Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

That's the KickVic PR line. "You don't sue your victims!" That victims are a protected class that cannot be questioned. Their word is gospel.

Nick has implied that had Vic hired a proper PR firm to go on the offensive, Monica and Jamie would have been crippled and discredited. The information they have on them would have ended their careers and forced them from the industry.

I think Vic held back because he didn't want the anime community to break apart. That he could be surgical, get them to recant and everyone could go back to business.

But Shane, Marzgurl, Renfamous and Manjaw are still stirring shit. They started going after convention agents. Shane is going after Todd Haberkorn for some insane reason. And Vic is still being hounded.

Vic is seeing that restraint didn't do any good. He didn't save the community. Time to go scorched Earth and starve the beasts.

However the community DID break apart, these people are a malignant cancer in human form and in order for the community to heal some necessary damage needed to be done.

Even victims are not above being criticized regardless of they are fakers or not. It's this mentality that has allowed people from KV to attack people with reckless abandon.
 
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I wonder if Renfamous and MarzGurl had anything to do with that. At the very least, I can see them encouraging their toadies to bully the owner.
They said themselves on a Livestream that they would contact the local paper and try to get any of Vic's events cancelled.

They don't give a shit about the mom & pop comic shop already struggling to keep the lights on. The only thing they are concerned with is their bias and their ego.
 
They said themselves on a Livestream that they would contact the local paper and try to get any of Vic's events cancelled.

They don't give a shit about the mom & pop comic shop already struggling to keep the lights on. The only thing they are concerned with is their bias and their ego.

How long before one of these idiots can be charged with harassment under bullying laws that states are pushing? These fucking idiots are writing everything down after all.
 
Nobody cares, BT. You're even more unknown than Emmett Plant.
He maybe more unknown but the sad fact is BT is slightly more memorable if only for his helmet and M’lady Monica attitude. He’s r.etarded but in a way that actually leaves an impression on the memory...even if pathetic.

Emmett is r.etarded but he’s so boring that I completely forget he exists like once a week until someone reminds me of his existence. Is it any wonder during Vic’s deposition he was all “Emmett who???”
 
They said themselves on a Livestream that they would contact the local paper and try to get any of Vic's events cancelled.

They don't give a shit about the mom & pop comic shop already struggling to keep the lights on. The only thing they are concerned with is their bias and their ego.
Bear in mind that this is the same crew that tried and failed to destroy Comicsgate. And I bring that up because when Mark Waid riled up the mob to keep Yaboi Zak from his deal with Antarctic Press, part of that included a bunch of shop owners with a private facebook group threatening to torpedo any shop not on board with the agenda.

So no. They dont care what businesses get destroyed if it means the agenda wins out in the end.

How long before one of these idiots can be charged with harassment under bullying laws that states are pushing? These fucking idiots are writing everything down after all.
It would help if the people being harassed/mobbed started filing police reports and archiving A L L instances of the attacks and attempts to fuck with their jobs/families etc, instead of just getting into twitter battles and hoping it all ends eventually.
 
The main thing that KV is doing that will cause Vic to glass them is attacking his fans, his supporters, and neutral parties like Huber. Vic has accepted that they are going to rake him over the coals and has been content to bide his time and go the long game route. But what Vic will not stand for is his fans being attacked. Remember why they hate him, because he actually cares about his fans. They think weebs are all fat smelly incels who only exist to give them money and despise Vic mingling with the peasants. But in all the chaos and adrenaline of their constant smears, virtue signals and asspats they have either forgotten about, or deluded their selvs of the fact that Vic legit cares about his fans. Think about what he said in that video, "dont let them bully you".

Up to this point Vic has silently martyred humself for the law suit, wanting to let the other side show their malice and vitriol becaus him and BHBH know how that will look in front of a jury and they know the risk vs reward does not favor vic lashing out. He would be giving the other side a gotcha no matter how small it was. But I think as soon as appeals spikes tge ball down funimorons throat, first thing that happens is funi settles, second thing is Vic and Ty, and Rackets glass these motherfuckers from orbit. Leaks, PR interviews, speeches, possible second wave suits, definatly second wave C&D's the works. Vic will burn them to the ground.

TL;DR Vic is biting his tongue until appeals finish, but KV attacking his fans causes his temper to flare.
 
The main thing that KV is doing that will cause Vic to glass them is attacking his fans, his supporters, and neutral parties like Huber. Vic has accepted that they are going to rake him over the coals and has been content to bide his time and go the long game route. But what Vic will not stand for is his fans being attacked. Remember why they hate him, because he actually cares about his fans. They think weebs are all fat smelly incels who only exist to give them money and despise Vic mingling with the peasants. But in all the chaos and adrenaline of their constant smears, virtue signals and asspats they have either forgotten about, or deluded their selvs of the fact that Vic legit cares about his fans. Think about what he said in that video, "dont let them bully you".

Up to this point Vic has silently martyred humself for the law suit, wanting to let the other side show their malice and vitriol becaus him and BHBH know how that will look in front of a jury and they know the risk vs reward does not favor vic lashing out. He would be giving the other side a gotcha no matter how small it was. But I think as soon as appeals spikes tge ball down funimorons throat, first thing that happens is funi settles, second thing is Vic and Ty, and Rackets glass these motherfuckers from orbit. Leaks, PR interviews, speeches, possible second wave suits, definatly second wave C&D's the works. Vic will burn them to the ground.

TL;DR Vic is biting his tongue until appeals finish, but KV attacking his fans causes his temper to flare.
Remember, all these people wanted everything public. I can’t wait to see how they react once something is revealed in discovery.

Oh, and guess who responded to Vic’s Livestream? I know, I’m shocked too. (Cross-post)
And here it is and I'm blocked
 
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Shane is going after Todd Haberkorn for some insane reason.
I think Shane is going after Todd because Pridemore ran HERSELF into a corner trying to insert herself into the Vic thing and if he doesn't try to dogpile Todd on a case that I think no one really wants then he's outed as a giant hypocrite. I wonder if JP really looked at it as the pseudo-rape she presented it as, or if it was a convenient story to paste onto the other. It always came across as disingenuous to me that Pridemore basically said:

Let me talk about Vic <insert very long story that sounds rapey> that wasn't Vic but, this kind of thing happens all the time in this industry. So we need to drive people like Vic out of it.

Because she explicitly left Todd's name out of it, I don't know that she actually intended to go after Todd. But then Todd looked at what was happening to Vic and realized "that could be #metoo" and jumped to defend himself before the ball got rolling on cancelling him. And since the STORY as presented was worse than anything Vic was accused of, it's either "Todd is bad" or "clearly there's a vendetta against Vic".
 
He maybe more unknown but the sad fact is BT is slightly more memorable if only for his helmet and M’lady Monica attitude. He’s r.etarded but in a way that actually leaves an impression on the memory...even if pathetic.

Emmett is r.etarded but he’s so boring that I completely forget he exists like once a week until someone reminds me of his existence. Is it any wonder during Vic’s deposition he was all “Emmett who???”

Emmett thinks he's relevant and wants to be popular/famous while BT is fine with perpetually holding the snack tray.
 
Emmett thinks he's relevant and wants to be popular/famous while BT is fine with perpetually holding the snack tray.
You know maybe that’s it. BT knows his place is firmly gluing his lips to Monica and Jamie’s asscheeks while he holds the tray.

Emmett keeps trying to get senpais to notice him when his place is firmly next to BT with the snack tray.
 
That's the KickVic PR line. "You don't sue your victims!" That victims are a protected class that cannot be questioned. Their word is gospel.

Nick has implied that had Vic hired a proper PR firm to go on the offensive, Monica and Jamie would have been crippled and discredited. The information they have on them would have ended their careers and forced them from the industry.

I think Vic held back because he didn't want the anime community to break apart. That he could be surgical, get them to recant and everyone could go back to business.

But Shane, Marzgurl, Renfamous and Manjaw are still stirring shit. They started going after convention agents. Shane is going after Todd Haberkorn for some insane reason. And Vic is still being hounded.

Vic is seeing that restraint didn't do any good. He didn't save the community. Time to go scorched Earth and starve the beasts.
Just out of genuine curiosity, what would happen if he got a PR firm now? Just hypothetically speaking.
 
Just out of genuine curiosity, what would happen if he got a PR firm now? Just hypothetically speaking.
Basically their job would be to destroy anyone that tried to fuck with Vic, anything that could be used to damage their reputation would be used, any work opportunities would be muddled with, Sabat withholding roles for sex? They would make a documentary and spread it as far as they possibly could, make Sabat a known rapist in the eyes of the public.

Ron, pull all his dirty laundry out of his closet and then make Monica complicit of it, then not only complicit but outright supportive, say the only reason she got with Ron was that she got excited thinking of him hitting other women, and that he blackmailed the Yost twins for sexual favors for him and Monica by holding housing and work as collateral.

Marchi, hire a psychiatrist that says she is certifiably crazy and that she has a litany of other issues, so it's not her fault but anything she says can't be trusted at face value.

Repeat this for every single idiot of any significance, a good PR firm would do this, and by doing this, they would essentially kill them, at least in the social and working aspects.
 
Basically their job would be to destroy anyone that tried to fuck with Vic, anything that could be used to damage their reputation would be used, any work opportunities would be muddled with, Sabat withholding roles for sex? They would make a documentary and spread it as far as they possibly could, make Sabat a known rapist in the eyes of the public.

Ron, pull all his dirty laundry out of his closet and then make Monica complicit of it, then not only complicit but outright supportive, say the only reason she got with Ron was that she got excited thinking of him hitting other women, and that he blackmailed the Yost twins for sexual favors for him and Monica by holding housing and work as collateral.

Marchi, hire a psychiatrist that says she is certifiably crazy and that she has a litany of other issues, so it's not her fault but anything she says can't be trusted at face value.

Repeat this for every single idiot of any significance, a good PR firm would do this, and by doing this, they would essentially kill them, at least in the social and working aspects.
While I’m wondering who’s gonna take on Vic, and Nick has insinuated that he has a whole bunch of shit on standby, I’m just seeing these fuckers (especially Sabat) having a repeat of the R Kelly interview.
 
Basically their job would be to destroy anyone that tried to fuck with Vic, anything that could be used to damage their reputation would be used, any work opportunities would be muddled with, Sabat withholding roles for sex? They would make a documentary and spread it as far as they possibly could, make Sabat a known rapist in the eyes of the public.

Ron, pull all his dirty laundry out of his closet and then make Monica complicit of it, then not only complicit but outright supportive, say the only reason she got with Ron was that she got excited thinking of him hitting other women, and that he blackmailed the Yost twins for sexual favors for him and Monica by holding housing and work as collateral.

Marchi, hire a psychiatrist that says she is certifiably crazy and that she has a litany of other issues, so it's not her fault but anything she says can't be trusted at face value.

Repeat this for every single idiot of any significance, a good PR firm would do this, and by doing this, they would essentially kill them, at least in the social and working aspects.
I'm sad that he didn't get it before, but that's what I'm saying. If we say hypothetically say that Vic cracks up now of his soft & sweet shell & actually hires a PR firm right now, What could the result be?

Like, majority of people who are not shillfags [BT, DB-Speds (except 2), etc.], know how bad they all are already even without knowing the Vic situation. How could they ruin it more, then they did themselves?
 
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I'm sad that he didn't get it before, but that's what I'm saying. If we say hypothetically say that Vic cracks up now of his soft & sweet shell & actually hires a PR firm right now, What could the result be?

Like, majority of people who are not shillfags [BT, DB-Speds (except 2), etc.], know how bad they all are already even without knowing the Vic situation. How could they ruin it more, then they did themselves?
You saw the crap Lamon was doing with the Dallas paper? Imagine that but actually working, it costs a lot, but getting big papers and news sites to cover all the reprehensible shit KV has done, plus adding more wood to the fire, making it so that KV is essentially on so much fire that no company would even touch them.

Have a coordinated group of people that would bombard any conventions that hired KV with negative comments, and links to "reputable" news sites, documentaries, written testimonials, interviews, etc.

Essentially what they tried to do to Vic would be done to them, difference is, that they actually have reprehensible things that would make them un hirable.

The thing with this method is that you essentially kill their careers, make them social pariahs and drive any semblance of support they might have to the ground. Odds are that if Vic had done this that might have actually killed some people.

Edit, This is the true meaning of going nuclear, yes your enemy doesn't survive, but the fallout will negatively affect you forever. Vic would have always been the guy that indirectly caused the dead of someone.

If he did that now however, well they had their chance to back off, of scaling down, they didn't, if Vic went Nuclear on them, he could probably come out smelling like roses.
 
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