War Iran-United States Military Crisis of 2020 - US Baghdad embassy under siege, rocket fire in US Baghdad green zone, Ukrainian Airlines flight 752 crash, and more!

January 10th:
Exclusive: Informants in Iraq, Syria helped U.S. kill Iran's Soleimani - sources (archive)(post)
Iraqi Shia cleric whose militia killed American troops says crisis is over following Iran strike and Trump speech (archive)(post)
Iraqi PM tells US to decide mechanism for troop withdrawal (archive)(post)
Mike Pence says Congress might 'compromise sources and methods' if fully briefed on the Soleimani strike (archive)(post)
Unidentified planes hit Iraqi militiamen in Syria, killing 8 (archive)(post)
Iraq: The Master Of Mayhem Meets A Missile (archive)(post)
Eliminating Qasem Soleimani was Donald Trump’s Middle East farewell letter (archive)(post)
Iran uses BULLDOZERS to clear debris from plane crash site while accusing US of ‘big lie’ that they shot it down (archive)(post)
Swiss Back Channel Helped Defuse U.S.-Iran Crisis (post)

January 11th:
UKRAINIAN AIRCRAFT WAS BROUGHT DOWN IN IRAN DUE TO 'HUMAN ERROR' (archive)(post)
Iran minister says 'human error' caused by 'US adventurism' led to deadly crash of Ukrainian jetliner (archive)(post)
Ukrainian aircraft was brought down in Iran due to 'human error' (archive)(post)
Trump, at Ohio rally, says Democrats would have leaked Soleimani attack plans (archive)(post)
The Atlantic's David Frum blames Trump for downing of plane in Iran, deaths of 176 (archive)(post)
Associated Press changes ‘shockingly bad’ headline about Soleimani, Ukrainian plane crash after backlash (archive)(post)
GOP Rep. Doug Collins apologizes for saying Democrats are 'in love with terrorists' (archive)(post)
Iran demands West 'show findings' as new video reveals aircraft was struck before fiery crash (archive)(post)
Warren town hall interrupted by angry protester accusing her of ‘siding with terrorists’ (archive)(post)
Trump administration announces new sanctions on Iran (archive)(post)
Prepare For the Worst From Iran Cyber Attacks, As DHS Issues Warning: Experts (archive)(post)
Trump tells Fox News' Laura Ingraham 'four embassies' were targeted in imminent threat from Iran (archive)(post)
Trump tweets support for Iranian protesters as they demand Khamenei quit (archive)(post)
Trump warns Iran against ‘another massacre’ as protests flare over downed jet (archive)(post)

January 12th:
Trump tweet in Farsi 'the most liked Persian tweet' in history of Twitter (archive)(post)
Iraq warned to keep US troops or risk financial blow-WSJ (archive)(post)
Iran arrests UK ambassador in what Britain calls ‘flagrant violation of international law’ (archive)(post)

January 13th:
Trump authorized Soleimani's killing 7 months ago, with conditions (archive)(post)

edit: This is a WIP. All links are posted in the order they appear in the thread, not in chronological order of their publication.


---Original OP before the merge---
Iraqi supporters of Iran-backed militia attack US Embassy
https://apnews.com/75228a8a607a44863b57021ac33264dc (http://archive.vn/ljm9Y)

By QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA12 minutes ago

BAGHDAD (AP) — Dozens of angry Iraqi Shiite militia supporters broke into the U.S. Embassy compound in Baghdad on Tuesday after smashing a main door and setting fire to a reception area, prompting tear gas and sounds of gunfire.

An Associated Press reporter at the scene saw flames rising from inside the compound and at least three U.S. soldiers on the roof of the main building inside embassy. It was not clear what caused the fire at the reception area near the parking lot of the compound. A man on a loudspeaker urged the mob not to enter the compound, saying: “The message was delivered.”

The embassy attack followed deadly U.S. airstrikes on Sunday that killed 25 fighters of the Iran-backed militia in Iraq, the Kataeb Hezbollah. The U.S. military said it was in retaliation for last week’s killing of an American contractor in a rocket attack on an Iraqi military base that it had blamed on the militia.

Dozens of protesters marched inside the compound after smashing the gate used by cars to enter the embassy. The protesters, many in militia uniform, stopped in a corridor after about 5 meters (16 feet), and were only about 200 meters away from the main building. Half a dozen U.S. soldiers were seen on the roof of the main building, their guns were pointed at the protesters.

Smoke from the tear gas rose in the area, and at least three of the protesters appeared to have difficulties breathing. It wasn’t immediately known whether the embassy staff had remained inside the main building.

The protesters hanged a poster on the wall: “America is an aggressor.”

Shouting “Down, Down USA,” the crowd tried to push inside the embassy grounds, hurling water and stones over its walls. They raised yellow militia flags and taunted the embassy’s security staff who remained behind the glass windows in the gates’ reception area. They sprayed graffiti on the wall and windows in red in support of the Kataeb Hezbollah militia: “Closed in the name of the resistance.”

Hundreds of angry protesters, some in militia uniforms, set up tents outside the embassy. As tempers rose, the mob set fire to three trailers used by security guards along the embassy wall.

No one was immediately reported hurt in the rampage and security staff had withdrawn to inside the embassy earlier, soon after protesters gathered outside.

The U.S. attack — the largest targeting an Iraqi state-sanctioned militia in recent years — and the subsequent calls by the militia for retaliation, represent a new escalation in the proxy war between the U.S. and Iran playing out in the Middle East.

Tuesday’s attempted embassy storming took place after mourners and supporters held funerals for the militia fighters killed in a Baghdad neighborhood, after which they marched on to the heavily fortified Green Zone and kept walking till they reached the sprawling U.S. Embassy there.

AP journalists then saw the crowd as they tried to scale the walls of the embassy, in what appeared to be an attempt to storm it, shouting “Down, down USA!” and “Death to America” and “Death to Israel.”

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Sunday’s strikes send the message that the U.S. will not tolerate actions by Iran that jeopardize American lives.

The Iranian-backed Iraqi militia had vowed Monday to retaliate for the U.S. military strikes. The attack and vows for revenge raised concerns of new attacks that could threaten American interests in the region.

The U.S. attack also outraged both the militias and the Iraqi government, which said it will reconsider its relationship with the U.S.-led coalition — the first time it has said it will do so since an agreement was struck to keep some U.S. troops in the country. It called the attack a “flagrant violation” of its sovereignty.

In a partly televised meeting Monday, Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi told Cabinet members that he had tried to stop the U.S. operation “but there was insistence” from American officials.

The U.S. military said “precision defensive strikes” were conducted against five sites of Kataeb Hezbollah, or Hezbollah Brigades in Iraq and Syria. The group, which is a separate force from the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah, operates under the umbrella of the state-sanctioned militias known collectively as the Popular Mobilization Forces. Many of them are supported by Iran.

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[Кот Бегемот]

Russian news are bullshit over the fact that it was a Russian made missile system. "Damned russophobes!!!"

Those things tend to shoot down more airliners than actual military planes. I don't know how hard it is too see a difference between a large commercial airliner on course than a military spy drone. Tor missiles are guided system that built in 1980's, yeah, Soviet Union is still killing.

I tried to find better images from the inside, here are similar Buk complex of similar vintage and "deeply modernized" still has the same green/orange CRT scopes from the 80s, just in case you are thinking about some highly computerized setup. Nope.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I wrote it in another thread, I think some sort of high ranking figure tried to desert the country and the Iranians discovered it too late. So they yeeted the plane instead. It makes more sense than "accidently" taking a plane flying out of the country for a cruise missile.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

So the Iranians are literally THIS incompetent.

 

[kcbbq]

100% with Qadaffi. Back in the 80s and even 90s? No - nigga was in insane, violent, and working with terrorists.
But post 9/11? Nigga had chilled waaaaaaaay the fuck out, had removed suicide kabob, and was largely playing ball with the rest of the world.
He was still fucking crazy, but now in a cheeky & fun "Living in a tent outside of the UN HQ and being waited on by his personal guard of stacked women" way and less in a cruel and tragic "sheltering insane violent revolutionaries and sending his busted-ass soviet export fighters against a carrier group" way.

Also unlike Saddam, his son and heir apparent was in no small part responsible for the flip in Qadaffi, as Saif is a rather rational, level headed guy who had he been allowed to take power would have likely continued reforms and opening up the country. Instead we have militia running around and enacting Madhi Max ultra-violence.

Qadaffi certainly eased up on sniffing his own farts after having to put on a dress and scurry away from his exploding palace. He lost a lot of expensive MiGs and Radar emplacements and transport aircraft on April 15th, 1986. (taxes due, bitch!)

Reagan so pissed about Libya offing one American serviceman in Germany that he almost broke out the F-117s, which were insanely secret at the time and invisible aircraft were still just a lunatic conspiracy theory and most of the generals didn't even know about them. Did break out the EF-111As for the first time, they were cool.

Sometimes come to Jesus meetings work.

Typically, France was douchey and uncooperative.

 

[MrJokerRager]

The US media is really going all out on trying to blame this on Trump, They are such good cheerleaders for the Ayatollah

Opinion | Iran and Trump likely broke international law. And 176 innocents paid the price.

Would the 176 souls who perished on that plane still be alive had the United States not sought to kill Gen. Qassem  Soleimani?

www.nbcnews.com

The face of the man who wrote this opinion piece. By the logic of this man, it was FDR's fault for Pearl Harbor had he not sanctioned the Imperial Japanese Empire or John Brown's fault that the civil war happened had he not murked the human rights of the slave owners.

Also fuck Geneva.

Gabor Rona

cardozo.yu.edu

gabor-rona | Cardozo Law

archived 11 Jan 2020 16:28:54 UTC

archive.li

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Rubin had a spook on talking about how CIA, the swamp and both sides of the isle are in bed with the large media companies.

 

[soy_king]

Typically, France was douchey and uncooperative.

Spoiler: Super OT

Francois Mitterand was one of the most annoyingly French presidents in the history of ever, so that's not surprising.
the only thing that makes him better than Macron was that he was actually memorable and not a massive cuck

Some quotes:

(About Thatcher) "She has the eyes of Caligula but the mouth of Marilyn Monroe"

France could have all the socialism its capitalistic economy could support.

 

[Neil]

Well I guess they wont bother to mess with the boxes now. Iran is admitting it was shot down.




https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News...t-down-in-Iran-due-to-human-error-Iran-613822

https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-...down-ukrainian-jetliner-according-to-state-tv

What a fucking shitshow. It's amazing how much of a botched, slipshod coverup job this was. Way to show how incompetent your goverment is, Iran. Maybe that'll make you think twice before trying to fuck with the biggest world superpower.

 

[LazloChalos]

On the positive side: Despite all their posturing the are scared shitless, even after their retaliatory rocket strike at buildings.

 

[Psyduck]

Fuckin Drumph

 

[BONE_Buddy]

Trump Administration revealed a few more details in a Fox News interview:
Trump tells Fox News' Laura Ingraham 'four embassies' were targeted in imminent threat from Iran
President Trump told Fox News’ Laura Ingraham in an exclusive interview Friday that the imminent threat from Iran that provoked the United States to kill Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani involved planned attacks on four U.S. embassies.

Asked specifically what was targeted, Trump revealed: “We will tell you that probably it was going to be the embassy in Baghdad.”

Pressed on whether large-scale attacks were planned for other embassies, the president said: “I can reveal that I believe it probably would’ve been four embassies.”

The full interview with the president will air Friday night at 10 p.m. ET on Fox News' “The Ingraham Angle.”

The American embassy in Baghdad had already been attacked on New Year’s Eve when demonstrators stormed the compound to protest American airstrikes against Iran-backed militia members.

But there has been confusion over whether additional attacks were being planned at the embassy after Trump told reporters Thursday that the U.S. killed Soleimani because “they were looking to blow up our embassy.”

The administration has repeatedly said that that strike was an act of self-defense to prevent what it has described as an “imminent threat” against U.S. interests and troops.

Earlier Friday, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was grilled on the specifics of that threat as reporters quizzed him on what “imminent” meant.

“We had specific information on an imminent threat and that threat stream included attacks on U.S. embassies. Period. Full stop,” he said. When later asked what he meant by imminent, he responded: “It was going to happen.”

During Friday's interview with Ingraham, the president was also asked about whether the Iraqi backlash to the Soleimani strike could lead to U.S. troops leaving Iraq.

“I’m OK with it,” Trump said before dismissing recent calls from Iraqi officials to begin planning for the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq. “That’s what they [the Iraqis] say publicly. They don’t say that privately,” Trump said.

Also during the interview, the president responded to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's announcement that Democrats will send impeachment articles to the Senate next week – after delaying the move for several weeks in a failed attempt to extract concessions from Republicans.

“I think it’s ridiculous,” Trump said. “She should have sent them a long time ago. It just belittles the process ... Nancy Pelosi will go down as the least successful speaker of the House in the history of our nation. She has done nothing."

After former national security adviser John Bolton said this week he would be willing to testify in the impeachment trial if called, Trump expressed concern about the precedent it would set. Asked if he would invoke executive privilege to stop it, Trump said, “Well, I think you have to for the sake of the office.”

-End of Article-​

Donald J. Trump on Twitter

“Where have the Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats gone when they have spent the last 3 days defending the life of Qassem Soleimani, one of the worst terrorists in history and the father of the roadside bomb? He was also looking to do big future damage! Dems are “unhinged.””

twitter.com

More about a passenger on the airliner:

Mike on Twitter

“The curse of Soleimani | In the aftermath of the downing of the Ukrainian plane, an Iranian newspaper revealed that an Iranian couple, Muhammad Saleh and his wife, who studied in Canada and who were on the plane, had been photographed with Qassem Soleimani. Why?”

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Mike on Twitter

“Apparently, Mohammed was a computer science genius. He was planning after graduating from the University of Toronto to return to Iran, where a position in one of the Revolutionary Guards cyber units awaited him.”

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Mike on Twitter

“The plane carried a number of Iranians attending Canadian universities. Mohammed reminds us of that special talent the US & Canada have for training up their adversaries, especially China & Iran, while giving them a change to study our vulnerabilities from an intimate distance.”

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Masih Alinejad 🏳️ on Twitter

“Protests erupt against the Revolutionary Guards at Amir-Kabir University in Tehran due to authorities' incompetence and negligence after the recent plane crash that killed more than 176 people. Some people had claimed Iranians were united after #Soleimani's death. Think again...

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Masih Alinejad 🏳️ on Twitter

“2-Students are chanting "Shameless Revolutionary Guards. Get your hands off our country" Iranians are indignant with the regime after the plane crash that claimed 176 lives. https://t.co/qOJ9Yi3N0a”

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Masih Alinejad 🏳️ on Twitter

“3-More protest videos from protests in Tehran against the Revolutionary Guards. Protests are anti-regime in character. They're chanting "murderer Khamenei"(Supreme Leader). Iranians are indignant with the regime after it compromised the lives of 176 people during a plane crash...

twitter.com

There was a crackdown on the protesters in Tehran, but the social media videos were pulled before I could get them.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

Mike on Twitter

“Apparently, Mohammed was a computer science genius. He was planning after graduating from the University of Toronto to return to Iran, where a position in one of the Revolutionary Guards cyber units awaited him.”

twitter.com

Mike on Twitter

“The plane carried a number of Iranians attending Canadian universities. Mohammed reminds us of that special talent the US & Canada have for training up their adversaries, especially China & Iran, while giving them a change to study our vulnerabilities from an intimate distance.”

twitter.com

Ex-CIA and NSA analysts have been working profitable contracts for UAE for years, basically teaching how to spy on the west as well as their own people.

Exclusive: Ex-NSA cyberspies reveal how they helped hack foes of UAE

Reuters reveals how a UAE surveillance operation, staffed by former U.S. cyber-agents, spied on dissidents, rivals and Americans. Inside 'Project Raven.'

www.reuters.com

 

[Кот Бегемот]

So the Iranians are literally THIS incompetent.

I can't say "incompetent", but these systems are pretty old. Shit, you can get a smartphone app with all the commercial flights indicated, which in this case would make life/death difference.

The tech is very old, there are many missile sights with a bunch of dudes who mostly trained on a simulator and probably not every month. Then add some pants shitting, because those fuckers know that there is literally no escape from their site, if Amecians want to invade, all those sites will be hit and vaporized in a flash.

 

[JosephStalin]

'...state agencies under his control have seen an increase in attempted cyber attacks by Iran in the past 48 hours — as many as ten thousand per minute — and blamed Iran. None of those attempts had been successful, he added.'

Iran fails again, this is getting embarrassing.

iran needs to worry about our cyberattacks. Best thing for them would be to STFU and let it go.

Have seen reports that the usual crazies are blaming the US for the shootdown. These are the rantings of people who have lost all connection with reality, suffering from chronic, if not terminal TDS. And only someone truly retarded would believe these rantings.

 

[WutangLee]

Qadaffi certainly eased up on sniffing his own farts after having to put on a dress and scurry away from his exploding palace. He lost a lot of expensive MiGs and Radar emplacements and transport aircraft on April 15th, 1986. (taxes due, bitch!)

Reagan so pissed about Libya offing one American serviceman in Germany that he almost broke out the F-117s, which were insanely secret at the time and invisible aircraft were still just a lunatic conspiracy theory and most of the generals didn't even know about them. Did break out the EF-111As for the first time, they were cool.

Gaddaffi has been turned into some benevolent Far=Right Martyr that opposed the Jews and Globalists, and a hero of socialism on the far-left, yet his entire career is basically a sitcom. He had an embarrassing 100% loss in wars (which for a fucking military coup is quite something) he basically neutered his own military so that his standing army (Armed People's on Duty) never went past Battalion level units. His defeat against Egypt is acceptable, but his defeats against Tanzania, Chad x2, and the shit cherry on the sundae, AlQaeda/ISIS/TheFrench alliance. His cheap rip off of the French Foreign Legion (The Islamic Legion) was made up poor bastards from Africa and Paksitan that had been promised work, instead suffered one of the worst desertion rates in any "ELITE" unit in the Cold War, and instead were force fed his Arab Supremacist garbage (Which I'm sure some Black African and Pakis enjoyed). His rip off of the IRGC (Jamahiriya Guard) was basically glorified thugs in nepotistic fashion hand chosen from his tribe, not the romanticized guardians of Islamic socialism. He even had his own son command what was virtually his Praetorian Guard (The Khamis Brigade), so when that unit was taken out in airstrikes, it was over. He had nothing.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

I can't say "incompetent", but these systems are pretty old. Shit, you can get a smartphone app with all the commercial flights indicated, which in this case would make life/death difference.

To be fair to the Iranians having any sort of device with software from Google, Apple or Microsoft in an Iranian military facility means that facility is gonna get droned once the balloon goes up and Google, Apple and Microsoft get National Security Letters demanding they dox all Iranian users and hand over all their data.

Then again the plane took off from an Iranian airport. It's not exactly rocket science for the Iranians to work out a way to tell SAM operators that "Hey this is a civilian airliner taking off from our airport. Please do not shoot it down" and if there's a war all those facilities are fucked in the US decides to fuck them.

But the people in charge in Iran are dumb thugs and probably it's not good for your health to even try to talk to military/security types there, even if you work at an airport. So you get shit like this happening.

It reminds me of Kanan Makiya's excellent 'Republic of Fear' when the Iraqis brought a bunch of foreign journalists to see an 'Iranian F-14' they'd shot down. One of the journalists asked why if it was an US made Iranian fighter the debris had markings in Russian rather than English and the propaganda ministry goons who'd brought them there look visibly scared and made them all leave.

The Iraqi propaganda ministry essentially evaporated during the invasion of Iraq when foreign press all turned up to be lied to but the entire ministry's staff decided to just not turn up for work. US tanks were soon to arrive and suddenly it was more dangerous to pro regime than anti regime.

There was actually some remarkable footage of an A-10 strafing government the planning ministry in Baghdad soon after that, which probably convinced anyone tempted to turn up for Iraqi government work that not doing so was in their best interests. Nothing says 'fucked regime' more than enemy close air support running out of tanks to destroy and strafing government ministries.

 

[Atomic Wangler]

Wait, if that couple had been known affiliates of Soleimani, why weren't they on a 'No-Fly' list somewhere?

 

[WutangLee]

Wait, if that couple had been known affiliates of Soleimani, why weren't they on a 'No-Fly' list somewhere?

They were just students I suppose, although, this would be the silver bullet to barring Iranian Expats from entering North America, just have to get through the Democratic outrage machine when they flail and screech about the orange man.

 

[Ghostse]

Trump administration announces new sanctions on Iran

The Trump administration announced new sanctions on Iran Friday targeting the country’s metals sector and several of its government leaders following Tehran’s missile attacks on Iraqi bases housing U.S.

thehill.com

Trump administration announces new sanctions on Iran
The Trump administration announced new sanctions on Iran Friday targeting the country’s metals sector and several of its government leaders following Tehran’s missile attacks on Iraqi bases housing U.S. troops earlier this week.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin held a press conference at the White House to detail the new measures, which President Trump promised were coming earlier in the week.

The new sanctions target the Iranian aluminum, copper, iron and steel industries. The U.S. is also sanctioning eight senior Iranian officials who were allegedly involved in Tuesday’s missile attacks against U.S. forces in Iraq.


“We are announcing additional sanctions on the Iranian regime as a result of the attack on U.S. and allied troops,” Mnuchin said. “Today’s sanctions are part of our commitment to stop the Iranian regime’s global terrorist activities.”

The sanctions target the largest manufacturers of steel, aluminum, copper and iron in Iran, which combine to produce billions of dollars in annual revenue, the officials said. The U.S. will also sanction 17 Iranian metals producers and mining companies with Friday's measure.

In addition to the sanctions, Trump will sign an executive order that targets revenue sources the Iranian government relies on to fund its nuclear program and its proxy networks. The order gives additional leeway to Pompeo and Mnuchin to impose additional sanctions on other sectors of the Iranian economy, such as its mining and textiles industries.

The announcement came days after the U.S. and Iran appeared to ease back from the prospect of a military conflict following an exchange of strikes from each side.

Trump approved a strike last week that killed top Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani in Baghdad after an Iranian-backed group was blamed for attacks that killed a U.S. contractor. U.S. officials have remained tight-lipped about the intelligence that led to the Soleimani strike, but have insisted the general posed an urgent threat to Americans.


In response to Soleimani’s death, Iran fired several missiles at two bases in Iraq that house U.S. forces and allied personnel. There were no casualties reported in the strikes, and Trump said the bases sustained limited damage.

Trump said in a Wednesday address to the nation that Iran appeared to be standing down and that he hoped for a peaceful resolution with Tehran. But in the meantime, he pledged to impose "punishing sanctions" over the missile strikes until Iran "changes its behavior."

The Trump administration has levied numerous sanctions on Tehran as part of its “maximum pressure campaign” against Iran that kicked off in earnest with the 2018 withdrawal from the Obama-era nuclear deal. Previous measures have targeted Iran’s supreme leader, its foreign minister and the country’s oil and metal industries in an effort to hamper the economy.

Mnuchin and Pompeo were adamant on Friday that the sanctions have been effective, even after the latest exchange of military strikes and even as Iran continues to exert influence in the Middle East.

“I think we have 100 percent confidence and we are consistent in our view that the economic sanctions are working,” Mnuchin said. “That if we didn’t have these sanctions in place, literally Iran would have tens of billions of dollars. They would be using that for terrorist activities throughout the region and to enable them to do more bad things.”

Pompeo argued that the sanctions have cut off revenue streams, putting Iran in dire financial straits that have forced it to reconsider whether to back proxy groups or invest in nuclear ambitions.

“This country has never been in the place they’ve been today,” he said. “They’ve got real challenges in figuring out how to make difficult decisions.”

-End of Article-​

More US sanctions to cut off revenue sources to the Iranian government.

Brilliant. I would like to see the Eurofags & Cucknadians meal mouth their way to not supporting these after Iran admits to downing a civilian airliner.

 

[GethN7]

This is the kind of situation where a little honesty and humility would be less damning than lying and misdirection.

There was a conflict with another country, tensions ran high, missiles and bombers were being prepped by both sides. It was a situation ripe for an innocent to be caught in the crossfire.

Even if Iran was indeed blameless, it would have been less pathetic to admit the possibility they might have gotten a bit trigger happy, cooperate fully, and if the facts warranted them admitting guilt, then an appropriate apology should have been issued.

Instead, they stonewalled, doubled down, and tried to pretend there was no smoke and fire in a clearly burning house, and now they look even worse for it.

 

[WutangLee]

Brilliant. I would like to see the Eurofags & Cucknadians meal mouth their way to not supporting these after Iran admits to downing a civilian airliner.

They'll try to weasel some shit through like last time, where they negotiate on the less hawkish factions, which led the cowards in the Obama admin basically getting on their knees and begging Iran for forgiveness, which I'm surprised Trump hasn't exploited. Wouldn't be surprised if they went as far as to negotiating directly with Nancy Pelosi. They're not very skilled at maneuvering as they've demonstrated to have less of an impact than Jordan in the Middle East. I say just put Greta on the T.V and have them drool over climate change instead of getting in the way of shit that matters.