UK United Kingdom Royal Family / Royal Families Drama General Thread - formerly "Prince Harry and Meghan to step back as senior royals"

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The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have announced they will step back as "senior" royals and work to become financially independent.

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In a statement, Prince Harry and Meghan also said they plan to split their time between the UK and North America.

The BBC understands no other royal - including the Queen or Prince William - was consulted before the statement and Buckingham Palace is "disappointed".

Senior royals are understood to be "hurt" by the announcement.

In their unexpected statement on Wednesday, also posted on their Instagram page, the couple said they made the decision "after many months of reflection and internal discussions".

"We intend to step back as 'senior' members of the Royal Family and work to become financially independent, while continuing to fully support Her Majesty The Queen."

They said they plan to balance their time between the UK and North America while "continuing to honour our duty to the Queen, the Commonwealth, and our patronages".

"This geographic balance will enable us to raise our son with an appreciation for the royal tradition into which he was born, while also providing our family with the space to focus on the next chapter, including the launch of our new charitable entity."

A Buckingham Palace spokeswoman said discussions with the duke and duchess on their decision to step back were "at an early stage", adding: "We understand their desire to take a different approach, but these are complicated issues that will take time to work through."

The couple's announcement on Wednesday comes two months after the Duke of York withdrew from public life after a BBC interview about his ties to sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, who killed himself in August.

 
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Translation: Brenda is annoyed with them, probably as a result of Meghan saying on a charitable tour of Africa that it was all about her and nobody asked her how she was feeling, and after the recent Prince Andrew debacle is in no mood to have a repeat of 1992, so they're being shuffled off somewhere where they can do the hand tragically nailed to the forehead routine and make appearances for charidee but won't have any actual diplomatic function.
 
Oh, this is a flounce. Megan does not like being criticised, does not like the fact she isn't top of the pecking order, has burned a lot of bridges with the Firm, and Harry is an unstable mess easily pushed about by his demanding, fame-driven wife. If they want to opt out of the royal family, my blessing is upon them. Just give up the civil list monies, the houses and the royal protection officers while you're there, eh, luvvies? Let elton ferry you about on his private jet. And please STFU about climate change while you're zipping back and forth from the US to Uk to Africa multiple times a year.

I give the marriage a couple of years max before they part.
 
what exactly is their "duty to the Queen, the Commonwealth, and our patronages" ... not trolling, serious question. Are they expected to do shit, like actually work?

Also, how are they trying to become financially independent? So basically they will not take any taxpayers money and just live out from interest in their bank accounts? They are basically useless, without those titles I'm not sure how they could eek a living unless they sign up on welfare. I am not counting "speaking fees" or "book deals" those always seem to be the cover for some shady money laundering.

I kept saying that Meghan is bad news and people just called me racist.
 
Oh, this is a flounce. Megan does not like being criticised, does not like the fact she isn't top of the pecking order, has burned a lot of bridges with the Firm, and Harry is an unstable mess easily pushed about by his demanding, fame-driven wife. If they want to opt out of the royal family, my blessing is upon them. Just give up the civil list monies, the houses and the royal protection officers while you're there, eh, luvvies? Let elton ferry you about on his private jet. And please STFU about climate change while you're zipping back and forth from the US to Uk to Africa multiple times a year.

I give the marriage a couple of years max before they part.

Meghan is the kind of woman that drives wedges between families.
Harry is lucky he's not biologically a royal, I doubt they care too much if he fucks off with his thot.
 
Meghan also got her wrists slapped for her "unofficial endorsements" business she runs via the SussexRoyal Insta. Meghan never pays for shit, she just wears it/uses it/puts it on Archie and then magically the company who provides the service/goods/etc is instantly all over Instagram touting the 'royal approval'. (H&M fucked up recently by touting that Archie's outfit that day on the South Africa tour was one of their !!new bargains!!... unfortunately, H&M posted this outfit to their Insta before Archie had actually left the house in it. Not subtle, Meggie Megs) Every service provider at the infamous New York baby shower posted photos of the goods, food, decoration etc actually in situ at the venue on the day of the baby shower. Rich folks generally expect - and pay for - discretion. That kind of social media touting is a 100% guarantee that the goods/services were not paid for and were traded for endorsement.

This Insta grifting is what occupies nearly all of Meghan's time. The rest is spent setting up the new and interestingly opaque Sussex Royal Foundation. The UK has some pretty hefty transparency laws around charitable foundations, so expect this one to be established in the US where there will be significantly less ability to see who exactly is putting money into this foundation and where exactly the money from it goes. You will remember the questions asked about the opacity of the Clinton Foundation. The Sussex Royal Foundation will put even that in the shade.

There are strict rules surrounding royal endorsements and the ability of royals to accept gifts and cash in return for publicity for exactly this reason: to prevent a grifter like Meghan running this exact sort of side business. This business is worth - at this point - probably millions to Meghan. An endorsement by HRH Duchess of Sparkle - even if it's a nod and wink Insta endorsement - sells extremely well in the US. Meghan is a very old hand indeed at PR and selling herself. The line that they are "working to become financially independent" is a straight up announcement that HRH Duchess Meghan LLC is open for business now. Send the check and Archie will wear your shitty overalls just as soon as it clears.

Meghan cannot stay within the Family and monetise her royal status to any worthwhile degree. Getting one and a half feet outside the camp though? She absolutely can. She can print money if she can get herself free of those pesky royal protocols, and lo and behold she has, bringing the exceptional ginger whinger with her.

The reason for picking Canada over the US is that they remain senior members of the Canadian Royal Family whether they do 'royal work' or not... meaning the Canadian Government is on the hook for all of their housing and security expenses. Meghan doesn't want to be paying for those herself in California, no sirree.
 
what exactly is their "duty to the Queen, the Commonwealth, and our patronages" ... not trolling, serious question. Are they expected to do shit, like actually work?

Also, how are they trying to become financially independent? So basically they will not take any taxpayers money and just live out from interest in their bank accounts? They are basically useless, without those titles I'm not sure how they could eek a living unless they sign up on welfare. I am not counting "speaking fees" or "book deals" those always seem to be the cover for some shady money laundering.

I kept saying that Meghan is bad news and people just called me racist.
She's been a disaster right from that joke of a wedding to the lol worthy name for their kid. I said that she would be new Wallace Simpson and completely screw up Harry's relationship with his family, and so it is.

You have to be built for it or stupid enough to marry into the royal family. Can't take a shit without permission to do so and without having someone report on and criticise you for doing it incorrectly. Something tells me Markle falls hard on the "stupid" side of the scale and learned the hard way. Harry is a dumb fuck for marrying this broad. Could have fucked her like everyone else, had to marry her instead.
 
what exactly is their "duty to the Queen, the Commonwealth, and our patronages" ... not trolling, serious question. Are they expected to do shit, like actually work?

They're expected to do royal duties like opening things, offocial tours to mantain relationships with the Commonwealth and they all generally are patrons of various charities which involved whatever patrons do, like speeches and generally, making the cause more high profile.

Also, how are they trying to become financially independent? So basically they will not take any taxpayers money and just live out from interest in their bank accounts? They are basically useless, without those titles I'm not sure how they could eek a living unless they sign up on welfare. I am not counting "speaking fees" or "book deals" those always seem to be the cover for some shady money laundering.

Megan is a lot higher profile than she was as a C-list actress on Suits, a show I never even heard of until it was all over the press because of her and Harry. She could probably get US fluff media work of some kind on the basis of her titles and increased fame now if not acting work. Harry, fuck knows, but people with connections always find a way, no matter how dim they are. In reality, he'll take the civil list money anyway. Megan's the one who needs to think about earning, given she will not last in the job of royal wife and she clearly has ultra-expensive tastes and a lifestyle to which she is now accustomed.

I kept saying that Meghan is bad news and people just called me racist.

I had no issue with her as long as she didn't break the cardinal rule and start getting political in the role, which of course she did, right out of the gate, because she is a social-climbing egotist who is aggressive enough to shove her way into royal circles via its dumbest eligable member, but too dumb to truly understand the culture, let alone royal culture and what she is playing against. she wanted to bea superstar and the star of the show, because of course she does, she's from a backround of seeking fame and celebrity. She is clearly pissed her stupid stunts with Vogue and lecturing the masses on climate change while wafting around on private jets got the criticism they deserved. Seems she thought being half-black and woke was all she needed to win hearts and minds forever. If she had a brain in her head she would know the cycle ; the press builds you up and then rips you down. You deal with that or you don't marry into those circles where your life is public fodder.

The writing was on the wall re: both Megan's control over Harry and her ambitions when she barred some of Harry's oldest friends who've known him since his schooldays from their reception and in their place invited all the A-List US slebs who would never have given her the time of day before she hooked up with a royal. Then there was tiaragate, which was a shot over the bows from the Firm. 'What Megan wants, Megan gets!" wailed Harry as his grandmother refused to let his actress wife wear the emerald tiara of her choice that was reserved for a princess of the blood's wedding (one which megan then tried to hijack the PR for with her pregnancy anouncement). Says everything about him, and her.
 
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They're expected to do royal duties like opening things, offocial tours to mantain relationships with the Commonwealth and they all generally are patrons of various charities which involved whatever patrons do, like speeches and generally, making the cause more high profile.



Megan is a lot higher profile than she was as a C-list actress on Suits, a show I never even heard of until it was all over the press because of her and Harry. She could probably get US fluff media work of some kind on the basis of her titles and increased fame now if not acting work. Harry, fuck knows, but people with connections always find a way, no matter how dim they are. In reality, he'll take the civil list money anyway. Megan's the one who needs to think about earning, given she will not last in the job of royal wife and she clearly has ultra-expensive tastes and a lifestyle to which she is now accustomed.



I had no issue with her as long as she didn't break the cardinal rule and start getting political in the role, which of course she did, right out of the gate, because she is a social-climbing egotist who is aggressive enough to shove her way into royal circles via its dumbest eligable member, but too dumb to truly understand the culture, let alone royal culture and what she is playing against. she wanted to bea superstar and the star of the show, because of course she does, she's from a backround of seeking fame and celebrity. She is clearly pissed her stupid stunts with Vogue and lecturing the masses on climate change while wafting around on private jets got the criticism they deserved. Seems she thought being half-black and woke was all she needed to win hearts and minds forever. If she had a brain in her head she would know the cycle ; the press builds you up and then rips you down. You deal with that or you don't marry into those circles where your life is public fodder.

Plus, let's look at Meghan's comparator in the role, her sister in law HRH Kate.

Kate as the wife of the second in line to the throne, and therefore future Queen and wife and mother of future Kings, has three jobs.

1 - Breed more royals
2 - Never ever fucking embarrass the Family and especially the Queen in any way whatsoever
3 - Look pretty and act personable in public

Kate is really fucking good at her job. She has produced three kids who are good looking and well mannered in public, she is extremely well dressed (but not TOO expensively), is received with apparent delight at all her public engagements, and she and her family are smart fucking people and never ever put a toe out of line. Kate being smart cancelled the Cambridges' arrangements to go on the big Middleton family holiday in the Caribbean over the festive period in order "to support the Queen", i.e. to close the ranks of the Family around the elderly lady with a very elderly husband in hospital and son who ought to be in the jail. Kate understands her role.

Meghan mouthed off continually about "shaping her role" and "bringing her own stamp". Girl, the accepted parameters of the role of royal bride in the British monarchy were set before America was even fucking colonised. There was no room for deviation. You were supposed to stay thin, get pregnant, and keep your damned mouth shut. In return, you would not get to be the Queen because you were marrying the spare. This is essentially not a great offer, and this is why both Chelsey Davy and Cressida Bonas dumped Harry and ran for the hills.

This isn't about racism. This is about Meghan being shit at her job, same way Fergie was. At least Fergie was a good laugh, Meghan is a po faced bint.
 
Meghan also got her wrists slapped for her "unofficial endorsements" business she runs via the SussexRoyal Insta. Meghan never pays for shit, she just wears it/uses it/puts it on Archie and then magically the company who provides the service/goods/etc is instantly all over Instagram touting the 'royal approval'. (H&M fucked up recently by touting that Archie's outfit that day on the South Africa tour was one of their !!new bargains!!... unfortunately, H&M posted this outfit to their Insta before Archie had actually left the house in it. Not subtle, Meggie Megs) Every service provider at the infamous New York baby shower posted photos of the goods, food, decoration etc actually in situ at the venue on the day of the baby shower. Rich folks generally expect - and pay for - discretion. That kind of social media touting is a 100% guarantee that the goods/services were not paid for and were traded for endorsement.

The greed as well as the pure tackiness of all this is astounding, really. Married to Harry, as long as she stays married she's set for life without any of this shit. She has everything provided for her a reasonable person could want, and more. clothes, jewels, beautiful accomodations, travel, she'll want for nothing nor will her child. She's not reasonable though, she clearly wants to compete with the flashy billionaire set. Kylie Jenner is probably her role model. The Queen is actually pretty thrifty and it must really gall Markle's nouveau riche sensibilities dealing with that as opposed to running around money-grubbing and spending wildly. This tacky Insta-shill shit that is pretty much below even a Beckham these days. There are footballers' wives with more tact and class than Markle.

This Insta grifting is what occupies nearly all of Meghan's time. The rest is spent setting up the new and interestingly opaque Sussex Royal Foundation. The UK has some pretty hefty transparency laws around charitable foundations, so expect this one to be established in the US where there will be significantly less ability to see who exactly is putting money into this foundation and where exactly the money from it goes. You will remember the questions asked about the opacity of the Clinton Foundation. The Sussex Royal Foundation will put even that in the shade.

It's interesting how the original plan was for them to share a charity with William and Kate. That clearly went to the wall, and I wonder if it wasn't just because Megan blotted her copybook with Kate early on. Perhaps they saw what Sparkles wanted and was getting up to financially elsewhere and were advised to break off any financial relationship lest they get splashed with shit when it inevitably hits the fan.
 
The greed as well as the pure tackiness of all this is astounding, really. Married to Harry, as long as she stays married she's set for life without any of this shit. She has everything provided for her a reasonable person could want, and more. clothes, jewels, beautiful accomodations, travel, she'll want for nothing nor will her child. She's not reasonable though, she clearly wants to compete with the flashy billionaire set.

She knew what she was getting into and was explicitly warned.
You want to "be different" as a royal, she only had to look at what happened to her mother-in-law.
Diana was one of them (she was born on the Sandringham estate) and still lost her HRH and the only reason she got the settlement that she did was because she produced the heir.

Anyone else that leaves their job doesn't continue to get paid and nor should they.


Meghan and her ass patters love to play the race card but sure was keen on passing at Northwestern and when she started her so called acting career.
 
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