Fat Acceptance Movement / Fat Girlcows

[Harkonnendometriosis]

I made the mistake of looking at Jay's twitter, which led me to Corissa's.

Corissa feels concerns about human trafficking are anti-sex worker, and therefor bad and wrong. I'm not sure I could despise this pampered ball of lard and sanctimony any more.

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What a cunting idiot.

 

[JuniperFalls]

I can't believe her argument is that it isn't happening as much as they claim, so it's no big deal. I'm sure it's a big deal to those women and children who are being trafficked. And I'm sure they'd be pissed that she's advocating not getting upset over it because she's worried that it will make regular sex work (and the sex workers who often get into because of equally fucked up reasons -- like childhood molestation or drug addictions) look bad.

I think I know what she's talking about here, and there is a bit of truth buried under the BS but it's impossible to see if you don't already know about it (kind of like how there is a normal-sized human skeleton underneath all her flab, but you'd never guess this if you didn't already know about ordinary human bone structure). The complaint is that "human trafficking" statistics include consenting-adult prostitutes, and refuse to listen to those women when they say they are doing this by choice.

Last year there was some big news story from Florida: right around the time of the Super Bowl, cops went to a massage parlor, arrested everybody there and bragged about breaking up a "sex trafficking ring" -- then a couple months later, had to admit there was no "trafficking" at all; those women were there voluntarily. But before the cops and prosecutors admitted their lies, various pro-sex work bloggers (more precisely, various pro-consenting adult sex work bloggers) asked some very good questions which never got answered: such as, when cops bragged about all the people they arrested in the course of "rescuing" these alleged victims of trafficking, did those arrest statistics include the victims themselves? (Likely answer: yes.) Where are these women now? (Likely answer: in jail, and since it's an American jail they are almost certainly being horribly mistreated and were subject to frequent strip searches and cavity searches, but let's not pretend they're being treated in a dehumanizing manner or anything.) These women who were allegedly rescued -- are any of them allowed to talk to the media? (Answer: no.) Can we even know who they are and what their names are, in case their families are worried? No. Does their being "rescued" mean they now have a criminal record making them ineligible for many legitimate jobs? Yes.

Tl;dr: If you are going to make somebody an inmate of the American prison/jail system, you are not "making that person's life better" or "saving them from inhumane sexual exploitation" -- you are destroying that person's life and setting them up to be exploited. So if you want to "help" a prostitute make a better life for herself, siccing the American police on her is not the way to do it.

 

[Poop Shoot]

I just don't understand why everything always has to be in absolutes. It's ok to have mixed emotions over something. It's ok to admit one decisions will have negative consequences for others.


That's how life fucking works.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

 

[Otterly]

She’s doing the SJW thing where you make an objection to a general thing personal. So saying you think sex trafficking is bad is twisted to be ‘ i hate all sex workers.’ The argument is then derailed by the person having to justify why they don’t actually hate sex workers, just sex trafficking. Really it should be obvious that anyone with an ounce of compassion can think sex trafficking and the sex industry is general is bad because you have compassion for those forced into it.

 

[Spastic Colon]

She’s doing the SJW thing where you make an objection to a general thing personal. So saying you think sex trafficking is bad is twisted to be ‘ i hate all sex workers.’ The argument is then derailed by the person having to justify why they don’t actually hate sex workers, just sex trafficking. Really it should be obvious that anyone with an ounce of compassion can think sex trafficking and the sex industry is general is bad because you have compassion for those forced into it.

I actually think all sex work is bad. It is demeaning. Some things shouldn't be sold. Period. But, if women choose to do that, that is one thing. I think they are making a bad choice, but it is their choice to make. Although some of them make that choice because they have a history of child molestation or they need to fund a drug habit. Still a bad choice, but since our society makes it hard for people like this to get the help they need, I have sympathy for people like this who do it.

The people I do judge for it are girls/guys who come from middle class or richer homes who do it as a form of rebellion or to be edgy or because they are too lazy to get a real job, especially if all they are doing is cam whoring. I can't stand "sex workers" like that. Because they think that their experience with sex work is normal when it is far from the reality for the majority of women and men doing sex work. When they advocate for it, they don't have any understanding of what it would be like to have to actually have sex with poor, unwashed, hideously ugly people who may or may not want to knock you around while they do it and there's a chance you might not make it out alive.

People forced into though aren't sex workers, they're rape and kidnapping victims. Entirely different. I might judge the people who make that choice (like Corissa), but I'm not judging the people who are forced into it.

And who is telling Corissa that she looks like she is under 30? Maybe young teens. They think 30 is super old so they might not realize that she's older than that. But, she looks closer to 50 ... no one is thinking this is a girl in her 20s.

 

[JambledUpWords]

And who is telling Corissa that she looks like she is under 30? Maybe young teens. They think 30 is super old so they might not realize that she's older than that. But, she looks closer to 50 ... no one is thinking this is a girl in her 20s.

Corrissa should be seen as a cautionary tale. FA when they’re young, love to think that they will stay young looking. What they don’t realize is how much staying fat will age you. There’s a reason why you don’t see FA that are above age 35, at the forefront of the movement. On top of that, the health problems accelerate much quicker than for people of normal weight. Looking like Corrissa should deter more people from eating themselves to death, but FA are delusional at heart, so they may think they’re immune to issues older FA have.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

The people I do judge for it are girls/guys who come from middle class or richer homes who do it as a form of rebellion or to be edgy or because they are too lazy to get a real job, especially if all they are doing is cam whoring. I can't stand "sex workers" like that. Because they think that their experience with sex work is normal when it is far from the reality for the majority of women and men doing sex work. When they advocate for it, they don't have any understanding of what it would be like to have to actually have sex with poor, unwashed, hideously ugly people who may or may not want to knock you around while they do it and there's a chance you might not make it out alive.

That's the reality of sex work worldwide.

Last time I went to a medical conference in Japan there were pimps outside the conference building advertising foreign girls. Like, specifically foreign girls from Thailand. Not nice Japanese girls, that would be wrong.

 

[ThoughtsAndPrayers]

I'm hoping Corissa will make an response to Alan Roberts

 

[Chamaelirium]

I made the mistake of looking at Jay's twitter, which led me to Corissa's.

Corissa feels concerns about human trafficking are anti-sex worker, and therefor bad and wrong. I'm not sure I could despise this pampered ball of lard and sanctimony any more.

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Third wave loonybin feminism is about promiscuity in the form "sex positivity" and selling your body to a motley assortment of seedy johns, mutilating yourself with hormones and surgery to troon out, and eating yourself into immobility and an early grave.

These are the things they go hard and shout from the rooftops for. thank god for feminists who ensured that women could work and own a checking account and pushed back against things like sex pests in the workplace but these third wavers are an abomination. There are women still fighting for women's spaces and dignity, but those are "Terfs" of course who third wavers hate more than the men who rape and mutilate women.

 

[JuniperFalls]

And who is telling Corissa that she looks like she is under 30?

Possibly Martians? In Martian years, she hasn't even turned eighteen yet.

 

[Angry New Ager]

And who is telling Corissa that she looks like she is under 30? Maybe young teens. They think 30 is super old so they might not realize that she's older than that. But, she looks closer to 50 ... no one is thinking this is a girl in her 20s.

Nah--to young teens, she'd look like somebody's grandma.

The people who tell Corissa she looks younger than she is are all other women--and women lie to each other all the fucking time.

Sometimes it's malicious, but usually it's part of a culture of "niceness." That "niceness" has always been there, but it's grown immensely worse since the '80s, with the birth of the self-esteem movement, and an ever-increasing push in advertising and self-help circles to see every woman as "beautiful."

Now, it's obvious that not every woman is beautiful, and if second-wave feminism should have taught us anything it's that a woman doesn't have to be beautiful to be a worthy, accomplished, valuable human being. But that wasn't going to sell Dove beauty products, or Glamour Shots sessions, or "makeover" shows, or myriad other products and services, so through the power of advertising, we're now supposed to believe that every woman is beautiful, even if she obviously isn't, and that you're doing a great thing by affirming that she is.

Telling another woman that she's pretty, or looks amazing, when actually she looks like warmed-over shit in a leaky Walmart bag, isn't actually being kind and supportive--but it allows the person saying it to feel like she is, and if she does it on social media, others get to see how kind and supportive she is. There is a lot of egotism behind the giving of unwarranted compliments, even if the giver herself can't see or admit to it.

I see this all the fucking time in various sewing groups. Whenever a fat woman posts a pic of her latest garment, the rush to tell her how beautiful she looks is on. If it's skimpy, and shows a lot of skin, add "brave" to beautiful, with commenters telling her how they wish they had her confidence. Now, the garment might actually fit her, and be obviously well-made, but scarcely anybody points that out; it's still just one big, mad rush to tell her she's beautiful.

So is it any wonder that Corissa--fat, gravel-faced, alarmingly unhealthy-looking, and rapidly-aging Corissa--gets told she looks so youthful and lovely?

 

[Whatthefuck]

Nah--to young teens, she'd look like somebody's grandma.

The people who tell Corissa she looks younger than she is are all other women--and women lie to each other all the fucking time.

Sometimes it's malicious, but usually it's part of a culture of "niceness." That "niceness" has always been there, but it's grown immensely worse since the '80s, with the birth of the self-esteem movement, and an ever-increasing push in advertising and self-help circles to see every woman as "beautiful."

Now, it's obvious that not every woman is beautiful, and if second-wave feminism should have taught us anything it's that a woman doesn't have to be beautiful to be a worthy, accomplished, valuable human being. But that wasn't going to sell Dove beauty products, or Glamour Shots sessions, or "makeover" shows, or myriad other products and services, so through the power of advertising, we're now supposed to believe that every woman is beautiful, even if she obviously isn't, and that you're doing a great thing by affirming that she is.

Telling another woman that she's pretty, or looks amazing, when actually she looks like warmed-over shit in a leaky Walmart bag, isn't actually being kind and supportive--but it allows the person saying it to feel like she is, and if she does it on social media, others get to see how kind and supportive she is. There is a lot of egotism behind the giving of unwarranted compliments, even if the giver herself can't see or admit to it.

I see this all the fucking time in various sewing groups. Whenever a fat woman posts a pic of her latest garment, the rush to tell her how beautiful she looks is on. If it's skimpy, and shows a lot of skin, add "brave" to beautiful, with commenters telling her how they wish they had her confidence. Now, the garment might actually fit her, and be obviously well-made, but scarcely anybody points that out; it's still just one big, mad rush to tell her she's beautiful.

So is it any wonder that Corissa--fat, gravel-faced, alarmingly unhealthy-looking, and rapidly-aging Corissa--gets told she looks so youthful and lovely?

My guess is that you're 100% correct. The only people telling her she looks youthful and beautiful are other infinifats that look just as bad if not worse.

 

[Spastic Colon]

Nah--to young teens, she'd look like somebody's grandma.

The people who tell Corissa she looks younger than she is are all other women--and women lie to each other all the fucking time.

Sometimes it's malicious, but usually it's part of a culture of "niceness." That "niceness" has always been there, but it's grown immensely worse since the '80s, with the birth of the self-esteem movement, and an ever-increasing push in advertising and self-help circles to see every woman as "beautiful."

Now, it's obvious that not every woman is beautiful, and if second-wave feminism should have taught us anything it's that a woman doesn't have to be beautiful to be a worthy, accomplished, valuable human being. But that wasn't going to sell Dove beauty products, or Glamour Shots sessions, or "makeover" shows, or myriad other products and services, so through the power of advertising, we're now supposed to believe that every woman is beautiful, even if she obviously isn't, and that you're doing a great thing by affirming that she is.

Telling another woman that she's pretty, or looks amazing, when actually she looks like warmed-over shit in a leaky Walmart bag, isn't actually being kind and supportive--but it allows the person saying it to feel like she is, and if she does it on social media, others get to see how kind and supportive she is. There is a lot of egotism behind the giving of unwarranted compliments, even if the giver herself can't see or admit to it.

I see this all the fucking time in various sewing groups. Whenever a fat woman posts a pic of her latest garment, the rush to tell her how beautiful she looks is on. If it's skimpy, and shows a lot of skin, add "brave" to beautiful, with commenters telling her how they wish they had her confidence. Now, the garment might actually fit her, and be obviously well-made, but scarcely anybody points that out; it's still just one big, mad rush to tell her she's beautiful.

So is it any wonder that Corissa--fat, gravel-faced, alarmingly unhealthy-looking, and rapidly-aging Corissa--gets told she looks so youthful and lovely?

That is one of my pet peeves with the FA movement. They are simply asking to lower the standards when we judge women's beauty. They are not arguing that we shouldn't be judging that beauty in the first place. I think it is fine for women to be beautiful and for that to be celebrated. I just don't think that is the only thing women should be celebrated for. Someone with a brilliant mind shouldn't also have to be pretty in order for us to think she is worthy. I don't know why young feminists can't seem to grasp that concept.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Nah--to young teens, she'd look like somebody's grandma.

The people who tell Corissa she looks younger than she is are all other women--and women lie to each other all the fucking time.

Sometimes it's malicious, but usually it's part of a culture of "niceness." That "niceness" has always been there, but it's grown immensely worse since the '80s, with the birth of the self-esteem movement, and an ever-increasing push in advertising and self-help circles to see every woman as "beautiful."

Now, it's obvious that not every woman is beautiful, and if second-wave feminism should have taught us anything it's that a woman doesn't have to be beautiful to be a worthy, accomplished, valuable human being. But that wasn't going to sell Dove beauty products, or Glamour Shots sessions, or "makeover" shows, or myriad other products and services, so through the power of advertising, we're now supposed to believe that every woman is beautiful, even if she obviously isn't, and that you're doing a great thing by affirming that she is.

Telling another woman that she's pretty, or looks amazing, when actually she looks like warmed-over shit in a leaky Walmart bag, isn't actually being kind and supportive--but it allows the person saying it to feel like she is, and if she does it on social media, others get to see how kind and supportive she is. There is a lot of egotism behind the giving of unwarranted compliments, even if the giver herself can't see or admit to it.

I see this all the fucking time in various sewing groups. Whenever a fat woman posts a pic of her latest garment, the rush to tell her how beautiful she looks is on. If it's skimpy, and shows a lot of skin, add "brave" to beautiful, with commenters telling her how they wish they had her confidence. Now, the garment might actually fit her, and be obviously well-made, but scarcely anybody points that out; it's still just one big, mad rush to tell her she's beautiful.

So is it any wonder that Corissa--fat, gravel-faced, alarmingly unhealthy-looking, and rapidly-aging Corissa--gets told she looks so youthful and lovely?

In this day and age, beauty is a word that’s become cheapened. Much like the word “love”, it is thrown around and bestowed upon everyone. In real life, most people rarely get told they are “beautiful”. On the internet, it’s a word given to everyone that is outside the norm, and posts pictures of themselves. On the internet, it is sometimes used as a word of deception.

There is also too much of a focus on outer beauty, not helped at all by the FA movement and social media. The pursuit of outer beauty by the FA movement is one of the weirdest aspects of the movement itself. On one hand, FA will say that their size shouldn’t matter, and that they should be accepted into normal society, even if they don’t fit into what is conventionally attractive. On the other hand, the same FA will spend tons of money on shapewear, makeup, clothes, and beauty treatments to fit into conventional beauty standards (minus the weight). Tess Holliday is one of the best examples of this, especially with her use of photoshop and efforts to create a “waistline” in her pictures.

 

[Refrigerator Poet]

I was not prepared for that full body shot at the weigh-in. I just was not prepared. We don’t see her from the front like that very often, so that was a bit of a shock, given that I don’t actually think of her as standing up. Like, ever.

She's such a moron. It is rooted in fear of the dark. Not everything is about race. In fact, she's the racist for making that assumption.

People are right to be afraid of the dark. You never know what’s hiding in it. Could be clowns. Could be a salad. We’ve all got our own boogeymen.

 

[AbraCadaver]

If you're tired of Lizzo, you're in luck! Wait calmly for these leviathans to eat Lizzo alive. It's what they do. It's what they always do. They will eventually cancel her, and find an even fatter and more vulgar role model because that is the life cycle of the woke bitch. After the initial couple of years of "YAS QUEEN!" Lizzo will forget that she is performing for jealous, useless, covetous hyenas who will slowly turn on her for being wealthy and not individually inviting each of them to come live with her and be their bestie. She will pay for this, oh yes she will pay.

They will dig through her life and find, and all of these are speculative guesses:
--that she keeps a small orphan in her luggage that she uses to sew her into her monstrous costumes before she performs
--the mentally handicapped classmate she was maybe-sorta mean to in junior high
--the drug dealing ex she defends at all costs and he's not even good looking
--she knows where Saudi Arabia is on a map because she performed there
--that time she got impatient when a transwoman insisted on showing her his neovagina on the subway
--that she once owned a dog whose vaccination records were not up to date
--that she didn't leave her Asian immigrant nail tech a good enough tip

These are woke war crimes. She will be sent to a gulag and force-fed Cheetos and Mountain Dew until they decide she can finally apologize and if she doesn't apologize correctly - which she can't, no one can - she will be consigned to her shameful fate forever. Woe betide the fag on Twitter who mentions with praise her latest album for he shall be sent there with her, but will be kept in a different cell lest he try to fix her weave.

These women cannot enjoy a performer for their talent. They must embody all of the woke SJW ideals without any deviation, a fairly difficult task, and they will unperson her the moment they get bored of her shaking her naked ass at kids at ball games. Lizzo's days are numbered, as are the days of anyone who builds their careers around catering to these assholes.

No, she’ll get cancelled for the usual reason: she’ll get older, a doctor will warn her about her health problems like bad knees, bad back, diabetes, hormonal imbalance, and she’ll have to drop some weight, and fans will call her a traitor and a shill for DIeT cULtuRe.

 

[JuniperFalls]

Lilith Fury says the body positivity movement is not for thin cis people (she also seems to think thin cis people cannot also be disabled or belong to a minority group, but nevermind that):

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I just thought of something else: even if we take Lilith's argument at face value, what about a woman who is everything Lilith hates here: thin/normal-weight, "cisgender", heterosexual, white, healthy and able-bodied ... but she also happens to be very small-breasted/flat-chested? Such a woman likely has and does face body shaming over that, especially if she is a teenager/adolescent -- but according to Lilith, she is shit out of luck because "the body positivity movement is not yours."

What about a woman who is the exact opposite: thin white cis etc., but she has unusually large breasts? She too has faced shaming over that, sneers about being a slut or not very bright, has a difficult time finding professional clothing that fits her without calling "undue" attention to her breasts ... I guarantee she also has faced grief over an aspect of her body she can't even control (the way Lilith could control her weight by not eating and drinking so much high-calorie garbage), but Lilith presumably wouldn't let THAT woman join the "body positivity" movement either.

How about the thin white cis etc. woman who's in decent shape for her age but feeling low because, after she had her baby she never got her pre-pregnancy body back, and she feels especially self-conscious about the stretch marks all over her belly, and although she looks good when she's fully dressed she'll never look sexy in a bikini again .... I suppose Lilith believes the body positivity movement is not for her either.

ETA:

Nah--to young teens, she'd look like somebody's grandma.

The people who tell Corissa she looks younger than she is are all other women--and women lie to each other all the fucking time.

Sometimes it's malicious, but usually it's part of a culture of "niceness." That "niceness" has always been there, but it's grown immensely worse since the '80s, with the birth of the self-esteem movement, and an ever-increasing push in advertising and self-help circles to see every woman as "beautiful."

Your comment reminds me of a scene in Gone With the Wind (book, not movie), when Scarlett is thinking about the rules governing how young women must behave to have a "good reputation" -- this was the rule for interacting with other young women:

With young girls and young married women, you slopped over with
sugar and kissed them every time you met them, even if it was ten
times a day. And you put your arms about their waists and
suffered them to do the same to you, no matter how much you
disliked it. You admired their frocks or their babies
indiscriminately and teased about beaux and complimented husbands
and giggled modestly and denied that you had any charms at all
compared with theirs. And, above all, you never said what you
really thought about anything, any more than they said what they
really thought.

 

[dismissfrogs]

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she looks like that divorced guys over 40 on dating apps meme

 

[FitBitch]

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That's funny shit. She looks older than some women I've taken care of in nursing homes. All she needs is a wheelchair. No one tells this bitch she's gonna die before thirty because she looks like she's sixty.