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I'm torn. I suspect Vic staying silent is a combination of a strategy from Ty and Vic not wanting to do any more harm. Nick himself has repeatedly said that Vic is putting forth a good look by staying silent, making it impossible to nail him as a limited purpose public figure.

And Nick was... really toasty on Twitch. I am gonna watch the youtube stream in a bit, was he drinking heavily?

But what Vic doesn't seem to recognize is that by refusing to stand up to these people, he's letting them do the harm he's afraid of doing himself. And yes, his lawsuit is part of it, but he could at least step forward and do some PR for himself, too.

No, he's not responsible for what they're doing.

But he is responsible for not stopping them.

He is not going to be friends with them again after this. He was never really friends with them to begin with. They were sociopaths who were using him and felt they couldn't get anything else out of him, so they tossed him aside before he could get promoted ahead of them. They intended him to go away forever, preferably to die.

I get that he's a Christian and wants to do what Jesus would do. But he seems to be forgetting that throwing over a table and whipping a bitch until they run away is a valid option.

God helps those who help themselves.
 
I paraphrased, but that's what I heard. Gonna try to get some timestamps for you now.

(not a complete and full transcript)

3:00:30: I can't tell people how I really feel, because our speech is censored. ... What do you guys want out of Vic's situation?
3:01:40: Mine would be Vic coming out and saying fucking anything about these motherfucking cunts. Why won't he say anything?
3:02:45: Come out, tell your fucking supporters you care about them.
3:03:10: Vic hasn't made them jealous. I have. Hero Hei has. TUG has. Yellow Flash has. Vic hasn't done it. Want some fucking truth? I don't know about Hero Hei, Flash, and TUG. I don't know. I know what I want. I want Vic to fucking support us. Don't you guys want that?
3:04:05: You don't want that, kurono? Why not? Why don't you want Vic to come out and support us? We've been fighting his fucking fight for a year.
3:05:25: I don't want him to say thank you. I want him to say Monica Rial is a fat pile of shit. I want him to say Jamie Marchi couldn't leave the house if there wasn't a ham sandwich involved. That's what I want. ... Why won't he say it? Why won't he fucking say it? These people are fucking liars.
3:06:43: So tired of people whose reputation has been ruined being fucking scared of their reputation. Hi, everyone in the industry thinks I'm a rapist. Uh, I'm really worried about my reputation. Fuck off! What about everybody who stood behind you's reputation, they all risked it for you. Vic is not too pure for this world. He's not, he's really fucking not. He's a normal guy. He's a good guy, but he's a normal guy, pissed about this stuff like everybody else is. He just won't come out and fucking say it. He's not naive, goddamn it. His reputation isn't ruined, he's still getting cons, he's getting cons because people are fucking standing up for him. ... Look, I love him but he's not. He's not smart. If he was smart, he would fucking fight back.
3:10:06: Do you guys really think... Vic is the one who saved his career? What have you heard from him? Legitimately, what have you heard from him? What conventions did Vic book? Or did conventions book Vic?
3:11:40: I like him. I've met him several times. We've hung out, we're pals. Can't say we're pals. If we say we're pals, it's somehow a bad thing. How many friends of yours say that? How many friends of yours say I'd love to be friends with you, but you know, the image. Fuck off.
3:13:47: We can't have fun because some fatsos don't like it? Fuck them. I hope Jamie Marchi has(?) an insurance claim. Fuck her. I'm tired of this shit.
3:15:15: Guys, I have pictures of me and Vic playing golf and I can't fucking post them. Know what that's like? I'm going to let you guys in on a little secret, because you are my Twitch thot friends and I love you. I was trying to get Vic on the show today. All I want on Earth is for Vic to come on my show, and tell these fucking harlots to die in a fucking friendly fire. That's all I want. ... He won't do it. What does it take? You know who he listens to over me? He listens to fucking cunts who hate him.
3:17:18: I'm sorry guys. The sweet tea has gotten to me, the caffeine. What do you want to know? I'll tell all. I'll tell anything. I'm tired of secrets, tired of hiding, all this shit. What color is my underwear?... Red today... Ty advised him to keep keeping his head down? Does Ty seem like the guy who would advise Vic to stay quiet?
3:19:43: ...He's a pussy...
3:23: (Nick singing)
3:24: Vic thinks he will become friends with these fucking assholes again.
3:26:34: (story about Drexel)
3:27:47: Drexel was living in my room.
3:29:33: (Drexel and finger removal?)
3:32: (stuff about men who are "pretty")
3:36: (5/8 pregnancies successful)
3:39: I don't think Vic watches any anime, frankly.
3:43: (Nick fights an invader in Dark Souls)
3:47:45: I know everything about this case. I know everything about the situation. What do you wanna know?
3:48:10: Do you honestly think Vic will win? Yes, I do. It's up to the appeals court and it's up to Ty... I'm tired of this subterfuge...
3:48:47: Who's Igor and Renfield? It's Sabat and Schemmel.
3:49:07: Do you know what was promised to get her to turn away from Vic? Who are you talking about? ...
3:49:37: Iago is Sabat? Of course Iago is Sabat. Who are the VAs you spoke to who support Vic? I don't want to drag them in. Man, I really don't. That I won't say, I'm not that drunk.
3:50:12: I'm not giving out any secret info. It's not secret. ... Igor is Schemmel. Who is Renfield? Renfield was Geekdom, but I don't think Renfield is Geekdom anymore. Geekdom's just a fucking dumbass. Imagine being Geekdom with all those subscribers and getting played by Perfection with none.
3:50:58: Geekdom was opposed to Vic coming to Kamehacon. Geekdom was the MC of Kamehacon who was acting like a fucking bitch. There. He's an absolute fucking beta. And it's a damn shame, cause he seems like a good guy, I've talked to Geekdom in DMs and stuff. He seems like he's okay, but he was acting like a complete pussy because of Perfection. Like 3k subscribers, two thousand of them being Perfection's alts, and he was scared of this guy. Geekdom has like a million subscribes. Imagine being that much of a pussy.
3:52:02: Yeah, cucking to Perfection, legitimately. Ooh Perfection's calling me this- literally who cares. People call me shit all the time.
3:52:42: You thought Perfection was on our side? Perfection's a KickVic piece of shit. Or he was, I don't know if he's- wait, Perfection. No, Perfection's garbage. Ty's a good guy, he's a good lawyer, he's way fucking better than he's been presented. He had a shit day in court, may have made some mistakes. Every fucking lawyer makes a shit ton of mistakes, it's fine.
3:53:17: I don't know if I'm going to Matsuri. I was going to Matsuri, now I don't know, I've got to talk to them. Matsuri's pissing me off right now too. Everybody's pissing me off. Everything is so up in the air. Put the fucking dates down. Put the agreements down. I shouldn't say Matsuri's pissing me off, I haven't talked to them in a couple of months. I don't know, all this shit's pissing me off.

God damn it. I don't have a twitch and I went to bed. I could have asked about Rooster Teeth.

Fuck.

I understand Nick's frustration. It sounds like all of this could have been over within a short period of time if they had gone all out.

But if that ruined a dozen people's lives, had piles of collateral damage (forgive me but Chris Sabat does have kids, right? I'm not absolving him, he should have been better but if a marriage is broken because of this).

And it may have made Vic as radioactive as the defendants.

The defendants will destroy themselves. We are seeing that right now.

I'm torn. I suspect Vic staying silent is a combination of a strategy from Ty and Vic not wanting to do any more harm. Nick himself has repeatedly said that Vic is putting forth a good look by staying silent, making it impossible to nail him as a limited purpose public figure.

And Nick was... really toasty on Twitch. I am gonna watch the youtube stream in a bit, was he drinking heavily?

But what Vic doesn't seem to recognize is that by refusing to stand up to these people, he's letting them do the harm he's afraid of doing himself. And yes, his lawsuit is part of it, but he could at least step forward and do some PR for himself, too.

No, he's not responsible for what they're doing.

But he is responsible for not stopping them.

He is not going to be friends with them again after this. He was never really friends with them to begin with. They were sociopaths who were using him and felt they couldn't get anything else out of him, so they tossed him aside before he could get promoted ahead of them. They intended him to go away forever, preferably to die.

I get that he's a Christian and wants to do what Jesus would do. But he seems to be forgetting that throwing over a table and whipping a bitch until they run away is a valid option.

God helps those who help themselves.

"God helps those who help themselves" comes from a Greek myth. Not from the Bible.

There is wisdom in crushing your enemy totally. That is a common theme in the Bible. Well, old testament.

"Turn the other cheek." You have to know how far your enemy will go to punish you. Then again, God himself does seem to have an interest in Vic's plight.
 
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I paraphrased, but that's what I heard. Gonna try to get some timestamps for you now.

[approximate transcript]

man I feel for Nick. sure, Vic didn't ask him (or anyone else outside of the PR firm and that one lawyer he'd retained before Ty&co) for help in all this, but at the same time I can understand it stinging him to feel like he's now between a Vic and a bunch of hard to look at faces. it's almost like he's more invested in this than Vic is, if Vic really is that concerned about being seen to be on friendly terms with him. for his sake, I do hope Vic would at least close ranks with Nick publicly, Nick deserves that much at least, imo.

you could argue that Vic's recovery is in part due to him keeping his distance from Nick's aggressive form of defense in the court of public opinion, allowing Vic to be seen as taking the high road, but on the other hand, it's not like kickvic believes Vic and Nick aren't bestest friends foreverest already. hell even Lemoine asked about it at the sanctions & fees hearing and the deposition.

also, with all the dirt Nick claims to have on the bad eggs in this play we've been enjoying the past year, maybe to Nick it's also starting to feel like they have had an 'I win' button for some time now but Vic refuses to press it, causing all this to drag on for so long.

that's just my 2 ct's though.
 
I paraphrased, but that's what I heard. Gonna try to get some timestamps for you now.

3:00:30: I can't tell people how I really feel, because our speech is censored. ... What do you guys want out of Vic's situation?
3:01:40: Mine would be Vic coming out and saying fucking anything about these motherfucking cunts. Why won't he say anything?
3:02:45: Come out, tell your fucking supporters you care about them.
3:03:10: Vic hasn't made them jealous. I have. Hero Hei has. TUG has. Yellow Flash has. Vic hasn't done it. Want some fucking truth? I don't know about Hero Hei, Flash, and TUG. I don't know. I know what I want. I want Vic to fucking support us. Don't you guys want that?
3:04:05: You don't want that, kurono? Why not? Why don't you want Vic to come out and support us? We've been fighting his fucking fight for a year.
3:05:25: I don't want him to say thank you. I want him to say Monica Rial is a fat pile of shit. I want him to say Jamie Marchi couldn't leave the house if there wasn't a ham sandwich involved. That's what I want. ... Why won't he say it? Why won't he fucking say it? These people are fucking liars.
3:06:43: So tired of people whose reputation has been ruined being fucking scared of their reputation. Hi, everyone in the industry thinks I'm a rapist. Uh, I'm really worried about my reputation. Fuck off! What about everybody who stood behind you's reputation, they all risked it for you. Vic is not too pure for this world. He's not, he's really fucking not. He's a normal guy. He's a good guy, but he's a normal guy, pissed about this stuff like everybody else is. He just won't come out and fucking say it. He's not naive, goddamn it. His reputation isn't ruined, he's still getting cons, he's getting cons because people are fucking standing up for him. ... Look, I love him but he's not. He's not smart. If he was smart, he would fucking fight back.
3:10:06: Do you guys really think... Vic is the one who saved his career? What have you heard from him? Legitimately, what have you heard from him? What conventions did Vic book? Or did conventions book Vic?
3:11:40: I like him. I've met him several times. We've hung out, we're pals. Can't say we're pals. If we say we're pals, it's somehow a bad thing. How many friends of yours say that? How many friends of yours say I'd love to be friends with you, but you know, the image. Fuck off.
3:13:47: We can't have fun because some fatsos don't like it? Fuck them. I hope Jamie Marchi has(?) an insurance claim. Fuck her. I'm tired of this shit.
3:15:15: Guys, I have pictures of me and Vic playing golf and I can't fucking post them. Know what that's like? I'm going to let you guys in on a little secret, because you are my Twitch thot friends and I love you. I was trying to get Vic on the show today. All I want on Earth is for Vic to come on my show, and tell these fucking harlots to die in a fucking friendly fire. That's all I want. ... He won't do it. What does it take? You know who he listens to over me? He listens to fucking cunts who hate him.
3:17:18: I'm sorry guys. The sweet tea has gotten to me, the caffeine. What do you want to know? I'll tell all. I'll tell anything. I'm tired of secrets, tired of hiding, all this shit. What color is my underwear?... Red today... Ty advised him to keep keeping his head down? Does Ty seem like the guy who would advise Vic to stay quiet?
3:19:43: ...He's a pussy...
3:23: (Nick singing)
3:24: Vic thinks he will become friends with these fucking assholes again.
3:26:34: (story about Drexel)
3:27:47: Drexel was living in my room.
3:29:33: (Drexel and finger removal?)
3:32: (stuff about men who are "pretty")
3:36: (5/8 pregnancies successful)
3:39: I don't think Vic watches any anime, frankly.
3:43: (Nick fights an invader in Dark Souls)
3:47:45: I know everything about this case. I know everything about the situation. What do you wanna know?
3:48:10: Do you honestly think Vic will win? Yes, I do. It's up to the appeals court and it's up to Ty... I'm tired of this subterfuge...
3:48:47: Who's Igor and Renfield? It's Sabat and Schemmel.
3:49:07: Do you know what was promised to get her to turn away from Vic? Who are you talking about? ...
3:49:37: Iago is Sabat? Of course Iago is Sabat. Who are the VAs you spoke to who support Vic? I don't want to drag them in. Man, I really don't. That I won't say, I'm not that drunk.
3:50:12: I'm not giving out any secret info. It's not secret. ... Igor is Schemmel. Who is Renfield? Renfield was Geekdom, but I don't think Renfield is Geekdom anymore. Geekdom's just a fucking dumbass. Imagine being Geekdom with all those subscribers and getting played by Perfection with none.
3:50:58: Geekdom was opposed to Vic coming to Kamehacon. Geekdom was the MC of Kamehacon who was acting like a fucking bitch. There. He's an absolute fucking beta. And it's a damn shame, cause he seems like a good guy, I've talked to Geekdom in DMs and stuff. He seems like he's okay, but he was acting like a complete pussy because of Perfection. Like 3k subscribers, two thousand of them being Perfection's alts, and he was scared of this guy. Geekdom has like a million subscribes. Imagine being that much of a pussy.
3:52:02: Yeah, cucking to Perfection, legitimately. Ooh Perfection's calling me this- literally who cares. People call me shit all the time.
3:52:42: You thought Perfection was on our side? Perfection's a KickVic piece of shit. Or he was, I don't know if he's- wait, Perfection. No, Perfection's garbage. Ty's a good guy, he's a good lawyer, he's way fucking better than he's been presented. He had a shit day in court, may have made some mistakes. Every fucking lawyer makes a shit ton of mistakes, it's fine.
3:53:17: I don't know if I'm going to Matsuri. I was going to Matsuri, now I don't know, I've got to talk to them. Matsuri's pissing me off right now too. Everybody's pissing me off. Everything is so up in the air. Put the fucking dates down. Put the agreements down. I shouldn't say Matsuri's pissing me off, I haven't talked to them in a couple of months. I don't know, all this shit's pissing me off.
3:54:13: What do you think about AniMatt? AniMatt- he seems like such a pathetic pussy. I wish he'd talk to me. I really wish he would. Has the potential to be Shane 2.0, but I don't think it will be. I just want to talk to AniMatt, talk to him. So tired of these fucking people. Come talk to me. Well, Nick Rekieta must be stealing the GoFundMe! Guys, if I had $270,000 you would never see me again. Fuck off.
3:55:48: Move to Chile and live the rest of my life with big titty, fucking, uh waitresses all day. Would I give Lemoine a fair shake? Of course! I give everyone a fair fucking shake! So tired of this fucking reputation. I give everybody way more fair of a shake than they fucking deserve. Tonka, that motherfucker lied to everybody and I gave him a fair shake. Perfection accused me of federal fucking felonies and I gave that piece of shit a fair shake. Of course I'd give Lemoine a fair shake. ... I'd give everybody a fair shake. I'd have a drink with any of these people, I'd sit and talk to them. So tired of this, why are people such fucking assholes?
3:58:33: Imagine these fucking babies. Oh, someone was mean to me I'll never talk to them. Fuck off. ... Lemoine, the one lung fucking wonder. ... So many people think I'm lying. I don't fucking know why. I've never lied about anything. I don't have a reason to lie, guys.
4:00:13: On one hand I'm a lawyer but on the other hand according to everybody on Earth I'm the shittiest lawyer to ever live, right? So if you expect lawyers to act a certain way, I obviously act the opposite.
4:06:46: Of course I want to go to more cons.
Damn. That's a lot to take in.

I do believe Nick's right. Vic should just go all out and say what he really thinks about these people.

I don't think it's fair to blame Vic for not standing behind his supporters, though. He never asked anyone for help. He thanks his fans everytime he livestreams. He gave Nick a very warm hug when he met him at Anime Matsuri. He never tried to hide the fact that he knows Nick. He posed with him on Hawaii.
 
What would you have asked?

I'm not completely sure how to phrase it. Were they active participants or tricked? Were they bribed with potential VA work? How much can be laid at the feet of Sabat and Rial and how much was Rooster Teeth management being useless? Did RT interfere with other conventions?

How far does the rot in this industry go.


Damn. That's a lot to take in.

I do believe Nick's right. Vic should just go all out and say what he really thinks about these people.

I don't think it's fair to blame Vic for not standing behind his supporters, though. He never asked anyone for help. He thanks his fans everytime he livestreams. He gave Nick a very warm hug when he met him at Anime Matsuri. He never tried to hide the fact that he knows Nick. He posed with him on Hawaii.

The problem I have with Nick doing these things is that he is selling us a Pandora's Box. We don't know what he has. And we don't know how effective it actually would be.

The Funimation leaks being a good example. We didn't get a huge reaction from the involved parties. Granted I can see the Japanese handling the matter quietly but it didn't clean house.

So Nick could have unleashed all this stuff and it may have done nothing. Or it could have done a lot.

I can see the merits of both approaches.

Going all out ends this quickly but Vic may end up known as "the guy who killed the anime community."

Not airing the dirty laundry? Well, Monica Rial and Jamie Marchi have been loudest and dragging this out, they are the ones doing damage to the community.

It is all about trade-offs though.
 
I paraphrased, but that's what I heard. Gonna try to get some timestamps for you now.

3:00:30: I can't tell people how I really feel, because our speech is censored. ... What do you guys want out of Vic's situation?
3:01:40: Mine would be Vic coming out and saying fucking anything about these motherfucking cunts. Why won't he say anything?
3:02:45: Come out, tell your fucking supporters you care about them.
3:03:10: Vic hasn't made them jealous. I have. Hero Hei has. TUG has. Yellow Flash has. Vic hasn't done it. Want some fucking truth? I don't know about Hero Hei, Flash, and TUG. I don't know. I know what I want. I want Vic to fucking support us. Don't you guys want that?
3:04:05: You don't want that, kurono? Why not? Why don't you want Vic to come out and support us? We've been fighting his fucking fight for a year.
3:05:25: I don't want him to say thank you. I want him to say Monica Rial is a fat pile of shit. I want him to say Jamie Marchi couldn't leave the house if there wasn't a ham sandwich involved. That's what I want. ... Why won't he say it? Why won't he fucking say it? These people are fucking liars.
3:06:43: So tired of people whose reputation has been ruined being fucking scared of their reputation. Hi, everyone in the industry thinks I'm a rapist. Uh, I'm really worried about my reputation. Fuck off! What about everybody who stood behind you's reputation, they all risked it for you. Vic is not too pure for this world. He's not, he's really fucking not. He's a normal guy. He's a good guy, but he's a normal guy, pissed about this stuff like everybody else is. He just won't come out and fucking say it. He's not naive, goddamn it. His reputation isn't ruined, he's still getting cons, he's getting cons because people are fucking standing up for him. ... Look, I love him but he's not. He's not smart. If he was smart, he would fucking fight back.
3:10:06: Do you guys really think... Vic is the one who saved his career? What have you heard from him? Legitimately, what have you heard from him? What conventions did Vic book? Or did conventions book Vic?
3:11:40: I like him. I've met him several times. We've hung out, we're pals. Can't say we're pals. If we say we're pals, it's somehow a bad thing. How many friends of yours say that? How many friends of yours say I'd love to be friends with you, but you know, the image. Fuck off.
3:13:47: We can't have fun because some fatsos don't like it? Fuck them. I hope Jamie Marchi has(?) an insurance claim. Fuck her. I'm tired of this shit.
3:15:15: Guys, I have pictures of me and Vic playing golf and I can't fucking post them. Know what that's like? I'm going to let you guys in on a little secret, because you are my Twitch thot friends and I love you. I was trying to get Vic on the show today. All I want on Earth is for Vic to come on my show, and tell these fucking harlots to die in a fucking friendly fire. That's all I want. ... He won't do it. What does it take? You know who he listens to over me? He listens to fucking cunts who hate him.
3:17:18: I'm sorry guys. The sweet tea has gotten to me, the caffeine. What do you want to know? I'll tell all. I'll tell anything. I'm tired of secrets, tired of hiding, all this shit. What color is my underwear?... Red today... Ty advised him to keep keeping his head down? Does Ty seem like the guy who would advise Vic to stay quiet?
3:19:43: ...He's a pussy...
3:23: (Nick singing)
3:24: Vic thinks he will become friends with these fucking assholes again.
3:26:34: (story about Drexel)
3:27:47: Drexel was living in my room.
3:29:33: (Drexel and finger removal?)
3:32: (stuff about men who are "pretty")
3:36: (5/8 pregnancies successful)
3:39: I don't think Vic watches any anime, frankly.
3:43: (Nick fights an invader in Dark Souls)
3:47:45: I know everything about this case. I know everything about the situation. What do you wanna know?
3:48:10: Do you honestly think Vic will win? Yes, I do. It's up to the appeals court and it's up to Ty... I'm tired of this subterfuge...
3:48:47: Who's Igor and Renfield? It's Sabat and Schemmel.
3:49:07: Do you know what was promised to get her to turn away from Vic? Who are you talking about? ...
3:49:37: Iago is Sabat? Of course Iago is Sabat. Who are the VAs you spoke to who support Vic? I don't want to drag them in. Man, I really don't. That I won't say, I'm not that drunk.
3:50:12: I'm not giving out any secret info. It's not secret. ... Igor is Schemmel. Who is Renfield? Renfield was Geekdom, but I don't think Renfield is Geekdom anymore. Geekdom's just a fucking dumbass. Imagine being Geekdom with all those subscribers and getting played by Perfection with none.
3:50:58: Geekdom was opposed to Vic coming to Kamehacon. Geekdom was the MC of Kamehacon who was acting like a fucking bitch. There. He's an absolute fucking beta. And it's a damn shame, cause he seems like a good guy, I've talked to Geekdom in DMs and stuff. He seems like he's okay, but he was acting like a complete pussy because of Perfection. Like 3k subscribers, two thousand of them being Perfection's alts, and he was scared of this guy. Geekdom has like a million subscribes. Imagine being that much of a pussy.
3:52:02: Yeah, cucking to Perfection, legitimately. Ooh Perfection's calling me this- literally who cares. People call me shit all the time.
3:52:42: You thought Perfection was on our side? Perfection's a KickVic piece of shit. Or he was, I don't know if he's- wait, Perfection. No, Perfection's garbage. Ty's a good guy, he's a good lawyer, he's way fucking better than he's been presented. He had a shit day in court, may have made some mistakes. Every fucking lawyer makes a shit ton of mistakes, it's fine.
3:53:17: I don't know if I'm going to Matsuri. I was going to Matsuri, now I don't know, I've got to talk to them. Matsuri's pissing me off right now too. Everybody's pissing me off. Everything is so up in the air. Put the fucking dates down. Put the agreements down. I shouldn't say Matsuri's pissing me off, I haven't talked to them in a couple of months. I don't know, all this shit's pissing me off.
3:54:13: What do you think about AniMatt? AniMatt- he seems like such a pathetic pussy. I wish he'd talk to me. I really wish he would. Has the potential to be Shane 2.0, but I don't think it will be. I just want to talk to AniMatt, talk to him. So tired of these fucking people. Come talk to me. Well, Nick Rekieta must be stealing the GoFundMe! Guys, if I had $270,000 you would never see me again. Fuck off.
3:55:48: Move to Chile and live the rest of my life with big titty, fucking, uh waitresses all day. Would I give Lemoine a fair shake? Of course! I give everyone a fair fucking shake! So tired of this fucking reputation. I give everybody way more fair of a shake than they fucking deserve. Tonka, that motherfucker lied to everybody and I gave him a fair shake. Perfection accused me of federal fucking felonies and I gave that piece of shit a fair shake. Of course I'd give Lemoine a fair shake. ... I'd give everybody a fair shake. I'd have a drink with any of these people, I'd sit and talk to them. So tired of this, why are people such fucking assholes?
3:58:33: Imagine these fucking babies. Oh, someone was mean to me I'll never talk to them. Fuck off. ... Lemoine, the one lung fucking wonder. ... So many people think I'm lying. I don't fucking know why. I've never lied about anything. I don't have a reason to lie, guys.
4:00:13: On one hand I'm a lawyer but on the other hand according to everybody on Earth I'm the shittiest lawyer to ever live, right? So if you expect lawyers to act a certain way, I obviously act the opposite.
4:06:46: Of course I want to go to more cons.
Thanks a lot for getting these timestamps. You’re a lifesaver.
 
Wow. Sounds like Nick let loose a bunch of frustration. It must be pretty tough to be sitting on top of a bunch of information for a long time without having the chance to share it all at the moment. I can understand that he's frustrated with how Vic has handled the situation so far. But Vic is in a tough spot that if he tries to stand up for himself, his words can and will be used against him. Even now, they take Vic's streams and scream about him talking to his fans is instigating hate in the community. It is a difficult and frustrating place to be in since the defense is going to twist it in any way they can in court. The same could be said about Vic and Nick hanging out together. It seems wrong for Vic to want to hide it, but what can he do right now? The defendants are going to try to paint Nick as an agent... and the more proof the have of them together, the more they are going to try to drill that narrative. These people are hard to escape from and they will make everyone suffer no matter what. Newbie VAs that stand up for Vic are starting to get their chances of having a legitimate career destroyed. Would Vic standing up for himself be able to prevent this? I don't know. He's kind of already said his piece and denied the allegations of assault, pedophilia, and such. But no matter what he does... It will never be enough to satiate his detractors. The only way to appease them is to admit they are 100% correct... But they are not. They are liars. The only thing that can be done for now is to move forward with the case. Though, Vic is extremely naive to think that he can be friends with the Funi crew.
 
then claimed to have been hacked.

Wasn't that a gayop done by a friend of senpaiishome? I remember that guy coming on the farms who made a fake Stephanie account that was deleted after he came out of making the account.

Renfield is/was Geekdom.

So Perfection is right? That ragequitting harem having guy is right?


I di understand nick's frustration with vic not going as hard he could have, but lawtwitter would try to make the argument that hes a public figure or hes showing "malice" like if people took I'm away my livelihood hell yeah id be holding malice. But that's probably the devout Christian in fix that doesn't let him go all out, but the unlock stream where he was calling kickvic morons i can sense hes probably going to fight back harder.
 
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Wasn't that a gayop done by a friend of senpaiishome? I remember that guy coming on the farms who made a fake Stephanie account that was deleted after he came out of making the account.

@Sirkjn made a post saying that the DM @Rachel_Moonbutt shared could have been faked and to prove it, they made their own fake DM. Given that Stephanie Nadolny dropped the subject, it appears that the "I was hacked" DM was real.

Hey farms from earlier with the second stephanie Facebook profile with the full name I want to let you know that is me. I was proving to senpaishome that the very first stephanie leaked dm to not fully believe it at first till she has spoken out as anybody can make a Facebook account and say something. To prove my point to senpai, I wrote the exact same message that was said with senpai name at the bottom. Nothing to go going against anything just proving a point to maybe not believe the stephanie leak first time

With the kickvic moonbutt showing stephanie saying she has been hacked. That profile only has ‘stephanie’ not her full name on there which would had been from her real profile. Here are the files to show that I did make it.. didn’t do it to make any bad accusations or falsehood just to show how easy it is to make a Facebook profile and make dm seem real that’s all. Wanted you to know the full information
My bad part was not removing the stephanie name I made

I made this KF account let this be known
Woah woah the first stephanie leaked dm is not me. I’m stating here clearly that I copied the exact message that was leaked and adding the senpai at the end to prove a point that it is easy to make a Facebook account and say something like this and for him to wait till stephanie came forward herself
I’ll just leave here, I only came forward when reading this when I didn’t have to. I’m not trying to score points or to try to get on anyone wrong side. I was only stating to senpai that it very easy to make a Facebook account with Stephanie full name and picture and say anything so to wait till she makes her own statement. That’s all I did.. my bad is not removing the profile afterward I showed him. That’s my bad. When saw you all mentioned it I wanted to clear the air on it... I’m not the one who saying stuff about Chris if anyone is going to make that claim as I stated I copied the exact message that was being said and added an extra. I’ll leave you all be, you all do a great job on here. I respect many of what so many of you do. Keep doing what your doing I just wanted to say my piece when showing the stephanie second profile with the full name of her

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I believe you are correct.

Though we did later get a DM of Sabat saying he was helping Naldolny and she no longer wanted anything to do with this drama.
Which are Sabat’s words, not Stephanie’s. We still don’t know the full side from Stephanie because it looks like VoiceofVagina is interfering.
 
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So Perfection is right? That ragequitting harem having guy is right?

I don't know all the lore but here's what I transcribed:

3:48:47: Who's Igor and Renfield? It's Sabat and Schemmel.
3:49:07: Do you know what was promised to get her to turn away from Vic? Who are you talking about? ...
3:49:37: Iago is Sabat? Of course Iago is Sabat. Who are the VAs you spoke to who support Vic? I don't want to drag them in. Man, I really don't. That I won't say, I'm not that drunk.
3:50:12: I'm not giving out any secret info. It's not secret. ... Igor is Schemmel. Who is Renfield? Renfield was Geekdom, but I don't think Renfield is Geekdom anymore. Geekdom's just a fucking dumbass. Imagine being Geekdom with all those subscribers and getting played by Perfection with none.
3:50:58: Geekdom was opposed to Vic coming to Kamehacon. Geekdom was the MC of Kamehacon who was acting like a fucking bitch. There. He's an absolute fucking beta. And it's a damn shame, cause he seems like a good guy, I've talked to Geekdom in DMs and stuff. He seems like he's okay, but he was acting like a complete pussy because of Perfection. Like 3k subscribers, two thousand of them being Perfection's alts, and he was scared of this guy. Geekdom has like a million subscribes. Imagine being that much of a pussy.
3:52:02: Yeah, cucking to Perfection, legitimately. Ooh Perfection's calling me this- literally who cares. People call me shit all the time.
3:52:42: You thought Perfection was on our side? Perfection's a KickVic piece of shit. Or he was, I don't know if he's- wait, Perfection. No, Perfection's garbage. Ty's a good guy, he's a good lawyer, he's way fucking better than he's been presented. He had a shit day in court, may have made some mistakes. Every fucking lawyer makes a shit ton of mistakes, it's fine.

So it looks like he got the names mixed up out of drunkenness but clarified it and expanded about Geekdom and Perfection.
 
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Vic just has a kind nature. You can tell he doesn't like being negative or saying negative things about anybody. He was hesitant to give names in his deposition. He never said anything negative about the defendants. During his livestreams, he struggles to communicate his negative feelings. Even when he does it, he is extremely composed and then moves on quickly. Doesn't seem fair of Nick to expect Vic to go against his own kind hearted nature.

When it comes to Vic wanting to be friends with the defendants again, I agree it's dumb, but it fits his character. Look at the defendants, whom he called friends for years, yet they made fun of him behind his back and spread rumors about him. Look at whom he's calling a friend now: Chris Ayres (liked KV tweets and participated in KV discussion), Caitlin Glass (liked the Dallas morning news article, likes a bunch of Jamie's tweets while not even liking one of Vic tweets). I think his view of friendship is just extremely optimistic and he considers everyone a friend (which he has stated in court). He believes he could be friends with Jamie and Monica again in the same way that he believes that Caitlin and Chris are his friends, if that makes sense.
 
@Sirkjn made a post saying that the DM @Rachel_Moonbutt shared could have been faked and to prove it, they made their own fake DM. Given that Stephanie Nadolny dropped the subject, it appears that the "I was hacked" DM was real.





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I still don’t believe the hacking story for a second. It’s way too convenient.
 
Wow. Sounds like Nick let loose a bunch of frustration. It must be pretty tough to be sitting on top of a bunch of information for a long time without having the chance to share it all at the moment. I can understand that he's frustrated with how Vic has handled the situation so far. But Vic is in a tough spot that if he tries to stand up for himself, his words can and will be used against him. Even now, they take Vic's streams and scream about him talking to his fans is instigating hate in the community. It is a difficult and frustrating place to be in since the defense is going to twist it in any way they can in court. The same could be said about Vic and Nick hanging out together. It seems wrong for Vic to want to hide it, but what can he do right now? The defendants are going to try to paint Nick as an agent... and the more proof the have of them together, the more they are going to try to drill that narrative. These people are hard to escape from and they will make everyone suffer no matter what. Newbie VAs that stand up for Vic are starting to get their chances of having a legitimate career destroyed. Would Vic standing up for himself be able to prevent this? I don't know. He's kind of already said his piece and denied the allegations of assault, pedophilia, and such. But no matter what he does... It will never be enough to satiate his detractors. The only way to appease them is to admit they are 100% correct... But they are not. They are liars. The only thing that can be done for now is to move forward with the case. Though, Vic is extremely naive to think that he can be friends with the Funi crew.
He is damned if he does, damned if he dont, but for my two cents id rather be damned standing with my friends than damned trying to negotiate with the enemy executioner.
 
But what Vic doesn't seem to recognize is that by refusing to stand up to these people, he's letting them do the harm he's afraid of doing himself. And yes, his lawsuit is part of it, but he could at least step forward and do some PR for himself, too.

Maybe it's just not his style. I get that Nick is pissed but Vic probably has his reasons for doing things his way.
 
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