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HighwayStar said:
When you become a vicious, bitter cunt who takes sick pleasure of hurting a man while cashing in on the success he gave you, it’s hard for any rational person to sympathize with you.
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TexOffender said:
The only damn thing she's known for is her role on star trek continues. Seems like she's peaked thanks to Vic.
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She's cashing in on her role in STC right now. She's going to be on a #womeninscifi panel at some con which is quite ironic considering that a man wrote her role in STC, the same man wrote the entire show AND built the entire set.

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Almost distasteful for her to be on a panel like that. She didn't really contribute anything to Sci-fi, she only hopped on Vic's dick and therefore got a role in his show.
 
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theworstkindofeurofag said:
She's cashing in on her role in STC right now. She's going to be on a #womeninscifi panel at some con which is quite ironic considering that a man wrote her role in STC, the same man wrote the entire show AND built the entire set.
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The set was originally built for another Star Trek fan film production, Starship Farragut. It was purchased and expanded by Star Trek Continues. Vic co-wrote a few episodes and provided story ideas for some others.
 
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theworstkindofeurofag said:
She's cashing in on her role in STC right now. She's going to be on a #womeninscifi panel at some con which is quite ironic considering that a man wrote her role in STC, the same man wrote the entire show AND built the entire set.

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Almost distasteful for her to be on a panel like that. She didn't really contribute anything to Sci-fi, she only hopped on Vic's dick and therefore got a role in his show.
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I feel like if she wants to ride his coattails then she should ride them right up into the doxemon beside him.
 
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As far as the cheating

1) I recall Nick implying the relationship was all but dead at that time. That might be a bit of spin. Idk. Does anyone have a timeline from engagement to cheating to breakup? I don't think she knew at the time of breakup. And if the time between cheating and breakup is relatively short, Nick may be correct.

2) Cheating on a fiancee, if it was only once and you are allegedly repentant about it, doesn't put him at the very bottom of the list of fidelity. Not really sure it puts him in the bottom quarter, even. Let's say I don't really have a lot of faith in that average person's faithfulness. My bar for unforgivable is do you have children together. Not actually going forward with the marriage probably worked out for the best as well.
 
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LuNaS said:
Could a defendant sue their attorney if they have a nervous breakdown during their case?

Because Lemon seems to be on the verge of one, either that or the mosquito did more neurological damage than the amount that was advertised.
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You have to also consider the possibility that Lemon was probably always like this.
 
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Roland Daggett said:
If I'm remembering right I believe Erimin has stated that Vic's frustrations with con staff was usually due to them not fulfilling promises, them being awful, and even them trying to sabotage him. So it seems that without any proof of Vic being bad to con staff for no reason, there does seem to be reasons for him to get mad. As nice as Vic is it's hard to blame him for being mad if con staff were out there trying to screw with him.

And yeah I know what being cheated on feels like which was why I was sympathetic to Michelle at first, but she turned out to be so unlikable I sympathize with the guy who cheated on her.
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I am sure a lot of people jumped on the bandwagon when people said that Vic was a pedo, I was on that bandwagon for a short while but I asked both side for the full story before coming to a judgement and when I asked Kick Vic, they sperged out. This is why it's important to have a healthy level of skepticism because people are gonna get suckered into believing liars that play on emotion like Kick Vic tried to.


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I guess I'm the kind of person who thinks "that's none of my business" when it comes to cheating. Especially when you realize they ain't even married. Yeah, it was bad but I find it ridiculous you would hold it against him. They were in a committed relationship and Vic probably was frustrated with it wanting and found someone else he swayed with and that happened. It isnt like there were kids or a splitting of wealth in the midst of it. This is why people wait a long period of time before getting married. Stuff like this happens.

And as much of a wonderful person Specht is, Vic was in the wrong there. I have a guy at work who is still dealing with their ex 20 years later because she was that spiteful. She makes Specht look tame. Also seen exes that stayed good friends. I'm certainly talking to the wrong crowd but we really shouldn't be arbiters on that topic since we barely know the story to begin with.

As for Vic, I assume he's done stuff he regrets. He's human like the rest of us. I'd assume he is faithful from religion and has a slightly cleaner sheet than the average human but not by much. I could see him being aggravated by con staff because bloody hell I imagine it is like watching monkeys do everything but what you ask them to do. It probably can get frustrating. It is really hard not to be an ass to people.

As for all the rumors, I know Nick, myself, and most Kiwis connected the dots to figure it all out what really went on during these cons with all these eye witnesses. I'm also sure a third of these people who made up stories would go back in line to see Vic again. Lot of them were having stupid mindless fun not intending Vic to be put in the hot seat. For the ones that are out to get Vic...look no further than the doxedex. Because goddamn they have all kinds of weird or shady stuff written in their history.
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Yeah ain't right which is why I initially felt Vic was completely in the wrong, but given what the fuck has been happening and all, it just made him look like a victim despite this being one of the few fuck ups of his where he does not deserve any sympathy. But then I saw how Specht has been a complete parasite and alongside the fact she's in bed with KV members that insult rape victims, that's when I saw she crossed the line. What Vic did was wrong but it's a case of the lesser of two evils, not one is right or wrong in this case.

As for the third of the fans that would still see Vic after making up fucked up story about him, I know it's kicking the hornets nest when you insult the fans but these fans fucking deserve to be called out for being the two-faced spastics that just want attention. They are the part of the fandom that IS toxic and complete scum.


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These are from 10+ years ago... so take that for what you will. You can do a lot of work in that time ;)

And the cherry on top: “ Rules for thee and not for me” THIS ONE IS THE BEST
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ABSOLUTELY FUCKING HARAM.
 
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As far as the cheating

1) I recall Nick implying the relationship was all but dead at that time. That might be a bit of spin. Idk. Does anyone have a timeline from engagement to cheating to breakup? I don't think she knew at the time of breakup. And if the time between cheating and breakup is relatively short, Nick may be correct.

2) Cheating on a fiancee, if it was only once and you are allegedly repentant about it, doesn't put him at the very bottom of the list of fidelity. Not really sure it puts him in the bottom quarter, even. Let's say I don't really have a lot of faith in that average person's faithfulness. My bar for unforgivable is do you have children together. Not actually going forward with the marriage probably worked out for the best as well.
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Vic and Michele were engaged from 2013-2018 (their relationship was much older than that, though).
 
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giraffes on coffee said:
I've spent a year, (yes I have no life) scouring YouTube watching every Vic panel and meet and greet I could find. It's so bad that YT's recommendations are giving me old 2006 flip phone videos shot in glorious 144p of Vic doing a goofy voice for 20 seconds.

I've gone through it all. There's nothing there. There's nothing to find.

And no, a bad joke at a cosplay contest doesn't count.
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KV would often try to misinterpret those videos as proof that he was inappropriate with his fans. I remember seeing those old videos back in 2007-2008 when I was actually in high school because I also heard rumors about him "being an asshole" at conventions. Everything I saw didn't exactly match up with the accusations and it was clear to me that the girls in those videos were very excited to meet Vic.
 
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Nontransferable said:
In the I Hate My 30's show, Michele plays a crazy, obsessive woman who is desperate for a man.

edit: I thought she looked a little too old to be playing thirtysomething, but it turns out that she was 33 when this was filmed.
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Maybe she has just been a method actor for the past decade, learning how to play a crazy obsessed woman this whole time.
 
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anyone else notice that (natch) J-ADOLF got the lyrics wrong? - all 3 times that the lyrics come near to the line he quotes it's NOT what he thinks.

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