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Otterly · Jan 11, 2020

The us say they saw a radar ‘being turned on’ then two missiles.
that phrase has been in several articles. Can someone explain the significance of it? I have no idea about military stuff - if you have a radar installation isn’t it on all the time and sweeping the area? Is this phrase implying that someone turned something on by mistake and it locked on and fired?
It beggars belief that an installation by an airport that sees planes take that same western flight route multiple times daily, would fire on something in a known flight path unless someone who was unfamiliar with the area had control.

Gustav Schuchardt · Jan 11, 2020

This reminds me of a joke some Iranian guy told me. The CIA, Mossad and the Iranian secret police have a contest. The idea is two man teams capture bears and bring them back alive. The team who capture the most bears win the contest.

The first team back is the CIA. The agents come back with a tranquilized bear in a cage they have assembled from telescopic components in their back packs and high tech, light weight, bear proof kevlar sheets. The next team back is Mossad. Each agent has punched a bear unconscious and slung it over their back. There is a long wait. Eventually the CIA and Mossad decide the Iranians have got lost or eaten or something and Mossad wins the trophy since they brought back two bears to the CIA's one and they all head off to the bar for a drink. Much later the Iranian team comes back. They have a deer which they have beaten very badly.

"I'M A BEAR! I'M A BEAR!" says the deer, but apart from the Iranians no one is left to see.

Franjevina · Jan 11, 2020

Otterly said:
The us say they saw a radar ‘being turned on’ ...

Just like the Serbs in NATO campaign in 1999 they turn off and on their AA radars to avoid potential anti-radiation missiles from US air force .That's why smaller countries will turn on their anti-aircraft missile system,scan the skies and fire a missile then move to avoid counter-attack .My guess is Iranians were lil bit too paranoid that US will retaliate against their missile attack in same night .

Dr. Ricearoni · Jan 11, 2020

Franjevina said:
Oh you mean like when USA shoot down Iran Air flight 655 in 1988 ?

ah yes, forgot all about that one. ok guys, news is over, the US shot down a flight first. you can stop posting now.

theshep · Jan 11, 2020

What we now need to know is if the CIA will etch any more unidentified stars into the Memorial Wall.

If you're interested in the Iranian site cleanup, check this Twitter thread. I almost lost my dinner.

Ruptly VU on Twitter

“Some of our images are extremely graphic, showing body parts and personal belongings strewn across the crash site. Another image shows onlookers gathered in the park - known as Laleh Park - in the area where the plane crashed. *GRAPHIC*”

twitter.com

Traummaschine · Jan 11, 2020

When it comes to Gaddafi, as far as I remember there was some hesitation after Gaddafi started bombing the rebels. Then the leaders of the rebellion traveled to France to meet up with Sarkozy, and soon France promised to join the fight, which lead to the rest of the bigger NATO countries to happily join too. We can only guess what they promised to give France and Sarkozy in return, but it's hard to imagine it was just because they felt bad for the libyans.

LetThemEatCake · Jan 11, 2020

theshep said:
What we now need to know is if the CIA will etch any more unidentified stars into the Memorial Wall.

If you're interested in the Iranian site cleanup, check this Twitter thread. I almost lost my dinner.

Ruptly VU on Twitter

“Some of our images are extremely graphic, showing body parts and personal belongings strewn across the crash site. Another image shows onlookers gathered in the park - known as Laleh Park - in the area where the plane crashed. *GRAPHIC*”

twitter.com

I found it hard to identify anything as human, apart from the teeth, tbqh. maybe I'm not looking right?

I wonder if any bodies at all are remotely intact. In the 1997 Silk Air crash in Indonesia (which was a vertical dive from 25,000ft by a suicidal pilot), the investigators didn't pull a single intact body out of the crash site; they didn't pull a single intact arm or leg out of it.

BONE_Buddy · Jan 11, 2020

Trump administration announces new sanctions on Iran

The Trump administration announced new sanctions on Iran Friday targeting the country’s metals sector and several of its government leaders following Tehran’s missile attacks on Iraqi bases housing U.S.

thehill.com

Trump administration announces new sanctions on Iran
The Trump administration announced new sanctions on Iran Friday targeting the country’s metals sector and several of its government leaders following Tehran’s missile attacks on Iraqi bases housing U.S. troops earlier this week.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin held a press conference at the White House to detail the new measures, which President Trump promised were coming earlier in the week.

The new sanctions target the Iranian aluminum, copper, iron and steel industries. The U.S. is also sanctioning eight senior Iranian officials who were allegedly involved in Tuesday’s missile attacks against U.S. forces in Iraq.

“We are announcing additional sanctions on the Iranian regime as a result of the attack on U.S. and allied troops,” Mnuchin said. “Today’s sanctions are part of our commitment to stop the Iranian regime’s global terrorist activities.”

The sanctions target the largest manufacturers of steel, aluminum, copper and iron in Iran, which combine to produce billions of dollars in annual revenue, the officials said. The U.S. will also sanction 17 Iranian metals producers and mining companies with Friday's measure.

In addition to the sanctions, Trump will sign an executive order that targets revenue sources the Iranian government relies on to fund its nuclear program and its proxy networks. The order gives additional leeway to Pompeo and Mnuchin to impose additional sanctions on other sectors of the Iranian economy, such as its mining and textiles industries.

The announcement came days after the U.S. and Iran appeared to ease back from the prospect of a military conflict following an exchange of strikes from each side.

Trump approved a strike last week that killed top Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani in Baghdad after an Iranian-backed group was blamed for attacks that killed a U.S. contractor. U.S. officials have remained tight-lipped about the intelligence that led to the Soleimani strike, but have insisted the general posed an urgent threat to Americans.

In response to Soleimani’s death, Iran fired several missiles at two bases in Iraq that house U.S. forces and allied personnel. There were no casualties reported in the strikes, and Trump said the bases sustained limited damage.

Trump said in a Wednesday address to the nation that Iran appeared to be standing down and that he hoped for a peaceful resolution with Tehran. But in the meantime, he pledged to impose "punishing sanctions" over the missile strikes until Iran "changes its behavior."

The Trump administration has levied numerous sanctions on Tehran as part of its “maximum pressure campaign” against Iran that kicked off in earnest with the 2018 withdrawal from the Obama-era nuclear deal. Previous measures have targeted Iran’s supreme leader, its foreign minister and the country’s oil and metal industries in an effort to hamper the economy.

Mnuchin and Pompeo were adamant on Friday that the sanctions have been effective, even after the latest exchange of military strikes and even as Iran continues to exert influence in the Middle East.

“I think we have 100 percent confidence and we are consistent in our view that the economic sanctions are working,” Mnuchin said. “That if we didn’t have these sanctions in place, literally Iran would have tens of billions of dollars. They would be using that for terrorist activities throughout the region and to enable them to do more bad things.”

Pompeo argued that the sanctions have cut off revenue streams, putting Iran in dire financial straits that have forced it to reconsider whether to back proxy groups or invest in nuclear ambitions.

“This country has never been in the place they’ve been today,” he said. “They’ve got real challenges in figuring out how to make difficult decisions.”

-End of Article-

More US sanctions to cut off revenue sources to the Iranian government.

Some bits and pieces of the Anti-Iran protests yesterday:

Anonymous Whistleblower Mike on Twitter

“Since the killing of Soleimani, US media commentators liken Soleimani to Princess DI, and blather about how Trump has unified Iraq & Iran against us. Then there is reality: an increase in the tempo and energy of the anti-IRGC protests, especially in Iraq. https://t.co/69JJZD1L35”

twitter.com

Anonymous Whistleblower Mike on Twitter

“Here area the protestors, today, chanting, “Ya Iran, ya zballah, ‘oofi Iraq bi-halah.” “Hey Iran, hey garbage, leave Iraq alone.” [ "يا إيران يا زبالة عوفي(اتركي)العراق بحاله"].”

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Anonymous Whistleblower Mike on Twitter

“Here are protestors, today in Karbala, a Shiite holy city: “Yes, yes to Iraq. Iraq needs an Iraqi leadership, not Iranian.” https://t.co/8phIwS4ywN”

twitter.com

Anonymous Whistleblower Mike on Twitter

“Here are protestors, today in Karbala, a Shiite holy city: “Yes, yes to Iraq. Iraq needs an Iraqi leadership, not Iranian.” https://t.co/8phIwS4ywN”

twitter.com

Anonymous Whistleblower Mike on Twitter

“Here are the protestors today in Baghdad: “This people aren’t afraid of you, Iran! Take your dogs [the pro-Iran militias that Soleimani built) away! | https://t.co/Vmp5a2Z3EE”

twitter.com

OmarAhmed on Twitter

“Baghdad now The protesters are calling for the fall of the corrupt regime and shouting not to the militias. Millions, not a million #العراق #iraqi_parliament_not_represent_me @spectatorindex @realDonaldTrump @cjtruth @1WeAreSoldiers1 @SecPompeo @Alexand34723258 @faigalsheakh...

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OmarAhmed on Twitter

“Riot forces arrest the protesters and stand in the way of their progress in Basra. I am Iraqi. parliament not represent me. @spectatorindex @1WeAreSoldiers1 @cjtruth @Alexand34723258 @realDonaldTrump @SecPompeo @thestevennabil @theAngel_Face @AlHaLboosii https://t.co/MFeAPKj7yH”

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Anonymous Whistleblower Mike on Twitter

“Here’s the type of thing we’re not hearing from our media. This courageous Iraqi patriot is @ahmedsamed80, a reporter for Dijlah TV, an Iraqi cable station. He was assassinated today after airing this clip, almost certainly by Soleimani’s goons. https://t.co/zEZ50rNubt”

twitter.com

Anonymous Whistleblower Mike on Twitter

“He was talking about the attack on the peaceful demonstrators in Basra by the Iran-aligned shock troops. A friend sent me this translation: “Greetings. Now [we saw] random detentions by the shock troops & the security forces. My question is well known, and I will ask it openly.”

twitter.com

Anonymous Whistleblower Mike on Twitter

““When the pro-Iran demonstrations took place [at the US embassy], no one was detained. When the demonstrations occurred in front of the US embassy, no one was beaten. Why did the detentions start now? And why do we have martyrs?”

twitter.com

Anonymous Whistleblower Mike on Twitter

“[Turns to an eye-witness] The eye-witness: “There were arrests by the leadership of the Basra Police, and killings, and beatings of the young men and women who were chanting on behalf of Iraq, not for Iran or for America. Ahmed: I chant against Iran, against America, & Kuwait.”

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Anonymous Whistleblower Mike on Twitter

“The eyewitness: “Reports [from the demonstrators’ information network] indicated that the shock troops and the riot police were coming to the demonstrations now, to take them, and to oppress the demonstrations and the sit-ins.””

twitter.com

Anonymous Whistleblower Mike on Twitter

“Ahmed: “[...] Iran & America will settle their scores [with each other]. We’re here for our cause, the cause of the homeland. We will keep demanding an independent PM, early elections, and accounting and prosecuting the corrupt people. The demonstrations are coming now.””

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Anonymous Whistleblower Mike on Twitter

“The eyewitness: [...] “Our cause is the homeland, nothing else.” Ahmed: “Our cause is the homeland, you, who don’t have a homeland.” And for that, this man was murdered. Iran does not want word of the extent of the opposition to it to spread. Khamenei is sitting on a volcano.”

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Saad Nasir - سعد ناصر on Twitter

“🔴Tonight we lost as a journalist family, Two journalist members #Ahmed_Abdulsamad & #Safaa_Ghali after assassination them by Iranian-backed militias in #Basra! @amnestyusa @UNHumanRights @AmnestyIraq @cnni @UNIraq @UN @WashInstitute @washingtonpost @nytimes https://t.co/nE1DFzFDqY”

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Edit: Fixed formatting, sorry for being a Boomer.

bippu_as_fuck_ls400 · Jan 11, 2020

I made some updates to the OP with news articles posted in the thread. I'll work on the previous days when I get around to it. From here forward, I'll update it at the end of the day with the articles posted that day.

BONE_Buddy · Jan 11, 2020

Prepare For the Worst From Iran Cyber Attacks, As DHS Issues Warning: Experts

Experts warn that Iran almost certainly now has the cyber tools to inflict physical damage on US critical infrastructure.

breakingdefense.com

Prepare For the Worst From Iran Cyber Attacks, As DHS Issues Warning: Experts
Experts warn that Iran almost certainly now has the cyber tools to inflict physical damage on US critical infrastructure.
WASHINGTON: With the risk of Iranian cyber attacks high enough for the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI to issue a warning, experts say the US government and the private sector must accept their sites will go down and be prepared to hit restart.

“I’m going to tell you a painful truth. When you have actors like this that are well trained — in the thousands — by a nation-state, if they are targeting something they will probably succeed,” says Diana Volere, whose (wonderful) title is “Chief Security Evangelist” at Saviynt. Over the past few years “Iran has been successful” in attacking a number of defense and civil aviation firms. Saviynt, based in El Segundo, helps organizations authenticate that people, software and systems accessing their networks are who and what they say they are, and not malicious actors.

Further, experts warn, Iran almost certainly has the cyber tools to inflict physical damage on US critical infrastructure. For example, Volere said, hacking the smart electrical grid could shut down power on the West Coast, or they could target military drones to crash them.

(Readers may remember that in 2011, Iran announced the capture of a Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) near the city of Kashmar in northeastern Iran — with Tehran saying it was brought down by a military cyber warfare unit. And in 2012, Iran formally established a special high-level command for cyber war, led by the Revolutionary Guards and directly overseen by Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei.)

So, since systems will likely get taken down should Iran attack, experts say, network backups, fail safe measures, plans for rallying recovery resources and personnel, and other methods of rapidly getting back to business are key to ensuring the attacks do not severely disrupt American society.

Piyush Pandey, CEO of Dallas-based Appsian (a company that provides services similar to Saviynet’s), said that while cyber incidents happen all the time, announcements about imminent threats from a specific country or actor “don’t come out very often.”

DHS on Jan. 4 issued a public bulletin warning of the increased potential for Iranian-backed cyber terrorism, and CNN reported this afternoon that the FBI and DHS also had issued a “joint intelligence bulletin” that predicted attacks first on overseas facilities — such as the Iranian missile attacks yesterday at two US air bases in Iraq — followed in the “medium-term” by attacks on the US homeland.

Further, DHS’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) on Jan. 6 issued a warning to cybersecurity experts to be on guard. As Pandey and Volere both noted, the CISA warning included specific guidance about the technical nature of possible Iranian attack attempts, based on previous hacking incidents traced back to Iranian sources.

A CISA spokesperson would not address whether the agency is seeing an increase in attempted cyber incursions in the United States. However, the governor of Texas, Governor Greg Abbott announced that state agencies under his control have seen an increase in attempted cyber attacks by Iran in the past 48 hours — as many as ten thousand per minute — and blamed Iran. None of those attempts had been successful, he added.

Pandey explained that the first step agencies and companies need to take is to increase monitoring of network activity, but he stressed that there is no way to really “rapidly gear up defense” — with the exception of simply giving up and “shutting yourself down,” which of course leads to a loss of business.

Instead, he said, US government and agencies must invest strategically in protecting networks and, importantly, the data inside those networks. “Think of it like a house,” he said. “You can put really good doors and locks outside, and nowadays people have monitoring outside, but you have to have those things inside too. No matter what you do with the periphery, people will still come inside.”

Cyber Command (CYBERCOM), responsible for defending DoD information networks world wide, would not comment on whether they’ve seen an increase in cyber incidents or on their activities to respond to the heightened Iranian threat.

However, CYBERCOM head Gen. Paul Nakasone, in testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee in February 2019, explained that the command’s mission also includes deterring and defeating adversary cyber attacks.

“The Command is charged with providing mission assurance for the Department of Defense by directing the operation and defense of the Department’s information systems (what we call the DoDIN); deterring or defeating strategic threats to national interests and infrastructure; and helping the combatant commanders achieve their missions in and through cyberspace,” he told lawmakers.

Thus, it is fair to assume that CYBERCOM would be offering options, both defensive and offensive, for combatant commanders. Further, DoD’s cyberwar strategy is focused on “persistent engagement” that involves what officials call “defending forward” in cyberspace.

In an interview with Joint Force Quarterly in January 2019, Nakasone explained:

“Persistent engagement is the concept that states we are in constant contact with our adversaries in cyberspace, and success is determined by how we enable and act. In persistent engagement, we enable other interagency partners. Whether it’s the FBI or DHS, we enable them with information or intelligence to share with elements of the CIKR [critical infrastructure and key resources] or with select private-sector companies. …

“Enabling our partners is two-thirds of persistent engagement. The other third rests with our ability to act-that is, how we act against our adversaries in cyberspace. Acting includes defending forward. How do we warn, how do we influence our adversaries, how do we position ourselves in case we have to achieve outcomes in the future? Acting is the concept of operating outside our borders, being outside our networks, to ensure that we understand what our adversaries are doing. If we find ourselves defending inside our own networks, we have lost the initiative and the advantage.”

-End of Article-

The United States' weakness to cyber attacks, while definitely overblown by some, is a real issue. I feel sorry for anyone who has to deal with government side cybersecurity.

Also, Iran released a new propaganda film on twitter:

Ellesse_warrior · Jan 11, 2020

BONE_Buddy said:
Prepare For the Worst From Iran Cyber Attacks, As DHS Issues Warning: Experts

Experts warn that Iran almost certainly now has the cyber tools to inflict physical damage on US critical infrastructure.

breakingdefense.com

Prepare For the Worst From Iran Cyber Attacks, As DHS Issues Warning: Experts
Experts warn that Iran almost certainly now has the cyber tools to inflict physical damage on US critical infrastructure.
WASHINGTON: With the risk of Iranian cyber attacks high enough for the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI to issue a warning, experts say the US government and the private sector must accept their sites will go down and be prepared to hit restart.

“I’m going to tell you a painful truth. When you have actors like this that are well trained — in the thousands — by a nation-state, if they are targeting something they will probably succeed,” says Diana Volere, whose (wonderful) title is “Chief Security Evangelist” at Saviynt. Over the past few years “Iran has been successful” in attacking a number of defense and civil aviation firms. Saviynt, based in El Segundo, helps organizations authenticate that people, software and systems accessing their networks are who and what they say they are, and not malicious actors.

Further, experts warn, Iran almost certainly has the cyber tools to inflict physical damage on US critical infrastructure. For example, Volere said, hacking the smart electrical grid could shut down power on the West Coast, or they could target military drones to crash them.

(Readers may remember that in 2011, Iran announced the capture of a Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) near the city of Kashmar in northeastern Iran — with Tehran saying it was brought down by a military cyber warfare unit. And in 2012, Iran formally established a special high-level command for cyber war, led by the Revolutionary Guards and directly overseen by Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei.)

So, since systems will likely get taken down should Iran attack, experts say, network backups, fail safe measures, plans for rallying recovery resources and personnel, and other methods of rapidly getting back to business are key to ensuring the attacks do not severely disrupt American society.

Piyush Pandey, CEO of Dallas-based Appsian (a company that provides services similar to Saviynet’s), said that while cyber incidents happen all the time, announcements about imminent threats from a specific country or actor “don’t come out very often.”

DHS on Jan. 4 issued a public bulletin warning of the increased potential for Iranian-backed cyber terrorism, and CNN reported this afternoon that the FBI and DHS also had issued a “joint intelligence bulletin” that predicted attacks first on overseas facilities — such as the Iranian missile attacks yesterday at two US air bases in Iraq — followed in the “medium-term” by attacks on the US homeland.

Further, DHS’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) on Jan. 6 issued a warning to cybersecurity experts to be on guard. As Pandey and Volere both noted, the CISA warning included specific guidance about the technical nature of possible Iranian attack attempts, based on previous hacking incidents traced back to Iranian sources.

A CISA spokesperson would not address whether the agency is seeing an increase in attempted cyber incursions in the United States. However, the governor of Texas, Governor Greg Abbott announced that state agencies under his control have seen an increase in attempted cyber attacks by Iran in the past 48 hours — as many as ten thousand per minute — and blamed Iran. None of those attempts had been successful, he added.

Pandey explained that the first step agencies and companies need to take is to increase monitoring of network activity, but he stressed that there is no way to really “rapidly gear up defense” — with the exception of simply giving up and “shutting yourself down,” which of course leads to a loss of business.

Instead, he said, US government and agencies must invest strategically in protecting networks and, importantly, the data inside those networks. “Think of it like a house,” he said. “You can put really good doors and locks outside, and nowadays people have monitoring outside, but you have to have those things inside too. No matter what you do with the periphery, people will still come inside.”

Cyber Command (CYBERCOM), responsible for defending DoD information networks world wide, would not comment on whether they’ve seen an increase in cyber incidents or on their activities to respond to the heightened Iranian threat.

However, CYBERCOM head Gen. Paul Nakasone, in testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee in February 2019, explained that the command’s mission also includes deterring and defeating adversary cyber attacks.

“The Command is charged with providing mission assurance for the Department of Defense by directing the operation and defense of the Department’s information systems (what we call the DoDIN); deterring or defeating strategic threats to national interests and infrastructure; and helping the combatant commanders achieve their missions in and through cyberspace,” he told lawmakers.

Thus, it is fair to assume that CYBERCOM would be offering options, both defensive and offensive, for combatant commanders. Further, DoD’s cyberwar strategy is focused on “persistent engagement” that involves what officials call “defending forward” in cyberspace.

In an interview with Joint Force Quarterly in January 2019, Nakasone explained:

“Persistent engagement is the concept that states we are in constant contact with our adversaries in cyberspace, and success is determined by how we enable and act. In persistent engagement, we enable other interagency partners. Whether it’s the FBI or DHS, we enable them with information or intelligence to share with elements of the CIKR [critical infrastructure and key resources] or with select private-sector companies. …

“Enabling our partners is two-thirds of persistent engagement. The other third rests with our ability to act-that is, how we act against our adversaries in cyberspace. Acting includes defending forward. How do we warn, how do we influence our adversaries, how do we position ourselves in case we have to achieve outcomes in the future? Acting is the concept of operating outside our borders, being outside our networks, to ensure that we understand what our adversaries are doing. If we find ourselves defending inside our own networks, we have lost the initiative and the advantage.”

-End of Article-
The United States' weakness to cyber attacks, while definitely overblown by some, is a real issue. I feel sorry for anyone who has to deal with government side cybersecurity.

Also, Iran released a new propaganda film on twitter:
View attachment 1093688

'...state agencies under his control have seen an increase in attempted cyber attacks by Iran in the past 48 hours — as many as ten thousand per minute — and blamed Iran. None of those attempts had been successful, he added.'

Iran fails again, this is getting embarrassing.

MrHoneyBadger · Jan 11, 2020

So, Ukrainians really saw the remains of the plane.

Офіс Президента України

Оперативний штаб при Рада національної безпеки і оборони України, створений за дорученням Президента Володимира Зеленського для розслідування авіакатастрофи літака українських авіаліній МАУ в Ірані,...

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Jump · Jan 11, 2020

Ellesse_warrior said:
'...state agencies under his control have seen an increase in attempted cyber attacks by Iran in the past 48 hours — as many as ten thousand per minute — and blamed Iran. None of those attempts had been successful, he added.'

Iran fails again, this is getting embarrassing.

Anything that is plugged in to the internet gets 100's or 1000's of "attacks" a day. Port scans, bots looking for exploitable software, ssh hail merry botnets, etc etc.
Put a ssh daemon on port 22 and in a day or 2 your going to see 100s of shitty automated login attempts. Lots from china and russia. They pass around infected copies of Windows that become botnet and have no real enforcement of isp abuse.
What for years was just normal background noise of the internet turned in to MUH RUSSIA conspiracy. Now it will be called IRAN superhackers.

mindlessobserver · Jan 11, 2020

The US media is really going all out on trying to blame this on Trump, They are such good cheerleaders for the Ayatollah

Opinion | Iran and Trump likely broke international law. And 176 innocents paid the price.

Would the 176 souls who perished on that plane still be alive had the United States not sought to kill Gen. Qassem  Soleimani?

www.nbcnews.com

A Useless Fish · Jan 11, 2020

These people can't even organize a funeral without things going to shit. They're a nation of fucking losers.

That said, now that the truth has come out, when will Justin Trudeau apologise, and offer to pay for the missile the Iranians used to slaughter his people?

Pocket Dragoon · Jan 11, 2020

Russians playing Crazy Ivan with our boats isn't newsworthy, or related directly at all to Iran's fuck up.

Then again, that it was a "listening ship" tells me the Russians are updating their sonar profiles. And sometimes, the only way to do that is to get very close under operating conditions.

The reason they do this, is because sound signatures of surface boats can change significantly enough after routine maintenance periods & even small additions..... like a new icemaker or air compressors.

Well, not newsworthy; unless the Russians are providing those same updated sonar profiles to the Iranians.

Fatrick Hamlinson · Jan 11, 2020

"Iran blames the US for setting the mood"

>"Iraqis" supporting Iran set fire to US Embassy, which is, in essence, USA ground: once a citizen steps foot on a US embassy, they're home
>Iran has been stirring the shit in different Middle East conflicts for a while now
>Iran's society has regressed into honor killings and stonings since the 1970s

What a story Mark. :story:

Also:

>Lefties who hate and want Assad dead somehow don't hate (and want dead) the man who supported his side in the Syrian "Civil War"

I thought the lefties hate hypocrisy.

It's HK-47 said:
"Okay, we may have fired a missile at it, but it totally wasn't intentional!"

It's almost like they want us to forget about the "Death to Westerners" spiel they've been rattling off for the past fifty years or so.

Jewelsmakerguy · Jan 11, 2020

Slick Willy said:
I thought the lefties hate hypocrisy.

They only hate it when it doesn't revolve around Orange Man.

ʕノ•ᴥ•ʔノ Pander · Jan 11, 2020

A Useless Fish said:
These people can't even organize a funeral without things going to shit. They're a nation of fucking losers.

That said, now that the truth has come out, when will Justin Trudeau apologise, and offer to pay for the missile the Iranians used to slaughter his people?

For sure Trudeau will try to take the diplomatic route but everyone knows how bad Iran fucked up. Hell alot of people up here are quite angry with Iran and how the whole thing played out. At this point Trudeau is hoping the US won't go to war but now that we have skin in the game (quite literally) Trudeau has join in if war happens. Otherwise people disillusioned with Trudeau might get desperate.

TowinKarz · Jan 11, 2020

mindlessobserver said:
The US media is really going all out on trying to blame this on Trump, They are such good cheerleaders for the Ayatollah

Opinion | Iran and Trump likely broke international law. And 176 innocents paid the price.

Would the 176 souls who perished on that plane still be alive had the United States not sought to kill Gen. Qassem  Soleimani?

www.nbcnews.com

Yes, they'd be alive probably if he hadn't been killed

But, HE'D still be alive and all those innocent passengers would still be alive, had he not organized an attack on a US embassy while on the soil of it's host country without permission.

This is just the usual bleeding-heart liberalism of deliberately only acknowledging the most photogenic victim and ignoring the rest to get what you want out of any given tradgedy. "Little Johnny's brother went to prison for life, and now he has no one to play ball with, how can we justify sending innocent children's family members to jail forever?" Because little Johnny's brother blew another person's head off over a drug deal.... that's how. If he didn't want his sibling to lose him, he should have CARED about that first.

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