War Iran-United States Military Crisis of 2020 - US Baghdad embassy under siege, rocket fire in US Baghdad green zone, Ukrainian Airlines flight 752 crash, and more!

January 10th:
Exclusive: Informants in Iraq, Syria helped U.S. kill Iran's Soleimani - sources (archive)(post)
Iraqi Shia cleric whose militia killed American troops says crisis is over following Iran strike and Trump speech (archive)(post)
Iraqi PM tells US to decide mechanism for troop withdrawal (archive)(post)
Mike Pence says Congress might 'compromise sources and methods' if fully briefed on the Soleimani strike (archive)(post)
Unidentified planes hit Iraqi militiamen in Syria, killing 8 (archive)(post)
Iraq: The Master Of Mayhem Meets A Missile (archive)(post)
Eliminating Qasem Soleimani was Donald Trump’s Middle East farewell letter (archive)(post)
Iran uses BULLDOZERS to clear debris from plane crash site while accusing US of ‘big lie’ that they shot it down (archive)(post)
Swiss Back Channel Helped Defuse U.S.-Iran Crisis (post)

January 11th:
UKRAINIAN AIRCRAFT WAS BROUGHT DOWN IN IRAN DUE TO 'HUMAN ERROR' (archive)(post)
Iran minister says 'human error' caused by 'US adventurism' led to deadly crash of Ukrainian jetliner (archive)(post)
Ukrainian aircraft was brought down in Iran due to 'human error' (archive)(post)
Trump, at Ohio rally, says Democrats would have leaked Soleimani attack plans (archive)(post)
The Atlantic's David Frum blames Trump for downing of plane in Iran, deaths of 176 (archive)(post)
Associated Press changes ‘shockingly bad’ headline about Soleimani, Ukrainian plane crash after backlash (archive)(post)
GOP Rep. Doug Collins apologizes for saying Democrats are 'in love with terrorists' (archive)(post)
Iran demands West 'show findings' as new video reveals aircraft was struck before fiery crash (archive)(post)
Warren town hall interrupted by angry protester accusing her of ‘siding with terrorists’ (archive)(post)
Trump administration announces new sanctions on Iran (archive)(post)
Prepare For the Worst From Iran Cyber Attacks, As DHS Issues Warning: Experts (archive)(post)
Trump tells Fox News' Laura Ingraham 'four embassies' were targeted in imminent threat from Iran (archive)(post)
Trump tweets support for Iranian protesters as they demand Khamenei quit (archive)(post)
Trump warns Iran against ‘another massacre’ as protests flare over downed jet (archive)(post)

January 12th:
Trump tweet in Farsi 'the most liked Persian tweet' in history of Twitter (archive)(post)
Iraq warned to keep US troops or risk financial blow-WSJ (archive)(post)
Iran arrests UK ambassador in what Britain calls ‘flagrant violation of international law’ (archive)(post)

January 13th:
Trump authorized Soleimani's killing 7 months ago, with conditions (archive)(post)

edit: This is a WIP. All links are posted in the order they appear in the thread, not in chronological order of their publication.


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Iraqi supporters of Iran-backed militia attack US Embassy
https://apnews.com/75228a8a607a44863b57021ac33264dc (http://archive.vn/ljm9Y)

By QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA12 minutes ago

BAGHDAD (AP) — Dozens of angry Iraqi Shiite militia supporters broke into the U.S. Embassy compound in Baghdad on Tuesday after smashing a main door and setting fire to a reception area, prompting tear gas and sounds of gunfire.

An Associated Press reporter at the scene saw flames rising from inside the compound and at least three U.S. soldiers on the roof of the main building inside embassy. It was not clear what caused the fire at the reception area near the parking lot of the compound. A man on a loudspeaker urged the mob not to enter the compound, saying: “The message was delivered.”

The embassy attack followed deadly U.S. airstrikes on Sunday that killed 25 fighters of the Iran-backed militia in Iraq, the Kataeb Hezbollah. The U.S. military said it was in retaliation for last week’s killing of an American contractor in a rocket attack on an Iraqi military base that it had blamed on the militia.

Dozens of protesters marched inside the compound after smashing the gate used by cars to enter the embassy. The protesters, many in militia uniform, stopped in a corridor after about 5 meters (16 feet), and were only about 200 meters away from the main building. Half a dozen U.S. soldiers were seen on the roof of the main building, their guns were pointed at the protesters.

Smoke from the tear gas rose in the area, and at least three of the protesters appeared to have difficulties breathing. It wasn’t immediately known whether the embassy staff had remained inside the main building.

The protesters hanged a poster on the wall: “America is an aggressor.”

Shouting “Down, Down USA,” the crowd tried to push inside the embassy grounds, hurling water and stones over its walls. They raised yellow militia flags and taunted the embassy’s security staff who remained behind the glass windows in the gates’ reception area. They sprayed graffiti on the wall and windows in red in support of the Kataeb Hezbollah militia: “Closed in the name of the resistance.”

Hundreds of angry protesters, some in militia uniforms, set up tents outside the embassy. As tempers rose, the mob set fire to three trailers used by security guards along the embassy wall.

No one was immediately reported hurt in the rampage and security staff had withdrawn to inside the embassy earlier, soon after protesters gathered outside.

The U.S. attack — the largest targeting an Iraqi state-sanctioned militia in recent years — and the subsequent calls by the militia for retaliation, represent a new escalation in the proxy war between the U.S. and Iran playing out in the Middle East.

Tuesday’s attempted embassy storming took place after mourners and supporters held funerals for the militia fighters killed in a Baghdad neighborhood, after which they marched on to the heavily fortified Green Zone and kept walking till they reached the sprawling U.S. Embassy there.

AP journalists then saw the crowd as they tried to scale the walls of the embassy, in what appeared to be an attempt to storm it, shouting “Down, down USA!” and “Death to America” and “Death to Israel.”

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Sunday’s strikes send the message that the U.S. will not tolerate actions by Iran that jeopardize American lives.

The Iranian-backed Iraqi militia had vowed Monday to retaliate for the U.S. military strikes. The attack and vows for revenge raised concerns of new attacks that could threaten American interests in the region.

The U.S. attack also outraged both the militias and the Iraqi government, which said it will reconsider its relationship with the U.S.-led coalition — the first time it has said it will do so since an agreement was struck to keep some U.S. troops in the country. It called the attack a “flagrant violation” of its sovereignty.

In a partly televised meeting Monday, Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi told Cabinet members that he had tried to stop the U.S. operation “but there was insistence” from American officials.

The U.S. military said “precision defensive strikes” were conducted against five sites of Kataeb Hezbollah, or Hezbollah Brigades in Iraq and Syria. The group, which is a separate force from the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah, operates under the umbrella of the state-sanctioned militias known collectively as the Popular Mobilization Forces. Many of them are supported by Iran.









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Remember when you were younger and you thought that adults were smart and always had a rational and well-reasoned purpose behind the things that they did and the choices that they made? That would have been nice, huh? Then again, I'm not an Elvis buff. Maybe he built IEDs in his spare time and this is actually an apt comparison.
This is one of the stupid comparison I have ever heard in my life. I mean the assassination of an Iranian general isn't comparable with the deaths of a singer and of a princess, unlike the assassinations of Gaddafi and Osama.
 
Lionizing a terrorist in the same sentence as a beloved musician and a member of British royalty.

That take is so bad it's almost a shame to waste a bullet shooting it in the head.

Especially given Diana and Elvis were household names / global stars and icons and until he got splattered, 99%+ of folk currently salty and crying about the cunt (excluding actual Iranians) couldn't have told you who Soleimani was or what country he was from or ID'd him with a gun held to their thick heads. Bit like with the Khashoggi fellow people got exercised about and lionized as some beautiful freedom fighter for truth and justice despite the fact he was an ex-Saudi Royal Family henchman with recently developed hardline Muslim Brotherhood politics which were what got him killed.

I will also bet you that the same people currently crying about him will have forgotten his name and why they were mad at all by this time next year.
 
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Remember when you were younger and you thought that adults were smart and always had a rational and well-reasoned purpose behind the things that they did and the choices that they made? That would have been nice, huh? Then again, I'm not an Elvis buff. Maybe he built IEDs in his spare time and this is actually an apt comparison.
Well of course, why do you think he got so annoyed his girl kept writing "Return to Sender" on his letters? He was trying to mail bomb the bitch way before the Unabomber.
 
This is one of the stupid comparison I have ever heard in my life. I mean the assassination of an Iranian general isn't comparable with the deaths of a singer and of a princess, unlike the assassinations of Gaddafi and Osama.
Imagine having a loonier analogy for this guy than Ethan Ralph (he merely compared him to Patton, who was at least famous for similar reasons)!
 
I applaud this Florida Kang for using his 2nd amendment rights to stop tyranny.

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A Florida security guard is accused of threatening to kill President Trump in retaliation for a U.S. airstrike that killed Iran’s top military general last Friday.

Chauncy Lump, 26, from the Fort Lauderdale area, faces federal charges of threatening to kill the president and remained jailed Thursday with bond set at $100,000, according to court documents filed Wednesday by the Secret Service.

Agent Lucas White wrote that shortly after Trump announced last week that a U.S. airstrike had killed Qassem Soleimani in Iraq in retaliation for plotting numerous terrorist attacks, Lump, under the name "BlackMan vs. America," began livestreaming a seven-minute video on Facebook.

During that video, agents say Lump made several threats against the president – who was staying at his Mar-a-Lago club, less than an hour away – while periodically displaying a loaded AK-47 semi-automatic rifle.

Lump had white cream on his face, a towel wrapped like a turban on his head, an apparent shower curtain over his body and Middle Eastern music playing in the background, White wrote of the video that Facebook reported to the authorities on Friday.

Lump made several threats against the president, including: "He killed my leader, please tell me where is Donald Trump?" and "I need to find the Donald because if I don't find him, I am going to have to blow up Broward County," White wrote.

The affidavit does not say where Lump works as a security guard, but it says he has a concealed weapons permit.

When confronted early Saturday at his home, Lump said he streamed the video in response to Soleimani's death, but said it was a joke, White wrote. But nowhere in the video did Lump say he was joking and conceded, "I should not have did it in the first place," White wrote.

It wasn’t immediately clear if Lump has an attorney who could comment on his behalf.
Free my nigga Lump. No jokes, no justice.
 
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The whole thing was kabuki theatre so that Tehran could save face.

Yup. Soleimani got caught making trouble and caught a Hellfire for it. Iran knows and understands this. And doesn’t want to go to war over it. But has to try and “save face”. And is doing so in such a typically middle eastern way. Such as shooting down a friendly civilian airliner taking off from their own capital.

Lol @ thinking Iran could hit the airbase with Ballistic Missiles but somehow know where people are so as not to cause any casualties. They aren't that good bro.

They absolutely intended to kill people. There's no way these camel fuckers knew that the buildings/tents they hit were uninhabited. In any case they look like incompetent r etards and Trump dabbed all over them by offering a way out

trying to keep up with this collided shit show and starting to give up. Any story about Iran not REALLY launching an attack are quickly debunked by the fact their missiles left impact craters. You don't launch missiles, especially unreliable ones like Iran has, with live warheads to "send a message".

Its propaganda for home, where they were swirling stories about 50 US deaths.

The response was as limited as it was only because:
1) The cash Obama dropped on the Tehran runaway would only buy them so many missles
2) they need to hold back enough for a deterent.
and a little bit of 3) they needed to make sure it wasn't going to give the US an excuse to turn them into Iraq on Desert Storm Day 2.
 
I guess since Trump didn't drop the Spears of Freedom that people are making conspiracies that Iran tipped America off. It reminded of how Iraqis though Obama was in cahoots with ISIS because he wouldn't roll out the B-52s to truly bomb them back to the prehistoric dinosaur age.

To be fair when Trump said he would bomb the shit out of isis, everyone thought world War 2 era carpet bombings. So I guess people in general surprised at this low key resolution of high key expectations by his actions.
 
I guess since Trump didn't drop the Spears of Freedom that people are making conspiracies that Iran tipped America off. It reminded of how Iraqis though Obama was in cahoots with ISIS because he wouldn't roll out the B-52s to truly bomb them back to the prehistoric dinosaur age.

To be fair when Trump said he would bomb the shit out of isis, everyone thought world War 2 era carpet bombings. So I guess people in general surprised at this low key resolution of high key expectations by his actions.

Which is funny because Trump still acts like a businessman even now. Sure, he'll put on a dramatic show, but when it's time to do actual work he gets that done as quietly and quickly as possible, often doing what's needed but little else.

His showman persona is just that, but both his fan and detractors seem to forget that constantly.
 
trying to keep up with this collided shit show and starting to give up. Any story about Iran not REALLY launching an attack are quickly debunked by the fact their missiles left impact craters. You don't launch missiles, especially unreliable ones like Iran has, with live warheads to "send a message".

Its propaganda for home, where they were swirling stories about 50 US deaths.

The response was as limited as it was only because:
1) The cash Obama dropped on the Tehran runaway would only buy them so many missles
2) they need to hold back enough for a deterent.
and a little bit of 3) they needed to make sure it wasn't going to give the US an excuse to turn them into Iraq on Desert Storm Day 2.

The main sign that the attack from Iran was not serious is Iran called Iraq and the US and told them they were shooting the missiles ahead of time. And where they were firing them at. "Ummm could you please maybe stand elsewhere, we really don't want to piss you off anyfurther. We just need to do something or our people will rip us apart. So we all good now, okay? Please don't bomb us!"

Shooting down the Airliner was pretty obviously stupidity in the stress of the moment. I don't think anybody believes that Iran deliberately took down an airliner. This seems to be somewhat similar to what happened in Ukraine with the Indonesian Airliner. Somebody probably was playing with the SAM's radar system, tracking things, not realizing that the tracking and launch is somewhat automatic.
 
The main sign that the attack from Iran was not serious is Iran called Iraq and the US and told them they were shooting the missiles ahead of time. And where they were firing them at. "Ummm could you please maybe stand elsewhere, we really don't want to piss you off anyfurther. We just need to do something or our people will rip us apart. So we all good now, okay? Please don't bomb us!"

Shooting down the Airliner was pretty obviously stupidity in the stress of the moment. I don't think anybody believes that Iran deliberately took down an airliner. This seems to be somewhat similar to what happened in Ukraine with the Indonesian Airliner. Somebody probably was playing with the SAM's radar system, tracking things, not realizing that the tracking and launch is somewhat automatic.

Iran called Iraq ahead of time because they had to, otherwise it would basically be declaring war via sneak attack, especially if, allah forbid, one of them went off course.


Just going off of how this shit normally goes, my guess is that the SAM sites are restricted airspace when on high alert, but no one updated the airspace designation to ATC or the pilots.
 
The real problem seems to be Omar.

However, Nobody is forcing Cortez to repeatedly jump on grenades to save her friend from her own delusional comments. She's like a dog eating it's own vomit at this point.

Honestly, jumping on grenades for friends does show some semblance of character, now if she wasnt so damn stupid. AOC seems to me less corrupt and more absolute idiot, the problem is idiot can cause more damage.
 
Remember when you were younger and you thought that adults were smart and always had a rational and well-reasoned purpose behind the things that they did and the choices that they made?

Uh...

No, actually. I always thought everyone around me was stupid including the guy in the mirror.
 
If we had a fairly precise approximation of the location of the plane at impact with the missile, and some rough specifications for the missile itself, it would actually pretty easy to figure it out from the video, since you could use the time between missile launch, and impact to get an estimate of distance. Once you knew the distance from the observer to plane, and launch site to plane, the only missing point is distance between observer and launch site, which can be solved pretty simply.

For instance, subtracting about .2 miles from the distance of the observer to impact (to account roughly for altitude adding to the distance), and then assuming the missile was launched 1 mile away from the plane, it would mean the launch site was about 2 miles away from the observer if I calculated it correctly.

When did this turn into chan ?
 
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Well lads I have a theory. THat being the Iranian did Not know that it was a civilian plane becuase the Iranian hand shit down all communications and frequencies to only their specific secret radio frequency to prevent the Americans disrupting irbid becuase the Iranians were on edge and expected a US counter attack. I think this wouldn't likely be what had happened.

I would like to remind you of how America shot down a Iranian plane in 1988 becuase they didn't know it was since their info being relayed to them was inadequate and they made the wrong decisions. It was a repeat of that
 
Iran didn't aim 20 ballistic missiles at dirt, that's stupid even if it does benefit us to propagate that story. They launched them aiming to kill, and we shot them all down because their tech sucks and there's leaks everywhere between Iran and Iraq. This story is just to let Iran save some face.
 
I would like to remind you of how America shot down a Iranian plane in 1988 becuase they didn't know it was since their info being relayed to them was inadequate and they made the wrong decisions. It was a repeat of that

We were talking about IR655 and the Vicennes days ago, before the Ukrainian plane was shot down, if you read the thread.
 
We were talking about IR655 and the Vicennes days ago, before the Ukrainian plane was shot down, if you read the thread.
Well that was well before the ballistic missiles shit and I was not being bothered to read that far back. Not only that but I'm merely stating it is a repeat of IR655 since the shot down has had happened
 
Iran didn't aim 20 ballistic missiles at dirt, that's stupid even if it does benefit us to propagate that story. They launched them aiming to kill, and we shot them all down because their tech sucks and there's leaks everywhere between Iran and Iraq. This story is just to let Iran save some face.
They literally told the US where they were aiming before they fired. It's just like what trump did with Syria.

Blue Team can chest pump to their base about being bad ass motherfuckers who won't put up with no shit, Red Team can can chuckle to their base about Blue Team being shit and how their tantrum achieved nothing. Meanwhile suddenly the tension behind the scenes is reduced and allows for either the adults to start talking or for the same childish games as before to resume but without several million 'people' demanding nukes be launched at the meany pantses half a world away.

Unfortunately Iran is fucking retarded and also shot down an airliner which just makes the situation impossible to read.
 
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