Horrorcow Kristina Paige Klein / Krissy Klein / Klein Journey of Hope - Fundie Christian mom, turns her daughters into frankendolls with repeated brain surgeries, either MbP or worst case of taking dr's advice ever

[a bootiful jung woman]

Shit, I forgot about that one, don't even remember their names, lesbo couple had six adopted kids for the whole "rainbow family" thing and kept moving whenever people started assembling the pieces. One of their kids hugged a cop at some BLM rally and the pic went viral, then the entire fucking internet started rooting around in their lives. In the end, all eight of them were packed into a SUV and drove off an ocean cliff in northwest California in the middle of the night. Somebody camping nearby said they heard the car go over, complete with screaming kids. In a case like that one can only hope for an afterlife of perfect justice. The positive is that the kids will no longer be suffering, at least.

The Hart family. It wasn't MBP but they were neglected and malnourished for sure.

 

[homewayhalf]

Shit, I forgot about that one, don't even remember their names, lesbo couple had six adopted kids for the whole "rainbow family" thing and kept moving whenever people started assembling the pieces. One of their kids hugged a cop at some BLM rally and the pic went viral, then the entire fucking internet started rooting around in their lives. In the end, all eight of them were packed into a SUV and drove off an ocean cliff in northwest California in the middle of the night. Somebody camping nearby said they heard the car go over, complete with screaming kids. In a case like that one can only hope for an afterlife of perfect justice. The positive is that the kids will no longer be suffering, at least.

Fuck, MbP psychos make me so fucking pissed, I'm wiping tears right now. How the fuck could a mom do that to her own flesh and blood, and claim to be a fucking CHRISTIAN at the same fucking time? Remember Jesus saying "As you did it to the least of them, you did it to Me."???? Jani and Bodhi got lucky, although Bodhi in particular will likely always be in a mental fog or something. The worst case is minivan over a cliff.

I’m pretty sure the screaming kids shit is fan fiction due to the fact that they were doped up, but yeah, that one’s a doozy.

 

[Comandante Marcos]

The second sentence of my second paragraph refers to Krissy Klein, not the Harts. Also to the MbP demon who has just popped up in this thread whose daughter has endured 34+ brain surgeries so that her mom can get asspats and pitybux. When you hack up your kid's noggin to that point, the kid is a de facto zombie. With the drugs Susan Schofield gave her kids, some recovery might be possible. But when the surgeons saw open the kid's skull and chop up the actual physical wetware, that's all folks, the damage is permanent.

And Krissy is bragging about having Aveahna's BRAIN STEM hacked up. Enough damage to the stem and the kid's a big rotting veggie for LIFE. I've heard about cases where surgeons fuck up the stem, and the patient is only kept alive with machines, some cases they can blink once for yes and twice for no and that's it, which for the sufferer must be a horror that is impossible for anybody else to comprehend.

As for the Harts, dunno if the report of the screams of "Mom! Mom! Mom!" are true or not, but still it's the worst case scenario. Krissy keeps talking about the Evil Internet Haydurs making her want to end it all, I think she realizes that the gig is about up and that she's looking at a long fucking prison sentence. Our rules here about archiving fucking everything will prove handy for the prosecutors after Krissy goes on a DFE spree as the cops close in. Null has stated clearly that he cooperates with US subpoenas.

 

[Tungay]

This all just gives me huge Dee Dee Blanchard vibes, like it's uncanny. The good thing about Dee Dee is that the bitch was rightfully murdered in an act of vengeance, these kids most likely couldn't even get that as an option. While there could be some truth behind their medical diagnostics, not much coming from someone who isn't profoundly knowledgable in anything outside of basic first aid, but there's enough posted torment these kids are going through and subsequent flaunting of these medical issues all done by this bitch. Who's to say she's not trying to do the same thing Dee Dee did to her daughter? Rather than poisoning her kids, she's intentionally debilitating them and making them suffer all for the attention and the money. Do you honestly believe that all the money her PayPal rakes in is going towards medical bills? They're a picturesque upper-middle-class, white, suburban family, even with as much as hospital trips and surgery costs, they're more than likely to have insurance to cover at least some portion of it. She talks about trips, shows professionally done photographs of her family often, they're all seen wearing highly decent clothes, she buys things to "spoil" her kids, all photos taken in and around her home show that the place isn't just some fix-er-up that they're squeezed into. She's not just crippling her children with the money she makes with these fundraisers, they're living off them in the wrong ways. One could only hope that this turns into another mutiny case where the kids turn on their batshit crazy mom like what happened with the Blanchard family.

 

[SituationTypeThing]

As for the Harts, dunno if the report of the screams of "Mom! Mom! Mom!" are true or not, but still it's the worst case scenario.

There are reports of the amount of benedryl (or benedryl equivalent chemical) in their systems, it's very likely they weren't lucid enough to know what was going on. Even the driver and the other mother were highly sedated. I really hope this is the true version so that the kids didn't have to suffer any more than they already suffered living with these horrible parents.

 

[large_farva]

A little girl died yesterday, age 9, after 15 brain and spine surgeries, starting at age 2. Not sure the exact details of her case, but I have to wonder if it was the multiple, invasive surgeries that led to her death. Very tragic.

The chiari community is rampant with non-professionals almost pressuring people to get brain surgery on themselves or their children, at all cost. I've even seen comments pushing someone to go ahead with decompression surgery on a child under 5 who was asymptomatic.

I don't think all of these mothers are MbP at all, I think they are easily influenced by this wackadoo community that think they know more than literally ALL doctors.


Check out who's popped in to give Krissy advice


Crazy how he's in a wheelchair with a feeding tube here and miraculously began walking and eating without assistance while away from his parents. Was it just recovery or was it a positive separation test?

I'm imagining this conversation - hey, I lost my kid to CPS for medical abuse and managed to get him back, lmk if you need any tips!

Spoiler: Drake Pardo cross-post from Munchie thread

Has anyone been following the Drake Pardo case? I think his parents (Ashley and Daniel Pardo) are carbon copies of the Pelletier’s.

The following is the best article I have found.
Pardo Family CPS Hearing Scheduled for Tomorrow, Here’s What We Know

I’ve included a few highlights.

The removal affidavit reportedly claims, “Ashley has multiple physicians and switches doctors when she does not agree with their assessment. Ashley is exaggerating and lying about [her son’s] symptoms and conditions.”

Accordingly, it also argues that she “is demanding an unnecessary surgical procedure to place a G-tube,” and has been searching for a third gastrointestinal doctor after two others advised against the surgery.

As the affidavit claims, the parents had multiple GI doctors at Children’s, even firing one. However, Daniel said that the first doctor was not fired because they disagreed with his assessment of the feeding tube, but for other reasons.

Ashley said at the hearing that one of the reasons for the firing was because the doctor refused to visit Drake when he was in the hospital.

Dr. Dakil told the court that the doctor thought he was fired because he did not recommend the G-tube.

Some who testified at the hearing claimed that Drake’s health had improved in several ways: he had been successfully potty-trained, no longer needed his wheelchair, and was able to eat a regular diet.

There is a gag order of the Drake Prado case, but individuals on the parents side are ignoring it. They are actually revealing things that don’t look very good for Ashley.

For example, they talk about her first husband and previous incidents with CPS, but blame it all on him.

They bring up the CPS statements about Ashley saying her son has epilepsy, but they say that is a lie.

The whole situation is just so interesting considering the parents kind of caused this to happen. They filed a complaint against the hospital/doctor, which triggered a review. That caused the hospital to review the child’s medical files. Then they assigned the medical child abuse expert to review it too.

 

[cuddle striker]

A little girl died yesterday, age 9, after 15 brain and spine surgeries, starting at age 2. Not sure the exact details of her case, but I have to wonder if it was the multiple, invasive surgeries that led to her death. Very tragic.

The chiari community is rampant with non-professionals almost pressuring people to get brain surgery on themselves or their children, at all cost. I've even seen comments pushing someone to go ahead with decompression surgery on a child under 5 who was asymptomatic.

I don't think all of these mothers are MbP at all, I think they are easily influenced by this wackadoo community that think they know more than literally ALL doctors.


Check out who's popped in to give Krissy advice
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Crazy how he's in a wheelchair with a feeding tube here and miraculously began walking and eating without assistance while away from his parents. Was it just recovery or was it a positive separation test?

I'm imagining this conversation - hey, I lost my kid to CPS for medical abuse and managed to get him back, lmk if you need any tips!

positive separation test.

 

[large_farva]

positive separation test.

And because CPS fucked it all up, the kid went back to mom. I hope he's safe from unneccessary medical procedures.

Gee, who else desperately wants a g-tube for a kid and doctors keep telling her no?
I can't even count how many comments there are where Krissy is saying they're getting her a g-tube, the hope they can, what it is, showing pics, etc. Obviously, it's something Krissy wanted more than Avee needed.

 

[Sperghetti]

The chiari community is rampant with non-professionals almost pressuring people to get brain surgery on themselves or their children, at all cost. I've even seen comments pushing someone to go ahead with decompression surgery on a child under 5 who was asymptomatic.

I don't think all of these mothers are MbP at all, I think they are easily influenced by this wackadoo community that think they know more than literally ALL doctors.

Like most noxious communities out there, I’d be willing to bet that it’s made up of a handful of legitimately crazy and malignant people like Krissy, surrounded by a whole lot of naive souls who believe everything they say. The crazy ones end up dictating the narrative (“The doctors refuse to take this seriously! They don’t know what they’re doing!”) because the naive ones just accept everything without question. After all, what reason do they have to distrust somebody who's in the same situation they are? Doctors telling them they don't need drastic intervention just becomes proof that the other people in the community were absolutely right, and they end up parroting back the Crazy Narrative to anyone who will listen.

Meanwhile, anybody with any sense probably walks in, realizes the community is a dumpster fire, and walks back out.

 

[scallion]

Holy fuck this depravity is just bizarre, and that's aside from the fact that it is not even a unique case.

 

[behavioral swamp thang]

Sorry if this is powerleveling- I knew a doctor who had an MBP case. He said the child was hospitalized and not improving from any treatment. They installed security cameras in the child's room and ran them during the mother's visiting hours. (Idk if this is allowed now, this was the 90's) Anyway, they caught the mother putting fucking FECES in whatever tubing he was hooked up to.

 

[NoFeline]

That was one hell of an OP to read.

After all that I'm just sat here aghast at the obvious use of lip plumpers. Within the same photoset there would be pics, supposedly taken at the same time, of the girls with the normal pale pink lips as seen in their pre-munchie days of modeling and cheerleading, and then in other pics they would have horrible inflamed and obviously mishapen lips looking glossy with not a single wrinkle.

When I saw the pictures of the family, esp the girls, I thought "Are these the beings Epstein wanted to create??" Ugh

There is something eerily creepy about the beauty queen pageant type pictures. They looks like dolls, verging on Jon Benet territory. And that creepy youtube with all the pictures of the little girls comes off as a pedo brochure. YUCK

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Unless she's instructing these poor kids to chew violently on their lips she's dolloping on plumpers that burn like fire onto kids that haven't even hit puberty, while they're supposedly in excruciating pain. That's creepy enough, but she put red lipstick and hoochie blue makeup on the one while they were still in cheerleading. Even when they're supposed to be dying their hair is perfectly coiffed in fresh curls, and when they're supposed to look "like a mess" she styles their hair in a way that is creepily reminiscent of the classic "sexy tousled" look. It gives me a really nasty feeling.

I don't know what it is with narcs and munchies with simultaneously sexualizing and infantilizing their progeny but I've witnessed it in real life and it disgusts me on every level.

Anyways, on a less horrifying topic. It's absolutely laughable that she tries to say these girls have Loeys-Dietz:

These kids come out looking like Quasimodo, are you kidding me? I would call her a re'tard but she's an evil genius relying on an audience too stupid and gullible to look into things for themselves. I need a drink.

 

[Android raptor]

Is she still active and posting? Or did she get scared off.

Either way this shit is horrifying. I wonder how much time she spends staging the photos/styling the kids hair/picking outfits/etc. I wonder if the girls are even interested in the singing and modeling and whatnot, or if they're mainly in it to please mommy?

 

[NoFeline]

Hope that husband of hers steps up and puts a stop to this before one of the kids die.

He won't.

Look at his facebook, at his bleached hair, his uncanny tongue-to-palate soyboy smile, in the media he likes-- It's entirely comprised of children's movies, Marvel, and basic softboi music. This man is a sad husk of a cuck. That Switch on the Christmas list wasn't for the kids.

This dude is letting a psycho bitch destroy his children ( ) for a drop of coochie and of everyone here he is probably the most reprehensible for it.

 

[©©©]

That was one hell of an OP to read.

After all that I'm just sat here aghast at the obvious use of lip plumpers. Within the same photoset there would be pics, supposedly taken at the same time, of the girls with the normal pale pink lips as seen in their pre-munchie days of modeling and cheerleading, and then in other pics they would have horrible inflamed and obviously mishapen lips looking glossy with not a single wrinkle.

^ This
Unless she's instructing these poor kids to chew violently on their lips she's dolloping on plumpers that burn like fire onto kids that haven't even hit puberty, while they're supposedly in excruciating pain. That's creepy enough, but she put red lipstick and hoochie blue makeup on the one while they were still in cheerleading. Even when they're supposed to be dying their hair is perfectly coiffed in fresh curls, and when they're supposed to look "like a mess" she styles their hair in a way that is creepily reminiscent of the classic "sexy tousled" look. It gives me a really nasty feeling.

I don't know what it is with narcs and munchies with simultaneously sexualizing and infantilizing their progeny but I've witnessed it in real life and it disgusts me on every level.

Anyways, on a less horrifying topic. It's absolutely laughable that she tries to say these girls have Loeys-Dietz:
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These kids come out looking like Quasimodo, are you kidding me? I would call her a re'tard but she's an evil genius relying on an audience too stupid and gullible to look into things for themselves. I need a drink.

You noticed the lip plumpers, too, huh? Even if she's not using it on them, they're being photoshopped that way.

Powerlevel, but I used to work in makeup. I heard a few coworkers complain about how plumpers made their lips burn or otherwise irritate their mouths and lips somehow. If it didn't bother them, it'd irritate the lips and mouths of their partners when they kissed them.

I really hope she isn't using it on the girls. Imagine the kind of cunt that would sit their child down after putting them through brain surgery and insist on putting some of that good ol Nyx "Angelina" on 'em.

There's a level of staged here that's so incredibly disturbing. Even Susan Schofield had some degree of honesty in her bullshit, venomous harpy that she was. I get flashbacks to those creepy Jonbenet tabloids back in the 90s.

Forgive the rambling. Just...goddamn...

 

[IBrokeBob]

Is she still active and posting? Or did she get scared off.

Either way this shit is horrifying. I wonder how much time she spends staging the photos/styling the kids hair/picking outfits/etc. I wonder if the girls are even interested in the singing and modeling and whatnot, or if they're mainly in it to please mommy?

Her fb group " kleins journey of hope" appears to have been archived and hidden from search on oct 7. That means no new content, comments or members will be forthcoming. She likely has a new secret group of only the most ardent and gullible asspatters.

 

[Android raptor]

Her fb group " kleins journey of hope" appears to have been archived and hidden from search on oct 7. That means no new content, comments or members will be forthcoming. She likely has a new secret group of only the most ardent and gullible asspatters.

So we're stuck waiting for someone to leak something or her deciding to post shit publically again? That sucks.

I really hope this thread doesn't die and get forgotten about. People need to be aware of this woman and what she's doing to her kids

 

[large_farva]

She was already aware of the thread probably from the moment she was mentioned on the farms. She's tipped for now and she'll have eyes on this thread forever, especially if she is seeking and posting about medical intervention for the kids.

 

[Testicular Manslaugther]

Now that I think about it, saying her stomach doesn't tolerate narcotics is even dumber than it was on first glance. Many people's stomachs don't do well on narcotics. Opiates can have harsh side effects that are minor compared to the pain they're treating. It's like many people puke after anesthesia (or even local anesthesia) and saying "oh, she can't be anesthetized, she had to be awake/un-numbed because her stomach can't tolerate it." No, you prepare with a puke tray for when they wake up, or with antacids or stool softeners or whatever the problem is that's caused by this very necessary part of a procedure.

I mean my knowledge of opioids mostly consists of having read Trainspotting in phonetic scottish because I hate myself, but I feel like it's a completely normal side effect of opiods to have your digestive system go to.. well, shit.

 

[Berserker Armor]

during a browse on a EDS support forum i have used for years i found a topic about comorbid neuro issues.
then i fell down a rabbit hole of how munchies how really do find this stuff. (andsupportforums:. i would love a support forum munchie thread)
yes, there are some some comorbid neuro issues with EDS.
especially linked to hEDS.
you will NEVER believe what it is..... *drum roll*
good olde Chiari malformation.

and guess what? it is listed on the EDS society website.
and a chiari related medical center.
heres a decent article that isnt using hella big words about the connection.
now, here's the kicker. this shit is just now being researched properly or even diagnosed in the last 4 years despite being sited as something connected as far back as 2008.
while we have seen krissy go back and forth on the fact if her kids have EDS or not. it would make sense for her to attempt to fall back on it as chiari and hEDS' link is still not been properly figured out despite the fact it has been a occurring issue but it seems to only occur in adults who were born before they likely even thought to check for it.
even many patients do not find out they have both of this comorbidity until adulthood due to the fact, chiari can be easily dismissed as headaches along with the fact hEDS is pushed off as double jointed. even though type 1 is well.... even then diagnosis is hard to fight for or to figure out. here's a few patient testimonials i thought were interesting. (1) (2) and one where the comorbidity was only found after a concussion in a hEDS study on concussions. patient one btw

something i learned about chiari during this? other then the fact it seems to be a disorder that has very jumbled up as fuck info on it?
asymptomatic chiari is more common then anything else and rarely even intervened.
i also read through the thread to find stuff from the mouth of the doctor frankengirl herself.
she refers to it A LOT as chiari malformations or chiari malformation. yet, never adds a typing. before the chiari decision she mentions that Ave is at RISK of syringomyelias aka cyst on her spinal cord which is associated with chiari and talks about it more then the apparent 13.5 mm hernia on her brain when radiologists said it was 11m. which could lol idk Kill Her.

also a thing about the spinal cord cysts and hernias? they can be caused by injuries to the head or spine. despite the rare connection with chiari

and oh may i add
"often detected coincidentally among patients who have undergone diagnostic imaging for unrelated reasons."

Spoiler: other stuff that popped out to me about chiari

type 1 is 99% the time diagnosed in older children and adults. This form of Chiari malformation may be associated with syringomyelia/hydromyelia.
type 2 is found at birth most of the time due to the spinal cord and colum not closing during fetal state.
type 3 is super sad and 'are very rare and are associated with a high early mortality rate or severe neurological deficits in patients that survive. "
type 4 chiari babies do not even make it through infancy if it does happen.
"Chiari I malformations usually don't cause symptoms. So many aren't found until an imaging study of the brain or upper spine is done for a different reason. | Chiari I malformations that are asymptomatic should be left alone (this involves the majority of Chiari malformations). There is no indication for "prophylactic" surgery on these. If the malformation is defined as symptomatic, or is causing a syrinx, treatment is usually recommended." Chiari II malformations are treated if the patient is symptomatic, and physicians have determined that there are no complications from hydrocephalus. In some patients, consideration of a tethered cord is also explored. In many infants who become symptomatic from a Chiari II malformation, the symptom onset and progression are severe and rapid, and this requires an urgent or emergency approach.
" This condition develops while the brain and skull are still growing, and patients with type 1 typically don’t have symptoms until late childhood or adulthood. Patients with other types of Chiari malformation are often diagnosed in utero, during birth or during early infancy."

tdlr; krissy spends way too much time on google and may have been able to find this connection with ease. all she had to do was learn about EDS, primarily hEDS and go to common EDS related resources (the EDS society + EDS UK) to find out about co-morbidity and read patient stories. just as i was able to. not scary or munchie like at all or leading her to find very Serious issues to co-morbid w/ the "EDS" her kids have.
So if you are reading this Kristina. You aren't slick. Neither are your chronic illness warrior parent friends.

also POTS is also can be a comorbidity in EDS.