WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game

[strandedcastaway]

Guys, calm the fuck down. What evidence is there that this is even him? That the name matches his Twitter handle? If I make a WWE Champions account named realDonaldTrump does that make me President of the United States?

The major pieces of evidence towards it being DSP are:
1) You have to spend thousands or tens of thousands of dollars to get to the level in the game that DSP has reached. Phil has that money, but does some random "detractor" have thousands of dollars in spare money to waste? And to play for months and months for hours a day to get there? Or does that sound like something Phil would do while drinking gin until 3am?
2) It took until now for someone to even find the account, so if they were "framing" Phil or mocking Phil, why would they not tell anyone or post about it somewhere to make DSP look bad? It's not like someone tweeted about it and said, "Ha, look at Phil, he said he's broke and he's not!" (They might now, but this player has been playing for months with no one noticing....)
3) DSP is a known player of the game and loves wrestling.
4) DSP makes $10,000 a month (before taxes) yet claims to constantly be broke. He doesn't pay his mortgage so where is the money going? It would make sense that it's something like this that totally fits into Phil's lifestyle.

It might be someone else but the odds are slim, aren't they?

 

[BT9494]

I just felt like this information needed to be put out there.

Without even considering the money, the amount of time needed to get an account to level 311 and increase the talent of all those characters is staggering. I guess there are some that believe he has fans that are willing to do something like that, but I just cannot subscribe to this theory.

 

[JackDavis]

1) You have to spend thousands or tens of thousands of dollars to get to the level in the game that DSP has reached. Phil has that money, but does some random "detractor" have thousands of dollars in spare money to waste? And to play for months and months for hours a day to get there? Or does that sound like something Phil would do while drinking gin until 3am?

It's just as likely that it's someone like GrazyDream or Phrenelith who are obsessed with Phil and have a history of giving away money online.

2) It took until now for someone to even find the account, so if they were "framing" Phil or mocking Phil, why would they not tell anyone or post about it somewhere to make DSP look bad? It's not like someone tweeted about it and said, "Ha, look at Phil, he said he's broke and he's not!" (They might now, but this player has been playing for months with no one noticing....)

Could be a fan with poor spending habits (as is common with Phil fans) .

Anyways none of this is evidence, it's all speculation. We have absolutely no evidence that this is Phil and it's silly to believe that it's him without any evidence.

 

[Pepper Jack]

I just felt like this information needed to be put out there.

Without even considering the money, the amount of time needed to get an account to level 311 and increase the talent of all those characters is staggering. I guess there are some that believe he has fans that are willing to do something like that, but I just cannot subscribe to this theory.

He sits up alone and drinking gin until 3AM regularly. The dood has time to play Supercard.

 

[Troonos]

Wrestling is hands down the fucking gayest form of entertainment this side of the kuiper belt and only faggots watch it.

What that says about people that download apps based on it is up to speculation.

Mobile games are equally a gay faggot form of entrainment, so what does that say about Dave?

 

[Suburban Bastard]

Imagine spending 10.000 dollars on a stupid mobile game, I’d probably just kill myself at that point.

 

[Comma]

I just felt like this information needed to be put out there.

Without even considering the money, the amount of time needed to get an account to level 311 and increase the talent of all those characters is staggering. I guess there are some that believe he has fans that are willing to do something like that, but I just cannot subscribe to this theory.

Your theory - which was presented as fact - is as good as anyone else's at this point because there's no confirmation whatsoever the account is actually tied to DSP. Until that changes, the 'DSP still plays WWE Champions' theory will be just that: a theory.

I don't have any knowledge about the game, but isn't it possible to see more details of a player's profile or something? And what is this 'Uselessness' name supposed to represent?

 

[ZehnBoat]

Imagine spending 10.000 dollars on a stupid mobile game, I’d probably just kill myself at that point.

that's what happens when you're phil
you have no skills in games so you take the easy way and throw money at the game to let you win
he needs that rush of YOU WIN and YOU SO GOOD AT GAMING but doesn't want the risk of YOUR TIMING IS TOO SLOW and YOUR GUIDE FAILED TO MENTION SOMETHING

guy has such a fragile ego that the thought of any loss cuts him to the bone

 

[DZoomer]

Prediction of what will happen:

1. Someone will cheer mentioning this.
2. Phil will say "Uhh, I don't know what the hell you're talking about, nuhuhuh"
3. That will be it.

Sadly, as others have said, there's no hard evidence that proves that it really is him. Which is a shame, because if there was, I believe at least some paypigs would get mad knowing that he's been spending his money on that kind of shit.

 

[BT9494]

Your theory - which was presented as fact - is as good as anyone else's at this point because there's no confirmation whatsoever the account is actually tied to DSP. Until that changes, the 'DSP still plays WWE Champions' theory will be just that: a theory.

I don't have any knowledge about the game, but isn't it possible to see more details of a player's profile or something? And what is this 'Uselessness' name supposed to represent?

Uselessness is the name of the faction of which this account is a member. Factions work as groups to complete parts of monthly events as well as participating in faction feuds during the month where teams compete directly against each other.

They are a strong group and are pretty much in the top ten worldwide in everything.

Unfortunately, I realize that there is not a concrete way to prove that this is him despite my beliefs. The only way would be if DSP would show the account that he played the game on, but I have to believe that there isn't a chance in hell of that happening.

I respect the opinions given here and if a moderator feels like the title of the thread should be renamed I will do so.

 

[Jeanne d'Arc]

I've done some research on this game, and if this is DSP, holy fucking shit. I think if this is him, he spends more time on this game than he does his channel.

This channel runs WWE Champions content as it's mainstay, was mentioned earlier in this thread (this is the guy who spent $200 on pulls for Hulk Hogan). Dude seems cool enough, honestly, jokes about how sometimes his wife won't get off his computer to let him make videos so he has to record from his phone and that sometimes he spends so much on pulls that he'll have to "sleep on the couch". He definitely leans towards whale, but he's monetizing this, bear in mind- he gets some of the money he spends on pulls back, it's his channel's main content etc. This is an expensive hobby that it seems like he enjoys. I could be misinformed here, this is just my impression from watching a couple videos on his channel. I've seen negative comments about him on the /r/WWEChampions subreddit, but I'm not part of the game's community so I can't really speak on it's consensus.

This dude is level 157, VIP level 13.
Dave (IF this is his account) is level 311, VIP level 12.

I just want to quantify this. The channel I've mentioned is a modest Youtube channel that basically exclusively creates content around this game at present moment, and he is HALF of this presumed DSP's account level. He publishes 2-3 videos of this game A DAY sometimes, and STILL he is that far behind. How much fucking time does DSP have to spend playing this game to be that far ahead? Not to mention a lot of gacha-type games (note I cannot confirm this one) use a leveling system where each level is going to cost substantially more XP to reach than the last... what the fuck?

I don't know how exactly VIP works and why the modest channel is a VIP level above DSP, but "gold VIP" costs $500 a year. It is a subscription service at $25 a month. Take that as you will. Here (live page) is a post on the /r/WWEChampions subreddit on VIP status.

And to close out this post, Here is a spreadsheet I found showing the datamined odds this game has for it's gacha. "Silver 3-Stars" have a .5% drop rate. "Silver 4-Stars" have a .02% drop rate. All of the "DSP" account's featured wrestlers are "Gold 4-Stars", which do not even have drop rates on this sheet. Bear in mind it's older, but holy shit. I guess they're made somehow with high level crafting materials that cost a firstborn or something?
Gacha industry standard is 1% pull rate on highest tier, by the way. The equivalent of a Gold 4-Star in something like Fate Grand/Order, one of the more popular gacha games, drops 1 in every 100 pulls. It seems like the first step to a Gold 4-Star drops 1 every 1000 pulls. There's probably some developer aid to make getting them easier, but holy fuck.

OP seems to possess more knowledge on the game then I ever could, so if he could confirm or deny that would be awesome. I am in absolute disbelief if this is DSP, this is levels of whale that I have never seen before, and I have been around the block with gacha games.

 

[Near]

Guys, calm the fuck down. What evidence is there that this is even him? That the name matches his Twitter handle? If I make a WWE Champions account named realDonaldTrump does that make me President of the United States?



Exactly. He was DarksydePhil when it came to WWE SuperCard which I believe uses the same accounts. You all need to pump the breaks before he makes us all look like fools, escort style.

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For reference, this Twitter account was made during the time Phil was taking breaks during his stream to play Supercard https://twitter.com/dspsupercard?lang=en

Ah the the make account named after an e-celeb and spend 10 grand on it plan.
Must be Fred Fuchs' deepest op yet.

Prediction of what will happen:

1. Someone will cheer mentioning this.
2. Phil will say "Uhh, I don't know what the hell you're talking about, nuhuhuh"
3. That will be it.

Sadly, as others have said, there's no hard evidence that proves that it really is him. Which is a shame, because if there was, I believe at least some paypigs would get mad knowing that he's been spending his money on that kind of shit.

Even if there was the hardest and most damning evidence that it's him, the 3-step process would go exactly the same.

 

[tzgnilki]

Guys, calm the fuck down. What evidence is there that this is even him? That the name matches his Twitter handle? If I make a WWE Champions account named realDonaldTrump does that make me President of the United States?



Exactly. He was DarksydePhil when it came to WWE SuperCard which I believe uses the same accounts. You all need to pump the breaks before he makes us all look like fools, escort style.

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For reference, this Twitter account was made during the time Phil was taking breaks during his stream to play Supercard https://twitter.com/dspsupercard?lang=en

I downloaded the game to see what it's like

it asks you to create your username when you first open the app

could be interesting if someone found the discord for his clan, but you'd need to be a super whale to even apply to this clan

 

[JackDavis]

Guys, don't believe something just because you want it to be true.

 

[Mr.PiggyOinkOinkOink]

Damn y’all are being major buzz kills. We have no way to confirm if it’s him but I’m more than okay with assuming it’s him over a detractor spending thousands of dollars to “frame” him for something he could easily disprove, or one of his wheelchair fans decided to steal his exact handle on a mobile game they are spending thousands of dollars on.

Someone’s gonna try and bait him with it, and if it isn’t him he could easily prove it, and until he does I’m more than willingly to say it’s him and he’s been blowing absurd amounts of money on this gay ass game.

 

[BT9494]

I've done some research on this game, and if this is DSP, holy fucking shit. I think if this is him, he spends more time on this game than he does his channel.

This channel runs WWE Champions content as it's mainstay, was mentioned earlier in this thread (this is the guy who spent $200 on pulls for Hulk Hogan). Dude seems cool enough, honestly, jokes about how sometimes his wife won't get off his computer to let him make videos so he has to record from his phone and that sometimes he spends so much on pulls that he'll have to "sleep on the couch". He definitely leans towards whale, but he's monetizing this, bear in mind- he gets some of the money he spends on pulls back, it's his channel's main content etc. This is an expensive hobby that it seems like he enjoys. I could be misinformed here, this is just my impression from watching a couple videos on his channel. I've seen negative comments about him on the /r/WWEChampions subreddit, but I'm not part of the game's community so I can't really speak on it's consensus.

This dude is level 157, VIP level 13.
Dave (IF this is his account) is level 311, VIP level 12.

I just want to quantify this. The channel I've mentioned is a modest Youtube channel that basically exclusively creates content around this game at present moment, and he is HALF of this presumed DSP's account level. He publishes 2-3 videos of this game A DAY sometimes, and STILL he is that far behind. How much fucking time does DSP have to spend playing this game to be that far ahead? Not to mention a lot of gacha-type games (note I cannot confirm this one) use a leveling system where each level is going to cost substantially more XP to reach than the last... what the fuck?

I don't know how exactly VIP works and why the modest channel is a VIP level above DSP, but "gold VIP" costs $500 a year. It is a subscription service at $25 a month. Take that as you will. Here (live page) is a post on the /r/WWEChampions subreddit on VIP status.

And to close out this post, Here is a spreadsheet I found showing the datamined odds this game has for it's gacha. "Silver 3-Stars" have a .5% drop rate. "Silver 4-Stars" have a .02% drop rate. All of the "DSP" account's featured wrestlers are "Gold 4-Stars", which do not even have drop rates on this sheet. Bear in mind it's older, but holy shit. I guess they're made somehow with high level crafting materials that cost a firstborn or something?
Gacha industry standard is 1% pull rate on highest tier, by the way. The equivalent of a Gold 4-Star in something like Fate Grand/Order, one of the more popular gacha games, drops 1 in every 100 pulls. It seems like the first step to a Gold 4-Star drops 1 every 1000 pulls. There's probably some developer aid to make getting them easier, but holy fuck.

OP seems to possess more knowledge on the game then I ever could, so if he could confirm or deny that would be awesome. I am in absolute disbelief if this is DSP, this is levels of whale that I have never seen before, and I have been around the block with gacha games.

In an effort to keep this short, I will simply say that both VIP 12 and 13 equate to spending a ton of money as stated before. However, the difference in levels comes from an amazing amount of play as the only way to gain XP is from completing matches.

It should also be stated that the YouTuber that makes those videos probably spends a lot on the game, but is also reimbursed to some extent by Scopely. They will usually send him the newest characters at max level, and take them back when he is done shooting the videos.

Finally, just because this account has certain characters at four star gold level does not mean that this is the rarity at which they were pulled. They could have been pulled at a lower rarity and then enhanced/evolved. That being said, getting all those characters in the first place at any level would require A LOT of spending/pulling.

 

[DiabeticSP]

I'm not sure why people are acting like whether or not this account being Phil changes anything besides whether he's still spending money.

We know Phil plays the game and has in the past spent hundreds upon hundreds of dollars on it, from his own mouth. And thats probably trying to put himself in the best light about his whaling.

The only thing we DON'T know is that whether he's still spending money, but considering its Phil and considering Phil's spending habits, its almost impossible mister "going for groceries includes window shoppong at Ikea and 3 meals" suddenly stopped his whaling while drinking gin at 2am.

 

[Royalty Free Fish Food]

Which is more likely, Phil sending thousands of dollars on WWE Champions while a house is foreclosing and while Kat hates wrestling and doesn't let him even watch it. Or one of his Paypigs took a secondary Phil userid and is giving both Phil and this mobile game thousands of dollars?

The first one because that's exactly the kind of dumbass financial decisions Piggo has already made. See: Leasing a fucking BMW while working from home.

 

[Mr.PiggyOinkOinkOink]

I'm not sure why people are acting like whether or not this account being Phil changes anything besides whether he's still spending money.

We know Phil plays the game and has in the past spent hundreds upon hundreds of dollars on it, from his own mouth. And thats probably trying to put himself in the best light about his whaling.

The only thing we DON'T know is that whether he's still spending money, but considering its Phil and considering Phil's spending habits, its almost impossible mister "going for groceries includes window shoppong at Ikea and 3 meals" suddenly stopped his whaling while drinking gin at 2am.

Like every other detail we learn about dark, its just another thing to point and laugh at and marvel at how pathetic he is away from the camera.

Which is why I don’t care enough to consider its someone else, I just don’t care enough to demand evidence. I’m gonna laugh at this and I won’t lose any sleep if he somehow proves this ain’t him and he “beats” us. Nothing in the DSPverse is worth taking that serious.

 

[ZehnBoat]

it doesn't even matter if it could be proven
phil will interupt his strim to talk about how alotovpeepol told him that the dehtrahctors are making drama with a lie about him spending tons of money on a game