk submarine, that supposably sank in part to US subs nearby. The "investigation" very quickly died down into accident and Russia has received some very substantial loans and aid from US very shortly after. I'm just saying, Boing may suddenly get some big order or some cash to keep quiet.

The Kursk is so horrible an event I can't ever forget it but I have to say a collision with an American boat, while not unheard of, isn't the sole cause of a catastrophic fire that brings down an Oscar class sub in the Barents of all places. I don't think Russia was forthcoming about the cause which is too bad. Some events transcend nations, especially at sea.

 

[Billy_Sama]

This thread arguing is more of a conflict than the WW3 letdown so far.

 

[theshep]

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[bippu_as_fuck_ls400]

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Wouldn't that be mangled in the initial contact with the plane? Strange that it is just laying on the undisturbed ground around it. I would think that falling from thousands of feet would leave some damage to the fins and tear up the ground around it at a bare minimum.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

I am not going to powerlevel shit, but there also was that incident with Kursk submarine, that supposably sank in part to US subs nearby. The "investigation" very quickly died down into accident and Russia has received some very substantial loans and aid from US very shortly after. I'm just saying, Boeing may suddenly get some big order or some cash to keep quiet.

Honestly, I figure the Kursk was an embarrassing own-goal, along the lines of the US Navy's recent mishaps with exceptionally retarded collisions. Didn't the Russians have a couple more recent sub mishaps as well, not long after Kursk?

And if I recall, the Russians declined far more aid & assistance from the West in regards to technical & logistical support than they accepted. Not that I blame them though, on state-secret level, as well as a matter of pride. I'm sure the US Navy would've loved to have been able to blame their fuckups on mechanical faults, and not let slip the fact that Navy seamen were too busy watching hentai or blowing each other in their racks to stand watch.

 

[Leibowitz]

This thread arguing is more of a conflict than the WW3 letdown so far.

Word War 3: CHINA NUMBA ONE.

 

[Кот Бегемот]

Wouldn't that be mangled in the initial contact with the plane? Strange that it is just laying on the undisturbed ground around it. I would think that falling from thousands of feet would leave some damage to the fins and tear up the ground around it at a bare minimum.

MH17 fell out from higher altitude, something like 10k km and I've seen a lot of pics from the crash site. Some people were still strapped in their seats. It was probably has to do with terminal velocity if plane disintegrates in mid air, some parts are not going to plummet as fast as the others. There were even cups that made it down in one piece.

The Kursk is so horrible an event I can't ever forget it but I have to say a collision with an American boat, while not unheard of, isn't the sole cause of a catastrophic fire that brings down an Oscar class sub in the Barents of all places. I don't think Russia was forthcoming about the cause which is too bad. Some events transcend nations, especially at sea.

I can not even hint at the powerlevel here because of family etc ... but just trust me, there was more than collision. As you can lookup, there were tests for new torpedoes that US was very interested in. There were some severe fuck ups that would serve no one to admit. We do know that "payout" was given for no reason to Russian federation and high ranking officials traveling shortly after. This is a case when truth would serve no one, only make ordinary people freak out.

It would be in Iranian interest to admit a mistake, pay out victms and be done with it. Fuck up happens, we don't need any more conspiracy theories.